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View Full Version : ESX no longer the fastest new age WRX - some guy claims 10.2
alfriedesq 09-10-2002, 09:50 PM Thats right - 10.2
If this is true - I guess Easy street will have to peel those "World's fastest new gen WRX" stickers off thier car now???
This guy is claiming he has 518 wheel HP and he went 10.2 in the 1/4 somehwhere in FL
Anyone know anything about this guy - is he for real???
I am very sceptical of this guy's claims - sounds wishy washy - -
what do you think ??
http://forums.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=2548801#post2548801
DannyGT 09-10-2002, 11:35 PM Ya, I agree sounds wierd how NO ONE at all would hear about it....But then again, why do you put so much effort caring about others....Dude, you have a very nice car, and that damn thing pulls like a freight train I'm sure.....let it go man. Besides I have a question, after being at pruven for so long why wouldnt you just look at there 10 and 9 sec. car and just use a similar setup instead of slowly increasing your power and wasting money with changing mods every time you figure out somthing else is better......Why not just go ALL OUT. Anyway I hope you reach your goal. Hopefully I'll be at the shootout to see every 1....
jesse370 09-10-2002, 11:46 PM I dunno that is really fast but if that is a stroked motor it may be possible but I would think that rigoli would be able to build a more powerfull engine and I think the easystreet rex has more displacement and nitrous. As for you big al...I can't wait for the 14th to roll around. That'll be put up or shutup time. I would hope for all the talking you do you throw down some damn good times. I hope all you guys with the big bad imprezas throw down some good numbers.
alfriedesq 09-10-2002, 11:49 PM Originally posted by DannyGT
Besides I have a question, after being at pruven for so long why wouldnt you just look at there 10 and 9 sec. car and just use a similar setup instead of slowly increasing your power and wasting money with changing mods every time you figure out somthing else is better......
Its very demoralizing when you realize that for under $7,500.00 you can have a 500 wheel HP DSM that will spool up about 1,000 rpm sooner than a comparable subaru
I think that in order to reach that point in a subaru you need to spend a lot more $$$
a 9 sec subaru is not practical as a daily driver - which my car is
Red Rocket 09-11-2002, 12:43 AM Originally posted by alfriedesq
I think that in order to reach that point in a subaru you need to spend a lot more $$$
What make you say that?
Kevin
V6TurboTA 09-11-2002, 01:49 AM Originally posted by alfriedesq
Thats right - 10.2
If this is true - I guess Easy street will have to peel those "World's fastest new gen WRX" stickers off thier car now???
This guy is claiming he has 518 wheel HP and he went 10.2 in the 1/4 somehwhere in FL
Anyone know anything about this guy - is he for real???
I am very sceptical of this guy's claims - sounds wishy washy - -
what do you think ??
I think you are rediculous.
Thanx for asking.
some guy.... somewhere.... :lol: :lol:
~v6
Romanikque 09-11-2002, 02:38 AM Until I see a slip and or a video, I call BS
-MAX
G-REX 09-11-2002, 02:41 AM Originally posted by DannyGT
Ya, I agree sounds wierd how NO ONE at all would hear about it....
It's been kind of a local favorite but we've (Tampa Bay people) known about it since the project first started almost a year ago.
I haven't seen it run but I can at least say it exists. :)
HighWayDrifter 09-11-2002, 03:19 AM i hope it does exist and i hope it pulls 2's in the quarter mile so that maybe al can leave us alone and start hot rodding the latest fads..
