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GooseMan
09-12-2002, 01:52 PM
I've heard that bands like Linkin Park and POD (I think) among others are known as 'christian rock' bands...

what does that mean, exactly? That there's christian guys in the band? That they sing about christian stuff?

I'm confused:confused:

driggity
09-12-2002, 01:52 PM
yup

JGard
09-12-2002, 01:54 PM
yes, they sing about God.

Creed is another "christian band"

bunch'a'fools if you ask me ;)

Ferg
09-12-2002, 01:56 PM
The original "Christian Rock" band.

they used to throw bibles at the audience......

Ferg

Ferg
09-12-2002, 01:57 PM
even worse in color.......:eek:

thrashvr6
09-12-2002, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by GooseMan
I've heard that bands like Linkin Park and POD (I think) among others are known as 'christian rock' bands...

what does that mean, exactly? That there's christian guys in the band? That they sing about christian stuff?

I'm confused:confused:

I think it is an oxymoron, since rock and roll is the devils music.. All that sinful noise and shaking of the hips and such. Good christians don't need any more music than the rapturous melody that fills their heads when they read the bible.

Ferg
09-12-2002, 01:59 PM
The thing about the Chirstian music industry is that it has a huge, ready to buy captive audience, the marketing is already done. Watch TBN on the weekends and you'll see the truly christian bands.


Ferg

phillywrx
09-12-2002, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by thrashvr6


I think it is an oxymoron, since rock and roll is the devils music.. All that sinful noise and shaking of the hips and such. Good christians don't need any more music than the rapturous melody that fills their heads when they read the bible.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
i have never laughed that hard in my life.

dmitrik4
09-12-2002, 02:05 PM
IIRC,

P.O.D. = Payable On Death.


ooooooooooooooooo...:rolleyes:

tundra
09-12-2002, 02:05 PM
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Yep.

Linkin Park is a Christian band? Is that true?
Oh btw what's TBN :confused:

2Point5RS
09-12-2002, 02:07 PM
Jays of Clay is another band..

GooseMan
09-12-2002, 02:08 PM
hrm.....weird. if you listen to their lyrics, they dont say anything about anything christian, really.

:confused:


well, I've only listened to their singles on TV and the radio and such, but still...doesnt sound very 'godly' to me

ryball
09-12-2002, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by tundra
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Yep.

Linkin Park is a Christian band? Is that true?
Oh btw what's TBN :confused:

The Bible Network... I'm guessing... :lol:

-=C=-
09-12-2002, 02:12 PM
I know you guys don't want my thoughts (after all, I'm the resident "Jesus Freak")....but.

Christian rock is just christian based music in a rock genre.

POD is a somewhat christian band (not even their website speaks of them as christian, but our christian stations play them so maybe I'm out of the loop...but I like their music...hehe)

Creed and Linkin park are not christian bands. They have never been. Just because someone mentions the name Jesus or talks about the "afterlife" in some way, and doesn't cuss in their songs does not make them a christian or a christian band.

The denotion "christian rock" is simply to identify the type of music. If you just said "rock" people wouldn't think of it being christian and if you just called all christian music "christian" then you'd have kids wondering if the group is a rock group, gospel, or rap, or whatever. It's for marketing I guess.

"C" -- OT's Bible Thumper.


P.S. A small list of real christian rock bands...

JARS OF CLAY
SWITCHFOOT
TOBY MAC (mix of rap/rock)
SKILLET
AUDIO ADRENALINE
NEWSBOYS
PILLAR
PAX217
PROJECT 86

Ferg
09-12-2002, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by tundra
Linkin Park is a Christian band? Is that true?
Oh btw what's TBN :confused:

I'll ask my friend Ian, he played bass on half that album. I don't remember him ever mentioning that they were. He certainly isn't.

TBN = Trinity Broadcasting Network. The Reverend MC Hammer has a show with them....

Ferg

tundra
09-12-2002, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by ryball


The Bible Network... I'm guessing... :lol:


OOooOOoooOOoH :eek:

Gooseman: Yea me neither..... I just listened to some of their mp3s I have here at work and I hear nothing too godly..... hmmm

FaTbOyRaLLy
09-12-2002, 02:17 PM
I don't think Linkin Park is a Christian band, seeing that people preaching next to the bars on Main Street, HB say music like that is the devil. I say:monkey: your all a bunch of:alien: . Anyway thats what my experience has given me. Hey anyone seen the BOZZ Impreza STi RA from Japan, nice scoobie, HEhehehehe.

P.S. I think it's RA not sure though.

Johnny Knoxville
09-12-2002, 02:17 PM
who gives a crap? if you like the music, it doesnt matter.
ive listened to both linkin park and pod and i cant tell that theyre singing about praising the lord and all that garbage.

If my opinion...a band is a "christian rock band" when they have song titles such as "Our God is an awesome God", and crap like that.

im hungry.
J.K.

FaTbOyRaLLy
09-12-2002, 02:20 PM
I mean Scooby, hey I am a Noobie.

FaTbOyRaLLy
09-12-2002, 02:24 PM
Ok I am just gonna stop posting until I can remember the spelling for everything. And I am not trying Post Whore... although...:devil:

chkltcow
09-12-2002, 02:27 PM
My favorite is Christian rap ;) I remember flipping through channels one night, and there was a rap video on. I turned it back thinking "who is that?" I started listening to it a bit... listening to the lyrics... and then I noticed the TBN logo in the corner. Hardcore Christian Gangsta Rap.... HILARIOUS~!!!

-=C=-
09-12-2002, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by FaTbOyRaLLy
I mean Scooby, hey I am a Noobie.

Scooby
scoobie
scuby
scuubbiee


they are all acceptable...in fact in keith's world the more weird additions you add to the word the cooler you are. :D

niceguybille
09-12-2002, 02:28 PM
i have to agree with j.k. i listen to all music including some christian bands, i could really care less about one's personal beliefs. i'm more into the music than what people do in their spare time!
>>>>bille

p.s. Yspinem you forgot eastwest.....

smp291
09-12-2002, 02:29 PM
My favorite christian band is slayer they are so nice and godly.....:lol:

chkltcow
09-12-2002, 02:32 PM
http://www.grapetreerecords.com/preachas_bio.html

http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/200/grapetree_records.html

Uhhh.... :confused:

yeahh.............:confused: :devil:

JGard
09-12-2002, 02:37 PM
yspinem: Creed calls themselves a christian band. Even the singer has a HUGE cross tatooed on his arm.

Tex-WReX
09-12-2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by smp291
My favorite christian band is slayer they are so nice and godly.....:lol:


Hell yeah. SLayer speaks the truth.



Could not stand the guys and gals back in high school that listened to C-Rock. Then again, being a member of the slatanic wehrmacht makes me the anit-christ:devil:

-=C=-
09-12-2002, 02:41 PM
jgard18,

even if they said it themselves they need to produce music that lines up with being a christian artist lyrics wise. If the only people that will play your music is secular stations/tv then it would seem to me that they aren't focusing their talents correctly.

Tex-WReX
09-12-2002, 02:42 PM
Skull and devil tatts get more Pu-nanny

pehavens
09-12-2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Yspinem
P.S. A small list of real christian rock bands...JARS OF CLAY
SWITCHFOOT
TOBY MAC (mix of rap/rock)
SKILLET
AUDIO ADRENALINE
NEWSBOYS
PILLAR
PAX217
PROJECT 86

No mention of Petra??? These guys were the original Christian Rock group. Their music has been amazing for almost 30 years. Their first album released in 74' the year I was born, and they are still doing concerts.

Yspinem, you mentioned you were the resident Jesus Freak ... that doesn't happen to be your license plate does it? I actually saw a WRB WRX (can't remember if it was a wagon or sedan) in san jose with a license plate that read JZSFRK or something like that.

-Peter

Hypernoodle
09-12-2002, 03:05 PM
I agree that "Christian rock" is a pretty good oxymoron. I guess it all depends on how liberal/conservative a Christian you would happen to be.

I'm pretty conservative, even for a Christian, and I only vaguely know some of the names that have been thrown around. I've listened to some CCM, but I'm pretty picky when it comes to what I'll actually listen to. I guess if you're a liberal Christian, and you want an excuse to listen to rock music, "Christian rock" would be your answer, I guess.

The only stuff on the radio that I can even stand to listen to is Classical and some Jazz, but that's about it. I always keep a nice stack of CDs in the car so I can have something decent to listen to. Seriously, I'm pretty sure if some of you saw what CDs I had in my car you'd bust a gut laughing. Cathedral Quartet, Nelons, The Kingsmen, Poet Voices (another quartet), Acapella, and more of the like. I even have a couple Veggie Tales CDs in there, but don't go there, they're my brother-in-law's. :D

-=C=-
09-12-2002, 03:06 PM
Petra rocks too, but they are more hair band then current rock.


Nope, wasn't me in the WRX, I sold mine and drive a "sweet":rolleyes: 2000 Ford Ranger. I also live in OK.

-=C=-
09-12-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by hypernoodle

The only stuff on the radio that I can even stand to listen to is Classical and some Jazz, but that's about it. I always keep a nice stack of CDs in the car so I can have something decent to listen to. Seriously, I'm pretty sure if some of you saw what CDs I had in my car you'd bust a gut laughing. Cathedral Quartet, Nelons, The Kingsmen, Poet Voices (another quartet), Acapella, and more of the like. I even have a couple Veggie Tales CDs in there, but don't go there, they're my brother-in-law's. :D

Acapella is good.

Veggie Tales rock...fave one is The Rumor Weed...

pehavens
09-12-2002, 03:12 PM
hypernoodle,

I am pretty conservative also. What took me was the lyrics coming from the works of Petra. Definitely inspired if you ask me. Might want to check it, all though it is probably not the style of music you enjoy. I actually did not like rock until I heard petra. The words to their songs were so inspiring, thought provoking and true that I started listening to them all them time. I love their sound now as a result.

-Peter

niceguybille
09-12-2002, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Yspinem
I also live in OK.

where at??

pehavens
09-12-2002, 03:20 PM
hpernoodle,

Do you have a favorite acapella album? I only have "Rescue" and "Set Me Free". Are any of their latest albums good?

-Peter

#522
09-12-2002, 03:28 PM
The denotion "christian rock" is simply to identify the type of music. If you just said "rock" people wouldn't think of it being christian and if you just called all christian music "christian" then you'd have kids wondering if the group is a rock group, gospel, or rap, or whatever. It's for marketing I guess.

I agree. Just a way of categorizing stuff so you have an idea of what style of music it is, nothing more.

Some other examples that fall under the rock/punk genre, that are Christian:
5 iron Frenzy
Noise Ratchet
Roadside Monument
Right as Rain
Dogwood

POD is a Christian band, but I think it's hard to tell now. If you listen to some of their lyrics, there are vague references to their beliefs. I've seen several bands start out being very open and direct about their beliefs with their lyrics, then wattering it down when they get a little popular. MXPX is another example.

Creed has songs with spiritual sounding lyrics and themes, but I don't listen to them enough to comment beyond that.

Hypernoodle
09-12-2002, 03:34 PM
I've only been able to get a hold of one Acapella CD so far, "The Collection", and I really like it so far.

Oh, and "C", a couple veggie faves...

Water Buffalo Song
The Yodeling Veterinarian of the Alps
The Cheeseburger Song
and, of course, The Hairbrush Song

romoranger
09-12-2002, 03:39 PM
kreator is the best christian rock band ever...

but seriously, i am christian, and this is the first time i ahve ever heard more than 2 bands that are christian rock. the only ones i knew were creed and a local band that screams and throws stuff all death metal like, but then say 'i love you god.' maybe i don't watch enough tv or something, but does it really make a difference what they are or aren't. i don't thinkg so, considering i can barely tell (with the exception of theocal band stated above)

driggity
09-12-2002, 03:42 PM
Best Christian Rock lyrics evar...

You're not pro-choice, you're pro-death

aaah, Christian Hardcore. Gotta love it :D

aod
09-12-2002, 03:47 PM
I've noticed that all Christian Rock that I have tried listening to is so cheezy and over the top it's rediculous. It's like they are trying to one-up on the "satanic" rock groups and just do a horrible horrible job at it. There was a band called Tourniquet that tried being this thrash christian band that just did a poor job at it. They'd sing about something halfway interesting and then break into a verse in the middle of the song. So cheezy. :lol:

Keiho
09-12-2002, 03:58 PM
Friend and I discussed this a while back. We concluded that just because a group/band is made up of Christians doesn't mean they have to sing about Christian beliefs. In this case, they'd just be another group, just comprised of Christians. Or you could have of course, your group of Christians that sing about Christianity. Both are acceptable so to speak.

I think some of these Christian bands are somewhat wishy washy is because they need to make a few bucks to survive. Some "sell out", some don't. *shrug*

And I'm surprised no one has mentioned DC Talk yet. Toby Mac ya, but DC Talk hasn't. They're cool. :)

wrxlvr
09-12-2002, 03:59 PM
Five Iron Frenzy are my old roomates :cool: I was hoping someone would mention them. There are a couple christian bands/artists with talent. Lanny Cordola is one of the best guitarists in the world. So is Phil Keaggy.

For hard stuff...Tourniquet is very very good musically.

pehavens
09-12-2002, 04:07 PM
I would have to agree with you that Phil Keaggy is a tremendous guitar player. I once heard the strangest story about his missing finger. Have you heard anything about this. If you notice in all of his pictures, one of his hands is never completely visible. ( I can't remeber which hand it is ) I have seen a picture of his hand with the missing finger. I was told once that he intentionally had it removed to improve his ability with the guitar. Sounded pretty bogus to me. My guess would be the more fingers the better.

I have really enjoyed some of DC Talk's material, all though lately I haven't been too impressed. I don't know if they are still together.

Audio Adrenaline and Newsboys are two of my current favorites.

-Peter

#522
09-12-2002, 04:08 PM
Five Iron Frenzy are my old roomates

That rules. Do you still hang out with them?

I have also listened to several Christian bands that try to sound just like popular bands, and I agree, that is lame. Most of the ones listed are pretty original, but I've seen some that are like bad cover bands.

Valien
09-12-2002, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by hypernoodle

The only stuff on the radio that I can even stand to listen to is Classical and some Jazz, but that's about it. I always keep a nice stack of CDs in the car so I can have something decent to listen to. Seriously, I'm pretty sure if some of you saw what CDs I had in my car you'd bust a gut laughing. Cathedral Quartet, Nelons, The Kingsmen, Poet Voices (another quartet), Acapella, and more of the like. I even have a couple Veggie Tales CDs in there, but don't go there, they're my brother-in-law's. :D

hehehe..you sound about as conservative as i am :) Well, i'm not a big Southern Gospel fan though. sorry. :)

I am a big Acapella fan...I have about 15 albums or so. Been slack lately in getting some of their other stuff.

