in two years I plain on turboing my car.. as of right now i will do intake (making ram air). exhuast header and high flow cat..

should i get a cam.. if so should I do a n/a cam or turbo cam.. I just do not wanna buy a cam i will be replacing in two years..

thanx

Hate to say it but thats a dumb question, if you are 100% sure you are going to turbo your car in the future and dont want to replace your cam more than once, then get the turbo cam.

Hate to say it but thats a dumb question, if you are 100% sure you are going to turbo your car in the future and dont want to replace your cam more than once, then get the turbo cam.

but will i notice anything with a turbo cam on a n/a car or will i loose anything??

You should not "lose" anything by using turbo cams in your NA car HOWEVER you won't feel hardly any gains. If you want to feel gains on your NA car, your best bet is to get the mild NA cams and then use them later under boost. This has been my approach.

-Jon

I guess what flent is asking, if there is going to be any loss when installing a turbo cam on N/A car. Question is, will the engine run properly? Is there a chance to ruining the engine, or putting unnecesarry strain on it. I think its the matter of being safe than sorry. I don't think it's a matter of saving money.

Flent,
I believe that Trey's street cams will work well with a lower pressure turbo setup, I think I saw someone say up to 10 psi but I'm not sure. His turbo cams are specifically designed for higher psi setups. Do a search, I think theres more info out there. Also try asking Trey himself, he's very helpfull.
-Shawn

thanx cuz for all your help
ill probably add a n/a cam to my list of mods now.. i ust did not wanna waste money on a set of cams i would be cangeing when i did a turbo.. cuz god knows i will not be running much boost from the start...

once again thanx

I have talked to trey and the n/a cams are absolutely "fine with a turbo", not so much the aggressive street cams, the mild ones. Im not sure if im going to turbo, but i am going to lachute subaru to have my mild cams installed next week. If I turbo, then i dont have a problem.
Dan

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I believe that Trey's street cams will work well with a lower pressure turbo setup, I think I saw someone say up to 10 psi but I'm not sure.

That was Trey himself. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/wink.gif

Get the "Street" cams. They're a lot of fun all by themselves (I can tell you now) and will supposedly work great with a mild turbo (I'll tell you in two weeks).

What about the cobb tuning cams? I am planning on supercharging my car and only want to change cams 1 time. How would they work. And what kind of a difference do you feel with just straight cams

The turbo cams have less overlap, right? (overlap bad for turbo, right?) I imagine you wouldnt do anything horrible by running them. You'd just not see the same increase as the NA cams. FWIW the mild cams +5-7 turbo would be something to see.... wonderwhat sort of gain they give a 5psi turbo when they give a na car +14hp peak...

ALERT: i just talked to Trey, well via email, he said it would be fine to put turbo cams in a N/A setup, i'm doing this becuase i'm gonna run NA for a while then upgrade to the turbo, but he said you will notice pretty much the same gain...
-matt-

Does that mean that we will still have 10-14 hp gain at the wheels? How much gain will we see with a turbo?

thanx alot for all the feedback on this subject.. it has helped me out alot..

once again thanx

hey Trey..would you be able to do a Cam for a high output ej22? (first i plan on getting it running http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/wink.gif then the FUN begins http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif ) anyhow, a garret t3 turbo will be going in most likely as soon as whatever i end up with gets running and then as soon as that is tuned and i have basic maps, then switch over to the T4 turbo (not a hybrid t3/t4, a real t4-50series http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif ) anyhow, could the ej25 race cam for the turbo be adapted, or better yet, the mild street cam be adapted for that oh year or two while i accumalte the rest of the goodies, like the bigger downpipe, new cylinder heads, new pistons, rods, etc. etc http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif

just a question

Thanks in advance http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif

To be completely honest, the street cams and the "turbo" cams are nearly identical. We just had someone dyno their NA car with the mild turbo cams, and their results were nearly identical to the gains we got with the NA Street cams.

Because of those result, what will most likely happen in the future is that the Mild Street cams and the Mild Turbo cams will become one in the same.

For those using our street or mild turbo cams with turbo cars, they work to improve your torque band, and lets you carry your power to redline, unlike the stock cams. With stock valvesprings, I recommend no more than 10psi. However, if you upgrade to our valvespring/retainer kit, those cams should work very well for higher boost levels.

For those that want cams specific for the street driven NA monsters, we now have a more specific profile for those cars, which we will not recommend for turbo cars. These just completed 3 months of running in a daily driven, stock ECU car with no problems or check engine lights so we feel confident about making them available to everyone. We'll do out best to get some solid dyno numbers in the near future.

We are also in the beginning stages of two race-only cams. One for NA use, and the other for high boost turbo applications. These cams require our new valvespring/Titanium Retainer kit and feature more aggressive profiles and very high lift. We just completed the initial test grind for the turbo cams, and will be testing them in our new turbo-specific cylinder heads. I'd say these are only about 2-3 months away. The NA cams are still just a computer model so we're probably still 3-6 months away on those.

Hope that helps,
Trey
Cobb Tuning www.cobbtuning.com (http://www.cobbtuning.com)

man, i love you Trey!!

Could someone PM me with a place where I can get a N/A cam for a good price? PLEASE!!

Try www.cobbtuning.com (http://www.cobbtuning.com) http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif