This is the 5th time someone has vandelized one of my family's car. This time someone jacked my dad's HIDs off his 02 Maxima @ 6:17am. We're thinking of getting a guard dog now. Do you think it's worth it? Thanks for your opinions.

Guard dogs can create a liability issue. If the dog were to attack anyone. Yes, even the theif that you're trying to keep away. You can be sued.

:monkey: to the US legal system.

Damn so it looks like there's nothing you can do, but let the thieves keep stealing while you keep forking out money replacing the parts. Next time they should just knock on our door and we give them the money to go buy some HIDs so we don't have to deal with the repairs to other body parts that they damaged trying to steal the parts.

:monkey: car thieves that don't know how much it is to fix the shiet they left behind

http://www.digitaldog.com/breeds.html

Actually... if you're interested, someone's selling purebred pitbulls in the Private Classifieds. Lemme find the thread for you.

P.

Found it.

Pitbulls "R" Us (http://forums.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=258221).

Thanks Pat. I found that thread. Are pits good dogs to have?

How about Dobermans? I just read the profile on them in digitaldog and they sound like great dogs to have for protection.

Well... they're both used as fighting dogs.

here is a wild thought....

Why not move! Perhaps your neighborhood isn't what it used to be?

-mike

Haha! That could work. But it would also cost so much more. Oh... and take up a lot of time. etc.

Dude get a german shepard...Smart, extremely loyal to its owner....and best of all it will protect its family at all costs....Great dog...

Many on this forum have met my "advanced home and car security system", a/k/a my pitbull, at meets. She's a cutie! And basically harmless. But when she barks at seeming intruders, believe me, they give a second thought. (Many were warned not to pet her while she's eating steak!)

This is not the case with Paisan's dog. :p (Miniature poodle.)

This is not the case with Paisan's dog. :p (Miniature poodle.)

and major poop factory

Or my Foo. (Yorkshire Terrier)

Originally posted by paisan
here is a wild thought....

Why not move! Perhaps your neighborhood isn't what it used to be?

-mike

Yeah that's the other option.

Looks like I have to do more research. So far a Doberman, pitbull, and german shepard look like viable candidates.

Shepards are the best for guard dogs

Originally posted by Pinochle
Or my Foo. (Yorkshire Terrier)

Hahah that's mad cute!

Originally posted by JePereza WRX
Hahah that's mad cute!
Thanks! He totally rocks! A whopping 8lbs! And for his breed, he's huge! :lol:

Oh... BTW.

Foo has a BIG BARK!

Even he intimidates some. :)

And she loves the car!

Originally posted by bedabi
And she loves the car!
Haha! I like your dog. She's fun. I'm one of the people you warned about her eating steak. :lol:

Any dog you get, that is of medium size should deter any unwanted people. I had a Black Lab that was the sweetest dog in the world, but acted like he would shred you to pieces if you came near the house. He had a very BIG bark and no Bite. Get a good mannered dog that can still look vicouous ( sp ??) and that should do.

:)

Originally posted by Pinochle
Oh... BTW.

Foo has a BIG BARK!

Even he intimidates some. :)
Nhabi (my pit), like most pits has a pretty wimpy bark. And she looks very friendly because of her floppy ears. But when people see her hanging by her teeth of large sticks while her neck is tuggin away, they start to think about their arms in place of that stick.........:devil:

Foo-Qua's got bling! Like P's car.

Aww yeah!

Featuring the song, "Sippin' on Water and Pedigree."

Hahah great dogs guys. Does your dog always bark or would he bark if he/she were to hear something suspicious outside (say someone stealing parts or your car outside) ?

Well, we live in an apartment. She's pretty quiet unless she hears someone outside in the hallway. Then she gives a couple of, "I'll F you up" barks and jumps and pounds on the door real high to make herself seem bigger. But if it's someone out there following the front door buzzer, she doesn't bark, because she think's it's a food delivery! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by JePereza WRX
Hahah great dogs guys. Does your dog always bark or would he bark if he/she were to hear something suspicious outside (say someone stealing parts or your car outside) ?
Foo's actually very quiet. But whenever anyone new comes around. Or if he hears a noise in the house... he'll say "Hello."