Other groups to check out.. The Firemen, and Vocal Union. Very talented singers and some good music.

drop me a PM if you want some more info :)

~V

aod
09-12-2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by wrxlvr
For hard stuff...Tourniquet is very very good musically.

Musically I thought so too. However, their over-the-top lyrics are just too much for me. Much of it is directly from the bible, so it's kinda silly to me in a way.

Hypernoodle
09-12-2002, 04:26 PM
You know what I came to realize? No matter how conservative you think you are, there's someone else ten times as conservative that thinks you're a liberal heathen. I remember going to Pensacola Christian College and having my Cathedrals and Steve Green tapes confiscated, since they didn't pass "music check". Go figure. My roommates and I even got in trouble a few times for singing "I'll Fly Away" and clapping on the 2nd and 4th beats instead of the 1st and 3rd. Yes, I'm serious. We got into even more hot water for singing "Amazing Grace" to the tune of "Gilligan's Island". :rolleyes:

I've come to realize that it's all a matter of convictions. If I have no problem listening to Southern Gospel music and clapping on the 2nd and 4th beats, it doesn't make me a heathen. I can't listen to most "Christian rock" because I'm too distracted by the worldly-sounding music that I can't meditate on the lyrics. If you can listen to it and meditate on the lyrics, then more power to ya.

WHTWRX
09-12-2002, 04:50 PM
If you want to hear truth, I suggest Henry Rollins. :D

Somebody did that boy wrong!

monovich
09-12-2002, 05:00 PM
I don't think Linkin Park (sp?) is a chrisitan band. I read an interview a while back about how thier tour bus is a rolling porn-mobile. Seems like conflicting goals to me.

POD are Christians that make rock, but don't call themselve's Christian Rock. But if you read thier lyrics, they are all about "positive" messages and they are usually talking to / about God in metaphor. I think they do a pretty good job showing that all Christians aren't socially mal-adjusted Bible-thumping judgemental elietists... but that's a whole different converstiaon.

Almost ALL "Christian Rock" or "Christian Rap" is pretty low quality stuff if you ask me, but people buy it because they want something to listen to that doesn't talk about hoes, pimps, crack, or hopelessness or maybe that just reflects how they see life (or God). And to that end it fits the bill.

please... try to resist judging these people just because they believe differently than you. We're all human.

werd

aod
09-12-2002, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by monovich
please... try to resist judging these people just because they believe differently than you. We're all human.

werd

One thing that I've found remarkable about this thread so far is the fact that noone has judged anyone in it.

Rancid
09-12-2002, 05:25 PM
Linkin Park is not a Christian rock band.
POD is a Christian rock band.
Creed is not a Christian rock band.

POD do say they are Christians and they make it known at their shows. Creed has some good Christian lyrics, but they are NOT Christian band. They don't even claim to be. I knew a pastor that was good friends with whatever the lead singer's name is. His lyrics are really Christian because he grew up in that kind of atmosphere and had it pounded into his head. But he says he struggles with being a Christian and not, so just lots of conflict there, which is too bad.

Blindside is going to be the next "big Christian band" I think. Thier new record just came out on Elektra's label. Its in Best Buy and other big stores, right up in the front too. This CD is amazing. Even if you don't like Christian rock, you should check it out for the musical talent alone. Its awesome.

One of the greatest Christian rocks songs ever, IMHO, is by (hed) pe, an obviously very non-Christian band. The song is called Jesus (of Nazareth) and is verrrrry good for any Christians looking for a good song. Other good Christian bands are (some already mentioned I guess...):

Pax217 (I know the bassist) (really good)
Project 86
Pillar (really good)
38th Parallel (reallly good)
40DT
Earthsuit
East West
Embodyment (really good)
Hangnail
Justifide (reallly good)
Thousand Foot Krutch (really good)

IAn

Valien
09-12-2002, 05:28 PM
Hey!! PM me :)

I graduated from PCC in 95 :) thought i was the only WRX owner here from there..hehe ;)

~V

Originally posted by hypernoodle
You know what I came to realize? No matter how conservative you think you are, there's someone else ten times as conservative that thinks you're a liberal heathen. I remember going to Pensacola Christian College and having my Cathedrals and Steve Green tapes confiscated, since they didn't pass "music check". Go figure. My roommates and I even got in trouble a few times for singing "I'll Fly Away" and clapping on the 2nd and 4th beats instead of the 1st and 3rd. Yes, I'm serious. We got into even more hot water for singing "Amazing Grace" to the tune of "Gilligan's Island". :rolleyes:

I've come to realize that it's all a matter of convictions. If I have no problem listening to Southern Gospel music and clapping on the 2nd and 4th beats, it doesn't make me a heathen. I can't listen to most "Christian rock" because I'm too distracted by the worldly-sounding music that I can't meditate on the lyrics. If you can listen to it and meditate on the lyrics, then more power to ya.

thrashvr6
09-12-2002, 06:10 PM
Huh.. What on God's green earth is going on here? An adult conversation on the ins and outs of christian music in OT? A vendor saves a dying hummingbird with vital information from OT posters?

Brain.. Melting.. Must find post on bad relationship experience..

pehavens
09-12-2002, 06:44 PM
:) :) :) OT may never be the same!!! And to think this thread almost has as many views as one with Anna Kournikova in the title. Not that I noticed that thread or anything :)

jonny_boy
09-12-2002, 07:49 PM
Yeah, Veggie Tales are the bomb. I spent two years on a christian missionary ship and it was pretty funny seeing adults walking around the decks singing little ditties from one of those videos when we had it on board...

Ugly
09-12-2002, 08:20 PM
Hrm .... mo mention of...

Living Sacrifice ( My fav)
N.I.V. ( No innocent victim)
Grits
O.C. Suppertones
Soul Junk
Slick Shoes
The Insyders
W's
Bishops fist
Stavesacre

Of course some old schools stuff like..
Rasberry Jam
DigHayZoose
Fluffy
One Bad Pig

There are tons more I'm just having a memory blank.

STiTuner
09-12-2002, 08:25 PM
NO mention of chevelle



Brad

eric m.
09-12-2002, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by aod


One thing that I've found remarkable about this thread so far is the fact that noone has judged anyone in it.

i agree. very mature of everyone. hey, we all like different kinds of music, and we all have different beliefs. i'm glad this didn't turn into a religious argument. :) maybe the whole 9/11 thing is making people less aggressive.

Ugly
09-12-2002, 08:56 PM
we all like different kinds of music, and we all have different beliefs. i'm glad this didn't turn into a religious argument Couldn't agree more.

Rancid
09-12-2002, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by STiTuner
NO mention of chevelle



Brad

Because, although they are very good, they are not Christian. They have admitted to "using" their record label to get bigger. They are on a different label now and realising a new album (it may already be out?). I'm still gonna get it though :)

IAn

Valien
09-12-2002, 11:09 PM
yeah..props those who've kept this discussion actually quite calm :)

anyhoo...my roomates in HS (I was in a MK Boarding school in the PI) listened to Petra, etc. I didn't care to much for it...was big into old style rap (Run DMC, blah blah)

mostly i like Acapella type music (Acapella, Firemen, Glad, Vocal Union, Haven, etc).

I always thought is semi-ironic that Christian rock bands were really not too much different. I went to a free concert in HS - "Mylon LeFevre and Broken Heart" or something like that..it was..interesting. hehe

raj100
09-12-2002, 11:42 PM
Alls I know is the Christian "gangsta" rap is priceless. Best line ever: "I'm going to bible whip you" Bwahahahaha.

Yea and the one christian band that sounds like marilyn manson is pretty good stuff too.

CBoldman
09-13-2002, 01:56 AM
Nobody ever called U2 a Catholic band or Bestie Boys a buddits (sp?) band. It isnt always a bands direction to be "christian", somtimes they just get labled as it and it sticks.

Eggroll
09-13-2002, 02:55 AM
This was such a great thread to stumble upon. I've been a Christian a while now, been through the Christian school system, even graduated from a Christian college (Cedarville University). I love music whether it's listening or playing, it's been a huge part of my life. My parents raised me to be open-minded. I definitely don't consider myself a conservative Christian. I enjoy just about every style and type of music. Christian rock/rap to me was something to listen to that had a God-honoring message with the music style I enjoy. Granted there are a lot of positive secular music out there like Linkin Park, U2, and Creed. I love them, too. I also like older Stabbing Westward and Static-X but for their music and not their lyrics.

Some people prefer to stay away from secular music because much of it has negative raunchy lyrics and they are affected by it more than others or don't wish to fill their heads with garbage. There are some like me who are not so influenced by it. I don't believe Christians should totally reject and "hide" from secular society. You have to know what's going on. I think it all has to do with the level of maturity a person has. Alot of kids learn their values and morals from the songs they listen to. I listen to Eminem, Big Tymers, Ludacris, and NIN but I am mature enough to know that the values they teach aren't all that great. Many young kids hear it and think that's the way it's supposed to be. That's why alot of kids today are punks and have very little respect for themselves and others. Sorry for going off on a tagent there. :)

P.O.D. is a Christian band who's been around for many years. Many of their songs have been watered down to suit their mainstream audiences now. Now they just sound like every other positive secular band. Music is just another medium. It's used to convey a message, whether it's about your 24" bling-bling rims, an ex-lover, your dog that died, or the Gospel of Christ.

Definitely check out Blindside like the other guy said. I heard them in '99 and '01 and they were good by all comparisons, secular or Christian. Oh and don't take anything I said as me forcing something on you. I'm just stating my beliefs. You take it how you want. I'm not in the business of convincing anybody. :)

REXLESS
09-13-2002, 01:11 PM
MXPX=good christian band:)

wrxlvr
09-13-2002, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by #522


That rules. Do you still hang out with them?


Yes, on occasion. Reese (the lead singer) still goes to my school and we go to lunch once in a while. They are all super friendly though. Go up and say hi to them at a show. I have some funny stories about Reese and Keith.

I used to listen to One Bad Pig... they were funny.

jlogan9
09-13-2002, 04:51 PM
POD has been around for a long time. I think they have 5 albums out. I have all but the very first one, but I have heard it.

Petra? Man, I know who they are, but there music is not very good IMHO. Oh well, just different tastes.

I am surprised at the few number of mentions DC Talk has received. While they were still together I thought they had some great music. Well, their really old stuff was pretty bad, but they got better.

Stavesacre is pretty good. I have seen them in concert like 5 times, although none in the last 4 years. I remember their lead singer being really intense.

On the other hand, Linkin park is one of my favorite bands (never heard they were Christian...)

Hypernoodle
08-17-2008, 10:13 PM
You know what I came to realize? No matter how conservative you think you are, there's someone else ten times as conservative that thinks you're a liberal heathen. I remember going to Pensacola Christian College and having my Cathedrals and Steve Green tapes confiscated, since they didn't pass "music check". Go figure. My roommates and I even got in trouble a few times for singing "I'll Fly Away" and clapping on the 2nd and 4th beats instead of the 1st and 3rd. Yes, I'm serious. We got into even more hot water for singing "Amazing Grace" to the tune of "Gilligan's Island". :rolleyes:

I've come to realize that it's all a matter of convictions. If I have no problem listening to Southern Gospel music and clapping on the 2nd and 4th beats, it doesn't make me a heathen. I can't listen to most "Christian rock" because I'm too distracted by the worldly-sounding music that I can't meditate on the lyrics. If you can listen to it and meditate on the lyrics, then more power to ya.
I was just going through some of my old posts, and holy crap, I've changed a LOT in the past 6 years. Hell, it's been over 12 years since I dropped out of Pensacola Christian. :unamused:

Haven't touched any of my old music in about 2 years. I think it's been thrown out. Now it's almost entirely country, with some rock thrown in. I doubt the "old" me would have even CONSIDERED going to the Disturbed concert yesterday.

In the past 6 years, has anyone else's perception of music changed?

turntable
08-17-2008, 10:23 PM
Creed and Linkin park are not christian bands. They have never been.

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/ORLY/3/orly-35971.jpg

MattDell
08-17-2008, 10:25 PM
In the past 6 years, has anyone else's perception of music changed?

I wouldn't dare listen to Hip Hop 6 years ago. But these days some of my favorite musicians are The Roots, Mos Def, Jay-Z, and just about anything Danger Mouse can put his hands on. My taste in music has become quite eclectic from 6 years prior.

-Matt

Cujo31
08-17-2008, 10:25 PM
A guy who I work with will blast the "up front" c-rock on his mp3 player in the lab occasionally.
Most of it, I could care less- I mostly tune it out, whatever.

Until we hit a block of a band called Apologetix (http://www.apologetix.com/)

O.M.G. I wanted to shoot myself in the face. They do 'parody' songs of regular pop songs, except they change one word to "Jesus" or "God" or some crap like that.
I had enough.
for example:

(To the tune of "ELVIRA" by the Oak Ridge Boys)
Eli-jah! Eli-jah!
Don't start no fires, Eli-jah!

Elijah looked toward Heaven-It got very bright
The fire fell sure enough takin' 50 guys' lives
I've got a feelin'- I'm about to die
Cause I know Elijah's tried that twice
So I'm sayin'

Eli-jah! Eli-jah!
Don't start no fires, Eli-jah!
He's the one
Uh who brought, uh who brought the fire down
Drive those soldiers away

Ruh-Roh
08-17-2008, 10:26 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Rock_band_cover.jpg + http://sharpiron.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/classic-jesus.jpg = http://www.purplemoon.com/Stickers/jesus-guitar.gif

Mr.Krinkle
08-17-2008, 10:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Egc3RBBHA
My buddys band was "christian" when they were together.

Jack ffr1846
08-17-2008, 10:49 PM
Doobie Brothers could have fit the description. I went to one of their concerts in the mid 70's and they spent 20 minutes preaching before playing.

There is a Christian top 100. I don't think it's all rock, but it's mostly "contemporary". I played for a bit in my wife's church band. I don't sing, so really don't care about what words they're saying....Praise the Lord.....Runnin' with the Devil.....Hell's Bells....I can play the notes on the guitar...don't really care. Thunderstruck could be a good Christian song, I think. For the fire and brimstone crowd.

jack

Tkacik
08-17-2008, 11:02 PM
I know you guys don't want my thoughts (after all, I'm the resident "Jesus Freak")....but.

Christian rock is just christian based music in a rock genre.

POD is a somewhat christian band (not even their website speaks of them as christian, but our christian stations play them so maybe I'm out of the loop...but I like their music...hehe)

Creed and Linkin park are not christian bands. They have never been. Just because someone mentions the name Jesus or talks about the "afterlife" in some way, and doesn't cuss in their songs does not make them a christian or a christian band.

The denotion "christian rock" is simply to identify the type of music. If you just said "rock" people wouldn't think of it being christian and if you just called all christian music "christian" then you'd have kids wondering if the group is a rock group, gospel, or rap, or whatever. It's for marketing I guess.

"C" -- OT's Bible Thumper.


P.S. A small list of real christian rock bands...

