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(copied from IWOC)
at the moment there aren't a huge range of wheels which will fit.

Prodrive do a couple of wheels in an 18 inch size. One is a OZ 10 spoke WRC/P1 style wheel, which is available in a matt gold colour, or silver.

There is also a 7 spoke alloy called the PFF7, which is a lightweight wheel using the latest flowforming technology. This is available in gold, silver or bright flitter (actually like a pweter/metallic anthracite colour).

Speedline also sell the Turini model in an 18 inch wheel which will fit. THis again uses the flowforming technology to make the wheels both lightweight and strong.

The OZ Superlegarra wheels will fit in the 19 inch size, but unfortunately not the 18 inch size.

Other than the standard 17 inch rims which come with the car, I'm not aware of any other 17 inch rims which will clear the STi Brembo calipers without using spacers (which I wouldn't recommend).

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(copied from IWOC)

I spoke with OZ and Speedline recently, they are aware of the STI calipers issue and the modified 17 Superleggera (OZ) and Corse (Speedline) in gold will be released shortly, especially for the STI7-8. They should be available in europe until the end of first quarter, for the same price as the 17s for the WRX.

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Man... what kind of rims we have to use for winter tire ? 18'' ???

The JDM STi 17" rims would be a good choice.

That's not very cheap for a set of rusty wheels...

The Volk CE28N should fit over the Brembos fine since they're spec'd on the s202 which has the same brakes if I'm not mistaken.

damn, if the stock 17s are the winter wheels, then summer wheels + tires package (running 18s) will be around $2k+. Oh wow...

Originally posted by Glenn Wallace
The JDM STi 17" rims would be a good choice.

What year(s)/version of JDM STi 17" rims are we talking about. Im not sure when they started putting brembos on those cars.

thanks Glenn - STi information guru

mitch

These fit - in 17"x 7.5" ET48: WedSports RS-5SS-TSSCs - strong, light and pretty reasonably priced, at least over here.
http://www.weds.co.jp/products/wedssport/rs-5ss_tssc/img/wheel_gold.jpg
http://www.weds.co.jp/products/wedssport/rs-5ss_tssc/img/wheel_gunmeta.jpg
http://www.weds.co.jp/products/wedssport/rs-5ss_tssc/img/wheel_white.jpg

As do these in 17x8 ET44: Volk CE28N - another strong, light weight wheel (as seen on the S202). Cheap? - er, no...
http://rayswheels.co.jp/datas/VOLK/10_CE28N/21.JPG

Volk has a load of other wheels that fit too... but lots of small print suggesting that some will and some won't among the same range - quite confusing.

Then there are these: Tommy Kaira rims...
http://www.tommykaira.com/m20b/photo/photo03.jpg

edit to fix a link:rolleyes:

since some 17s fit, it seems as though the overall diameter isnt the issue, its the wheel spokes clearing the caliper that is the problem.
A good place to start would be the wheels confirmed to clear the stoptechs. I am willing to bet most of those will clear the STi brembos as well

What year(s)/version of JDM STi 17" rims are we talking about. Im not sure when they started putting brembos on those cars.

MY01/02 in Japan, I think (bug eye).

thanks Glenn - STi information guru

Nah I just copy stuff that I read.

The P1s don't clear?

Kevin

Originally posted by anotherB4
These fit - in 17"x 7.5" ET48: WedSports RS-5SS-TSSCs - strong, light and pretty reasonably priced, at least over here.


any idea if the cd tracers or any of the hollow 5-spoke enkei-made wheels clear the gold calipers?

I am hoping to use my 17 inch UK rims for winter. They are supposed to fit over stoptechs, so here's hoping they will fit. I'll let you know as soon as my STi gets here...:)

I believe they used gold versions of the silver UK rims on the old STi v7 wagons (didn't v7 get the Brembos?), so I think they'll work.

TRS

The P1s don't clear?

The 18's do --- not sure about the 17's.

Glenn

i was curious about this as well. what happens if you want to hit the trails? 17 is a bit large and they'd be getting dinged pretty bad. or am i the only one that would be sliding around in the dirt with one?

I've looked at this site:

reay engineering wheels (http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/)

And a good portion of the wheels have specific notation of which wheels and offsets will fit over which size calipers. STi specific calipers in fact, as well as GTR, Supra, etc.

The most interesting thing I've seen was a setup for autocross recommending 17x9.5 in the front and 17x8.5 in the back but with a 255/40/17 on both rims, this for the STi GD.

Big Meats!

BTW, that last was from the Racing Hart cp-035 fitment page.

Originally posted by zoke
I've looked at this site:

reay engineering wheels (http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/)

And a good portion of the wheels have specific notation of which wheels and offsets will fit over which size calipers. STi specific calipers in fact, as well as GTR, Supra, etc.

The most interesting thing I've seen was a setup for autocross recommending 17x9.5 in the front and 17x8.5 in the back but with a 255/40/17 on both rims, this for the STi GD.

Big Meats!

BTW, that last was from the Racing Hart cp-035 fitment page.

that would be along the lines of an scc article on so and so's lancer in japan. the smaller rim size in the rear bulges the tire more and creates a more predictable breakaway, helping to control tail out maneuvering. also helpful in the tight confines of an autox course.

Originally posted by ToddStratton
I am hoping to use my 17 inch UK rims for winter. They are supposed to fit over stoptechs, so here's hoping they will fit. I'll let you know as soon as my STi gets here...:)

I believe they used gold versions of the silver UK rims on the old STi v7 wagons (didn't v7 get the Brembos?), so I think they'll work.

TRS

My two favorate Impreza wheels are both factory items...

#1 UK 17x7 5 split-spoke, which I have a set of in silver
#2 Overseas gold 17" 5 spoke STi 7 rims.

BTW, please do confirm whether your UK's fit. My set is for sale, and they'd be perfect for some STi owner out there, since my car is now retired.

I have some great pics of my car with the UK's, I should post them online.:D

I believe they used gold versions of the silver UK rims on the old STi v7 wagons (didn't v7 get the Brembos?), so I think they'll work.

No, the gold JDM STi OEM 17" wheels are different to the gold JDM WRX OEM 17" wheels.

Glenn

To add to Glenn's comment:

The UK WRX 17" wheel (which was originally the Legacy B4 and GT-B wheel, but superseded a while back), and the JDM STi Wagon (RIP ;) ) 17"s are one and the same, just painted gold (and the STi wagon missed out on the Brembos, among other things). These wheels most certainly do NOT clear the Brembos.

The UK STi 17" and the JDM STi 17" (in fact that is the std. STi wheel around the world) are one and the same.

The 9 spoke BBS 17"s are part of the optional pack for the STi here that includes RE070 gumballs - and it looks as though the US is going to see that combination too. They are not identical to the bugeye STi RA Spec C wheels - some detail work was done to stiffen them at the model update.

Phew, hope that doesn't over inform y'all. :) As I said there are lots of wheels that do clear the Brembos, you just have to be a bit careful :) Keep on enjoying the run up to the release :D

i would really like to keep my volks, and then sell the bbs wheels, so would anyone know if volk le-37k's fit, 17x7.5 48+ ? if so ill keep them and put them on.

From the looks of the Ray's Engineering site, its seems as though the Gram Light 57Pros in 17x8 +40mm(?) offset will clear the STi calipers. Can either of my 2 favorite B4 owners :D confirm or deny this? I can't say I am a huge fan of the 10 spoke Spec C wheels, and I have always loved the Gram Lights, so it would be great if they did fit.
If they don't, JDM STi 5 spoke here I come.

dan

The Spec C BBS forged wheels are absolutely top-drawer. Very stiff and reasonably light.

Does anyone know if ROH Azzuro's in 18's will fit?

Originally posted by patryn
what happens if you want to hit the trails? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just a guess: use an appropriate car?

--scott

Anyone know if these will fit....Prodrive GCO6-D's 18x7.5 48mm offset? With the stock WRX calipers in the front, I have 1.3 inches of clearance from the front face of the caliper to the back side of the spoke! Are the Brembos THAT much bigger? It looks like an awful lot of room!

http://images2.fotki.com/v10/photos/4/47612/192731/WRXForSale001-vi.jpg

I would like to keep these for my STi, but if they won't fit then I need to sell them with this car.

Toby

Sadly the LE37K in your size is not listed as one that clears the bembo caliper.

Dunno much about the Gram Lights, but my buddy test fitted them on his car (STi7 - same brakes) and they fitted fine - he just didn't like the look.

Cheers:)

Originally posted by Ziglabeu
That's not very cheap for a set of rusty wheels...

Dude, if you're getting an STi, your days of cheap are over. Cheap rusty wheels don't belong on an STi.

Other than purchase a set of 17'' lightweight+forged winter rims ( about 2000$US so 3000$ Can ) I will buy a complet set of brake from a WRX or a RS then put 16" or 15" with good ( nokian hakka ) tires.