http://www.corbinmotors.com/images/oldglory.jpg
djerickd 09-11-2002, 01:14 PM Here's info on the car:
http://mastrowrx.com/monster.htm
Specs:
MRT custom built 2.2 stroker motor with forged rods, balanced and tweaked
Motec engine management running parallel to stock ECU
Garrett 450 24 psi turbo
MRT cold air intake integrated into front mount IC
Heavy duty fuel supply system with surge tank
DMS performance 40 Gold suspension kit
Uprated brass button clutch
Lightened flywheel
Lightened pulley kit
Subaru/Sti 4 pot brakes and DBA cross drilled rotors
Adj. rear sway bar and alloy links
MRT adjustable 22B rear wing
MRT STi replica big hood scoop
MRT huge front mount intercooler
Morette Euro headlamps color coded
Rays Gram light white 17" wheels
Toyo T1-S tires 22545ZR17
STI roof vent and scoop
4 point Schroth DOT seat belts
MRT stainless steel extractors
STI door sills
STI badging
STI rad cap
Clear fender markers and side blinkers
Forged pistons and rods
stroker crank, balanced
Originally posted by Red Rocket
What make you say that?
Kevin
History.
OK, what the hell am I doing in this forum? My brain hurts. Im leaving now.
thats the old stuff.. the car has more parts on it now..i saw it when it was built..
Al.. the car exists..its IS very damn fast.
just live with it.
Zate.
Giamilton 09-11-2002, 07:24 PM Originally posted by Xeno
thats the old stuff.. the car has more parts on it now..i saw it when it was built..
Al.. the car exists..its IS very damn fast.
just live with it.
Zate.
Good job Al, put up a new post calling attention to your lameness, I think you need some time off, take a break, relax and come back chipper, refreshed and less of an a-hole
I claim that I do something better then you Al!
Then this is were you post
" I need proof! gimme timeslips, I need a photo of your tool it can't be bigger then mine no way, that monster is is on NOS blah blah blah,"
Then you tell me to come from Portland to PA so we can compare side by side in the washroom.
Of course I can't afford it so you then say you win by default.
poor sportsmanship but good TV tho....
Romanikque 09-11-2002, 07:39 PM Its perfectly reasonable to request a timeslip. Without on it is also reasonable to call BS. Forexample I have a Gremlin that runs 5's. ;) No slip showing.... hopefully no one believes that, but its just like this claim of 10.2 till a slip is produced.
-MAX
z&cobb 09-11-2002, 10:18 PM Originally posted by HighWayDrifter
i hope it does exist and i hope it pulls 2's in the quarter mile so that maybe al can leave us alone and start hot rodding the latest fads..
http://www.corbinmotors.com/images/oldglory.jpg
Wow! One wheel drive and a turbocharged 90 degree V2. Talk about weight reduction and driveline efficiency! Must feel like a rocket. Roll cage?
Giamilton 09-12-2002, 03:16 PM Originally posted by Romanikque
Its perfectly reasonable to request a timeslip. Without on it is also reasonable to call BS. Forexample I have a Gremlin that runs 5's. ;) No slip showing.... hopefully no one believes that, but its just like this claim of 10.2 till a slip is produced.
-MAX
I agree, it's just that AL really doesn't just ask for a timeslip nicely, he's vindictive, pouty and darn right ornry. I feel his people skills could use some new siding and a coat of paint.
here's an example
Nice Guy: 10.2 wow thats incredible, would you happen to have a timeslip or video that could confirm that, I for one would be interested in seeing that.
Al Guy: BS thats a load of crap, you can't have done a 10.2, you are just some punk who knows nothing. Until I see 3 dyno results and 2 timeslips independantly verified by a reputable source I refuse to believe you could have a car that fast, it's against the laws of nature.
djerickd 09-12-2002, 03:18 PM :lol:
Boosted WRX 09-12-2002, 04:06 PM Well, I can also attest to the existance of this car. It is very nice and has a boatlad of parts on it. I have not seen or heard anyone that was at the track to witness this run, but I am sure it is capable of pulling off some great dyno numbers and even better ET's. Take Care -KEVIN-
V6TurboTA 09-12-2002, 04:36 PM You guys dont understand.
Even if they did run 10.2 they didnt ok it with Al's book of world records so even if it was true it wouldnt count.
If Al didn't see it, It simply didnt happen.
Make sure you check in with Al and have him ok your current setup or you wont be able to claim your record.
Thanx,
~v6
Romanikque 09-13-2002, 02:46 AM Originally posted by Giamilton
I agree, it's just that AL really doesn't just ask for a timeslip nicely, he's vindictive, pouty and darn right ornry. I feel his people skills could use some new siding and a coat of paint.
here's an example
Nice Guy: 10.2 wow thats incredible, would you happen to have a timeslip or video that could confirm that, I for one would be interested in seeing that.
Al Guy: BS thats a load of crap, you can't have done a 10.2, you are just some punk who knows nothing. Until I see 3 dyno results and 2 timeslips independantly verified by a reputable source I refuse to believe you could have a car that fast, it's against the laws of nature.
Gotta tip my hat to you on this one. Thats Al in a sentance or two. However, please dont think for a second that I was defending him with my earlier statement, he is a big boy and can take care of himself.
-MAX
Chris02WRX 09-13-2002, 10:04 AM Originally posted by Giamilton
Al Guy: BS thats a load of crap, you can't have done a 10.2, you are just some punk who knows nothing. Until I see 3 dyno results and 2 timeslips independantly verified by a reputable source I refuse to believe you could have a car that fast, it's against the laws of nature.
Come on, that's not how Al would reply. Every other word would have to be misspelled and you have to throw in the word breaks and the phrase armchair quarterback a couple of times. ;)
rdrkt 09-13-2002, 10:06 AM Originally posted by alfriedesq
Its very demoralizing when you realize that for under $7,500.00 you can have a 500 wheel HP DSM that will spool up about 1,000 rpm sooner than a comparable subaru
I think that in order to reach that point in a subaru you need to spend a lot more $$$
All when are you going to realize that the DSMs and the 4g63 ownz ;)
If you think its cool that a 2.0L DSM can spool a turbo faster than the WRX you should see what a 2.4L 4G64 can do. I just got one delivered yesterday. It’s a direct replacement same mounts and everything. They claim 50 more hp and another 100lbft of torque and I believe it. It should spool my 60-1 T04e stage 3 exhaust wheel .82 ar exhaust housing t3/t4 at around 3500 rpms as opposed to the 4500 that it does now. How does that sound for a daily driver?
stimpy 09-13-2002, 12:40 PM Blah blah blah. You do realize that we have a direct drop in replacement 2.5L motor right? Everybody talks about how great the engine mounts worked on their engine swaps. Well us Subaru guys can take just about any EJ block/head/transmission combination and drop them in. How about them apples?
The sky is the limit... What's your point?
-Jon
www.nothingserious.net
rdrkt 09-13-2002, 12:59 PM Originally posted by stimpy
Blah blah blah. You do realize that we have a direct drop in replacement 2.5L motor right? Everybody talks about how great the engine mounts worked on their engine swaps. Well us Subaru guys can take just about any EJ block/head/transmission combination and drop them in.
The sky is the limit... What's your point?
Yes we can both drop stroker motors in but I don’t need a mile and a half of IC piping, my spool times will be better than yours, I think all things being equal I should be able to make more power, and I cant believe I get a chance to say this the DSM tranny IS stronger and we have rebuild options that don’t involve dog boxes.
Originally posted by stimpy
How about them apples?
Yes how about them. Dsmtimes.org can show you what is possible and what has been done already. I’m still waiting for something in your post to show me up.
I’m just ribbing Al a bit all in good fun of course. Don’t get you panties in a knot because you get knocked around by DSMs that don’t need to go to half the trouble to get decent engine managment and have half the dollars into parts as you do.
NotoriousWRX 09-13-2002, 01:10 PM Originally posted by rdrkt
we have rebuild options that don’t involve dog boxes.