Bling Bark!

as long as it is well bred, a doberman is a great dog. very trainable, deadly loyal and more managable than a Rotty...and (imo) more predictable than any comparably priced "guard" dog (w/ exception of an german shepard). but i think that they do not carry the same intimidation factor as a doberman. i know of an excellent breeder located in PA, not sure where you are...but they will be about 400-500 bucks. hope i helped.

kev

Originally posted by Pinochle
Well... they're both used as fighting dogs.

that doesn't mean anything. any dog will be dangerous if it's trained to be that way.

pits who have been raised normally are wonderful dogs. in reality, smaller dogs are actually more dangerous and tempermental...my gf's sister has a sheltie and a pug. the pug is REALLY nice to people, he's a certified "therapy dog" -- but the other day, he attacked the Sheltie and had him by the throat b/c the Sheltie got a treat and the pug didn't.

if you're looking for a guard dog, stay away from Labs. they're my favorite dogs, but aren't worth a damn as protection or intimidation.:)

Oh... I didn't mean that in a bad way. Just stating the fact that there's a reason they are commonly used as fighting dogs. Unfortunately.

<-- doesn't like fighting. Not even for "sport."

Originally posted by Pinochle

Foo's actually very quiet. But whenever anyone new comes around. Or if he hears a noise in the house... he'll say "Hello."

Heh... Foo, the wonder-dog. Love that dog. However, 'saying Hello' is an understatement for that little guy. Imagine your kid all hopped-up on Jolt cola and pure-sugar, then replace said kid with Foo, and it's more like

'hihelloI'mFoowhoareyoudoyouhavefooddoyouwantoplay letmejumpalloveryouandlickyourhandandfacewhere'smy ballthrowmyballandI'llgofetchitandbringitbackandwa itforyoutopetmeandthrowtheballagainandthenmaybeI'l lbeabletojumponthecouchmyparentstheydon'tletmeonth ecouchbutyoumightandI'llbeallfriendlyjustincase'

:lol: :lol: :D

Sorry, Pat, I couldn't resist...

-Gary

*swoons*

He takes after me! :D

Originally posted by rockt104
as long as it is well bred, a doberman is a great dog. very trainable, deadly loyal and more managable than a Rotty...and (imo) more predictable than any comparably priced "guard" dog (w/ exception of an german shepard). but i think that they do not carry the same intimidation factor as a doberman. i know of an excellent breeder located in PA, not sure where you are...but they will be about 400-500 bucks. hope i helped.

kev

I'm located in north jersey. I'm about an hour away from the Crossings in PA. Is the breeder you know near there? I've been actually reading more and more on the Doberman and they seem like the ideal dog for me. I do wanna talk to people who have them to see what it's like having one and what are some of the Doberman's needs.

Originally posted by Pinochle
*swoons*

He takes after me! :D

Who, Foo, or me? ;)

-Gary

Are you looking for an attack dog or a warning dog (one that will wake up in the sleep if they hear a fox walking though the yard at 3AM?) that has a loud bark?

My dog's bark is loud, I mean LOUD. She's a mix between a Rhodesian Ridgeback (3 grown Rhodesians can take down an African Lion) and a Weimeraner (Another German Hunting Dog) with supurb hearing.