Here in Québec ( canada ) we have a lot of snow and calcium...It will brake my heart to watch a damn good set of rims getting destroyed by the winter climate....

BTW I will be more tempted to do 2000$ of engine mods before winter rims...

Originally posted by anotherB4
Dunno much about the Gram Lights, but my buddy test fitted them on his car (STi7 - same brakes) and they fitted fine - he just didn't like the look.


Thanks! I have also been leaning towards the Gram Lights and the Rays STi RS-Zero wheels. Now to come up with an additional $2000+...

dan

Apparently these Advan's fit (RG Racing Gymkahna?):

http://www.skifreakz.com/gdb_sst.jpg


-BrianK

How about some big cheap steel wheels that are about 6 inches wide? Maybe give a little more ground clearance and thin wheels for better traction in winter.

how about the volk gram weights 57 pro's they are awsome http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/gramlts57c.htm
in gunmetal or gold expensive though

Originally posted by anotherB4
These fit - in 17"x 7.5" ET48: WedSports RS-5SS-TSSCs - strong, light and pretty reasonably priced, at least over here.
http://www.weds.co.jp/products/wedssport/rs-5ss_tssc/img/wheel_gold.jpg
http://www.weds.co.jp/products/wedssport/rs-5ss_tssc/img/wheel_gunmeta.jpg
http://www.weds.co.jp/products/wedssport/rs-5ss_tssc/img/wheel_white.jpg



anyone know who is the US distributor of weds wheels? i searched online and came up empty. i really like the gunmetal TSSC's

Of course not everyone has to worry about the snow & ice in the winter months, but to those of us who do... What's the solution?
Naturally the summer tires are going to make the car stick to the roads, but what's available from SOA for those of us that have weather issues during the winter months? If we will be needing to entirely change the wheels and have all season or snow tires installed the cost of the car just increased about $3,000.
Perhaps a cheaper solution would be to buy a car cover and a POS to drive during the winter months. I don't know... Anyone have any more ideas? :(

Buy 4 full size spares. Rallispec sells em, about $120 apeiece. Then you could put some 4 inch wide tires, just like the WRC cars...:rolleyes: j/k

One of tHe reasons I want an AWD car is specifically for those winter months-- I figure for a minimum I am on winter tires for 4 months, sometimes longer (up here tHere was enough snow to shovel even this morning.)

After using dedicated winter tires for many years now, I would not go back to all seasons. I consider that any car I can drive in tHe winter will need that extra set of tires, and in this case it looks like it will definately need some expensive rims to clear tHe brakes. I think a package would be reasonable at about $2000 CAD, so maybe not as bad as $3K.

StealthWagon-- I like your idea, actually :-) I really hope Subaru offers a package with some steel rims that will work, though. I think an ideal winter tire size would be 205-50/17: same diameter as stock; narrow enough to cut through snow and put more pressure on ice; and about tHe shortest profile that would not get killed on our pothole-riddled winter streets. If Subaru can make rims for 135 tires that clear those calipers, surely tHey can make some for 205's...

Eric

Damn, the BBS Spec C wheels are selling for $800 each.

TireRack.com lists 18 viable options in teh 17 x 7" size category.
My preferences are teh following;
* Sport Edition 'Fox 2 Sport' (http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/DisplayWheel.jsp?wheelMake=Sport+Edition&wheelModel=Fox+2+Sport&wheelFinish=Light+Grey+Painted)
17x7" / Light Grey Painted / $139 each
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/sportedition/swap/se_fox_2_grey_ci3_l.jpg

* ASA 'JS1' (http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/DisplayWheel.jsp?wheelMake=ASA&wheelModel=JS1&wheelFinish=Silver+w%2FMachined+Lip)
17x7 / Silver with Machined Lip / $119 each
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/asa/swap/asa_js1_sml_ci3_l.jpg

Fit eitehr of teh above to teh an excellent winter tire such as teh Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 with UNI-T (http://www.bridgestonetire.com/dpp/sizespecs.asp?passproductid=189) in 215/55 R-17 then you're good to go and styling without going broke!

- Janq

I doubt that either of the above wheels will fit on the STi. The fact is at this point, winter wheels will cost a pretty penny. I am sure Prodrive and others are in the processof addressing this issue. No way in heck am I buying 18" wheels for either summer or winter.

dan - lives in pothole paradise

What about some Work Emotion's? They are nice light weight forged wheels. Heres some pics. By the way can anyone guide me towards what offset I may need. TIA

http://www.worksuperwheels.com/images/emotion/2.jpg

http://www.worksuperwheels.com/images/emotion/1.jpg

and you can get them in the colors pitured above plus, bronze, gunmetallic and black.

:)

Here is a link to Works website as well: linky linky (http://www.worksuperwheels.com/)

what do you guys think?

the type of wheel while important is not nearly as critical as the offset.

for example, I don't believe the RG 17x7.5 +48 or whatever fit but the 8.5's +44 or +43 or whatever they are I'm sure will.

Do volk LE37T's fit in 17x7.5? I hope so, i'm ordering some in 2 weeks :o

The 4 donut-spares/rally tires is sounding better all the time :lol:

Originally posted by sanctified
Do volk LE37T's fit in 17x7.5? I hope so, i'm ordering some in 2 weeks :o

What offset do you plan on ordering? Size will be fine but you need to determine which offset will allow the spokes to clear the calipers.

Originally posted by Corn-Picker
The 4 donut-spares/rally tires is sounding better all the time :lol:

Yeah, that was my original intention but I couldn't find any performance or winter tires that would fit the space saver rim.
Its an odd size that no one seems to make a fit for.
Too large, too shallow (aspect ratio) and too skinny is the problem.

- Janq

Originally posted by Janq


Yeah, that was my original intention but I couldn't find any performance or winter tires that would fit the space saver rim.
Its an odd size that no one seems to make a fit for.
Too large, too shallow (aspect ratio) and too skinny is the problem.

- Janq

Have you come across any steel wheels that would clear the calipers? I know it would look like crap on a STi, but I'm not paying $2000 for a set of low profile rims I'll be likely to curb at least once during the winter.

Originally posted by Corn-Picker


Have you come across any steel wheels that would clear the calipers? I know it would look like crap on a STi, but I'm not paying $2000 for a set of low profile rims I'll be likely to curb at least once during the winter.

Me neither!

Unfortunately I touched base with several folks I know in the auto dismantling trade and no one is aware of an OEM that will fit and the only aftermarket rims available that might fit are all alloys.
See my post above for a cheap alloy option I found but someone later posted it might not work. We'll have to see...

It seems the only other option is to install regular WRX brakes in the winter to run steel rims.
There is no way I'm going to do that though as the cost in materials and time is at least equal to buying a new set of cheap alloy rims.

- Janq

I am willing to bet there will be no steel wheels that fit over the calipers (front ones anway). The fact remains you will have to purchase an "expensive" set of wheels to clear those calipers (expensive is all relative).

Someone posted it earlier but this will not be a cheap car to maintain - wheels, tires, gas, oil, speeding tickets (naughty!). I am not personally accustomed to buying 91/93 octane gas (Legacy doesn't exactly call for it) or dropping $500+/wheel (Rotas thank you very much), but I'll just have to deal with it.

Rays/STi RS Zeros here I come!

dan

I only have a problem with the wheel cost in principle.

To drop $200-800 on a rim alone that I know will get beat on and end up looking like crap during the winter months sucks.
In my area the roads have potholes that will swallow your entire wheel not to mention if I have to go to DC (Washington) where the roads are hazzardous during all four seasons.

My last Subie that had this wheel problem was my SVX.
I went through three bent rims due to snow/skidding and potholes before deciding to only drive my Legacy AWD in the snow and through the winter (winter dedicated narrow width steel rims & Blizzaks all around).

It looks like I'll be keeping the Legacy around for driving during the winter months or using my wifes Honda Pilot, if I can pry the keys from her hands.

Oh well...the fun I'll have during other 3 season will more than make up for it. :cool:

- Janq

Originally posted by hobbes
Someone posted it earlier but this will not be a cheap car to maintain - wheels, tires, gas, oil, speeding tickets (naughty!). I am not personally accustomed to buying 91/93 octane gas (Legacy doesn't exactly call for it) or dropping $500+/wheel (Rotas thank you very much), but I'll just have to deal with it.


Man, I'm hoping that Rotas will make a 17" rim that fits over the STI brakes. I'm actually still hoping that my 17" battles will fit over the calipers.

Of course I have time on my side as I'm not even considering buying the STi till next spring. I've got a car that I love right now so there's no rush :) Rota will have plenty of time to get some rims ready for winter '04!

-BrianK

I took a pic of the front brake and brought it into a cad program. From there, knoing the front disc is 12.7 inches, I was able to calculate the size of the caliper to be approx 15.356 inches. This isn't exact since the pic I have is at an angle, but it's a start. If your rims have less clear opening on the ID than 15.356 inches, I'd start thinking about something new.

Originally posted by jaypride
I took a pic of the front brake and brought it into a cad program. From there, knoing the front disc is 12.7 inches, I was able to calculate the size of the caliper to be approx 15.356 inches. This isn't exact since the pic I have is at an angle, but it's a start. If your rims have less clear opening on the ID than 15.356 inches, I'd start thinking about something new.

I was under impression that this dimension wasn't the problem. I thought the problem would be the STi calipers would hit the spokes of the rim, not the inner diameter of the rim.

Which dimension will be the problem for most rims fitting on an STi?

-BrianK

Both dimensions are an issue, not all rims will have a large enough ID. The stock BBS rims are using 53mm offset. I haven't seen any others that offer that, this will also affect the spacing of the spokes.

Reviving this thread.

Does anyone know if the 18inch rota battles will fit the sti? There on sale for pretty cheap now.

If not will any of the 18inch rotas in +48 offset fit?

Will 17x7.5 with 48mm offset fit? I am able to get 2 fingers between my stock brake setup and my wheel spokes.

If not, what sizes to wheel spacers come in, and what are the pros and cons to using wheel spacers?

Here is a nice pic for you to look at dimensions!

Enjoy!

http://www.prtc.net/~stryker/Picture%20019.jpg

Check out the info on the sidewall!
Temperature - A
Traction - A
Treadwear - 140 (!)

These tires are not going to last long at all.
You might as well purchase from the dealer an additonal two full sets (8 tires) and throw it in to the deal to finance out the cost.

Anyone know how much these things will cost per tire?

- Janq

I would guess around 250 a tire from the dealer. Which is why I will be throwing on the cheapest 18s I can find followed by the cheapest rubber for daily driving.

The tires are what make a good handling car an exceptional handling car. The RE070s will be a very fun tire but will not last more than the summer. There will have to be a compromise made if you need tires to last more than 5K miles. S-03 are about 165 from TireRack. They would not be as grippy as the RE070s but they will be cheaper and last longer.

I'm wondering if my 2 sets of SSR's from my WRX will fit, they fitted with ease with my AP big brake kit that I won't need any more.

N.

anyone know if the limix lineas will fit?

I think I'll wear out the stock tires by the end of the summer, then it's just a matter of new rubber.

I don't have snow to worry about (it just rains 8 months a year;)), so what's a good all-season/rain tire?

Goodyear 'F1'?

- Janq

Originally posted by afpdl
I would guess around 250 a tire from the dealer. Which is why I will be throwing on the cheapest 18s I can find followed by the cheapest rubber for daily driving.

$395 a pop, only available at the dealer

dont bend a rim either, those are $798 each :)

Originally posted by p-rex


$395 a pop, only available at the dealer

dont bend a rim either, those are $798 each :)

Thats about what I expected them to run.

So...$395 MSRP x 4 = $1,580 per set
Thats a lot of wack!

I think I'll try to negotiate a price reduction against a full set and secure from the dealer a "We Owe" slip for a heavily discounted set of replacement tires and possibly a spare rim (you know one is going to get bent!). Its the least a dealer could do considering the car is sold at MSRP.

- Janq

how will the Limix Linea's fit? (18 inch)
I want to put these on my STi.

I don't know if this is possible. This is pure *winter mode* thinking. Put on some WRX calipers/rotors and use your good old 16"/17" rims...no? I'm just thinking of creative ways to be smart (sometimes makes me look dumb). 1 set wrx rims w/ re92s, 1 set 99 rs rims w/ artic alpins, 1 set bbs rks with falkens, 1 set p1s with p7000s. Guess its sell time

Used wrx calipers are running about $200.

Sorry if folks think this is dumb idea.
Suresh

$395 a pop, only available at the dealer


Part number for tire?

I think I'm going with the 17" JDM STi rims for winter because I have a line on a set. Volk Racing Gramlights 17" will also clear the breaks but they are really expensive to get the same strength as the BBS; almost double the cost of the JDM STi wheels!

...and I sure hope I can get at least two summers out of those stock potenzas at $400.00 a pop! :eek:

Originally posted by WRX7
anyone know if the limix lineas will fit?


Nope! They won't fit. I tested the fit of mine over at Axis Power Racing and they do not fit. Needless to say I was kind of bummed. I love those wheels. I guess I will put them up for sale in the near future. Someone is going to get a deal.....

- Neil

Guys,
Type-R owners had the same issue where the stock RE-010s would wear out after about 15k kms...or two track sessions..., but were disproportionately more expensive then the second most expensive after market tires. So basically the first few months were the only time you ever drove the stock tires, after which you went aftermarket. The RE-010s were the best combo for street and track, but it was not the best track tire, which is where it really matters.

Same situation with the STi.
The good part is that in the 225/45/17 range there are loads of great tire choices at half, and in some cases, a 1/3 of what the 070s will go for from the dealer.

With the money you save you can even get a set of dedicated track tires and a set of high-performance street tires practically doubling the milage over one set, and having the best possible tire choice for the two different conditions. Besides, daily driving on the streets you don't need track level performance, and that equals huge $$$ in your pocket.

So I wouldn't worry.

Originally posted by afpdl
Reviving this thread.

Does anyone know if the 18inch rota battles will fit the sti? There on sale for pretty cheap now.

If not will any of the 18inch rotas in +48 offset fit?

The Battles fit. I just don't know if Ron has 18" or 17". You can PM him at Axis Power Racing:

http://home.earthlink.net/~traintrax/battles.jpg

Battle in 18 or 17 or both ?

Originally posted by Neil Wallerstein


The Battles fit. I just don't know if Ron has 18" or 17". You can PM him at Axis Power Racing:

http://home.earthlink.net/~traintrax/battles.jpg

Sorry I meant sub zeros not battles.

Originally posted by G-shock
Guys,
Type-R owners had the same issue where the stock RE-010s would wear out after about 15k kms...or two track sessions..., but were disproportionately more expensive then the second most expensive after market tires. So basically the first few months were the only time you ever drove the stock tires, after which you went aftermarket. The RE-010s were the best combo for street and track, but it was not the best track tire, which is where it really matters.

Same situation with the STi.
The good part is that in the 225/45/17 range there are loads of great tire choices at half, and in some cases, a 1/3 of what the 070s will go for from the dealer.

With the money you save you can even get a set of dedicated track tires and a set of high-performance street tires practically doubling the milage over one set, and having the best possible tire choice for the two different conditions. Besides, daily driving on the streets you don't need track level performance, and that equals huge $$$ in your pocket.

So I wouldn't worry.

Great minds think alike:)

Set A: stock rims w/RE070s, then Hoosiers
Set B: cheaper street rims (read: more stealth) with T1-S Proxes or even Pilot A/S (no flames please).
Set C: cheap anthracite rims w/Blizzaks

The point of having a car like this for me is to have fun using up tires. I sure don't want to be hoping to make the tires last when I'm having fun .... on track only for me.

how many people willing to pay over MSRP are budgeting the maintenance.

Krzys

I don't think anyone here is willing to pay over msrp.

Originally posted by jaypride
I don't think anyone here is willing to pay over msrp.

I for one would not purchase an STi over MSRP.

- Janq

Another wheel manufacturer to consider is Compomotive. They should be able to make a wheel to fit, won't be the least expensive, but durable and available in a variety of colors. A buddy of mine had a set of TH2s, really indestructable. This guy was pretty tough on them, they never failed. Potholes, gravel shoulder drop offs, salt, snow, not cleaned to often, no problem. Each wheel is made to order and the customer service is excellent. Check the TH3 offsets. http://www.usacomp.com

Well, it seems like at least some people are concerned about spending a lot of jack on winter wheel/tire setups. (To tell you the truth, I'm not sure if I am or not.) So, that being the case, and combined with the fact that the treadwear rating on the RE070's is so low, I was thinking maybe the best option for those who are financially-conscious is to drive the crap out of the stock tires before old man winter rears his ugly head, and then just replace them with a set of Michelin A/S Pilot Sports or something. No need to buy another set of rims.

Thoughts/comments/concerns?

I have 2 sets of SSR's for the STi already from my WRX, I just hope they fit..?.

I think its best and easiest in the long run to have a seperate set of rims with tires for Winter especially with such a performance car like the STi. You want the best grip in the summer and best in the winter otherwise why purchase such as car.

My 2 c's.

N

just replace them with a set of Michelin A/S Pilot Sports or something. No need to buy another set of rims.
Yeah, but what's the speed rating for those french tires?:eek:

Originally posted by Neil Wallerstein



Nope! They won't fit. I tested the fit of mine over at Axis Power Racing and they do not fit. Needless to say I was kind of bummed. I love those wheels. I guess I will put them up for sale in the near future. Someone is going to get a deal.....

- Neil

That sucks :( I love these rims so much maybe I'll just keep my car! :lol: :p

(asking about Prodrive P1's)

Originally posted by Glenn Wallace


The 18's do --- not sure about the 17's.