JARS OF CLAY
SWITCHFOOT
TOBY MAC (mix of rap/rock)
SKILLET
AUDIO ADRENALINE
NEWSBOYS
PILLAR
PAX217
PROJECT 86

You forgot most of my favorites: ;)

Third Day
Leeland
Casting Crowns
Aaron Shust

Tkacik
08-17-2008, 11:08 PM
BTW: I think this may be the most Christians that have come out in the OT ever. Nice to see some other brothers out there.

Protege Menace
08-17-2008, 11:10 PM
BTW: I think this may be the most Christians that have come out in the OT ever. Nice to see some other brothers out there.



I know. It's like shooting fish in a barrel :devil:

Tkacik
08-17-2008, 11:15 PM
I know. It's like shooting fish in a barrel :devil:

You know, I had a feeling you'd be here sooner or later... :lol:

I'd love to meet up with you some day and discuss religion/Christianity. Perhaps over a pint or two... I'll buy.

Prod
08-17-2008, 11:17 PM
I had this discussion with some friends from church, and they said that technically, a "Christian rock" band is one that doesn't use curse words and may mention a supreme being, death or afterlife in their songs. The obvious flaw here is that many bands which simply avoid the "parental advisory" label end up getting tagged as Christian rock. Sort of similar to someone who claims to be a virgin, when in reality they're an anal whore.

I tend to fall in line more with -=C=- on this issue; the real Christian rock you won't hear on an alternative rock radio station.

Tkacik
08-17-2008, 11:18 PM
I tend to fall in line more with -=C=- on this issue; the real Christian rock you won't hear on an alternative rock radio station.


You'd be right.

Midnight Desires
08-17-2008, 11:21 PM
this is a christian rock band. (surprised no one mentioned it yet)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3806/faith1tt0.jpg

GendronRules
08-17-2008, 11:26 PM
MXPX=good christian band:)

Cant believe it wasnt posted earlier

Ruh-Roh
08-17-2008, 11:27 PM
I guess il contribute a little more to this thread then my retarded chart. When i was playing bass a few years ago, the manager of a singer/songwriter I recorded and played live for referred me as a live sub to a keyboardist for a christian rock band who needed a bassist for a show. I played two songs, My Glorious by Delirious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaWQ9eqlAx0

and Saved by I dont remember.

I heard this 3 chick band that was definatly christian.

I guess a more subtle toned christian rock band is Remedy Drive, which is much more mainstream appealing and to my taste.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZJyEiag_jQ

edit: Saved was by Third Day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-RTEnjrUs

Hypernoodle
08-17-2008, 11:27 PM
this is a christian rock band. (surprised no one mentioned it yet)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3806/faith1tt0.jpg
Seeing as how the first 68 posts were made YEARS before that south park episode... I'm not.

Tkacik
08-17-2008, 11:40 PM
Seeing as how the first 68 posts were made YEARS before that south park episode... I'm not.

Yeah, I just noticed how old this thread was...

What's with all the bumped threads lately?

Ruh-Roh
08-17-2008, 11:41 PM
Yeah, I just noticed how old this thread was...

What's with all the bumped threads lately?

people just love william hung today.

Hypernoodle
08-17-2008, 11:41 PM
Yeah, I just noticed how old this thread was...

What's with all the bumped threads lately?
Post 69. I bumped it and explained how I found this old thread and what I was new curious about.

Tkacik
08-17-2008, 11:44 PM
Post 69. I bumped it and explained how I found this old thread and what I was new curious about.

Ahh, that explains it. :lol:


Yeah, my music taste has changed a good bit. I listen to a bit more country now - wouldn't touch it before. Bluegrass and Jazz are on a bit more now too.

Also, on the completely other side of the musical spectrum - Daft Punk and Zero 7 are now some of my favorite groups to run to.

Ruh-Roh
08-17-2008, 11:48 PM
Ahh, that explains it. :lol:


Yeah, my music taste has changed a good bit. I listen to a bit more country now - wouldn't touch it before. Bluegrass and Jazz are on a bit more now too.

Also, on the completely other side of the musical spectrum - Daft Punk and Zero 7 are now some of my favorite groups to run to.

+1 on the Zero 7. They resurrected themselves (no pun intended) onto this weeks playlist from about a year or so ago last time I gave them a good listen.

Hurley 2.5 WRS
08-18-2008, 12:07 AM
party like its 2002

but seriously, theres TONS of punk.alternative thats christian that might not even sound like it

iamchris
08-18-2008, 02:05 AM
12 Stones

just smurfy
08-18-2008, 02:11 AM
I was in a dentist's waiting room last week, and I started getting annoyed by the soft rock. I started listening to it, and I realized it was Christian rock.

I said to the admin girl, "that's an interesting choice of music you're playing."

She said, "yeah, isn't it great?!"

I said, "uh, well, if you're not Christian then it's a bit awkward."

She said, "I can help you with that if you'd like!"

I nearly walked out. :unamused: Like I want to pay to be preached to.

Anyone remember Petra from the late 80's?

04funwagon
08-18-2008, 02:52 AM
Has anyone on here ever been to Purple Door in PA? I went a few times a couple of years back and loved every minute of it. :) Kids now, no time:(I really need to break out some of my old Newsboys and DC Talk again.
A few more bands
Demon Hunter
Underoath
August Burns Red

T WRX02
08-18-2008, 04:02 AM
A few more bands
Demon Hunter
Underoath
August Burns Red


Good bands and heres a few more:
My Children My Bride
Mortal Treason
ALove for Enemies
As Cities Burn
xDEATHSTARx
Sleeping Giant
Bloody Sunday
Destroy the Runner
Underneath the Gun

And theres a LOT more out there

OriginalSin
08-18-2008, 07:55 AM
Pensacola Christian.


That explains a lot

r8r4life
08-18-2008, 08:08 AM
Stryper.80's christian hairband.

H-Dtech
08-18-2008, 08:27 AM
I'm a conservative christian, but no where in the bible does it talk about rock music being the music of the devil. Thats just some nutjobs ideas. anyway, great christian rock station:

http://theblast.fm/

04funwagon
08-18-2008, 08:58 AM
http://theblast.fm/[/URL]
I just listened for a few minutes and they played Kutless and Skillet! Good link.

Oh Canada
08-18-2008, 09:08 AM
Living Sacrifice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYJNIUGXsL0

MikalsWRX
08-18-2008, 10:14 AM
As I lay Dying rocks. U cant understand the words until the chorus :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju_jiLJkQdA&feature=related
And lets not forget
http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00021/04/02/21462040_l.jpg

-=C=-
08-18-2008, 12:03 PM
Heh...threads from the past always amuse me.

I like Thousand Foot Krutch right now myself.

grinner hester
08-18-2008, 12:17 PM
the late 80s surfaced many a hair metal chrisian rock band.
I found lack of talent to be the common denominator for these bands.
Can't book a gig? call yourself a christian.

MikalsWRX
08-18-2008, 08:37 PM
Some of the best christian Albums ever :lol:
http://www.maidenfrance.fr/galerie/img/number_beast.jpg
http://www.psalm9416.com/dio_satan_sign.jpg
http://www.auralexploits.com/ebay_images/lp/BlackSabbath_BornAgain_PD_1.jpg
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/Acdc_Highway_to_Hell.JPG

Hypernoodle
08-18-2008, 09:11 PM
That explains a lot
I'm still scarred.