Both of these dogs are quite loyal to the owners.
From the AKC Site:
"The Ridgeback was bred to hunt game, but also to guard homes and protect families. This is a strong dog, but one who wants to please. He is proud, dignified, and courageous, devoted to his family, and protective and loving of children."
More on the Ridgeback: http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/rhodrdge.cfm

Here's a good read on the breed: http://www.akc.org/breeds/fb_rhodesianridge.cfm

"The Weimaraner is a big, bold dog. They are smart and their busy minds thrive on activity. They are strong and determined, needing time, space, and attention. If you want the challenges of keeping ahead of the fearless "gray ghost", and your daily activities can include your dog, you may be suited to the Weimaraner. He loves kids and is used to being a member of a family."
More on the Weimeraner: http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/weim.cfm

If you want to research more dogs, check out http://www.akc.org

You won't go wrong with either of these dogs. My family has had in the past one or two at times of each dog. The Rhodesian will wake on the slighest noise of an animal in the yard. It's amixed blessing... they like to protect and will do so at 3AM sometimes. ;)

Plus, it's a different kind of dog than the more common Shepards, Dobes or Rotties.

--KC

Ya that yorkie is actually pretty big...I bought my girl a pure yorkie....its the freakin cutest thing.....Its only like 4 pounds fully grown....its a small yorkie, but super cute....

My homeowner's insurance policy has an exclusion for liability caused by a Rottweiler or a Pitbull. Check your parents' insurance exclusions before you decide.

Originally posted by Prime Mover
Who, Foo, or me? ;)

-Gary
Hopefully both!

:lol:

Originally posted by DannyGT
Ya that yorkie is actually pretty big...I bought my girl a pure yorkie....its the freakin cutest thing.....Its only like 4 pounds fully grown....its a small yorkie, but super cute....
Haha! Foo's purebred too. We got him from a well known show dog breeder.

My ex's Yorkie is even bigger! And he's a purebred too! Whee!

Originally posted by SC TL
My homeowner's insurance policy has an exclusion for liability caused by a Rottweiler or a Pitbull. Check your parents' insurance exclusions before you decide.
Most insurance companies have a problem with certain breeds of dogs. Most common are Pitbulls, Rottweilers, Dobermans & German Sheppards.

The problem only presents itself if they find out about it of course. 99.9% of companies are currently doing on-site inspections on every home that is a new client for them.

Originally posted by Pinochle
Haha! That could work. But it would also cost so much more. Oh... and take up a lot of time. etc.

Before you get a dog... think long and hard, then wait a couple more months. I could move once every other month and it would still take up less of my time than my dog. :p I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who isn't already tied down with a house and kids. :( It might just be easier to just build a garage...

P.S. the guard dog would only be helpful if it's fenced in the same area as the car. If you park your cars in a fenced in area already, and people are stealing parts off them, then maybe Mike is right and you need to move to a new neighborhood.

Yeah maybe it's time to hoist that For Sale sign and get outta there before it gets worse.

Guard Dog

Ask Mitch if you can have one of his guard dogs...

I heard he wants to get rid of this one.

:eek: Attack in a Box!!!

A pug. Mean.. VERY mean :lol:

whoops.. o well..wont post my pics for some reason.. Any ideas?

Noob
J

My vote goes to the Bullmastiff. Just read this

http://www.digitaldog.com/bullmastiff.html

I's be a little scared if I ran into one of these. Even if it was a nice one. Also they are said to be very territorial and an excellent watchdog. With proper training and socializtion I think this dog could be a great watchdog as well as a good addition to a family. A lot of other breeds are also. I just like the look and strength of this dog,

Bryan

Originally posted by BluSuby
My vote goes to the Bullmastiff.
Beautiful dog and not very common, which makes it cool. I've only seen 1 in person. :)

Definitely not my dog. My dog is very how you say... weird. I don't even know what kind of breed she is. She was the runt of the litter and you can tell.

I would say a Pit. Or a HK 45 !