Glenn

Assuming the STi Type UK's big gold Brembo's are the same as our big gold Brembo's, it looks like 17" Prodrive P1's will fit.:D
The latest UL Top Gear magazine has an EVO VIII vs STi UK article (just like all the US mags!) and they show them on the car. The specs section lists the tire size as 225/45R/17.
I hope it's true- that way I can keep my wheels!

Russ Rainforth

Originally posted by HFTuRbo

Yeah, but what's the speed rating for those french tires?:eek:

Link to PDF specs for the Pilot Sport A/S (http://michelinman.com/assets/pdfs/doc_pilotsportas.pdf)

So what are the ideal wheel sizes and offsets for 18's ?

Thinking of getting some HREs, but I need to provide specs.

::still searching forum for the answers above:::

thanks in advance if you answer my questions

anyone know if 17" or 18" volk gt-n's, advan model 5's, or Volk le37 t's will fit? thanks

Mike

"who's your daddy":disco:

anyone know if 17" or 18" volk gt-n's, advan model 5's, or Volk le37 t's will fit? thanks
No. Just like they don't know the answer to this at i-club either!
Try writting the manufacturer.;)

(asking about Prodrive P1's)



Assuming the STi Type UK's big gold Brembo's are the same as our big gold Brembo's, it looks like 17" Prodrive P1's will fit.:D
The latest UL Top Gear magazine has an EVO VIII vs STi UK article (just like all the US mags!) and they show them on the car. The specs section lists the tire size as 225/45R/17.
I hope it's true- that way I can keep my wheels!

Russ Rainforth [/B]

I too hope the P1 and Tarmacs will fit. Here are some pics I dug up with alittle research showing P1s on a silver 04 STi. I think they come this way from the dealer. I have seen several pics similar to these.

http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?ThreadID=207561&Page=2

18" GC-06D's??? Anyone know if they will fit? From what I can tell they look like they would.

Well, the good thing about having them on the island is I can check. I know for a fact the Sub-Zeros don't fit but the SDT's (Prodrive knock offs) fit and those were 16!!!!
I'm planning on getting them in 18 and in bronze for my white STi that arrives on the first (or second) month of June!

Leo

Originally posted by Leonardo
Well, the good thing about having them on the island is I can check. I know for a fact the Sub-Zeros don't fit but the SDT's (Prodrive knock offs) fit and those were 16!!!!
I'm planning on getting them in 18 and in bronze for my white STi that arrives on the first (or second) month of June!

Leo

What size subzeros dont fit?

Originally posted by revvv_pshhh
anyone know if 17" or 18" volk gt-n's, advan model 5's, or Volk le37 t's will fit? thanks

Mike

"who's your daddy":disco:

First up, noresone asked about the Prodrive 06s, and they fit in 17 x 8 ET43 and 18 x 8 ET43.

revvv, LE37T & gt-n are not listed as having an application for the Brembo equipped models, but they do have some shallow off sets on the size list for the gt-n (a gazillion rim and off-set combos possible). The advans only have ET48 listed...dunno if that clears or not.

HTH

Well, from what I can tell the following wheels will fit:

std JDM STi 17x7.5 (www.rallispec.com)
Prodrive OZ 10 (p1?) 18 inch ET46 (http://www.subaru.co.uk/cgi-bin/accessories.pl?brand=subaru&area=sw03)
Prodrive PFF7 18 inch(http://www.subaru.co.uk/cgi-bin/accessories.pl?brand=subaru&area=sw03)
Prodrive GC-06 17, 18 (from last post and http://www.prodrive-japan.com/english/products/)
Prodrive GC-010E (http://www.prodrive-japan.com/english/products/)
Prodrive GC-05 (http://www.prodrive-japan.com/english/products/)
ScoobySport Sao Paulo 18 (http://www.scoobysport.co.uk/wheels.htm)
Axis Battles as mentioned above
Various Volk wheels, all mention fitting the Brmbo calipers (TE-37, CE-28N, Gramlite 57f) (http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/e_index.html)

I'll take a set of those Potenza RE55S tires (on the volk site) too!

I'm sure there are others, but I got tired of looking with my modem connection...

Note, it sounds like the Prodrive P1 that most people have (even in 18) has the wrong offset to work with the Brembos. The prodrive site specifically lists the 18 inch P1 with an offset of 46mm as fitting the Brembos.

I'll take a set of 17x8 forged GC-06D in British Black for my white STi...We should be able to get them from Prodrive-USA soon.

TRS

To Glenn for the first post and to you Todd for this last one.
It's still (at this point) mind boggling on what to choose. I don't want to go to 18" for all-season tires. Just don't wanna get something that is going to rub something or another to cause damage to myself or the STi during the cold season.

Note, it sounds like the Prodrive P1 that most people have (even in 18) has the wrong offset to work with the Brembos. The prodrive site specifically lists the 18 inch P1 with an offset of 46mm as fitting the Brembos.

[/B]

Wonder how a 17 inch Rota Tarmac would do? It looks just like a P1 and has a 48mm offset. 7.5 inch width too.

Originally posted by afpdl


What size subzeros dont fit?

Well, I have 18's and they clear the Subaru 4pots just like the new wheels clear the Brembos so it's an educated guess they they won't fit. THey Subs clear the 4pots just like the Euto 17's and those don't fit cuz they were tested.

Leo

damn

what is the opinion on these VOLK wheels?
on the volk site in the wheel guide it says:
-ce28 in 18" will need a 44 offset???
otherwise I'll have to get 17" and some of those are wierd offsets also.

this will be my 3rd subaru and I know I've always read that you don't want to go any less then 48 with the offset.

anyone agree?
or disagree?

How about advan kreuzer
http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan/top.jsp;jsessionid=aaaIhJFCXnSjJP6iRKuJG
18x7.5 +50

Will Advan RG's fit?? 17x8.5 offset of 43

Assuming the STi Type UK's big gold Brembo's are the same as our big gold Brembo's, it looks like 17" Prodrive P1's will fit.

Not in ET53, but the ET48 will clear the calipers.

Understand the stock JDM STi wheels are ET53 so using the smaller offset is purely to clear the brakes. If you can get ET53 and clear the brakes, that is better.

Glenn

How about a 17x7.5 Tarmac (P1 style) with 48 mm offset?

I read through the first three pages and never saw it posted, but for those on a tight budget you COULD just buy tires and swap them on and off the factory wheels. Figure about $150/yr for the two swaps at a good shop, and it'll be awhile before you break even on that $1k+ set of wheels.

Also, I'm willing to bet by the time most need winter tires this year(say, November or so?), the aftermarket will have addressed this issue and be offering cheap 17" wheels just for this purpose. . .

can anyone comment on these wheels with +44 or +43 offsets???
is it safe to run with offsets this wide?
please help.
thanks
byron

Anyone know if the OZ Superturismo Evolution GC-WRC lookalike rims will fit?

They are 17x7 ET48... all 15 spokes are thin and are as far away from the brakes as possible. They clear AP 4 pot calipers fine but my understanding is that the Brembos are deeper than the AP's.

How about the rota attack's? I already have a set and would put all season Hi-po tires on them as my second set of wheels, for the winter months, long trips, and, um, drifting.

Also, I just got a set of Enkei es-tarmac's:

Front: 17x9" +50mm 5x100
Rear: 17x8.5 +48mm 5x100

These are made to clear sti calipers, infact, it's a special GDB fitment. I'll be running 255/40-17 Toyo RA-1's on those for auto-x, track, agressive street driving, etc.

Kevin

Per another thread in the wheels forum, the attacks will not fit the sti. Mine will be going up for sale.

Kevin

Prodrive-US will almost certainly have a selection of wheels in 17" (and larger) specifically for the STi.

There's nothing listed specifically for the STi on their US site yet, but worth keeping an eye on www.prodrive-usa.com

In fact, they have a really nice looking forged wheel on their Japanese website www.prodrive-japan.com (the GC-010E) which is due to be released in the US within a month or two..........looks very much like the 10-spoke Volk CE28N and will probably have a price to match. I checked with them and this wheel was designed to clear the STi's Brembos.

It's funny that the Rota version of the Prodrive fits!:lol:

I've got a set of track wheels from my '02 WRX stored at a shop. They are 17" x 7.5" Team Dynamics Racing wheels. (From England, I think.) I haven't had time to try them on my STi. Anyone know, offhand, if they'll fit over the Brembos? Thanks!

Mike

i, too, would like some help trying to figure out if my wheels will fit. I have 18" ADR Phase 1 wheels with a +50 offset, I think. I'm having a hard time finding out any information on these wheels so any help would be greatly appreciated...pic. is below if that helps any:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kenkamm/m16.jpg

thanks :D

bump

Originally posted by WRX 2002
I have 2 sets of SSR's for the STi already from my WRX, I just hope they fit..?.