Coming soon! ;)
Romanikque 09-13-2002, 03:44 PM Originally posted by rdrkt
Yes we can both drop stroker motors in but I don’t need a mile and a half of IC piping, my spool times will be better than yours, I think all things being equal I should be able to make more power, and I cant believe I get a chance to say this the DSM tranny IS stronger and we have rebuild options that don’t involve dog boxes.
If we are resorting to this.... Our tranny replacements are cheeper. Na Na Nanana ;)
-MAX
stimpy 09-13-2002, 03:49 PM originally posted by rdrkt
Don’t get you panties in a knot because you get knocked around by DSMs that don’t need to go to half the trouble to get decent engine managment and have half the dollars into parts as you do.
My penis is bigger than your penis.:rolleyes:
-Jon
www.nothingserious.net
rdrkt 09-13-2002, 04:08 PM [Ren mode on] Stimpy you Idiot! [Red mode /off]
So you make a bunch of statements you can back up when I call you on it you resort to dismissing me. Who here is acting childish?
stimpy 09-13-2002, 06:16 PM Can't back up or don't want to back up?
DSM's (and most other turbo cars) have a closely mated turbo. So? We can play with equal length headers just like everybody else. Tune it right and good spool is possible.
The EJ25's put down lots of wholesome power down low. With a whopping (and I say this with a little sarcasm) 3 years of existance, I've seen some that put down some very healthy numbers. 200ft-lbs at the wheels @ 3k rpm (www.projectcobb.com) is more than most sane people want or can handle.
Costs cheaper? We can talk again once we have had the same development time and the same user base as DSM's. But I seriously don't care about that. If I did, then I would have bought something else. You really think I bought this car to go down the 1/4 cheaper than you? There are plenty of other cheaper solutions out there.
Mile and half of IC piping? Have you even looked at some of the well thought out EJ builds? They have no more piping that your 'superior' 4g63. Relocate the alternator and A/C, invert the intake manifold and voila: less IC piping. Of course, that is after the one ( 1) foot of IC piping has been maxed out with a properly designed top mount. I've seen some EJ's making some serious power without going to a front mount.
Tranny strength huh? I'd like to see you back that up with statistical data. People have bitched about your weak trannies and people have bitched about our weak trannies. Our trannies seem to be more picky about drivers, but never the less there are plenty of cars out there making healthy power without problems. Since you know so much, I would guess you would also know that there are other alternatives to dog box builds for our 'inferior' cars.
Have a nice day,
-Jon
www.nothingserious.net
Conduit 09-19-2002, 06:01 PM Al, the car is for real. There is no way it was 4-wheel dynoed in FL. unless he brought the dyno with him, or they flew it in. Either way, I look forward to seeing it at NOPI. I've dealt with Mastro 3 times, and all three were poor experiences (while visiting my family, who lives all of 1/2mi away). I am hoping those were just exceptions, so here we should see them at their best :)
IMPREZive 02 WRX 09-21-2002, 04:07 PM Originally posted by djerickd
Here's info on the car:
http://mastrowrx.com/monster.htm
You forgot to quote the part where it says, "MRT front mount with special cosmetic tweaks for a clean look..."
I guess when they saw this "clean look," they overlooked the gigantic pink STi stickers. :lol:
madgreek 09-22-2002, 08:57 AM wow....that is one clean motor....too bad the owner was on crack when he had PINK STI lettering painted on his car.....still noway that car has 500hp it says rite on the windshield that the car will "have 450 hp"....I do believe that the car is extremly fast tho....$125000 is stupid tho you could buy a porsche GT2 for that
alfriedesq 09-22-2002, 04:10 PM Originally posted by madgreek
wow....that is one clean motor....too bad the owner was on crack when he had PINK STI lettering painted on his car.....still noway that car has 500hp it says rite on the windshield that the car will "have 450 hp"....I do believe that the car is extremly fast tho....$125000 is stupid tho you could buy a porsche GT2 for that At least a few understand which end is up !
