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vividracing 10-05-2002, 06:51 PM Vivid Racing is now offering a VR Oil Cooler for your New Age Subaru Impreza WRX. Unlike the $1800 STI kit this will be retailed at only $399 to start for the first 10 kits.
The kit will include the cooler, steel braided lines, hose fittings, sandwich adapter, mounting kit, and a full pictured instruction booklet.
The oil cooler is designed to extend the life expectancy of your engine due to over heating oil. The cooler will lower temperatures thus allowing the car to run a bit better at higher boost pressures. We recommend the oil cooler as a good accessory for the daily driver and racing enthusiast.
Delivery time is 2-3 weeks after Group Buy Closes. If you have any questions about the product, please contact us directly.
We accept all major credit cards and paypal. If you would like one please paypal $425 SHIPPED to us at dan@vividracing.com and reference part number VROILCLR.
Thanks
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vividracing 10-05-2002, 06:52 PM Here is the $1600 STI one for comparison. Both do the same job!
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HomeGrownXC 10-05-2002, 11:09 PM Hi Dan,
Me again, I'm interested can I get a peak at the install instructions? As usual I'm concerned about fit with regard to my FMIC piping.
Cheers - Greg
flipguy80 10-06-2002, 03:52 PM Does it have an oilstat? Can it be placed in the stock TMIC location? And about how much more oil will the unit hold?
-David
vividracing 10-07-2002, 02:05 PM Greg,
this will fit ALL FMIC including the MRT. It goes up against the AC condensor and will fit fine with the amount of room between each!
As far as how much oil it will hold, it will use the same amount, 4.5 to 5 quarts total.
Big Joe 10-08-2002, 12:11 AM Vivid, a few questions:
Could you post the dimensions of the cooler itself? I just want to make sure I have the space because I have a tranny cooler near the AC condensor.
With the sandwich adapter, do we get to use the stock oil filter or do we have to use a different size?
Any fitment or modications required with mounting the sandwich? Will it be clear of the header?
thanks in advance,
joe
vividracing 10-08-2002, 12:17 AM Uses stock oil filter
11x9x1 is the dimensions
Not modifications required, a direct fit!
cpu77 10-13-2002, 11:04 AM Will this fit a GC8?
Thanks
Patrick
GoodFinder 10-13-2002, 11:53 AM How would this compare to going with a Setrab, Mocal, or GReddy unit?
GoodFinder :)
vividracing 10-14-2002, 01:22 PM Will it fit a GC8, YES! Same filter specifications and cooler can fit without any problems.
Goodfinder - BTW give me a email when you can....
Compared to the others not sure as they do not have a Subaru specific, but all said, using stainless lines, and good cooler and all inclusive hardware for easy mounting I would say DARN good.
Driver #4 10-14-2002, 10:44 PM how long is this group buy going to last?
vividracing 10-14-2002, 10:53 PM We have not had any firm orders. So until we can get 5 people.
Vivid,
Does this kit include an oilstat or does it flow oil to the cooler 100% of the time?
vividracing 10-15-2002, 04:30 PM No it is 100% flow.
cpu77 10-15-2002, 05:02 PM Will you sell just the oil filter sandwich seperately? I already have a high end radiator with ANR fittings and stainless hose. email personally if you like.
Thanks
Patrick
Jake Steed 10-15-2002, 10:29 PM $425 shipped? HAH! What a friggin' ripoff! That's basically a B&M universal core that you're using and some stainless braided hoses with fittings. You can buy a B&M cooler, that actually BIGGER in size for about $75, and get some stainless braided hoses and Earl's fittings for another $35 or so. With that, you can make your own cooler that's better for cheaper. I don't understand why people would actually pay that much for this crap. :rolleyes:
vividracing 10-15-2002, 10:32 PM Your comments are much appreciated and others will take them into consideration.
The STI oil cooler which is similar cost about $1500. The parts that we use are not B&M and the actual cost of the complete kit is much greater then $100...MUCH greater.