I think its best and easiest in the long run to have a seperate set of rims with tires for Winter especially with such a performance car like the STi. You want the best grip in the summer and best in the winter otherwise why purchase such as car.

My 2 c's.

N
17" SSRs do not fit.

Neither do 17" Rota Attacks.

:(

Originally posted by rlavalle

17" SSRs do not fit.

Neither do 17" Rota Attacks.

:(

I know about the SSR's I just tried them last week end. Its a shame. Some one keeps mentioning that the Rota ADRs fit, can this be comfirmed by any one actually fitting them on the STi.

Nigel.

Originally posted by WRX 2002
Its a shame. Some one keeps mentioning that the Rota ADRs fit, can this be comfirmed by any one actually fitting them on the STi.
ADRs or SDRs?
I am waiting for a confirmation on these as well.
Nigel, did you find a good brake pads for Gingerman?

To know if wheels fit, you need to try them on.

You cannot determine fitment from size and offset, not even from size and offset and X-factor.

OZ Superleggeras have manufacturing / fragility issues.

FYI

Originally posted by RafalW

ADRs or SDRs?
I am waiting for a confirmation on these as well.
Nigel, did you find a good brake pads for Gingerman?

Probably SRD's...!

I haven't lloked for a set of PADs yet for Gingerman, apprarently the standard pads do OK, but not sure how long they will last.

N.

Originally posted by WRX 2002
Probably SRD's...!
Sounds right. ;)
I haven't lloked for a set of PADs yet for Gingerman, apprarently the standard pads do OK, but not sure how long they will last.
But my dealer (Evanston Subaru) still do not have them. And I heard the price is high (over $300). God has these Endless for a little less. Are they any good?

I will source some from Australia, they have had the Brembo brakes for a while I will make a call tonight see what price and get a couple of sets shipped if anyone else might be interested. These will be race pads not street pads. Just change them over for track days...

N.

Can anyone else confirm the Rota Subzeros in 18" fit ? I have read on 2 forums they do...

thanks

Originally posted by wrx what
Can anyone else confirm the Rota Subzeros in 18" fit ? I have read on 2 forums they do...

thanks

Where did you hear that? AFAIK they do not fit. they do not even clear the willwood calipers. The spokes just jut too far in towards the brakes.

Originally posted by afpdl


Where did you hear that? AFAIK they do not fit. they do not even clear the willwood calipers. The spokes just jut too far in towards the brakes.

((SUBYDUDE))

Hi,

Yes it will fit.... and it is in stock.

Regards,



-----Original Message-----
From: Active i Media [mailto:contact@activeimedia.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 5:38 PM
To: wrx@subydude.com
Subject: re: wheels

Will the Rota Subzero - 18" fit a MY04 USDM STi?

re: http://www.subydude.com/parts/details.php?121

If so, are they in stock? I would like a set.

Thanks

Thats odd since I am returning a set to subydude because I told him they wouldnt fit and he didnt say anything to the contrary. I didnt actually try them on a sti but I have been told by a few that they willnot fit and by one person with willwood brakes (which are smaller then the sti's) that the sub zeros wouldnt clear the willwoods.

Originally posted by suresh
Put on some WRX calipers/rotors and use your good old 16"/17" rims

Actually that is a very smart idea. I am doing something similar on my race car. I plan to run the Brembos for the track but I need to run 15" gravel wheels for rally and rallycross so I am getting some quick-release brake lines from Earls that will make swapping to small calipers a 15 minute job.

I'm not using rear Brembos though, I went with GC STi rear brakes since my car weighs some 600 pounds less than the USA STi and these clear 15" race wheels.

Originally posted by Jude DeMeis


Actually that is a very smart idea. I am doing something similar on my race car. I plan to run the Brembos for the track but I need to run 15" gravel wheels for rally and rallycross so I am getting some quick-release brake lines from Earls that will make swapping to small calipers a 15 minute job.

I'm not using rear Brembos though, I went with GC STi rear brakes since my car weighs some 600 pounds less than the USA STi and these clear 15" race wheels.

I'm thinking of doing the same thing for winter/snow use (steel wheels!).

- Janq

Rota SDR's fit great! actually seem to have more room in there than the stock wheels. More space around the rotor and caliper. They actually make the brake look small, which is amazing for a 17" wheel!

great choice for winter wheels guys!

p-rex

thanks glad I have conformation on the sdrs I have a set sitting in my garage awaiting my car.

Originally posted by FYI


OZ Superleggeras have manufacturing / fragility issues.

FYI

I have found that out the hardway.......twice on 17's. Mine do get some serious city abuse though.

I measured tonight:
STI brakes (Brembos) need 1.5" clearance from the wheel's inside face to the inside of the spokes. Most wheels have only 1" to 1.25"


Anyone have the diameter requirements?


The distance marked by the <> is the critical distance and MUST be >=1.5"

(wheel cross section)
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What about the wheels the actual rally car uses for gravel and snow events? Should those not clear the brakes and have the right offset?

The rally car does not have huge Brembos, and I think it's using 15" wheels.

wgknestrick -

Does 1.5" include some minimum clearance away from the caliper or does it mean that it just stops at the caliper and we should add whatever minmimum clearance to that number?

thanks :)

That 1.5" involves clearance.

I believe the brakes come out to about 1.3", but it is hard to get a good measurement.

I also believe that wheels would be somewhat standard on this measurement (1" or 1.5" clearance with nothing in between except maybe 1.25")

Anyone measure the required inside diameter yet?

Does anyone think it would be possible to negotiate with the dealer to swap the Potenzas for another tire, like the Michelin Pilot A/S's? I live in Wyoming and commute 150 miles to Utah through mountain passes (ie lots of snow and ice on the road). We get snow\ice anywhere from Nov to May (7-8 months out of the year). I'd rather get the STi with all-season tires, since it's already July. I'll worry about buying new summer tires next summer. I also don't want to have to buy new rims for the winter. Some of you who are considering buying $500 wheels from Japan to use for winter use are nuts! Why aren't you people driving M3s or Corvettes? :D

edit: This is another reason I'm considering a Nissan Pathfinder instead of the STi :(.

Originally posted by jaypride
The rally car does not have huge Brembos, and I think it's using 15" wheels.

Hm, good call. I guess they use bigger wheels for the tarmac rallies, never really noticed the wheel size for winter rallies.

Edit: 14" in the front for tarmac, 11" for gravel, apparently. My Jetta has 11" brakes, so your statement regarding 15" wheels would make sense

Originally posted by Tanman
Does anyone think it would be possible to negotiate with the dealer to swap the Potenzas for another tire, like the Michelin Pilot A/S's? I live in Wyoming and commute 150 miles to Utah through mountain passes (ie lots of snow and ice on the road). We get snow\ice anywhere from Nov to May (7-8 months out of the year). I'd rather get the STi with all-season tires, since it's already July. I'll worry about buying new summer tires next summer. I also don't want to have to buy new rims for the winter. Some of you who are considering buying $500 wheels from Japan to use for winter use are nuts! Why aren't you people driving M3s or Corvettes? :D

edit: This is another reason I'm considering a Nissan Pathfinder instead of the STi :(.

If you are looking for a Sport Ute, consider the new Forrester XT. Car and Driver teasted it 0 - 60 in 5.3 seconds and it's been a top rated model (Consumer Reports).
Pick up this month's issue of Consumer Reports.
If you want a mid size Sport Ute, their list says:
1. Honda Pilot
2. Nissan Murano
3. Toyota Highlander
4. Mitsu Endeavor
5. Toyota 4 Runner
6. Chrysler Pacifica
7. Ford Explorer XLT
8. Nissan Pathfinder

Will the volk te37s fit????:confused:

Tanman:

I have driven a Pathfinder a lot in both winter conditions and in summer mountain conditions. First off, I love the car; but while it is a lot of fun when it is snowy, on ice, even with some awesome snow/ice tires, it is still too heavy IMHO for safe mountain-road driving. It just takes too long to stop, and I would be afraid when it got too steep. Maybe I am just too nervous around heights ;-). Anyway, I would recommend the Forester for safety on icy mountain roads if you need an SUV.

But if you decide to go with the STi, I would seriously recommend getting a set of winter tires. Currently I have a Prelude and I switch tires on my stock rims every spring/fall. It costs only $50 CAD at my local shop for the swap, and the wheels are then freshly balanced for the season. Yes, this will wear on the amazingly expensive BBS rims, but if you don't want the expense of getting another set of rims I think it is worth it. Personally, I have to wait to afford the STi anyway, so hopefully by then there will be an affordable solution for a second set of rims for the winter.

Eric

Hey guys, I'm really liking the look of the Advan RG's and the Advan RCII's. Any of you know if these will fit? If so, what size and offset do fit?

