Poor sales? [Archive]

Jon [in CT]

12-12-2002, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by tselway
They have one on Wheel of Fortune this week. That's funny. I wonder how Subaru decided that a large proportion of potential Baja buyers watch Wheel of Fortune.

Have Baja sales already peaked at less than 1000 per month?

Sep - 415
Oct - 881
Nov - 606

The Subaru press release announcing November sales said "Sales of the Baja model decreased slightly this month, ..." A 31 percent decline from the previous month is slight?

Subie Gal

12-12-2002, 03:30 PM

yikes... 31% eh...?

would be more beneficial to them IMHO to advertise it a bit more... there is a market for the car out there... they just arent reaching it...

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biggreen96

12-12-2002, 03:55 PM

IMO they should have spent all the money they used for the Baja on bringing the B4 or other fast Legacys over;) I like the baja though, its brat-tastic.

Pipercub

12-12-2002, 04:22 PM

Had it arrived with the supercharged EJ25, dual range tranny short front and rear overhangs and some of the other features they pimped it with at the autoshows it would have sold like crazy. Take away all the uniqe and useful features and the sales go away as well.

Nissan came out with a supercharged small SUV and people gobbled it up. Subaru says they are then welch on it and put in the basic EJ25, people walk away.

I am a prime example. I WAS going to get one. But with the changes I would have to make for it to be useful I would be investing 10Gs over the already inflated purchase price just to get it close to where 2k would have gotten me had it included the SC and dual range tranny. Then the front and rear overhang would still be murder.

So I just elected to put that money into the monster BRAT already in hanger 51.

Have you driven over a Baja lately? (meant in good humor)

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LinuxGuy

12-12-2002, 04:45 PM

just put a tonneau covor on the bed, a nice looking body kit, good sport tires/rims/suspension LSD's and an STi engine.... That Will Sell!!!!!

BJamerican

12-12-2002, 05:33 PM

Subaru is advertising the Baja like crazy on TV around here. It's on every station during nearly every program. However, no matter how often they play their commercials, Subaru's commercials SUCK! They really do need to find a new advertising agency. Look at Kia commercials (funny), or Mazda (zoom zoom = catchy). The Baja commercial consists of a bland white screen showing the Baja rotate while someone says "The world's first multiple choice vehicle." It doesn't get anybody's attention.

I think sales will take off once they put a bigger engine in the Baja.

deadbolt

12-12-2002, 05:47 PM

I can't figure it out, we can't keep em on the lot here. I was lucky we managed to find exactly the one I wanted, silver 5 spd with nothing on it.

We sold 10 last month and already have sold 3 this month.

LinuxGuy

12-12-2002, 06:54 PM

subarus catchy phrase to compete with mazda's zoom zoom

vroom vroom?

Scoobie Newbie

12-12-2002, 11:44 PM

I think they're trying to cater to the California and extreme sports type. Get rid of that clading.

cardin555

12-13-2002, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by deadbolt
I can't figure it out, we can't keep em on the lot here. I was lucky we managed to find exactly the one I wanted, silver 5 spd with nothing on it.

We sold 10 last month and already have sold 3 this month.

We have not sold one yet since they have been out. I heard that they have already stopped producing them.

Scoobie Newbie

12-13-2002, 12:01 PM

You can't be serious can you. I mean, I'm Subaru will get it a couple of car seasons before pulling the plug.

Malfrag

12-13-2002, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by LinuxGuy
subarus catchy phrase to compete with mazda's zoom zoom

vroom vroom?

Actually, vroom vroom is the french version of Mazda's zoom zoom commercials up here in Quebec.

deadbolt

12-13-2002, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by cardin555

I heard that they have already stopped producing them.

Where in the world did you hear that?!?

cardin555

12-13-2002, 02:06 PM

The owner here and one of the regional sales reps.
Of course, we know how reliable some of these company people can be.:rolleyes:

Subie Gal

12-13-2002, 02:16 PM

stopped producing :lol: yeah right...

i just dont think they're marketing it very heavily right now...

but we've sold quite a few - erm... not even sure we have any left on the lot! :)

i wouldnt worry too much about it...
not yet anyway.

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LA1Mike

12-13-2002, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Subie Gal
[B]really tho...
subaru hasnt put a lot into advertising this car as far as i can tell.

Really?

Most automotive magazines seem to carry the Baja ads.