:unamused:

06whitesti
08-18-2008, 09:40 PM
Stryper..FTMFW!:unamused:

teh Phil
08-18-2008, 09:52 PM
And I'm surprised no one has mentioned DC Talk yet. Toby Mac ya, but DC Talk hasn't. They're cool. :)

+1

Most Christian rock blows. And, even though I don't agree with what they're singing...dc Talk rocks. All three are some very talented artists. Sucks they broke up though. :(

lookitsawagon
08-18-2008, 11:56 PM
Flyleaf is another-- recently had a top-40 song, "All around me"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-sNIWi2fLs

I like their explanation of Christian bands (from Wikipedia):


All five members of the band are of the Christian faith.[13] This faith influences their music, but lead singer Lacey Mosley doesn't necessarily believe that makes Flyleaf a strictly Christian band. "We all share the same faith. And so when we deal with the whole 'Christian band thing,' we kind of think about something P.O.D. says, like, 'If you're a Christian, it affects everything in your life. So if you're a plumber, does that make you a Christian plumber?' " Mosley said. "I don't know the answer. We're a band, it's part of who we are, so it comes out in our music, and it's the fuel for what we do. And finding faith saved my life. So I'm not ashamed of it at all. And most of our album reflects that."[14]

edkwon
08-19-2008, 12:02 AM
Do christian bands really not qualify for Gold and Platinum albums?

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s99/spade0011/FaithPlusOne-1.jpg

theshadowonme
08-19-2008, 12:26 AM
When these were posted in a post earlier... it made me :unamused:

JARS OF CLAY -Gay
SWITCHFOOT -Gay
TOBY MAC (mix of rap/rock) -Gay
SKILLET -(until most recent CD) Gay
AUDIO ADRENALINE -SUPERGay
NEWSBOYS -Gay
PILLAR -Yay for christian rapcore... gay.
PAX217 -Gay
PROJECT 86 -Freaking Awesome...

How does one go from listening to audio adrenaline to listening to P86? Especially back in '02 when they were still hardcore?

I haven't seen these awesome bands listed.

Blindside
The Agony Scene (gay after they went to roadrunner)
Beloved
Chevelle (music being distruibuted by tooth and nail and being on tour with christian bands before their big break)
Dead Poetic (went gay after new medicines and after all my friends left the band.
Haste the day
He is legend
Killswitch engage
mewithoutyou
P.O.D. (back in the day, now would be questionable at best.)
Zao

OriginalSin
08-19-2008, 11:32 AM
I'm still scarred.

:unamused:
:lol: after 12yrs.

let it go man, let it go

Hamsterstyle
08-19-2008, 12:00 PM
Living Sacrifice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYJNIUGXsL0

You know they're back together and tourning againg with the original* lineup? Seriously one of the best live bands I've ever seen.


*I'm calling the Reborn/Hammering Process the original line-up, even though that's technically not the original, but definitely the best.

Stephanie
08-19-2008, 07:39 PM
Guess I'm showing my age some here, but I can't believe some of the older-school musicians like The Choir, Rez Band, Guardian, Violet Burning, and Bride haven't been mentioned. I've never seen Rez/Glen and Wendy Kaiser live but would love to.

Not rock by any means, but even Rich Mullins--I still never get sick of hearing the rawness/grit of his voice, his arrangements, the honesty of his message even after all these years since his passing.

delongedoug
09-12-2008, 11:35 AM
I didn't know these bands were "Christian bands" until after the fact, but nevertheless, I have to admit that I enjoy the following:

Underoath

MXPX

Relient K (they're pretty openly Christian, though, but the best of the 3 IMO)

WRX06TR
09-12-2008, 03:51 PM
:unamused:
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/membre_groupe/photo/Glen_Benton_-12639.jpg

Handsdown
09-12-2008, 03:57 PM
I didn't know these bands were "Christian bands" until after the fact, but nevertheless, I have to admit that I enjoy the following:

Underoath

MXPX

Relient K (they're pretty openly Christian, though, but the best of the 3 IMO)

they're all pretty openly christian. i just hate christianity. hate the christianity, love the christian.


seriously a lot of bands are like "we love god but that's not a part of our band it's a part of ourselves" but they still use it to sell cd's. it's bs.

OneInchPunch
09-12-2008, 04:05 PM
bands that sing about their love for Jesus.

Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Sideshowbob
09-12-2008, 04:10 PM
Do christian bands really not qualify for Gold and Platinum albums?

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s99/spade0011/FaithPlusOne-1.jpg

I am so glad someone put that in here.

One of my top 5 south parks

WRXGuyInUSA
09-12-2008, 04:25 PM
So my wife and I went to see "Shinedown" at the House of Blues...

Opening band was a "Christian Rock" group that we both enjoy, called "Red"

She went to get a signed shirt after they performed, and the lead singer invited her to their tour bus and wanted her to "party" with them... :rolleyes:

She said, "Can my husband come?" :lol:

The guys said no... then later they saw her at the bar getting a drink, and AGAIN asked her to come back to their bus and hang out... and bought her drink (and mine *snicker*) and she said they were getting a little creepy/pushy...

So much for "Christian Rock" huh?

Hamsterstyle
09-12-2008, 04:39 PM
So my wife and I went to see "Shinedown" at the House of Blues...

Opening band was a "Christian Rock" group that we both enjoy, called "Red"

She went to get a signed shirt after they performed, and the lead singer invited her to their tour bus and wanted her to "party" with them... :rolleyes:

She said, "Can my husband come?" :lol:

The guys said no... then later they saw her at the bar getting a drink, and AGAIN asked her to come back to their bus and hang out... and bought her drink (and mine *snicker*) and she said they were getting a little creepy/pushy...

So much for "Christian Rock" huh?

They were just going to try and convert her, it's cool. :p

I didn't know Shinedown was Christian though, I guess that explains why my buddy wanted me to go to that show. He said Red is good though, I still haven't checked them out.

WRXGuyInUSA
09-12-2008, 04:42 PM
They were just going to try and convert her, it's cool. :p

I didn't know Shinedown was Christian though, I guess that explains why my buddy wanted me to go to that show. He said Red is good though, I still haven't checked them out.
Shinedown isn't Christian... Red is just one of those "We say we're Christian but want to be mainstream" acts... like 12 Stones, I guess.

At least they're demonstrating good morals! :lol:

jbone
09-12-2008, 04:48 PM
no DC Talk?!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/josnek/DCTalk.jpg

<- is now agnostic.

NO PULSE
09-12-2008, 05:27 PM
Stavesacre

burnera
09-12-2008, 05:44 PM
Stavesacre

Kind of 'meh' live. Wow that was a long time ago.
Saw Demon Hunter live too, that was actually a pretty good show.
The first show i ever went to i was 10, and it was Carmen. :lol: What a pathetic excuse for 'bringing the message'. Even at 10 it was retarded.

I liked Project 86 for a long time, and i'll still stick up for Living Sacrifice as having talent. Mortal Treason showed a little promise, Norma Jean would be interesting if they could play live worth a damn.

burnera
09-12-2008, 05:46 PM
no DC Talk?!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/josnek/DCTalk.jpg

<- is now agnostic.

the guy on the right, kevin max (i'm pretty sure) is actually pretty cool on the music front.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4yUMKcJrD4

atasnailspace
09-12-2008, 06:03 PM
My favorite band is Clutch(I am an athiest). Some of the better rock out there, religious messages or not.

Imfasterthanyourevo
09-12-2008, 06:34 PM
Underoath
Showbread

Two of my favorite

theshadowonme
09-12-2008, 10:55 PM
Underoath
Showbread

Two of my favorite

We had an underoath thread about dumbasses like you, you should check on it.