Check 'em out at
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Advan/advanwheels.htm

-STiLL

Originally posted by ewt
Tanman:

I have driven a Pathfinder a lot in both winter conditions and in summer mountain conditions. First off, I love the car; but while it is a lot of fun when it is snowy, on ice, even with some awesome snow/ice tires, it is still too heavy IMHO for safe mountain-road driving. It just takes too long to stop, and I would be afraid when it got too steep. Maybe I am just too nervous around heights ;-). Anyway, I would recommend the Forester for safety on icy mountain roads if you need an SUV.

But if you decide to go with the STi, I would seriously recommend getting a set of winter tires. Currently I have a Prelude and I switch tires on my stock rims every spring/fall. It costs only $50 CAD at my local shop for the swap, and the wheels are then freshly balanced for the season. Yes, this will wear on the amazingly expensive BBS rims, but if you don't want the expense of getting another set of rims I think it is worth it. Personally, I have to wait to afford the STi anyway, so hopefully by then there will be an affordable solution for a second set of rims for the winter.

Eric

Cool, fellow Nissan and Subaru fan :). I plan to do the tire-swap thing, just wondering if the dealer will sell the car with all seasons instead of the stock summer tires. That way I won't have to pay another $276 per tire for the Michelin Pilot A/S's and for the swaps. I'd rather have all seasons until Nov, then switch to the winter tires for the winter, or maybe even keep the all seasons on if money is short.

Originally posted by peczenij


If you are looking for a Sport Ute, consider the new Forrester XT. Car and Driver teasted it 0 - 60 in 5.3 seconds and it's been a top rated model (Consumer Reports).
Pick up this month's issue of Consumer Reports.
If you want a mid size Sport Ute, their list says:
1. Honda Pilot
2. Nissan Murano
3. Toyota Highlander
4. Mitsu Endeavor
5. Toyota 4 Runner
6. Chrysler Pacifica
7. Ford Explorer XLT
8. Nissan Pathfinder

I was considering the Forester XT, especially with those numbers (13.2 quarter mile I read somewhere), but it's not that pretty a car. Of all the others in your list, I like the look of the Pathfinder best, plus the list of options are nice.

Stock STI = 17x7, ET??
Why not go for a 17x8, ET35, that should give you all the caliper clearance you need, no?

STI - ET=53mm

If you get a smaller offset you can (not necessarily will, but can) damage your wheel bearings, prolly not worth the risk.

STi JDM Version 7s fit, 17 inch 53mm

http://www.usdmsti.com/images/jdmv7_1.jpg

Originally posted by jaypride
STI - ET=53mm

If you get a smaller offset you can (not necessarily will, but can) damage your wheel bearings, prolly not worth the risk.

Okay, you're going to have to explain this one to me. I've swapped offsets when purchasing aftermarket wheels before and NEVER had a wheel bearing go on me.

All a smaller offset does is push the spokes out more. Explain how this translates to wheel bearings...unless you're talking about using 15mm+ wheel spacers that aren't hubcentric. Then I can see what you're talking about. But using a 17x8 w/ET35, I just don't see it.

A 35 mm offset is 18 mm off from stock (what the car is rated to be running) which is worse than using a 15mm spacer.
By changing the offset you push the entire wheel out giving the wheel more leverage on the bearing. And I said it CAN harm the bearings. A 5mm offset may do nothing going to a 48 or something like that is prolly fine, pushing it out to 35, your begging for trouble.

Originally posted by jaypride
A 35 mm offset is 18 mm off from stock (what the car is rated to be running) which is worse than using a 15mm spacer.
By changing the offset you push the entire wheel out giving the wheel more leverage on the bearing. And I said it CAN harm the bearings. A 5mm offset may do nothing going to a 48 or something like that is prolly fine, pushing it out to 35, your begging for trouble.

Not to get into a pissing match here, but the added "stress" of using a more aggressive offset, IMO, won't kill a wheel bearing. If it does, it will do so over the course of 100,000 miles instead of 130,000.
Unless Subaru made the wheel bearings out of glass or you can back up your statement with empirical data or at least one person that went to a 35mm offset and spun all 4 wheel bearings (or at least one that can be directly contributed to using a wider wheel w/aggressive offset), I'll file this one in the internet paranoia folder.

Like I said, they were a few people had failed bearings back in the 98-99 2.5 RS days, and Subaru dealers were pretty vigilant about not paying for it if you had aftermarket wheels with a different offset than stock. (Jeff Denmeade's One Lap car might have been one of these cases).

I could actually imagine that even an STi with ET33 driven very hard could do some damage earlier than 100k. It isn't the bearing design, it is the location of the bearings in the hub/spindle relative to the wheel center.

So, whether the issue is real or not is hard to say, but at the very least you should be aware of the risk of what the dealers might do. Personally I think they and Subaru would be within their rights... the car was designed for ET53.

Glenn

Originally posted by Glenn Wallace
Like I said, they were a few people had failed bearings back in the 98-99 2.5 RS days, and Subaru dealers were pretty vigilant about not paying for it if you had aftermarket wheels with a different offset than stock. (Jeff Denmeade's One Lap car might have been one of these cases).

I could actually imagine that even an STi with ET33 driven very hard could do some damage earlier than 100k. It isn't the bearing design, it is the location of the bearings in the hub/spindle relative to the wheel center.

So, whether the issue is real or not is hard to say, but at the very least you should be aware of the risk of what the dealers might do. Personally I think they and Subaru would be within their rights... the car was designed for ET53.

Glenn

Thanks for the datapoint, was not aware of the problem with the 1st gen Stateside Imprezas.
While I don't see it as a decision breaking issue, I would rather use an 8" or wider wheel with aggressive offset in the not so rare (in NYC) case that I bend a wheel with really tight caliper clearance and take the caliper/hub/strut with it.

I'd rather do bearings every 50k or even 30k than have to source out those brembo calipers, or even worse, tear a front brake line.

Some may think I'm paranoid, but I have bent 3 wheels, the strut housing, the strut itself, broken a lower control arm and spun a tie rod end all on the same pothole incident. Gotta love the DOT. :D

16" Custom wheels from Kodiak Custom Wheels in Canada will work. But they are big bucks. I don't know tif hey have the bolt pattern in 4x100mm.

Why not use a 40mm (7.5" width) offset wheel with a .5" (13mm) spacer.

This should give you: 40mm+13mm=53mm

A) Required brake DEPTH (dist from wheel lug face to inside of spokes)clearance of 1.5" (assuming most wheels give at least 1"

B) A wheel that has the equivalent offset of the stock BBS (53mm)

C) Almost unlimited options with wheels

Now can anyone answer whether or not a 40mm offset in 5*100 bolt pattern is a common size?

Spacers move the wheels the other direction. 40mm offset + 13mm spacer = 27mm total offset.

My mistake. So are there any wheels that have a 66mm (53mm+13mm) offset?

Originally posted by Glenn Wallace
Like I said, they were a few people had failed bearings back in the 98-99 2.5 RS days, and Subaru dealers were pretty vigilant about not paying for it if you had aftermarket wheels with a different offset than stock. (Jeff Denmeade's One Lap car might have been one of these cases).
Glenn

So is anyone making heavy duty wheel bearings? Would the ones from an STi be better than WRX bearings?

The sti bearings are supposed to be beefier then the wrx bearings

Originally posted by urs4
or you can back up your statement with empirical data or at least one person that went to a 35mm offset and spun all 4 wheel bearings (or at least one that can be directly contributed to using a wider wheel w/aggressive offset), I'll file this one in the internet paranoia folder. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=385319

I think you'll be fine with an ET48 or ET50 wheel with up to a 10mm spacer.

10mm spacers would really increase the number of available wheels to fit the STi.

Of course, anyone using wheel spacers should also use correspondingly longer wheel studs.

ok back on topic. kinda


so cheap wheels that have been said to fit.


Rota SDR's 17x7 . someone posted on page 6 that they fit.

also ROTA attacks 18.7 on a wrx with the v7 brembo brakes fits.

as the picture neil posted up earlier. the reason i am inquriing aqbout this is i am putting v7 brembos on my wrx and i dont like the attacks. so i am thinking of going with the sd'rs. also you guys should keep an eye out for some new rotas ;) they always seem to come out with something when its needed :)

The RG's and RCII's will fit, just make sure you get the right size...

17c8.5 +43 for the RG, 17x8.5, +45 for the RCII.

like everything else, offset itself does not operate alone. The offset though has to be matched to the width of the wheel in order to get the 'right" wheel for the car. Both the above represent correct sizing.

Adam

The Rota SDRs look nice. I'm thinking about getting them if they really do fit the STis. $650 for a set of the wheels seems like a great deal... almost too good... is there something about Rotas that I don't know about? Are they good quality?

orthojoe

thanks for replying with the info on the Advan rims Z1, I really appreciate it.

-STiLL

I have a set of 17x8.5, 45 or 46 offset Advan RCIIs on my car. They clear the Brembos and no rubbing. :)

nice choice..one of my favorites!