And down here in So Cal, we have the Baja ads at the local movie theater as well. Not to mention the TV ads...

However, I have not seen any Baja driving around...

Mr Cheese

12-13-2002, 07:12 PM

i believe i read in a car and driver a few months ago that subaru was targeting around 2000 a month and they are now barely selling 1/4 of that lol

baja is a joke get an outback wagon

12-13-2002, 07:57 PM

Car sales always seem to be better in Spring time, subaru might be waiting to start its marketing campaign later. The dealership here has one, it looks nice, but I find it a bit expensive for what you get.

b_tapper

12-13-2002, 09:19 PM

I liked it until I pressed the gas pedal down...makes my rs seem fast :(

TOMMY B

12-14-2002, 09:50 AM

The Subaru Dealer near me has not sold "one" thay have 10 cars on the lot, Thay have only given 8 or 9 test drives for it to boot.

If I was running Subaru this would be the new plan, Use the word "BRAT", Take off all the Plastic body Crap !! and I mean Crap !! put 2 small seats in the open back, Bring price down to a Legacy L or Brightin $ 16,999

Keep it simple........... and cheap, Then I think it would work ? But who the hell knows...........

Can you say SVX........:p

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deadbolt

12-14-2002, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Mr Cheese

baja is a joke get an outback wagon

Ya know momma always said that if you can't say anything nice....

;)

How would you like it if someone said:

1993 Legacy 2.2TAWD is a joke, get a WRX!

QuikLegacy

12-15-2002, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by Mr Cheese
i believe i read in a car and driver a few months ago that subaru was targeting around 2000 a month and they are now barely selling 1/4 of that lol

baja is a joke get an outback wagon

W3rd, what exactly is the point of the Baja? The bed is so small you can't haul anything of size. It's not enclosed like an Outback. It's obviously not a hot rod, with a plain jane 2.5 in it. It also has more cladding than a Pontiac Aztek. To me it's just rather useless. Baja=bastardized Outback.:lol:

-Faast

deadbolt

12-15-2002, 04:04 PM

If you had ever tried to haul 2 sets of my race tires in an Outback you would see the usefulness of the bed. You can barely fit one set in my Outback with the rear seat down. You can fit two and still have leftover room in my Baja. ;) 'nuff said?

Lou

12-15-2002, 04:09 PM

As far as the 2.5 engine hurting sales. Haven't the Legacy's been selling like hotcakes for a few years with that engine? In fact probably 70% of the new Outbacks I see are still the 2.5 and not the H6.

Mr Cheese

12-15-2002, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by deadbolt
If you had ever tried to haul 2 sets of my race tires in an Outback you would see the usefulness of the bed. You can barely fit one set in my Outback with the rear seat down. You can fit two and still have leftover room in my Baja. ;) 'nuff said?

i agree that there some things that the baja could possibly do better than an outback, but im sure you could make it work with an outback somehow. there are just some issues i have with the baja, 1) the passthrough is very small, so such things that are both long and have a lot a depth would suit much better in an outback. 2)The majority of the items that you will be carrying ( iirc the baja and the outback have the same or nearly identical gross vehicle weight) will likely be better off under the roof of the outback (read: not all - your tires for example). 3) additional options in the outback - h6, colors, interior acc etc (yes costs more but the option is there). 4) and doesnt the outback have even better approach/departure angles than the baja.

then of course there is the personal opinion on aesthetics ( i think the outback is done in a more tasteful manor) but the baja sure is unique, and i applaud you and anyone else who buys it for that reason alone. and sure there are people who may need to carry specific things like your tires that fits better in a baja, but that is gonna be a very small amount of people, and hence the slow sales. im just saying on terms of overall practicality, it seems clear that the outback wins hands down.

of course this is all coming from a person who would even argue a legacy gt wagon over an outback, so feel free to flame me all you want.

and also on a side note, you can say my car is a joke compared to a wrx ( i will disagree with you tho ;) ) but you have to ask yourself this question before hand; was my car a joke 10 years ago?

:D

deadbolt

12-15-2002, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Mr Cheese

and also on a side note, you can say my car is a joke compared to a wrx ( i will disagree with you tho ;) ) but you have to ask yourself this question before hand; was my car a joke 10 years ago?

:D

I never actually said that, I simply asked how you would like it. ;) Your comment that that Baja was a joke came off as quite rude and distasteful, especially considering that you put it in the Baja forum. It would be like going to the svx board and flaming an SVX, or into the General Forum here and saying that Subaru's in general suck.