.Felony (http://hometown.aol.com/pitbul09/)

bullmastif are reat dogs, never had one, but from the dog shows i ahve been to they are very loyal to their owners, and are real easy (they sleep, a lot).
i have one english bull dog. she barks for fun, has a tear duct popped out, and i think she is retarded. i think the only reason we still ahve her is because of how dumb she lokks, and because she makes funy noises.
i also have a rottweiler. he is extremely loyal and is a big baby. still sits on my lap and still takes up the whole bed (thats right, he sleeps with me, no sick jokes, please, errr, go for it if you want :D ). the thing with him iss if i am mad at a friend i can't have that freind come over because my dog senses this, and then attacks him (found that out the hard way). other than that he gets along very well, but he also doens't like people that are much bigger than me. they are great dogs, and if you get one from a good breeder you will never want a another type of dog. you will also eventually get used to their "purring".

edit: arg, double post, mods please delete this post right here whenever you get a chance.

This oughta scare them, Put this on your window...
http://isuzu-suvs.com/autox/ax-06-29-02/images/DSCN4696.jpg
:D :cool:

j/k

IPiGl : I'll have to print this out and try it :D

pitbul09: :lol: Eyes wide shut? That's funny!

Yeeea if i yell at her she shuts her eyes its so funny so now i say do "china dog" and she shuts her eyes like in the picture. lol

Aww yeah! It's The black Man with the Golden Impact Gun!

http://www.garrickgoh.com/iclubdls/tbg.jpg

Top that, Bling Frogg! :devil:

:)

:lol:

i wouldn't touch this guy's car.. ;)

True. No one will touch my ride once they see the Skillionaires and the man with the impact bling!

...<<ting>> I'm almost blinded her!!!

Who said Spencer Ain't Unusual?

get a Presa Canario

can't be beat for obedience and guarding

German Shepherds are the smartest and most loyal guard dogs period. They are the easiest to train out of all the others mentioned. I had one growing up in the Bronx and no one ever bothered trying to rob us, even though all our neighbors were being robbed. I have a Presa Canario now and its a great dog, but not nearly as smart as a shepherd. My favorite dogs are the Ridgebacks, but they do need alot of attention. Forget the Dobie, there's a reason SHepherds are the most widely used dogs by Police, INTELLIGENCE. The only dog smarter than a Shepherd is a border Collie, but I don't think you want one of those for protection.

oh cool, thats me.:D

Originally posted by TurismoLou
Forget the Dobie, there's a reason SHepherds are the most widely used dogs by Police, INTELLIGENCE. The only dog smarter than a Shepherd is a border Collie, but I don't think you want one of those for protection. Not too hard to be smarter than cops. (Did I just say that?) :D :devil:

And about Ridgebacks... yep require alot of attention. But really easy on the shedding. (take that Shepherd lovers.) ;)

--kC

Check out the Cain Corso. The superior guard dog. Used in europe to hunt bear. Big money, need plenty of land, and lots of tlc.It is in the mastiff family. You have to know what your doing to own one. Youll never have to worry about your property.

Here ya go. Good 'ol i-Club breedin dogs for ya.

Pure Breed Pitbuls. (http://forums.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=258221)

~~MikE--

Originally posted by MightyWRX02
Here ya go. Good 'ol i-Club breedin dogs for ya.

Pure Breed Pitbuls. (http://forums.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=258221)

~~MikE--
WTLW!!!

Yeah, welcome to page one of this thread :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Pinochle

WTLW!!!

Bah, + 1 for you. I'll catch one of your mistakes one of these days.

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~~MikE--

Hee hee! Way to keep count! :D

P.

Originally posted by Pinochle
Hee hee! Way to keep count! :D

P.

*Examins Reply*

Damb it, no mistake there.

:)

~~MikE--

Originally posted by MightyWRX02


*Examins Reply*

Damb it, no mistake there.

:)

~~MikE--
*Examines.

*Damn.

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Whee! :D

i would highly recommend the American Staffordshire Terrier. i have one, and she looks very much like the dog hanging out the car window a few pages back. total babies until someone tries to come into your place without permission. then it's game on, and your gonna lose. also the presa someone talked about earlier too. except you should have ample experience with big dogs before you get this one. and be ready to spend some serious cash on food for him.