I'm going with Compomotive TH3's. 17x7.5 w/ 53mm offset in gold.
Will fit perfectly & are proven rally tough. I just hate beating such
a beautiful wheel in the winter, but I don't want to use spacers
& I don't want the tires sticking out any more than they already are.:D

Originally posted by mazdman
...I'm going with Compomotive TH3's. 17x7.5 w/ 53mm offset in gold...

They look great...good choice!
What are you paying for it shipped?

Originally posted by G-shock

They look great...good choice!
What are you paying for it shipped?

I'm getting them for $1296 delivered. They basically gave
me the racer discount & gold & shipping for free.;)

They retail for $360/ea + $12.50/ea for gold + shipping + PA tax.
So I saved about $300-$350 total.

Originally posted by orthojoe
The Rota SDRs look nice. I'm thinking about getting them if they really do fit the STis. $650 for a set of the wheels seems like a great deal... almost too good... is there something about Rotas that I don't know about? Are they good quality?

orthojoe

they had one problem with one run of a certain rims. rota usa replaced them.

so far, all i can see is that they are just a not so big name company that makes copies of other wheel company's look.

it's like buying a nike shoe without the swoosh... quality of nike without the price...

Main isue though is that these whels are from a quality unit....they are inexpensively done cast, and are quite prone to bending and cracking.

I don't think those Compomotive wheels are going to come close to fitting.....

Z1, so if the Advan RG's(17x8.5 +43) and the 17x8.5 Advan RCII's(proven to fit on the STi by h20) both work for the STi, can I ASSUME that the 17x8.5 +45 Advan TCII's will fit the STi as well??


-STiLL

you can find the TCII's here:
http://www.machiii.net/machiii/html/wheels/AVS/TCII.html#

Any other places that sell TCII's??

Correct..Japan informs me that they will fit

We can get them pretty easily, and ahve already supplied a handful to some Evo and 350Z owners...let me know if you want pricing and lead times.

Adam

You're the man Z1. I will definitely get hold of you when I'm ready to get them. I really hope that its (a little?)better than $630/wheel:( IE;MachIII.net

Nevertheless, I will be in correspondence with you about the TCII's in the future, that's for sure.

Thanks again for all your help.

-STiLL

Originally posted by Z1 Performance
Main isue though is that these whels are from a quality unit....they are inexpensively done cast, and are quite prone to bending and cracking.



As stated earlier, it was a bad batch of Sub-Zeros (like the first to come over) and those who had problems got their set replaced!

I hit a pothole the other day that I jumped in the seat and mind you I tip the scales at 265lbs. I got home cursing that I bent a rim and to my surprise when I got out of the car, not a bend. Took it to get checked in a balancing machine and not a dent, just a balloned tire. This sealed the deal for me for a set of SDR's for track dutties for the STi

Leo

Originally posted by Z1 Performance
Main isue though is that these whels are from a quality unit....they are inexpensively done cast, and are quite prone to bending and cracking.

I don't think those Compomotive wheels are going to come close to fitting.....

Well, obviously you know more than Compomotive in the UK &
all the rally drivers w/ STI's who are & have been using this
wheel for many years. You might want to check your info before
making a broad generalization.

P.S. Check their website in a few weeks, you'll see a pic of
my STI w/ the wheels that don't come close to fitting!:D

Does any one know if the ssr competion rims will fit over the brembos?

This is a long thread... SSRs were mentioned earlier.

Alas, 17" x 7.5" SSRs do not fit over the Brembos of the STi.

I hear they do with 5mm spacers, so I have a set of H&R spacers on the way.

Russ

Originally posted by Turbo Juice
Does any one know if the ssr competion rims will fit over the brembos?

Originally posted by rlavalle
This is a long thread... SSRs were mentioned earlier.

Alas, 17" x 7.5" SSRs do not fit over the Brembos of the STi.

I hear they do with 5mm spacers, so I have a set of H&R spacers on the way.

Russ



Thanx for the reply. If it doesn't fit , I'll buy yours of you.

Spacers or SSRs?

See ya,
Russ

Originally posted by Turbo Juice


Thanx for the reply. If it doesn't fit , I'll buy yours of you.

Originally posted by WRX 2002
I have 2 sets of SSR's for the STi already from my WRX, I just hope they fit..?.

I think its best and easiest in the long run to have a seperate set of rims with tires for Winter especially with such a performance car like the STi. You want the best grip in the summer and best in the winter otherwise why purchase such as car.

My 2 c's.

N
I'll buy one of your sets of the ssr rims. Let me know if your interested thanx

Originally posted by rlavalle
Spacers or SSRs?

See ya,
Russ


I'm sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean? Thanx again for the info

NO

Sorry. I thought you were asking a question about my post.

Russ

Originally posted by Turbo Juice

I'm sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean? Thanx again for the info

Just an FYI guys that Prodrive has a P1 in alimited edition color and size (18x7.5, +45) just for the STi...in stock now for immediate delivery (color is titanium crystal)

Adam

Just an FYI guys that Prodrive has a P1 in alimited edition color and size (18x7.5, +45) just for the STi...in stock now for immediate delivery (color is titanium crystal)

As for the TCII, it is available in 17x8.5, +45 for the STi...absolutely gorgeous!

Adam

Anyone have pics of this Prodrive wheel and the color?
I don't have the first clue with "Titanium Crystal" is or would look like.

I have a titanium watch and its grey/silver.
Is this close or what? :huh:

Thanks,

- Janq

Hey Adam,

How about a pic or a link to one.

Thanks.

on the prodrive website they list the bottom two sets as fitting

18” P-WRC1 Wheel, 7.5” x 18” ET46:
Crystal titanium or rally gold finish
Fits Forester & Impreza STi (fitted with Brembo brakes)


18” PFF7 – 8” x 18”:
Bright flitter or gold finish
Fits all Impreza 01MY onwards (including STi fitted with Brembo brakes)

http://prodrive.com/pagefiles/side%20wheel%20range3.jpg

what about the Volk Racing SF-Winning?
would they fit and can u get them here?

Suby Dude confirmed to be that Rota Attacks fit. What do u guys think about these? Would white look ok? I'm just trying for something different.

Originally posted by STI 2 NV
Suby Dude confirmed to be that Rota Attacks fit. What do u guys think about these? Would white look ok? I'm just trying for something different.

Are the Rota Attacks really strong enough for this car? I've seen one come apart on a regular WRX during an autocross and the STi is a fair bit more brutal than the WRX.

:eek:

I've got 17" Rota Attacks... and they definitely do NOT fit.

Suby Dude shipped me Rota SDRs that should be here today that are reported to fit. Can't wait to check them out!

Russ

ok. so rota wise so far. teh 18" attacks fit. teh 17" sd'rs fit
and tonight the actions are being test fitted on an sti to see if they fit. if the actions fit i am definatley getting me a set. maybe 2 :)

so who actually has the 18" Rota Attacks on their car? did they use spacers?

i am sorry i keep saying attacks and mean battles. these are the wheels that fit

http://home.earthlink.net/~traintrax/battles.jpg

the brakes on that car are v7 brembo brakes.

Originally posted by rlavalle
I've got 17" Rota Attacks... and they definitely do NOT fit.

Suby Dude shipped me Rota SDRs that should be here today that are reported to fit. Can't wait to check them out!

Russ

The SDR's do fit. I have them on my car.

These fit: 17"*8" (44ET) Voll TE 37s and a pic to prove it


http://users.rcn.com/wgknestrick/IMG_0013.jpg

thanks, but a 44 offset on a car that comes with a 53 is a little too much for me. Not to mention the car comes with 17" wheels (albeit not those nice grey ones) :)



is anyone else concerned with these wide offsets.
SPD told me back on the day not to even go with the 48's that are out there. poor handling, wheel bearing wear.

byron

Like anything else, offset itself has NOTHING to do with wheel fitment - rather it is a combination of offset, width, and overall wheel design. Rays (the makers of Volk) is one of the largest OEM wheel manufacturers in Japan, and easily the most popular high end aftermarket wheel to come from Japan. They know what they are talking about, and much like Tire Rack, will not recommend a size that they feel compromises safety or performance in any way.

As long as the wheel stud has ample thread to secure the wheel, you will not be placing any stress on the bearings.

Adam

Has anybody tried the Enkeis RP F1 on 17x8?

Those seem to be a very good option for price and weight (15.5 lbs) provided that they clear the brembo calipers.

These come with a 45 offset which is not a big concern for me since I would only use them for the track.

thanks.

jpimienta

Can you post a pic or a link to a pic of anEnkei RP F1? I still haven't seen one...

just go to www.enkei.com then click high performance and then rpf1

They have pictures and spes but they do not provide matching info.

JP

It should fit, but then again, I have seen Enkei make claims that an application fits (ie on Evo's), and they don't.

Just for fun, I weighed my 17" Rota SDRs... They're not the 15 to 16 lbs that I've seen advertised.