Imfasterthanyourevo
09-13-2008, 01:20 PM
We had an underoath thread about dumbasses like you, you should check on it.

Uhhh sorry, I went to there show and the very first thing that came out of Spencers (screamer) mouth, was that they wanted to thank Jesus Christ for letting them be there, and for all the great things he had provided.

New CD song #11 Desolate Earth... The End Is Here

You said there was nothing left down here
Well I roamed around the wasteland
And I swear I found something
I found hope, I found God
I found the dreams of the believers

Oh, God! Save us all


Thats a christian band pal. Don't ever call me a dumbass when your the idiot.

Kiel
09-13-2008, 01:23 PM
Best Christian Rock lyrics evar...aaah, Christian Hardcore. Gotta love it :D
What's wrong with being pro-death? :unamused:

-=C=-
10-21-2008, 10:03 AM
For some reason I'm loving this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqr8q7RheXg

Family Force 5

and the video has ninjas...

fatgroundhog
10-21-2008, 02:08 PM
Great thread...pleasant surprise.

My long-time favorites:

Skillet (followed them from the start...they've come a long way!)
David Crowder Band (talk about good music with strong lyrics)
Third Day (raised the bar for Christian rock IMHO)
Kutlass, Pillar...good harder stuff, good lyrics

I tried hard when I was first saved to find a replacement for my Led Zeppelin and Metallica, and was left suffering through some fairly poor music, or stuck listening to good, but soft, Petra or Steven Curtis Chapman.

DC Talk's "Jesus Freak" and Jars of Clay's first album seemed to usher in a new level of quality in Christian rock. I say it is on-par with the secular stuff now musically, and given the often life-changing lyrics, far better in the end.

aschen
10-21-2008, 02:41 PM
Christian rock is only slightly better than gay porn in terms of repulsivnes

RiSti05
10-21-2008, 02:47 PM
Great thread...pleasant surprise.

My long-time favorites:

Skillet (followed them from the start...they've come a long way!)
David Crowder Band (talk about good music with strong lyrics)
Third Day (raised the bar for Christian rock IMHO)
Kutlass, Pillar...good harder stuff, good lyrics

I tried hard when I was first saved to find a replacement for my Led Zeppelin and Metallica, and was left suffering through some fairly poor music, or stuck listening to good, but soft, Petra or Steven Curtis Chapman.

DC Talk's "Jesus Freak" and Jars of Clay's first album seemed to usher in a new level of quality in Christian rock. I say it is on-par with the secular stuff now musically, and given the often life-changing lyrics, far better in the end.

no Hillsong? Desperation Band? Planet Shakers?

-=C=-
10-21-2008, 02:48 PM
Christian rock is only slightly better than gay porn in terms of repulsivnes

You are so right...why didn't we all see it before?? Thank you for showing us the truth through your eloquent speech and candor....r-tard. :rolleyes:

ZMANNH25rs
10-21-2008, 02:50 PM
Do songs about killing women and children in Jericho count as Christian rock ?

happasaiyan
10-21-2008, 03:50 PM
currently listening to:

starfield
david crowder band
chris tomlin
mercy me
tree63

gotta love classic old school audio a, jars, and dctalk, though.

OriginalSin
10-21-2008, 03:50 PM
Do songs about killing women and children in Jericho count as Christian rock ?
absolutely!

aschen
10-21-2008, 04:06 PM
You are so right...why didn't we all see it before?? Thank you for showing us the truth through your eloquent speech and candor....r-tard. :rolleyes:

The eloquence of my speech was matched by the creativity of your sarcasam

I am sure there are some tolerable christian rock numbers just like there are a very few romantic comidies that dont make me gag, but for the most part neither genre is worthwhile.

I hope its the worst case, but those commercial for christan rock compilations are the single worst thing on tv. The mainstreme bands I have hearde are more tolerable but still offensive (jars of clay, creed etc)

I dont want to hear yer bible thumping crap on the radio, any more than you would like to hear a song about how you believe in fairy tales

What you listen to in your own house is your buisness, But this is OT where free speach reigns, and I my opinion on christian rock is that it sucks hard.

-=C=-
10-21-2008, 04:09 PM
The eloquence of my speech was matched by the creativity of your sarcasam

I am sure there are some tolerable christian rock numbers just like there are a very few romantic comidies that dont make me gag, but for the most part neither genre is worthwhile.

I hope its the worst case, but those commercial for christan rock compilations are the single worst thing on tv. The mainstreme bands I have hearde are more tolerable but still offensive (jars of clay, creed etc)

I dont want to hear yer bible thumping crap on the radio, any more than you would like to hear a song about how you believe in fairy tales

What you listen to in your own house is your buisness, But this is OT where free speach reigns, and I my opinion on christian rock is that it sucks hard.

I think you need to take an English course and a Written Comm course....atheists don't like the uneducated.

aschen
10-21-2008, 04:12 PM
I think you need to take an English course and a Written Comm course....atheists don't like the uneducated.

Ah yes the tired old spelling and grammar "comebacK', a perenial OT fav

happasaiyan
10-21-2008, 04:15 PM
oh and to comment on other things mentioned earlier in the thread-

-creed is NOT a christian band. they are "spiritual." thats it.
-the members of pod are christian, their music is positive, they are not considered a christian band
-linkin park in no way or form has ever been considered a christian band, im not sure if any of their members even consider themselves christian

ZMANNH25rs
10-21-2008, 04:37 PM
absolutely!

:banana:

are there any such songs...I need some new spiritual music...

OriginalSin
10-21-2008, 04:39 PM
:banana:

are there any such songs...I need some new spiritual music...
unfortunately, not that i am aware of. :(

Colonel Lingus
10-21-2008, 04:39 PM
:unamused:
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/membre_groupe/photo/Glen_Benton_-12639.jpg

Benton is such a douche :rolleyes:, and Deicide blows.

Subi Chicky
10-21-2008, 04:54 PM
Holy ancient thread, batman. :eek:

hooziewhatsit
10-21-2008, 05:15 PM
Don't think I saw them mentioned earlier... Red is a pretty cool Christian band. One of their singles has been played on the local rock radio station a few times. You can listen to three of their songs on their website.
http://www.redmusiconline.com/

Also, Skillet: Comatose, is another great Christian Rock CD out a while ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIQ_NkmYw3g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZCcWGoObj0

In the last several years christian rock has gotten much much better.

fatgroundhog
10-23-2008, 02:23 PM
True, Comatose is a great album. The older Skillet albums were good to listen to once through, but this one, and maybe the prior one, Collide, I can listen to over and over.

Saw the mention of Hillsong, MercyMe, Tree63, Chris Tomlin...I own a lot of that stuff to. These are good, but I have trouble listening to these just to listen to them. They work well as background music (though I always dig the strong lyrics), but aren't fast/hard enough for me to listen to without distracting myself with other stuff.

Others...Jeremy Camp, Deliriou5 (most albums are weird, but Cutting Edge is a classic), Michael W. Smith's Worship albums (better classified as worship rather than rock I guess...but that line is fuzzy), Audio Adrenaline, Jennifer Knapp (great!)...

Some obscure thoughts...Bob Dylan's "Slow Train Coming" has some cool stuff, and what about King's X? I wouldn't call them a Christian band at all, but I appreciate their boldness to express their struggles and frustrations in life.

Hypernoodle
10-23-2008, 02:26 PM
:lol: after 12yrs.

let it go man, let it go
*sings the Doxology*

Hamsterstyle
10-23-2008, 02:58 PM
I tried hard when I was first saved to find a replacement for my Led Zeppelin and Metallica, and was left suffering through some fairly poor music, or stuck listening to good, but soft, Petra or Steven Curtis Chapman.


Ok, I missed this earlier, but why in the hell would you have to "replace" Zeppelin or Metallica because you decided to be "saved"? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I must've missed the chaper and verse in the bible that says, "thou shall not listen to any music that doesn't say how great I am."

ptclaus98
10-23-2008, 03:15 PM
Maylene and the Sons of Disaster

HawkI56
10-23-2008, 03:22 PM
Faith +1

nuff said. :lol::lol: Hey, they did go Mir.

OriginalSin
10-23-2008, 03:28 PM
*sings the Doxology*
ahhhhhhhhh-meeeeeennnn

ptclaus98
10-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Faith +1

nuff said. :lol::lol: Hey, they did go Myrrh.

:unamused:

Impreza25
10-23-2008, 03:33 PM
For some reason I'm loving this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqr8q7RheXg

Family Force 5

and the video has ninjas...

FF5 is AMAZING live...and all the jailbait that attends those shows is INSANE! One of the best band Ive shot/seen live.

http://www.tops3cr3t.com/ts/locations/ff5/images/dsc_6439.jpg

http://www.tops3cr3t.com/ts/locations/ff5/images/dsc_6431.jpg


I also just got finish with UNDEROATH Tuesday night....they rocked.

Also Check out Norma Jean

GooseMan
10-23-2008, 03:50 PM
JEEBUS! I started this thread like 7 years ago? :eek:

Hypernoodle
10-23-2008, 03:51 PM
ahhhhhhhhh-meeeeeennnn
*Cues Mr. Allen making a mad sprint for the podium*

ptclaus98
10-23-2008, 07:12 PM
FF5 is AMAZING live...and all the jailbait that attends those shows is INSANE! One of the best band Ive shot/seen live.

http://www.tops3cr3t.com/ts/locations/ff5/images/dsc_6439.jpg

http://www.tops3cr3t.com/ts/locations/ff5/images/dsc_6431.jpg


I also just got finish with UNDEROATH Tuesday night....they rocked.

Also Check out Normajean

Norma Jean is the ****.

Brad Pittiful
10-23-2008, 07:31 PM
JEEBUS! I started this thread like 7 years ago? :eek:

thats crazy :lol:

Colonel Lingus
10-23-2008, 07:46 PM
JEEBUS! I started this thread like 7 years ago? :eek:

and it is nice to see that it has maintained the same level of raging lame since its inception.


http://blogs.guitarworld.com/metalkult/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/behemoth_photo.jpg

fatgroundhog
10-23-2008, 10:59 PM
Ok, I missed this earlier, but why in the hell would you have to "replace" Zeppelin or Metallica because you decided to be "saved"? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I must've missed the chaper and verse in the bible that says, "thou shall not listen to any music that doesn't say how great I am."

Your argumentative tone aside, I'll clarify. I still listen to Led Zeppelin and Metallica. My walk with Christ hasn't forced me to throw out CDs or stop listening to certain bands, but I have learned that listening to music that means something, whether it is about God or not, is better than listening to music that doesn't.

theshadowonme
10-23-2008, 11:02 PM
FF5 is AMAZING live...and all the jailbait that attends those shows is INSANE! One of the best band Ive shot/seen live.






I also just got finish with UNDEROATH Tuesday night....they rocked.

Also Check out Norma Jean

Wow... aside from the great service you have done to the community lately... I am very disappointed in you.

Norma Jean is the ****.

No, they do not.

Your argumentative tone aside, I'll clarify. I still listen to Led Zeppelin and Metallica. My walk with Christ hasn't forced me to throw out CDs or stop listening to certain bands, but I have learned that listening to music that means something, whether it is about God or not, is better than listening to music that doesn't.

I Lol'd.

7/10

Impreza25
10-23-2008, 11:02 PM
Norma Jean is the ****.

I shoot them again the 11th.

I also forgot that I shot Devil Wears Prada Tuesday also.

Monday I have Five Finger Death Punch, and In This Moment

Impreza25
10-23-2008, 11:08 PM
Wow... aside from the great service you have done to the community lately... I am very disappointed in you.



Will photos of here next week make up for it?

http://a393.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/73/l_6ce15223bb4fb1c6b5f8ef4a725fe6a0.jpg

:unamused:

theshadowonme
10-23-2008, 11:11 PM
I've never before said this, but she's a little TOO tatted up for me.

Seriously tho, there are so many better "christian" bands out there than the garbage you guys are talking about.

Beloved.

It'll blow your mind.

WRX06TR
10-23-2008, 11:14 PM
and it is nice to see that it has maintained the same level of raging lame since its inception.


Okay, Deicide is hard to listen to, but we can agree on Behemoth...
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q182/06WRXGuy/Behemoth_foto4-1.jpg

theshadowonme
10-23-2008, 11:16 PM
Being highly ANTI-CHRISTIAN is almost less cool than being christian.

nate.the.great
10-23-2008, 11:35 PM
My favorite is Christian rap ;) I remember flipping through channels one night, and there was a rap video on. I turned it back thinking "who is that?" I started listening to it a bit... listening to the lyrics... and then I noticed the TBN logo in the corner. Hardcore Christian Gangsta Rap.... HILARIOUS~!!!

nothing beats vietnamese rap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVWHH7Er3KE

nothing.

oh n0es, it's a pack of early 90's hondas. run for your lives, the vietnamese are here!

DrDRum
10-24-2008, 12:16 AM
Can't believe...this thread...in OT.
What the...I'm actually pretty shocked.

Awesome! :lol:

I'd agree that the dawning of the "mainstream" contemporary music was Jars' Self Title, DC's Jesus Freak, and Caedmon Call's first disc. It was the same year I found God, actually...so I didn't get any of the DCTalk rap era, or Petra or any of that.

Probably my second favorite concert (beside Pink Floyd's Pulse tour) was Jars and Caedmon's Call. Sixpence opened, which is also a "quasi" Christian band (like U2, POD, ect). Great Show. I've since seen Jars 5 times...was my favorite Christian group for a while, but I think Caedmon's Call I dig more nowadays (OS know's what I'm talkin' about!). Both very Beatles'esque in their music writing style...'tis a shame Jars can't stick with one drummer...and Caedmon's "split up" (kinda'...)

Someone earlier mentioned Stavesacre. Wow...that takes me back half my life ago. I saw Stavesacre open for MXPX...16 years ago :lol: :lol:. THAT was a great freakin' show. MXPX...saw them when they opened for GreenDay...how funny is that?

I think Jeremy Camp is still touring (with two really good openers). Go see them if you get the opportunity, great show. The FF5, Reliant K (Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvz0J0WBZPE)) and Switchfoot (Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GghSQFvW-3g)) show was also a really great show. Surprisingly nice mosh-pit there, too :D.

BUT....BUT...how can such a thread exist...without Tourniquet???
Ooooold school Christian Prog Rock...perhaps the only Christian Prog Rock group :lol:. What's funny about them, though, is that they get mention in like every prog rock discussion. I can think of 3 prog rock threads in OT that have had Trouniquet mentioned.

Ark of Suffering (old) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDrum1NS2No
Bearing Gruesome Cargo (even older :lol: ) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRdRZ6oE3dc&feature=related
A Dog's Breakfast (shred-tastic!) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjOnnHpgncs&feature=related (not the actual video...but the song's right)
Perfect Night for a Hanging (:Headbang: ) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bse4HAMC1Js&feature=related
The Skeezix Dilemma - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACGIk903vZw&feature=related

Rock on! Great thread.

DRum