Of course alot of people do like to make things so good luck and we would all love to see pictures of yours.
VR
STR8OUT 10-15-2002, 10:57 PM Originally posted by vividracing
Your comments are much appreciated and others will take them into consideration.
The STI oil cooler which is similar cost about $1500. The parts that we use are not B&M and the actual cost of the complete kit is much greater then $100...MUCH greater.
Of course alot of people do like to make things so good luck and we would all love to see pictures of yours.
VR
That is a very well stated response. If people want to make thier own kit, then good luck to them. I as well would like to see what people come up with. But all in all this is a great alternitive to the STI kit.
I think that if there were pictures of an installed system, then it would make this package much more appealing. I think that there are a lot of people interested, but are a bit afraid of what the installation may entail.
From what I have gleaned, the installation does not look much more complicated than the installation of a catch can (except for the fact that you have to drain all your oil, and may have to remove the front bumper and possibly the radiator).
I vaugely recall a photo of a similar, installed unit in the latest Hyper Rev Impreza parts catalogue.
vividracing 10-16-2002, 01:33 PM Great feedback. We will sell one inexpensive for someone to do the install!
STR8OUT 10-16-2002, 04:56 PM Does it install like this Greddy one? This one is called a TRUST STD13
STR8OUT 10-16-2002, 04:59 PM Or this STI one in the lower side grill:
vividracing 10-16-2002, 05:07 PM Great pictures! It installs like the STi one.
Subaruman03 10-16-2002, 06:49 PM If it installs like the STi one then what about us FMIC guys? Do we just get shafted again?
-David
STR8OUT 10-16-2002, 06:59 PM Originally posted by Subaruman03
If it installs like the STi one then what about us FMIC guys? Do we just get shafted again?
-David
I was wondering that too.
Heres another close up.
vividracing 10-16-2002, 07:25 PM It actually sits right up against the radiator and there is ENOUGH room to fit between the FMIC as well. We have checked with the Greddy, Blitz, and MRT FMIC and it will work no problem.
SubaSonic 10-16-2002, 07:27 PM Sign me up for the photo shoot. I'll bring the ex-wife, mistress and girlfriend to hump my car for digital eternity.:devil:
HomeGrownXC 10-16-2002, 07:43 PM Originally posted by vividracing
Great feedback. We will sell one inexpensive for someone to do the install!
If the price is right, you might have another test dummy - this one with an MRT FMIC.
vividracing 10-16-2002, 08:05 PM Will ship one out the door for a total of $295 as a customer trial.
Subaruman03 10-16-2002, 09:32 PM Well I have the APS Cobb front mount. So is this unit still going to work for me because I am very interested I just need to know where I can mount it?
-David
vividracing 10-16-2002, 09:51 PM We do not sell APS, nor cobb. But if the thickness of the intercooler are similar to the Blitz and Greddy, should be FINE.
Is this group buy still going?
What is the size of the oil cooler core itself? Who manufactures it? Mocal? Setrab? Tru-Cool?
What kind of lines and ends are used? Earl's or Aeroquip?
Where are the lines routed? Do they pass under the exhaust manifold crossover pipe?
Please answer these questions so I may decide whether to purchase this kit.
Thanks,
Aaron
nhluhr 11-05-2002, 12:14 PM Originally posted by Jake Steed
$425 shipped? HAH! What a friggin' ripoff! That's basically a B&M universal core that you're using and some stainless braided hoses with fittings. You can buy a B&M cooler, that actually BIGGER in size for about $75, and get some stainless braided hoses and Earl's fittings for another $35 or so. With that, you can make your own cooler that's better for cheaper. I don't understand why people would actually pay that much for this crap. :rolleyes:
you, sir, are a jerk. Vivid has clearly packaged this kit into a simple solution for those wanting it. The price is not that bad when you compare the ones from Jackson Racing, or <gasp> the STI one. If you've ever had any experience in retailing, you will know that for something of this price level to be profitable (worthwhile) for a vendor, he has to make a reasonable markup. Otherwise, why in blue fudge would he ever even bother with it? I tell you, all the sit-at-home, mail-order-weenies that bitch about prices these days really piss me off. If you don't like the price, FINE don't buy it!
nhluhr 11-05-2002, 12:15 PM Originally posted by vividracing
As far as how much oil it will hold, it will use the same amount, 4.5 to 5 quarts total.
This is inaccurate. The oil cooler kit will increase total oil capacity by roughly 1 quart give or take...
nhluhr 11-05-2002, 12:19 PM Originally posted by Subaruman03
If it installs like the STi one then what about us FMIC guys? Do we just get shafted again?
-David
No, in your case, you mount it somewhere else and this isn't the ideal kit for you. I've seen pictures of the STI oil cooler mounted behind the hood scoop with a big FMIC behind the bumper but I'm not sure how well that would work with this kit...
Thomas Ruble 11-05-2002, 07:30 PM Originally posted by nhluhr
This is inaccurate. The oil cooler kit will increase total oil capacity by roughly 1 quart give or take...
Hi nhluhr,
you seem to have some inside knowledge about this oil cooler. Do you have one ?, or did you help design it ? if not do you know who did ? More background / tech info would be appreciated along with a photo of one installed too.
P.S. I have no problem with the price, it sounds fair to me..
Tom..
nhluhr 11-07-2002, 09:26 AM Originally posted by Thomas Ruble
Hi nhluhr,
you seem to have some inside knowledge about this oil cooler. Do you have one ?, or did you help design it ? if not do you know who did ? More background / tech info would be appreciated along with a photo of one installed too.
P.S. I have no problem with the price, it sounds fair to me..
Tom..
I have zero involvement with the oil cooler, but it is obvious since it's a sandwich-adapter style that retains the stock oil filter that it MUST increase oil capacity. That's a good thing though, since more oil means less wear and tear on the oil, plus more stable temperatures. I would like one of these kits and in fact would order one if I could afford it, but at the moment, all i can say is "wow looks great and it costs a fraction of the STI one" which I think is a perfectly fair assessment of the kit.
Thomas Ruble 11-07-2002, 01:15 PM Originally posted by nhluhr
I have zero involvement with the oil cooler, but it is obvious since it's a sandwich-adapter style that retains the stock oil filter that it MUST increase oil capacity. That's a good thing though, since more oil means less wear and tear on the oil, plus more stable temperatures. I would like one of these kits and in fact would order one if I could afford it, but at the moment, all i can say is "wow looks great and it costs a fraction of the STI one" which I think is a perfectly fair assessment of the kit.
Thanks nhluhr thats makes sense now, and I totally agree with your opinions. I am surprised more people aren't interested in one of these. It's always a good idea to cool oil temps.
Tom..
khart2 11-10-2002, 04:48 PM between the lines and the cooler itself it will increase the capacity just about 1/2 a quart.
for the front mount guys, as long as you have about an inch in bretween the core and AC condenser you should have no problems with the install. if someone wanted to it could even be mounted in between the AC condenser and the radiator with minimal modifications and you could maintain a nice clean, simple look.
ronaldwrx 11-11-2002, 01:20 PM ive been looking into an oil cooler for a long time and this doesnt look like such a bad deal - i found a site of a guy with a type-r that put together his own oil cooler and ended up at $615 .. he had a remote oil filter holder and thermostat though .., check it out ..
http://www.sportauto.cc/Oil-Cooler/acura_integra_type_r_oil_cooler_text.htm
this is a pretty nice looking JDM aftermarket kit, but not for wrx -
http://www.going-jp.com/op/oilcool.htm
maybe this helps someone .. i dunno.
cheers ..
nunemaker7 11-11-2002, 01:25 PM Originally posted by vividracing
Your comments are much appreciated and others will take them into consideration.
The STI oil cooler which is similar cost about $1500. The parts that we use are not B&M and the actual cost of the complete kit is much greater then $100...MUCH greater.