As I have said time and time again, people take the anonymity of being behind a computer for granted sometimes. If your best friend paid $24,000 and bought a Baja and brought it over to show you, would you say to him "That thing is a joke." Or would you silently think it to yourself? ;) Just something to think about.

lenyx

12-16-2002, 01:39 AM

I had a friend that wanted to buy one. Then he realized that for $10K less he could just buy a Toyota Tacoma or something similar.

I think the Baja's price is a little steep for something that doesn't offer much in any department except wierdness factor.

Pipercub

12-16-2002, 08:32 AM

I have said it before and I will say it again. For me to pay anything close to 24 it would have to include the H6, dual range, and some other features.

Mr Cheese

12-16-2002, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by deadbolt

As I have said time and time again, people take the anonymity of being behind a computer for granted sometimes. If your best friend paid $24,000 and bought a Baja and brought it over to show you, would you say to him "That thing is a joke." Or would you silently think it to yourself? ;) Just something to think about.

well this is true, but also take in consideration saying something behind a computer does not have the same meaning as saying something to someones face. Me throwing out the idea that the baja is a joke in this forum, is not equivalent to me directly telling this to anybody in person. if i were to say that to your face, i would have to have very strong feelings toward my opinion, such as i really think bajas plain out suck. this is obviously not the case, as i am a subaru enthusiast in general. This also encourages a response from people like you who through extensive research (owning said vehicle) to enlighten me and prove me wrong. Unfortunately i'm not convinced that the baja is yet a worthy vehicle because of your "racing tires" .

sorry

juice

12-16-2002, 05:46 PM

fitzmall.com sells them in MD for about $22k now, and that's before incentives kick in. They were $500-1200 last year, depending upon your timing.

I saw an SIA brochure that said they were going to start making a model without the leather, so that'll bring price down another grand or so.

So those two could potentially bring real-world prices down below $20 grand.

They could even go further and delete the cladding and the standard moonroof.

I dunno about a Tacoma costing less, though. A 4WD crew cab V6 will actually cost more, and the Baja might still outrun even the V6. C&D's 0-60 was quicker than the Explorer SporTrac and the Frontier Crew Cab even with the SC!

I do agree with Pipercub, though. Give it a full midgate, more power, and the low range, and maybe it would fine those 2000 customers.

It should get a turbo by summer, though. If so I'll take another look.

-juice

QuikLegacy

12-16-2002, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by juice
fitzmall.com sells them in MD for about $22k now, and that's before incentives kick in. They were $500-1200 last year, depending upon your timing.

I saw an SIA brochure that said they were going to start making a model without the leather, so that'll bring price down another grand or so.

So those two could potentially bring real-world prices down below $20 grand.

They could even go further and delete the cladding and the standard moonroof.

I dunno about a Tacoma costing less, though. A 4WD crew cab V6 will actually cost more, and the Baja might still outrun even the V6. C&D's 0-60 was quicker than the Explorer SporTrac and the Frontier Crew Cab even with the SC!

I do agree with Pipercub, though. Give it a full midgate, more power, and the low range, and maybe it would fine those 2000 customers.

It should get a turbo by summer, though. If so I'll take another look.

-juice

Magazine racing=bad:lol:

-Faast

Smoke Show

12-16-2002, 10:15 PM

i hate that bottom plastic look.. chevy did it with there avalanche too and i almost left them for it! i said almost....

its ugly.. no way in hell woul di buy one.. i'll get a truck before it or an el camino for way cheaper!

thats my 2 cents.... sorry

QuikLegacy

12-18-2002, 12:00 AM

It will take them a model year but Subaru will learn that cheap looking cladding is a bad thing. Chevy and Pontiac both learned this the hard way.

-Faast

wrx2.0 555

12-22-2002, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Pipercub
I have said it before and I will say it again. For me to pay anything close to 24 it would have to include the H6, dual range, and some other features.

I have to wonder where on this planet you guys buy cars...

One post mentioned for 10K less he could get a tacoma????

Add leather, pw, pdl, sunroof, cruise, cd player, 4x4, auto---Then see how much your Tacoma is.. Not to mention, it will probably also have to be a 2 door standard cab...

Remember, all of those above mentioned items are standard on the Baja.. Ours came with the bed extender and cargo net, still about 25k....