Originally posted by Pinochle

*Examines.

*Damn.

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Whee! :D

Damb is spelled correctly so I believe that's two, not three. Therefor. . .

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:cool:

~~MikE--

Originally posted by MightyWRX02


Damb is spelled correctly so I believe that's two, not three. Therefor. . .

Pinochle 2
MightyWRX02 1

:cool:

~~MikE--
*Damn (http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=damn). <-- Click me.

*Therefore.

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:D

someone had said that they wanted info from north jersey about dogs...i live in north jersey and i have been working as a vet assistant for almost 5 years now. (i can get you some names of the best breeders around) i have seen many breeds of dogs...some i want to kick and others i want to take home with me. your best bet for not only safety of your cars but the safety of your home owners insurance. English Mastiff. they are loyal, sweet, intellegent, big, bark to boot. they wouldn't attack unless they are trained to. but if i was to go mess with someone's car and this 160lb dog came at me...damn i would get the %*&) out of there...if you want really big, go for the largest dog in the world, an Irish Wolf hound. those were the dogs they used in England back in the day for hunting humans down and killing them. (they are in Robin Hood, Prince of Theives) if you just want an alarm clock...get a little jack russell terrier...smartest dogs ...loud, annoying, energetic, ect, but really smart.

ok i am done b/sing

Kelli

Hey Kelli,

Would you happen to know of any good Corgi breeders? We're in the market for one, but nobody seems to have any puppies in stock. :p

Either a puppy from a rescue or an ethical breeder would work for us.

Are you up near Lil' Wayne at all?

Thanks!
~G

Originally posted by RidinLow
Hey Kelli,

Would you happen to know of any good Corgi breeders? We're in the market for one, but nobody seems to have any puppies in stock. :p

Either a puppy from a rescue or an ethical breeder would work for us.

Are you up near Lil' Wayne at all?

Thanks!
~G

those are the little brown dogs right? short but long? i know a man that come in with like 6 of them each vet visit. he is really nice, he is a resquer. i think i could ask him for info. i'll try my best to get back to you with it asap..

Kelli

Yeah, these guys:

http://animal.discovery.com/guides/dogs/selector/gallery/1170b.jpg

that thing's got no legs!

Originally posted by froggert
that thing's got no legs!
It's RidinLow. :)

Originally posted by TurismoLou
Forget the Dobie, there's a reason SHepherds are the most widely used dogs by Police, INTELLIGENCE. The only dog smarter than a Shepherd is a border Collie, but I don't think you want one of those for protection.

If you're saying that Dobes are dumb, then :monkey:
'Course, I might be biased -

Originally posted by Pinochle

It's RidinLow. :)

Exactly! They say Corgis are just like German Shepherd Dogs, but lower to the ground. ;)

It was tough being at the breeder and listening to a 60 yr old woman use phrases like "pretty bitch" or "silly bitch" over and over again while smiling politely. :cool:

:lol: Damn/damb i missed alot of funny shiet.

Hey Kelli, would you happen to know any good Dobie breeders? The only one I've contacted was a guy in Spring Valley, NY.

Well, I'm not Kelli; but I'd say a good place to start for dobes is the DPCA referral service. Go to their site HERE (http://www.dpca.org) , and follow the link. That's where we started, along with a stack of books about the breed. Just stay away from the 'backyard breeders' and any kennel in PA named Kimbertal.

DD

Edit: also, if it hasn't already been mentioned, www.akc.org (http://www.akc.org) , for general info about all sorts of canines.

Originally posted by RidinLow
Exactly! They say Corgis are just like German Shepherd Dogs, but lower to the ground. ;)

figures that you'd find a lowrider dog. :) can he do a three-wheel?

whoa

Originally posted by DoubleD


If you're saying that Dobes are dumb, then :monkey:
'Course, I might be biased -


Dobies aren't dumb, just alot less intelligent than Shepherds.;)

... CANE CORSO excellent dog & real soldier.