IgotWRXed 09-22-2002, 05:12 PM i remember that car from almost a year ago when mastro posted that they were building it for a customer. and of course there was some big hoopla over that post, for reasons i cant remember. anyway, mastro should be on this board, so you should just ask them yourself, or point them to this thread.
Romanikque 09-22-2002, 09:52 PM Originally posted by alfriedesq
At least a few understand which end is up !
Amen!
VetteVert 09-23-2002, 08:25 AM If you can get a GT2 for $125k, I'll take 2. LOL They do go for $125k.....over sticker.
But yeah, I agree on starting with a different base to throw $125k at.
VV
Originally posted by madgreek
wow....that is one clean motor....too bad the owner was on crack when he had PINK STI lettering painted on his car.....still noway that car has 500hp it says rite on the windshield that the car will "have 450 hp"....I do believe that the car is extremly fast tho....$125000 is stupid tho you could buy a porsche GT2 for that
Bighurt1 09-23-2002, 01:55 PM ok, I saw this car at nopi, and I talked to the guy. He has NO clue as to what has been done. After talking to him and listening to him tell everyone about this car, it's obvious he just had $$$ and threw it at someone. He "claimed" that the MRT guys flew in and personally tuned it and that they got it to run a 9.9 without nitrous!!! BULL****. It's nice, clean, but when phil from turboXS came over and looked at it, he said that the turbo housing was smaller than his VF30. then he laughed and said his BS meter was pegged and he couldn't look at it anymore:lol:
Everyone who had a subaru at NOPI that talked to this guy knew he was full of **** and just some rich guy who threw $$$ at someone and had him a car built. But I can tell you I heard 50K to 125K put into this car from him or his friend. So he's full of it and everyone knows it.
I know if I ran 10's and pulled 510 on a dyno then I'd have my slip and my dyno chart posterized and on display for EVERYONE to see.
nmyeti 09-23-2002, 01:58 PM As a side note, I talked to this guy in Atlanta this weekend... Claims the car went 9.9 with the MRT guy driving, but that he could only get 10.2 out of it.
As a further point of observation he told me that he had the biggest Garrett turbo made on his car. It was however in the stock location, and not even in a To4E housing... small stuff; stock fuel lines feeding upgraded rails; Full interior, show car etc. You get the idea.
-Nathan
subywan-kenobi 09-23-2002, 09:18 PM Man, that really is disappointing to know that there are people out there that have that much money to spend and don't care enough to know what the hell they spent it on?!?!:confused:
Mike S.
FloridaWRX 09-23-2002, 09:19 PM Originally posted by nmyeti
You get the idea.
-Nathan
so im guessing this car will never see a real 1/4 or public dyno ?
Conduit 09-24-2002, 11:37 AM OK, where in the world was this car at NOPI? For that matter, where were all you TXS guys on Sunday? I saw the car there, sans bottle, but no people! I was sad :(
All that being said, I wouldn't doubt it if the MRT folks tuned it while visiting Mastro. But if he spent 125K and only got that car, I would be seriously pissed! Imagine what Cobb would come up with for 125K. Please.
Bighurt1 09-24-2002, 01:28 PM red lot on pavement near the track, with all the other subaru's
nmyeti 09-24-2002, 03:32 PM Originally posted by Conduit
OK, where in the world was this car at NOPI? For that matter, where were all you TXS guys on Sunday? I saw the car there, sans bottle, but no people! I was sad :(
All that being said, I wouldn't doubt it if the MRT folks tuned it while visiting Mastro. But if he spent 125K and only got that car, I would be seriously pissed! Imagine what Cobb would come up with for 125K. Please.
We were a little late getting back to the show on sunday. We were up a little late the night before.
Our car was in the Kaminar booth till about 3:30 or so when we decided we better get back on the road if we were opening the shop on monday morning. Sorry we missed you.
-Nathan
alfriedesq 09-24-2002, 04:13 PM Originally posted by nmyeti
You get the idea.
