I was wondering if any of you have a "do it yourself" kit, and have gotten 300+ WHP? What kinda mods did this need, and what kind of Engine Management are you useing?
I have 260 whp, but I would like to get at least 300 -320 whp on an 02 wrx 91-93 octane

thanks
-freddie

no, i dont have 300 whp...
free bump!:)

My build is not 300WHP.



SLR-

btw Freddie, what do you remember about your friends stage 3? Do you know what kind of turbo, and how much whp he made? I'd ask highwaydrifter but he seems busy as of late, and is having a specific car problem:(

I don't remember....
But I do know when the NEW stage 3 comes...and it will come.....WILL DESTROY THE OLD STAGE 3!!!!

BE AFRAID, VERY AFRAID !! :D

-freddie


http://www.vishnutuning.com/stagethree.htm

Originally posted by 1WRX2NV
I don't remember....
But I do know when the NEW stage 3 comes...and it will come.....WILL DESTROY THE OLD STAGE 3!!!!

BE AFRAID, VERY AFRAID !! :D

-freddie


http://www.vishnutuning.com/stagethree.htm

ouch...im kinda scared:(


do you think a stage 3 can kick a lightly modded STI's @$$?

Originally posted by dorifto88


ouch...im kinda scared:(


do you think a stage 3 can kick a lightly modded STI's @$$?

A stage 1 STi = Stage 3 wrx...hahahahahaha
I think an STi stock will beat me NOW or be VERY close....not 100% sure...Either way Sti is DADDY. Wait til the tuners get a hold of it!!!!!:eek: :eek: :)

-freddie

I do (not that it's special compared to some of the other cars running around). The only part I didn't install was the FMIC (no plasma cutter), and TurboXS did the UTEC tuning. Everything else was my wrenching.

My dyno sheet... (http://eurotechie.com/images/Places%20and%20Things/Things/Car%20Stuff/TXS%20TQ%20HP%20lq.jpg)

Originally posted by 2OHOH2WRX
I do (not that it's special compared to some of the other cars running around). The only part I didn't install was the FMIC (no plasma cutter), and TurboXS did the UTEC tuning. Everything else was my wrenching.

My dyno sheet... (http://eurotechie.com/images/Places%20and%20Things/Things/Car%20Stuff/TXS%20TQ%20HP%20lq.jpg)

I guess my question is one that has been debated before....it all comes down to the Dyno used. If I use other Dynos my car will read 300+WHP.

-freddie

If you'll notice, that says "Flywheel power"graph. That is not whp. I have 265@wheels, which is a hell of a lot more than 300 at the flywheel. Just keep that in mind! the stock subaru boasts 227@flywheel, and most dyno at 168 on average. That is a 26% drivetrain loss. If you assumed that 26% loss would remain throughout the power range (which it doesn't), then 265whp = 355 flywheel hp.

That number is not accurate, because the 26% will actually decrease as hp goes up. it might be more like 20-22% in that range.

Originally posted by WRXGuyInTulsa
If you'll notice, that says "Flywheel power"graph. That is not whp. I have 265@wheels, which is a hell of a lot more than 300 at the flywheel. Just keep that in mind! the stock subaru boasts 227@flywheel, and most dyno at 168 on average. That is a 26% drivetrain loss. If you assumed that 26% loss would remain throughout the power range (which it doesn't), then 265whp = 355 flywheel hp.

That number is not accurate, because the 26% will actually decrease as hp goes up. it might be more like 20-22% in that range.

:rolleyes: Its obvious you have never had your car dynoed before. Just because it says flywheel at the top of the graph does not mean it is really flywheel horsepower. It is definitely wheel horsepower figures, this issue has been covered several times before when others have posted their dyno graphs. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by 02_Scooby_WRX


:rolleyes: Its obvious you have never had your car dynoed before. Just because it says flywheel at the top of the graph does not mean it is really flywheel horsepower. It is definitely wheel horsepower figures, this issue has been covered several times before when others have posted their dyno graphs. :rolleyes:

actually I had mine done 2 weeks ago... ;)

If that's the case, I've just never seen that sheet before. It says "Flywheel Horsepower"... why would it say that, if it was in fact wheel horsepower?

I got mine dynoed on a Mustang Dyno at FIS. Supposedly, it's a no BS dyno, so I'm not sure how reliable others are...

I'm running the GODSPEED STAGE 3 + YOSHIO TUNING (for power)

I'm pushing 18 to 22 lbs of boost depending on how stupid I feel that day....

Power pimps tell me I'm close to 350 to the wheels at 20psi on 92 octane!

PE 1818 turbo
Blitz FMIC - Blitz SUS intake
reflashed Yoshio ECU tuning
No cats - godspeed down pipe - Blitz NurSpec R
Maxim Works headers w/up-pipe
PE fuel pump - STi injectors
Blitz 8 range plugs
Vishnu Pulley
Blitz SBC id
Other mods i can't remember right now...

Flames

Originally posted by 02_Scooby_WRX


:rolleyes: Its obvious you have never had your car dynoed before. Just because it says flywheel at the top of the graph does not mean it is really flywheel horsepower. It is definitely wheel horsepower figures, this issue has been covered several times before when others have posted their dyno graphs. :rolleyes:

Thanks 02 ;)

Yep, it's wheel. Not sure why fly is listed on the sheet. NEways...

Tulsa - was it an AWD dyno, or did they convert your car to FWD to dyno it?