They're 19 lbs. :(

Russ

The SDRs look pretty nice and have 2mm or so of clearance from the front Brembos.

I bought these for use at the track with race rubber. Might just buy a set for daily driving too.

Here's a photo...

http://idisk.mac.com/rlavalle/public/photos/rota-sdr.jpg

I would be more scared of running Rota SDRs on the track than the BBS rims which are forged and as strong as any racing rims out there.

I'm not too worried about exposing Rota SDRs to G Forces, bot side (turns) and front to back (accel/braking). I used my Rota Attacks on the track without drama.

Besides, have you seen the type of cosmetic abuse race wheels are subjected to? Tossed in a pickup or onto a trailer for transportation, rolled around the paddocks, knocked over, etc.

The STi BBS's would quickly become scratched and ugly.

I'm sure the BBS's are stronger, but the Rota's should be strong enough.

Russ

Russ,
Those SDR's fit w/ Rota-std 48 mm offset?
They look pretty good.
Weird that the SDR's fit, but the PFF-7's don't,
and that the Rota Tarmacs apparently fit, but the P1's don't (at least not in 17", w/ the "normal" offset).
How ironic is that?? :confused:

Did you get yours from Subydude?

Russ Rainforth

So far these wheels fit:

Prodrive P1 18" ET46
Prodrive PFF7 18"
Speedline Turini 18"
Oz Superleggera 19"
std JDM STi 17"x7.5
Prodrive GC-06 17"
ScoobySport Sao Paulo 18"
Rota SDR 17"


Prodrive GC-010E Size?
Prodrive GC-05 Size?

Corrections? Did I miss any?

Hi Russ,

I'll have to check the offset.

Are you sure the Tarmacs fit? I thought the only Rota that fit was the SDR (in 17" at least). Not absolutely sure though.

Austin, you seem pretty interested in STi subjects... you going to take the plunge? :)

We missed you at the Suby meet up on Whidbey. :(

See ya,
Russ


Originally posted by wrrrx
Russ,
Those SDR's fit w/ Rota-std 48 mm offset?
They look pretty good.
Weird that the SDR's fit, but the PFF-7's don't,
and that the Rota Tarmacs apparently fit, but the P1's don't (at least not in 17", w/ the "normal" offset).
How ironic is that?? :confused:

Did you get yours from Subydude?

Russ Rainforth

Originally posted by Austin
So far these wheels fit:

Prodrive P1 18" ET46
Prodrive PFF7 18"
Speedline Turini 18"
Oz Superleggera 19"
std JDM STi 17"x7.5
Prodrive GC-06 17"
ScoobySport Sao Paulo 18"
Rota SDR 17"


Prodrive GC-010E Size?
Prodrive GC-05 Size?

Corrections? Did I miss any?

Hi Austin!
Ya, you missed plenty!!
I just spent like 3 friggin' hours in this thread yesterday writing all this down. (Now that I finally checked my 17" P1's, knowing they almost certainly wouldn't fit... and they didn't.:furious: )

Anyhow, in no particular order, these also fit;
Prodrive P1 17" ET 48 (so says Glenn W)
Advan RG 17" X 7.5 (dunno which offset)
Advan RCII 17" X 7.5 ( " )
Advan TCII 17" X 7.5 ( " )
Volk CE28N 17" X 8 (dunno which offset)
Volk Gram Lights 57F 17" X 8 ( " )
Volk TE-37 17" X 8 ( " )
or were you just excluding wheels that cost a zillion dollars?
;)
Man, those Advans and Volks make the Prodrives look cheap dollar-wise! Car-RAAA-zee money!

and maybe maybe maybe
MAYBE Compomotive TH3 17" X 7.5 w/ 53mm offset.
God, I hope so!

Russ - as far as Rota Tarmac, it's unconfirmed;
Go back to page 5 in this thread, where Glenn Wallace mentions that 17" P1's with the ET48's fit, and Lightsped asked if that meant the Rota Tarmacs would work, since they have an ET of 48...
and moderator Leonardo thought it was funny that the cheap Rota knockoff of the Prodrive wheel fit, when the "real thing" didn't...
(Which is really pretty funny... :huh: )

I'm gonna run a quick check on my P1's w/ itty bitty spacers (yes, yes... I know= bad!) (or, = not good, anyway).

Russ Rainforth

Originally posted by rlavalle
Austin, you seem pretty interested in STi subjects... you going to take the plunge? :)
I'm waiting for the end of the autox season before I get my STi. Probably between November/xmas. First thing it's getting is a CascadeAutosport rollcage.

Nice... It'll be interesting to see what you do with the WRX. Put it back to stock & sell it or sell it with most/all mods in place.

My WRX is 100 percent stock right now (except for the bumper tunnel being cut out).

See ya,
Russ

Originally posted by rlavalle
Nice... It'll be interesting to see what you do with the WRX. Put it back to stock & sell it or sell it with most/all mods in place.
My wife has decided she likes it, so it'll be her car. I'll have to pull the TEC out and do something like ecutek... That's why I'm waiting until the racing season is over.

Originally posted by rlavalle
Nice... It'll be interesting to see what you do with the WRX. Put it back to stock & sell it or sell it with most/all mods in place.
My wife has decided she likes it, so it'll be her car. I'll have to pull the TEC out and do something like ecutek... That's why I'm waiting until the racing season is over.

The Volk TE37s are 17"*8" (44mm ET) They are listed in the Volk pamphlet as fitting the imprezza with brembo calipers.

Originally posted by Austin
My wife has decided she likes it, so it'll be her car. I'll have to pull the TEC out and do something like ecutek... That's why I'm waiting until the racing season is over.
So you'll have a beefy wrx, an STi w/ CascadeAutosport rollcage, and a '91 Legacy Turbo all sitting in or near your garage?

If emoticons == cars, you'd then have: :banana: :devil: and :disco: sitting in your driveway.

--jeff :D

Hey!

You missed my wheels, the enkei es-tarmac:

17x9" et50
17x8.5" et48

These will be going on my sti, with the 255/40-17 RA-1 tires.

I have a question:

How far from fitting are the Rota Attacks? Will they fit with a 3mm spacer, 5mm spacer, etc? Please don't lecture me about offset, I don't really care, since my race wheels considerably more radical. I already have the wheels and would like to use them if I don't sell them.

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

I test fit the 17" Rotas... Here are the results:

No Spacers: Ha! :(
5mm Spacers: Nope. :(
10mm Spacers: Yes. :)

With the 10mm spacers, there was about 4mm of clearance. So to get 2mm of clearance, you'd want at least 8mm spacers.

Good luck!
Russ

Russ (WA) - if you get a chance, can you also check a set of 17" Rota Battles with your spacer array?

Are you coming out for the Bremerton NT this weekend? We could fit up a Rota Batte there...

Originally posted by rlavalle
Hi Kevin,

I test fit the 17" Rotas... Here are the results:

No Spacers: Ha! :(
5mm Spacers: Nope. :(
10mm Spacers: Yes. :)

With the 10mm spacers, there was about 4mm of clearance. So to get 2mm of clearance, you'd want at least 8mm spacers.

Good luck!
Russ

Thanks Russ, that's a big help!

Kevin

Apparently Tire Rack will soon have 17" and 18" inch SSR G7s (new wheel) in 50 and 51 offsets for the STi.......7 spoke style.

For more info go to www.i-club.com and check out the wheel/tire forum and look for "Tire Rack In-House Fitment " thread.....there are pictures and pricing shown.

Bill.

Don't'cha know you can't link I-club...

Originally posted by wrrrx
Weird that the SDR's fit, but the PFF-7's don't,


PFF7s do in fact fit... ;)

http://www.mcnproductions.com/sti/pff7side.jpg

-Mike-

Hi Austin,

I don't have Battles and won't make it to the Bremerton NT. Maybe we could hook up next week to test fit.

See ya,
Russ

Originally posted by Austin
Russ (WA) - if you get a chance, can you also check a set of 17" Rota Battles with your spacer array?

Are you coming out for the Bremerton NT this weekend? We could fit up a Rota Batte there...

Originally posted by CreoWRX

PFF7s do in fact fit... ;)
-Mike-
I think the confusion stemmed from the fact that On the 18" PFF7s fit... Well, uh, there aren't any available in 17".

Makes me wonder if somebody meant 17" GC07d wheels instead (and whether they fit or not)....

--jeff

Originally posted by Austin
Don't'cha know you can't link I-club...
Unless you do it like this: www.i-club.com (http://64.119.173.9/) :devil:

--jeff

Originally posted by CreoWRX


PFF7s do in fact fit... ;)

http://www.mcnproductions.com/sti/pff7side.jpg

-Mike-

Those are 17's or 18's?

Originally posted by Zoso


Those are 17's or 18's?

They are 18x8".

-Mike-

Just a little Update:
Prodrive USA has just released a few Wheels that are ideal for the STi.

Special Edition P1 (STi Specific)