Toolatecrew

12-22-2002, 11:23 PM

There was one in the showroom the other day kinda nice inside leather moonroof 5speed. Then I look et the price tage $34 00 Canadian! The is more than a WRX. Sure it has a small bed back there but at more than 8000 Canadian than an outback or RS for the same engine transmission etc please.

Chromer

12-23-2002, 10:34 PM

I get the feeling Subaru US asked FHI to make them a truck, and FHI didn't do enough homework on the US market.

It needs:

Low range
Lockable diffs (all 3) in low range
A bed large enough for a 4x8 sheet of plywood.
A minimum of 30 degree approach angles. 45 would be even better, 60 would be really nice.
Rated to tow 2500 lbs.
...and the H6 as an option.

Until then, it's neither off-road capable nor a capable hauling vehicle.

nomadtw

12-24-2002, 01:25 AM

the stx had that

Keith99RS

12-29-2002, 06:21 PM

BajaGirl

01-17-2003, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Mr Cheese

then of course there is the personal opinion on aesthetics ( i think the outback is done in a more tasteful manor) but the baja sure is unique, and i applaud you and anyone else who buys it for that reason alone. and sure there are people who may need to carry specific things like your tires that fits better in a baja, but that is gonna be a very small amount of people, and hence the slow sales. im just saying on terms of overall practicality, it seems clear that the outback wins hands down.

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:D

i have to agree. the baja has a personality of its own and compliments the drivers. there are many useful things that the car can do. who cares if it doesnt run the speed of a WRX as it wasn't made for that and if that is what you wanted then thats what you would have bought. i love my Baja as it fits my personality and if you don't love it WHO CAREs!:p

Kostamojen

01-18-2003, 06:07 AM

If Subaru wants to sell them, put the H6 in and NOT the turbo like they are planning (General US public wants more cylinders not a turbo in their truckish things) and strip it down for weight savings, cost lowering, and body cladding removing. Thats all it really needs.

I would still get a forester instead. Its lighter, has a better interior, cheaper, and looks better.

Rotorflyr

02-03-2003, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by BJamerican
The Baja commercial consists of a bland white screen showing the Baja rotate while someone says "The world's first multiple choice vehicle."

Can't say I have ever heard that commercial but I can believe they would claim that (seems they forgot the Avalanche) just like they claimed the Outback was the first sport-ute wagon (seems they forgot the AMC Eagle)
I agree with the comment they need to get rid of their current ad agency.....

Rotorflyr

02-03-2003, 12:37 AM

spacemonkey

02-03-2003, 02:10 AM

My baja works for me. I love it! it does what I need it to do (cary's stuff etc.) As for personalitywise the baja is quirky i'll admit that, but then again i smile to myself everytime somebody in their one of thousands honda,toyota,mitsu,nissan etc.(even gotten some looks from people in the LUXURY cars!!) can't keep their eyes off it at the stop sign or stoplight.
Price wise, yes it could be better but, the leather seats are so yummy and the full way power adjustable drivers seat is a blast to play w/ (yes i'm younger when left alone w/ my toys).
But then again how many of them can back up to the beach, throw a pillow in the bed and just sit and watch the surf??

Basically I rock my baja everywhere i go. Now only if i could find her a B4 hood.... :devil:
monkey-
p.s. her name is tiffany(though she's told me at times she much prefers tiff)

Benjamin Tang

02-04-2003, 12:12 AM

i just came back from a local dealer (went to look at some foresters). i was staring at a baja outside the showroom wondering what the heck to think about it and ended up chatting with the salesperson that used to lease my wrx before i bought it. he told me they had ordered something like 20 bajas when they first came out... and all of them are still in the lot. they have a really low mileage demonstrator that they knocked over $5k off the price and they can't even give it away. on the other hand foresters are going like hotcakes... even the ones they use for service loaners keep disappearing. he said most likely they will be using the bajas to replace the forester service loaners in an effort to give the car more exposure out there...

ajabobrut

08-01-2004, 02:48 PM

I have a feeling that Subaru is losing a lot of money on the Baja... they're not moving any units...

On autosite, it reported 415 units sold in September 2002... :eek: They've gotta be losing money on it with sales that poor!

Things like this scare me when it comes to FHI bringing over the high HP variants of the cars we have now...