Of course alot of people do like to make things so good luck and we would all love to see pictures of yours.
VR
Wow, what a diplomat...I for one would spend a few $$$ to get a complete kit and not have to bounce back and forth to the hardware store and auto store. I look forward to the kit being available on a permanent basis...
nhluhr 11-12-2002, 10:31 AM Originally posted by nunemaker7
Wow, what a diplomat...I for one would spend a few $$$ to get a complete kit and not have to bounce back and forth to the hardware store and auto store. I look forward to the kit being available on a permanent basis...
I think Vivid has had problems in the past with responding in a non-diplomatic way to critics... this looks like a new leaf and a possibly a new level of customer service?
Spanky 11-13-2002, 09:30 AM Have you guys done any temp testing...ie...stock vs. oil-cooler equipped? I think oil coolers are one of the best mods you can do to a car you are going to track...I had one on my vr6...oil temps before I installed the cooler were hitting 296 f on the back straight at road atlanta...after installing the cooler I could not get them above 220. Now...here's what I'm worried about. Without an oil stat i had a problem getting temps above 170 f which was too cold and causing water to accumulate in the oil pan cause it wasn't getting hot enough to boil off...installed a sandwich adapter with an oilstat set at about 215 and everything was peachy...
Spanky
Spanky 11-18-2002, 08:03 AM Vivid? Anyone? What are the average temps that people are seeing with this non-stat cooler setup? How long does it take for the oil warm up? Does it get hot enough to boil any condensation in the crank case off? Oil too cold all the time ='s bad...I DO want to buy a kit and I think it's great that you developed a reasonably priced kit...I just don't want to be a test subject unless it comes with a free oil temp guage.
Thanks,
Spanky
sj chibi 06-22-2004, 12:06 AM Thanks for the great information. So my question is I have a stock 2004 STi. Will the vivid set up fit with my stock set up?
Thank you very much.
Without a oilstat how do you prevent the oil from cooling down too much and wouldn't it take forever to get to operating temp.?? Btw does ne one if the STi oil cooler use a thermostat???
SkirtBoy 06-22-2004, 02:00 PM :huh:
whiterabbit 06-23-2004, 02:26 AM subydude.com has an oil cooler for cheaper as well. just giving alternatives to this group buy price
Andrew Bacon 06-23-2004, 03:08 PM Versus the $1800 STi kit this is a good buy...
Now someone needs to come up with a $2000 alternative to the $3200 STi HID lights. :rolleyes:
FryRice 06-24-2004, 12:50 PM :lol: :lol: this was over 2 years ago plus vividracing is no longer a vender..............
lol, didn't even notice that. Tho I am glad I was not the one to bring this thread back from the dead
HighWayDrifter 06-25-2004, 06:20 AM just for the record guys, if you run an oil cooler setup MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A THERMASTAT IN IT.
Or else your just going to gunk up your motor... you would be better off running oil that is a bit hot then oil that is too cool.
(hence the thermastat will only allow oil to go to the cooler when it is getting to hot, there for allways allowing the oil to be at optimum temp)
NewShockerGuy 06-30-2004, 02:38 AM Originally posted by HighWayDrifter
just for the record guys, if you run an oil cooler setup MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A THERMASTAT IN IT.
Or else your just going to gunk up your motor... you would be better off running oil that is a bit hot then oil that is too cool.
(hence the thermastat will only allow oil to go to the cooler when it is getting to hot, there for allways allowing the oil to be at optimum temp)
Wow, I was not aware of that at all! Good info!
Thank you,
-Nigel
Andrew Bacon 06-30-2004, 03:14 AM Thermostatic sandwich plate: Good ones, bad ones? Who makes the quality ones?
On principle I'd avoid anything made by Hayden
ButtDyno 06-30-2004, 04:13 PM Originally posted by Andrew Bacon
Thermostatic sandwich plate: Good ones, bad ones? Who makes the quality ones?
On principle I'd avoid anything made by Hayden Start a new thread :) Don't let the Vivid name last.
john
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