-Nathan Oh - I got the idea a LONG time ago - when i made thi spost it was kind of as a joke ! I just want to know - was this guy actually wearing his Mr. T like gold chains at the show??
alfriedesq 09-24-2002, 04:16 PM Originally posted by Bighurt1
ok, I saw this car at nopi, and I talked to the guy. He has NO clue as to what has been done. After talking to him and listening to him tell everyone about this car, it's obvious he just had $$$ and threw it at someone. He "claimed" that the MRT guys flew in and personally tuned it and that they got it to run a 9.9 without nitrous!!! BULL****. It's nice, clean, but when phil from turboXS came over and looked at it, he said that the turbo housing was smaller than his VF30. then he laughed and said his BS meter was pegged and he couldn't look at it anymore:lol:
Everyone who had a subaru at NOPI that talked to this guy knew he was full of **** and just some rich guy who threw $$$ at someone and had him a car built. But I can tell you I heard 50K to 125K put into this car from him or his friend. So he's full of it and everyone knows it.
I know if I ran 10's and pulled 510 on a dyno then I'd have my slip and my dyno chart posterized and on display for EVERYONE to see. There is NOTHING wrong with JUST being some rich idiot who throws $$$ at a car without knowing what he is buying - - after all AT least he bought a subaru
But what I take offense to is when he comes on here and made his dyno claims and his 1/4 mile claims which were obviously false and exagerated and THEN he claims to be the fastest WRX in the USA when obviously the ESX car ahd him beat by far ; my car has him beat and soon Nathan's car will have him beat also
MRT makes some great products and this car is certainly a very nice car - - but its no record holder drag car
and it certainly wont run 9 something - no way
subywan-kenobi 09-24-2002, 09:09 PM Originally posted by alfriedesq
There is NOTHING wrong with JUST being some rich idiot who throws $$$ at a car without knowing what he is buying - - after all AT least he bought a subaru
But what I take offense to is when he comes on here and made his dyno claims and his 1/4 mile claims which were obviously false and exagerated and THEN he claims to be the fastest WRX in the USA when obviously the ESX car ahd him beat by far ; my car has him beat and soon Nathan's car will have him beat also
MRT makes some great products and this car is certainly a very nice car - - but its no record holder drag car
and it certainly wont run 9 something - no way
Don't you see Al, that is exactly the problem though and you say you ARE taking offense to it. If he took the time to know what he was spending his money on..........then he wouldn't make claims like he is!!;) Since he is some rich guy with money to throw around, he has nothing to go on other than what he is TOLD he is buying, rather than understanding what he ACTUALLY bought...........get it?!?!:)
It is a direct relationship...................if you go to the store to buy an awesome home stereo setup and you know nothing about home audio (except that you have one hell of a bank account) and you walk out with Panasonic's latest creation, but were told it was audiophile quality............well, you would certainly believe what you're told you bought was top of the line............just as he did.
At least he did buy a Subaru though!!!
Mike S.
Bighurt1 09-24-2002, 09:33 PM I was in no way comparing him to you al. please don't think that. You know what your car has in it, you've worked on your car, you've dynoed it and you've proven yourself on the track. Yes you have a lot of money in your car, but it was well spent and very hard work for you to have what you have. This guy was just some rich lil guy who wanted to be down. He "claimed" it was a 2002 STI impreza. I still laugh at it, and when he drove away, it sounded SO quiet and so tame it was pathetic. Yeah nathans car(see secret project) and your's as well as phils and hell maybe even mine would run this guy into the ground. but like I said us suby guys know he's full of ****, and that's all that matters b/c he will get NO love from us
-Brett
Ps anyone with a clutch they are willing to part with? I'm in DESPARATE need of one(and I don't have $500 right now to spend on one)
Easy Street WRX 09-25-2002, 02:17 AM Originally posted by Bighurt1
Ps anyone with a clutch they are willing to part with? I'm in DESPARATE need of one(and I don't have $500 right now to spend on one)
Big,
call us, I think we can help you.
ali
esx
818.763.7892 or www.easystreetmotorsports.com
STR8OUT 09-25-2002, 02:55 AM Hey ESX,
Your my hero:D
Im sorry, I had to throw that in there.