I don't think there losing that much when the Baja is built off an old platform.
ITs there own fault for not advertising there product like it should be.If they would advertise it like the others,sales would be higher.Why spend the time and money on a product and not advertise,it's not going to sell cause people don't know it what your selling.

rsholland

08-01-2004, 04:44 PM

And unlike other Subies, there are absolutely no other upgrades for '05 as far as I can see. There has been no marketing on this vehicle; no print ads, no TV commercials, zero, zip, nada, nothing. Dealers don't even have '05 Baja brochures yet, and the '05 Baja has been on sale for well over a month by now. It's pretty clear Subaru has given up on the Baja, at least in it's current form.

It's funny, I drove an '05 turbo 5-speed yesterday, and it's a pretty neat little trucklet. It's not perfect by any means, but I sure hope it survives into a next-generation model.

Bob

gentzleon

08-02-2004, 01:17 AM

ok to all you non baja lovers all i can tell you is one thing i will really love to see youre eyes wide open as i fly right past you and carriyng boxes in my bed.this has a sti engine just not fully upgraded but when you know youre stuff you can get the 300hp the sti has just like mine did. and guess what where am i gonna take that big screen tv to my house in? my baja of course its got the room. :lol:

ajabobrut

08-02-2004, 07:46 PM

I was told that Subaru Detuned the Baja on purpose cause the 2.5 has more torque than the 2.0 They said it was done by a smaller intercooler,exhaust,computer mapping.I guess they didn't wanna hurt the WRX sales by out running it with a Baja.Maybe in 06,lets hope so.

2003Baja

08-02-2004, 11:11 PM

I too am slowly starting to dislike the baja honestly. I do love it for snow and all. Its just so small And I already lost back seats due to my subwoofer. I didnt really like how I could keep the gas to the floor and still be only doing 35 mph in 4th at 3k rpm in an auto. I know there are turbos out but that only gives out an extra 45 hp (not bad but still not impressive), unlike the wrx which gives out 227 hp and goes to 0 to 60 in 5.4 seconds (not 13 like my baja) Should be getting a new WRX by the end of auguest to the middle of december but that DOES not mean I am getting rid of the baja (cause it is the bomb in winter).

BajaGirl

08-03-2004, 02:46 AM

Sorry for the people comparing the Baja to a truck, just because it has a bed doesn't mean it is a truck. Some of the logic you are using would also dictate that the Outback is a farce compared to Explorers and the like. Neither vehicle (Outback or Baja) is, or was, made to tackle the Rubicon. How many people that don't do hardcore off road even use lowrange on a transfer case??? The Baja was meant to be an alternative to a truck for people who want a car like ride and handling with the benefit of AWD and an open rear bed, much like the Outback fit a niche for people who wanted SUV characteristics without a buch of stuff they'd never use. I'd say so far the Outback has been pretty successful.

I'm not totally on the Baja bandwagon. I too feel that it should have been made to have a heavier load rating and towing capacity. I also agree on the engine issues as well. Actually I feel Subaru made a mistake by putting the 2.5 in all their cars except the high end models. The Legacy's and Outback's are long overdue for a higher HP powerplant for the base models to stay competitive. The cars are getting heavier with each redesign and the HP is staying the same. They already made this mistake with the GL and Loyale wagons.

I know that it isn't exactly a truck but has been very useful to see the rally and go camping. I know that I couldn't fit four people and all our camping gear in a wagon. The baja fits taller items and a box that you wouldn't even begin to fit in a wagon (if you want to close the tailgate). I like the fact that I can take trips with more than myself and just my stuff. In the mountains it may have a little trouble due to the lack of power but I don't have a problem getting there (its adequate). Also, why would I want to get a pickup that I would spend more gas on? I think that If I was trying to haul extremly heavy loads I could rent something that would do the job. I understand if you were constantly carrying heavier objects like farm equipment or hauling a boat, obviously this isn't the car for you. Just because you have a wagon doesn't mean it is better it is just your style and fits your needs. I got the baja and that allows me to go out and have fun where ever I go. Thats just for me.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNTA1NTgwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Peloquin

08-03-2004, 04:28 PM

That's an awesome Photo.

BajaNut

08-03-2004, 09:26 PM

Ausome photo

jimtesla

08-03-2004, 10:41 PM

Whats cool is the other baja waiting for it get through.....
I did not see it the first time I looked........
Any other real world pictures of Baja's...?

ajabobrut

08-04-2004, 12:12 AM

I wish i was going after the yellow one.

ajabobrut

08-04-2004, 12:23 AM

Peloquin

08-04-2004, 11:10 AM

I have real world photos of my Baja, but no action shots as I can't drive and take pictures at the same time.

Peloquin

08-04-2004, 11:13 AM

I wish i was going after the yellow one.

I wish I was right behind you... heheh, we could have a Baja offroad parade!

:banana:

ajabobrut

08-04-2004, 11:09 PM

I wish I was right behind you... heheh, we could have a Baja offroad parade!

:banana:

Hey that would be cool,in my teenage yrs.i had a Baja Bug and other friends had them to,and some beetles.We would all get together and ride all in line.We thought it was neat when a pack of 8 bugs turning through an intersection at night.I'd like to do that with today's Baja,you would get there attention after 3rd or 4th went by.

Peloquin

08-05-2004, 11:24 AM

I think 2 draws quite a bit of attention, which is why I wish I could find at least one other where I live.

ajabobrut

08-05-2004, 07:31 PM

There's a few in my area,but i can't seem to get a hold of them.I don't think they read or know about this site. :furious:

gstien

08-15-2004, 04:55 PM

I find the bed useful for hauling dirt, fertilizer, flowers, and other items that DON'T need to be in a car's trunk. If you do stuff in the yard, the Baja is great. It's not a truck, and it's not a car, it's both. That's what it's intended to be. No, it's not a hotrod and it won't be unless you add a turbo and crank up the boost. Camping, yardwork, (other outdoor activities), with the assurance of AWD, good gas mileage, and a comfortable ride....that's a Baja. Try putting dirt, sod, or sand in your outback wagon. I bet that will add to the resale value, IF you can get it out!

fdg008

08-31-2004, 04:11 PM

I just bought a 2004 Turbo...

The dealer sold it to me below invoice into his holdback to unload it.

He said he gets few inquiries and he was suprised to see 2005s in production at all.

It is sort of sad, I think the Baja is a great vehicle. Especially with the Turbo engine and the very good pricing available to those buyers who are interested...

ajabobrut

08-31-2004, 07:33 PM

I'm hoping to get my 3rd Baja next summer with the 6cyl,the 250 HP one. Keep the Baja Alive.:banana:

BajaNut

08-31-2004, 07:38 PM

Lets hope that they put the 6cyl in the baja for 06, unless you have heard something semi offical.

gentzleon

08-31-2004, 10:28 PM

bajas will be discontinuedon 06 so u will probably see the same plant next year the only difference might just be ecu mapping fro little more power.also possibly diff colors.

ajabobrut

08-31-2004, 11:57 PM

Lets hope that they put the 6cyl in the baja for 06, unless you have heard something semi offical.

Nope, just hoping that it will happen.

ajabobrut

09-01-2004, 12:00 AM

bajas will be discontinuedon 06 so u will probably see the same plant next year the only difference might just be ecu mapping fro little more power.also possibly diff colors.

Where did you hear that 06 is the last year?

BajaNut

09-01-2004, 02:08 AM

gentzleon

09-01-2004, 02:20 AM

yup they are supposed to be limited edition vehicles, only about 28000 manufactured a year maybe less.no more baja means they will retain good value.

rsholland

09-01-2004, 08:39 AM

I heard it from the master tech at my sbuie dealer when he went in for training on the new 05 legacy's. They said that no more baja after 06 at the latest.

Ben

P.S. - I must might have to traid mine in for a H6 model if it will exhist.

Well, '06 will be the last year for the Baja on its current platform. As to beyond '06, nothing officially has been announced by SOA or FHI. I'm hoping it will survive, but will be built off the larger Halifax/Tribeca platform.

Bob

BajaNut

09-01-2004, 12:43 PM

refresh my memory, what is the halifax/tribeca platform?

fdg008

09-01-2004, 01:42 PM

ajabobrut

09-01-2004, 07:58 PM

The Halifax/Tribeca is the 7 passenger cross-over SUV...

Check out: http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=178&sid=178&article=7368

Reportedly a RX330 sort of vehicle in the $35K+ range...

The rumor I heard was the Baja would stick around at least until this SUV is rolled out in 2006...

I thought it was rolling out in the summer/fall of 05 as an 06.If that is true,then the Baja has only 1 more round before the axe strikes.Subaru will be singing the blues when they can it,since Honda,Mitsubshi,and maybe some others are building there version of the Baja.They will take over where the Baja died,i think they should give it more time and ADVERTISE it this time and see what happens.