It's WHP. For some reason the TXS dyno sheets print with flywheel hp on them, but their dyno measures WHP only. The only way to measure flywheel hp would be to remove the motor from the car.

Originally posted by NotoriousWRX
It's WHP. For some reason the TXS dyno sheets print with flywheel hp on them, but their dyno measures WHP only. The only way to measure flywheel hp would be to remove the motor from the car.

I was dynoed on a Mustang Dyno at FIS. It's an AWD dyno. I'm aware that you can't measure flywheel HP with it in the car, but the computer can make a smart "guesstimate" calculation that comes close...

that means my leg wagon makes 236 hp @ the wheels

Originally posted by NotoriousWRX
It's WHP. For some reason the TXS dyno sheets print with flywheel hp on them, but their dyno measures WHP only. The only way to measure flywheel hp would be to remove the motor from the car.

When I saw 'Flywheel Horsepower', I just assumed that the dyno used some type of correction factor to determine what the flywheel horsepower should be and printed that out. Yes, you would figure that wheel horsepower/torque is more important because it's the 'real hp/torque' that's being used but still.

This is my first time noticing the 'flywheel horsepower' being printed but it is supposed to be wheel horsepower. Probably the first time some others have seen it as well. At least the problem was resolved. Ok...continue on. :D

It seems I'm not the only person that's quote "never had his car dynoed before:rolleyes: "... some people just assume that everybody has seen something that they have once or twice...

Thanks for defending my point Kevin... :D

Wouldn't Vishnu's stage three snap the WRX's stock tranny on the first clutch drop?

I mean 500HP on a stock tranny...wow.

Don't get me wrong, I'm loving it and need to buy it immediately, but was wondering about that Tranny.

I live only 30 minutes away from Vishnu so I'm lucky. :)

No, he uses the....I forget what it is EXACTLY called..."delay" so when you drop it....it gives a couple thenths...so not ALL that torqe is ripping through it.
My friend had it (VS 3) and would launch at 7,000 rpm's....ran 11's on it too!!! and DAILY DRIVER!!!

-freddie

Originally posted by SuicidalLabRat
My build is not 300WHP.



SLR-

:lol:

I guess over doesn`t count.

Bill

Nino,
What did I tell you about my horsepower? I forgot man..... ;)

The dynapack says Fly Wheel for whatever reason. All of them print that on the top of the graphs. The important thing to look at on the dynapack plots is the TCF value because that is a multiplier. Most places have it set at 1 including TXS so what you see is what you get, but I have seen other graphs where it is set to 1.1 or 1.2.

Also, comparing dyno results between two different dynos doesn't really work. Different dynos give different results, everyone should know that. Most of the guys in Australia are amazed at the power we get out of the car because the dynos they use there (dyno dynamics I believe) read much lower. A stock WRX dynos at like 120whp on that dyno. I'm not sure anyone over here other than easy street would make 300whp on one of those dynos...

I'm pretty close

My Dyno Chart (http://home1.gte.net/bcfox/dyno2.jpg)

VF30
Blitz FMIC
Vishnu Uppipe
Godspeed Downpipe
HKS Cat-back
NGK Plugs
Blitz SBC-iD at 17psi on 93 octane
Unichip
Stock airbox w/k&n filter

hmmmm... i need more power... i got a new turbo on the way me thinks.... but for now.. 283.5 isnt bad from a vf23...

vf23 --> 18.4 PSI
gutted stock uppipe
MRT Downpipe
HKS catback
UTEC
STi injectors
walbro fuel pump
STi intercooler


-mike

I'm running the GODSPEED STAGE 3 + YOSHIO TUNING (for power)

I'm pushing 18 to 22 lbs of boost depending on how stupid I feel that day....

Power pimps tell me I'm close to 350 to the wheels at 20psi on 92 octane!

PE 1818 turbo
Blitz FMIC - Blitz SUS intake
reflashed Yoshio ECU tuning
No cats - godspeed down pipe - Blitz NurSpec R
Maxim Works headers w/up-pipe
PE fuel pump - STi injectors
Blitz 8 range plugs
Vishnu Pulley
Blitz SBC id
Other mods i can't remember right now...

Flames



Do you have a dyno sheet? I'd love to see the curve with those mods!:eek: That Maxim Works header is beautiful!
-Leland

I'm close.

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mod's (www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=155456#post155456) & pic's & sound (www.lafreak.com/html/virpacalis.html)

Originally posted by wlelandj


Do you have a dyno sheet? I'd love to see the curve with those mods!:eek: That Maxim Works header is beautiful!
-Leland

Yeah, I'd love to see the dyno sheet of the first PE1818 to EVER put 350WHP down :rolleyes:

Ryan
"The formula just isn't as simple as exhaust gives me 20HP + Turbo gives me 50hp + xxx = 350hp ....."

I wish I had 300whp :(

299 is all I could muster

but now that I have more power will my trap speeds go up? We'll see, everyone said I needed 300+to get the speeds I had before.

*off topic* Ryan...how much for the WRX?

Originally posted by Twelvz
I wish I had 300whp :(

299 is all I could muster

but now that I have more power will my trap speeds go up? We'll see, everyone said I needed 300+to get the speeds I had before.

*off topic* Ryan...how much for the WRX?

Rob,
Reserve is $26K, buy it now price is $27K....one day to go!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2400314375

Ryan

Freddie you need more power???:eek: Your car is scary! Thanks for the ride at that High School a while ago, it was great. You have an addiction my friend :D

Rich