I just cant imagine the look of ferrari and lambo owners that you see while looking in your rearview mirror.
Someday I say, Someday......
does anyone else here feel that this reflects badly on Mastro.... aren't they the authorized supplier for prodrive or something?
nqwan 09-25-2002, 10:24 AM Originally posted by HOK
does anyone else here feel that this reflects badly on Mastro.... aren't they the authorized supplier for prodrive or something?
I believe thats tirerack
G-REX 09-25-2002, 11:40 AM It's MRT, but they also sell Prodrive parts I beleive.
Z1 Performance 09-25-2002, 01:42 PM I have a simple, and maybe stupid question: how is this car putting out close to 500 hp in a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder car on a Garret 450 turbo, which uses a T3 compressor housing last I checked?
Adam
www.z1auto.com
Z1 Performance 09-25-2002, 01:43 PM I have a simple, and maybe stupid question: how is this car putting out close to 500 hp in a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder car on a Garret 450 turbo, which is a T3 based turbo 9cmompressor side) and retains the IHI P20 exhaust side?
The birdie I spoke to (saw the car at Nopi badged "Worlds Fastest WRX" claimed the car ran 9.9 with one driver, 10.2 with the owner driving it...impressive if it's real.
Adam
www.z1auto.com
I will be in Fla son..would love to go for a ride in this thing !
TurboXS 09-25-2002, 02:18 PM I think it said "America's fastest WRX"
-Nathan
stimpy 09-25-2002, 03:10 PM Not more than 2 weeks ago, the 9.9 would have put it at world's fastest :D
-Jon
www.nothingserious.net
Z1 Performance 09-25-2002, 09:48 PM thanks for correction Nathan :)
In furtherance of what this birdie told me, I started researching the turbo today..simply no way it produces the cfms to propel a WRX that is remotely close to stock weight to those times, unless it is running 4.9 gears.......
1max2nv 09-26-2002, 12:04 AM The owner is from Virginia. I seen the car in real life, but I don't know much about WRX. The owner "Shawn" was real nice though.
Ryan23 09-26-2002, 09:08 AM I tried to get him to run me a couple times up at Virginia Motorsports Park but he has always been too busy :rolleyes: For anyone who wants to see it, here was his originial intro over in the Mid-A Forum.. HERE (http://forums.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=231462)
Ryan
subywan-kenobi 09-27-2002, 09:05 PM Originally posted by MastroWRX
I don't see how this reflects poorly on us though.
Maybe I am dense
Kyle
Just a guess, but I think what they mean is that there are claims all over your website about the buildup and the car, yet no hard core #s to back it up and with all the hype being thrown around, you should have something to back up the claims other than a $125,000 receipt!!:eek:
It's kind of like Fernando Vargas talking all that smack for the last few months to De La Hoya, but then when the time came to prove it, he got the smack put down on him.
Your guy comes on here, but won't back anything up and the components of the system just don't add up either..................... sounds like all talk and therefore it reflects bad on you!! :(
I could be wrong, but that's just how I perceive it!!;)
Mike S.
Bighurt1 09-27-2002, 11:19 PM I don't think it makes mastro look bad, they claim 450hp, if that is fly wheel hp then that may be about right. They never claimed that it would do 9.9, or that he dropped $125,000, HE did. It looks bad on him and it makes him look like a damn pin head. Notice he hasn't been by this post yet to back up any of his claims either....
mastro does good things with and for subies.....they never claimed any of this, he did, he just happend to claim that they were apart of it.
but if they went to NOPI and had a sign on it saying it was Americas fastest WRX then who was he representing... just him and the car? or also people who tune it... without clarification its a lose lose situation.. saying nothing is even worse...
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