hey i was just wondering if any body knows the curb weight of the new sti I have been trying to find out but had no luck finding the info on the web I would think it can be much heavier if any than the 2003 wrx

It hasn't been released yet.

here is your answer from global subaru...http://www.subaru-global.com/lineup/impreza/index.html


it is mentioned there that the curb weight in kg is 1450 x 2.2=3190 lbs.

I just noticed it is the 2.0l so you can probably assume that the 2.5 might be heavier. Just my .02c
Hope this helps

No, that isn't correct. That data sheet does not apply to the car we're getting. SOA has not released it yet. This has been discussed in a number of threads, but reasonable curb weight estimates are from 3000lbs up to 3200 lbs or so.

TRS

Japanese's weight is not accurate. They take the jack, spare, no fluids and etc.. sort of like motorcycles number fudging wise.

For example an evo VII
GSR 1400KG convert......3086LBS
RS 1320KG Convert......2910LBS

The 2L sti is 104 lbs heavier than the JDM evo. I figure the JDM GSR (ACD/AYC=U.S safty addition of bumper wt) and our STi is 2.5L so.....

I'm saying the U.S. STI weighs ~3375-3400lbs
to be realistic.

I didn't take account of the weight of DCCD and I have no idea if that adds weight. I know the AYC for the evo is heavy.

gtr-
Hehe. Looks like you're hoping it will weight 3400lbs!!! (I can see why). As I said before, this is all covered in other threads. There is no significant "safety" conversion for the STi as there was for the EVO.

TRS

It'll weigh over 3300lbs. If it was lighter than the Evo they would've announced it already. Do you REALLY think they don't know what it weighs yet? Same with price. They are trying to keep the hype up over the pure fact it has more hp than the Evo and the Dccd. I think the 2 cars will be close in performance because the Sti will weigh more and the Evo has better gearing. Just my opinion. I guess we'll see in a few months :D

No, they don't know what it will weigh yet. Really. They are still working on that. And it won't weigh 3400lb's, not even close to that.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen

Yea, the EVO's specs were released because it's done and ready for sale. That's why it'll be here in what, a month or so? The STI is still 4 or 5 months out. Why do you think that is, because they're still working on the production version.

No, they don't know what it will weigh yet. Really. They are still working on that.
Please explain how they don't know. Afterall, there are US spec cars being shown at all the shows. They aren't J-spec cars. They have the 2.5l, dccd, US seats, etc. How hard could it be to put it on a scale??:lol:
I mean really. I guess its possible they are busting there butts trying to shave a little weight here and there...but I doubt it. We already know it comes minus the stereo, etc. We know hp/torque, that it'll have dccd, etc. Hardly sounds like they are still working on it. :confused:
Why don't you think it'll be over 3300lbs shirokuma?

You saw hand-built custom cars at the auto-show.

Yes, the final, production car will be like them - but they haven't finished it. And yes, they are very busy shaving off weight. And, for certain reasons, 3300lbs would be too heavy for some certain goals to be met, thus they are making sure it will not be that heavy.

Last, and not least, it is not based on the standard STi body shell. It's based on the Spec C bodyshell with further tweaking.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen

shirokuma,

The JDM WRX weighs 1340kg Agreed?
The JDM 2L STi weighs 1450KG Agreed?

Difference in wt between sti and wrx is 110KG for the two cars right?
1kg=2.20462262185
110KG=242.508LBS

US WRX weights
3085 lbs

I feel Adding the wt difference between JDM STI and JDM WRX to the U.S. WRX is Fair???

3085lbs + 242.046lbs = 3327.5lbs

So it's 3327.5lbs is my guess if we do not have DCCD and 2.5L but we do so how in the world would you think it's under 3300lbs? Do you really believe the amount of weight saved from the rear glass and the stereo will be more than the 2.5L and DCCD?

We have A/C and it's has spec c glass to account for that big wing, J/K.

My guess is that they are trying to get it to just under 3300lbs. We'll see.
Shirokuma, do you think it'll be lighter than the US Evo?

For those of you who think it'll weigh 3300, 3400lbs, etc. You are forgetting that there is already a light-weight STi, the spec C (with all the goodies we will get). The weight of the MY02/03 US WRX seems irrelevant--it is history. Look at it like this.

The current (new front-end design) JDM STi curb weight is 1440 kg (3168lbs). That would seem to be the upper limit to what our car will weigh. The STi RA Spec C (with 17" wheels) weighs 1350kg (2970lbs). That would seem to be a good low end estimate, as the major thing we have that it doesn't is AC/(heat?). The specs on the US STi more closely resemble a Spec C than a STi. __Closer to a spec c than an STi__ if you doubt it, list them all out and summarize the differences.

Sure, the spec c removes a bunch of small things and that adds up, but it also has what looks to be a heavier twin-scroll manifold and downpipe. The composite intake manifold, 2.5L displacement (maybe a wash, probably not significant either direction), and DBW of the US STi all reduce weight though, and counter that somewhat. The spec c (17" rims) has a spoiler, just not the big one. The spec c also doesn't get a front strut bar (neither do we, but the JDM STi does...).

The more I look at it, I think we are getting a slightly more civilized version of the spec c...

The EVO is still potent, and Subaru needs to get the weight and price right yet. They've nailed it so far, my bet is that they are going to put two more nails in the coffin yet.

TRS

ps- From what Jon (in CT) said about the gas guzzler tax and keeping weight low (to help mileage) makes a lot of sense as to why the weight and MSRP aren't known yet. If the MPG is too low (below 22.5 I think) then we get a $1000 gas guzzler tax... Keeping the weight down means a lot to Subaru now. And if shirokuma is right about the spec c shell being used for our STi...:)

Originally posted by shirokuma
Last, and not least, it is not based on the standard STi body shell. It's based on the Spec C bodyshell with further tweaking.

The Spec C weighs 90kg less than the standard STi with the 17" tyre and brembo brakes, 6-speed, and DCCD-A.

In other words, it weighs 22lbs more than a standard JDM WRX. So take this a little farther, add in the fact that STi is trying to lighten it further than that, and you get a USDM STi that could weigh less than the USDM WRX. And, yes, that is their goal, and no, they are not finished yet, and certainly were not finished with the production car by the time of the auto shows.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen

Originally posted by gtr
The JDM WRX weighs 1340kg Agreed?
The JDM 2L STi weighs 1450KG Agreed?

The spec C weighs 1350kg with the 17" wheel/brake/DCCD-A package.
It weighs 1320kg without the (relatively) heavy 17" wheel package and brembos.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen

Originally posted by Broeli
My guess is that they are trying to get it to just under 3300lbs. We'll see.
Shirokuma, do you think it'll be lighter than the US Evo?

Yes.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen

I really like what I am hearing from Paul Hansen's rumour mill - spec C weight. I wonder what other trickeries in addition to the spec C shell, composite manifold, drive-by-wire STI will have up their sleeves to achieve this weight goal. This cannot be easy to do. I can't wait to see how far they are gonna get with this.:)

The more I think about it, Subaru really has to bring a product that will justify the 4k or so higher price tag than the Evo. Just like the Evo has justified its 4k or so price increase over the regular Wrx. We are really going to have 3 different levels of cars with 3 levels of price tags. Although, the Evo and Sti will probably be close to each other when it comes to handling.

And for those of you thinking "if they are really serious about weight, why don't we get the lighter spec c with 16" wheels" ...cause it looks like this:

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/sedan/08/imgs/photo_02d.jpg

:lol:

And all the talk about having no pass-through in the rear seat. Also just like the spec c.

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/sedan/08/08_02.html


TRS