Ok you know the Wrx has that wonderful "boxer" sound.. Is it amplified by the Exaust or because it's a 2.0L engine? I never heard a 2.2L sedan with the type sound the Wrx makes.. And if it's not dependent on the engine size I guess changing the exaust will get you that sound?

I think the N/A Impreza's sound better... WRX's you hear alot of the turbo and less of the engine.

Originally posted by Kostamojen
I think the N/A Impreza's sound better... WRX's you hear alot of the turbo and less of the engine. and the hollow drone of low compression and high lift cams ;) 2 things which the NA cars are definitley short of :)

jeremy

Here in Norwalk I was behind a Black Wrx with the turbo and I had to admit it sounded real good :D LOL I got my mom into the Subaru so now she can spot one faster and can hear one now.. LOL funny thing was one day when she saw a ricey car going down the street making a loud sound going down the street... My mom asks me "Are they trying to copy the sound of the Subaru?" lol I could not help but laugh.

How does the Stromung sound on the 2.2L? it sounds good a low Rpm's but it seems from video's and whatnot it gets a little raspy at a higher rpm..

you should hear the scoobies in england!!! they are straight up sick

I have a 2.5L turbo and it has 3inch exhaust turbo back, Very quiet untill you step on it. You hear the the turbo death whine and the very nice sounding 2.5 motor roar.

listen to this... my RS...

http://www.rallybc.com/Video/2002tbird/redlake08.asf

sounds just fine to me! :)

Jamie
www.subiegalracing.com

Originally posted by Subie Gal
listen to this... my RS...

http://www.rallybc.com/Video/2002tbird/redlake08.asf

sounds just fine to me! :)

Jamie
www.subiegalracing.com

hah nice! are you using the stock Exhaust headers?

Personally, I don't like the sound of the WRX's with exhaust. Every time I hear one I think it's running on 3 cylinders...

Eric

Originally posted by Eric v2.0
Personally, I don't like the sound of the WRX's with exhaust. Every time I hear one I think it's running on 3 cylinders...

Eric

The SPT one that Subaru offers for the WRX?

Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power


The SPT one that Subaru offers for the WRX?

I'm not sure about the SPT, but almost every aftermarket mufller I have heard makes them sound this way.

Originally posted by Subie Gal
listen to this... my RS...

http://www.rallybc.com/Video/2002tbird/redlake08.asf

sounds just fine to me! :)

Jamie
www.subiegalracing.com

That's what my RS sounds like when I hit a snow bank....... wait...... are we talking about exaust sounds or "snow bank hitting" sounds:lol:

Kurt

Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power


hah nice! are you using the stock Exhaust headers?

yep... and hey... that snow bank.. the next guy slammed into it (wrx) and stayed there for 1.5 hours!!! :D

see????
http://www.rallybc.com/Video/2002tbird/redlake09.asf

;) now i dont feel bad... hehehee
Jamie

put headers on the car... :D

then you'll have the lovely offbeat turbo boxer sound, plus the cool ripping drone they make under engine braking...

plus the cool frankenstein roar the n/a engines make once you at least get rid of the intake silencer.

Originally posted by RaceCarRiot
put headers on the car... :D

then you'll have the lovely offbeat turbo boxer sound, plus the cool ripping drone they make under engine braking...

plus the cool frankenstein roar the n/a engines make once you at least get rid of the intake silencer.

lol excuse the newbieness.. :lol: do you mean the intake or Exaust headers? heh I would love to hear how it sounds with the intake silencer off :)

the intake silencer is in the fender...frees up a couple hp.

yep, i meant exhaust headers...isrperformance.com might still have them on sale for $295/shipped. :)

Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power


lol excuse the newbieness.. :lol: do you mean the intake or Exaust headers? heh I would love to hear how it sounds with the intake silencer off :)

There is no header on an intake. Headers refers to an exhaust piece. :)

Eric

i like the RS that can smoke check the WRX....

thats when N/A is more awesome sounding.

Originally posted by Eric v2.0


There is no header on an intake. Headers refers to an exhaust piece. :)

Eric

:lol: :lol: I should of known that after going to all those drag races with my cousin.

I have a question... what is a Cat back used for? From what I seen and heard it's much louder..

lol looking at Cobb's tuning site I found this..

"STAINLESS STEEL HEADER SYSTEM



The stock Subaru headers are extremely restrictive and clearly built to save costs, not make power. To remedy this design flaw, we offer the Borla Stainless steel headers. These headers feature nice, smooth mandrel bends with a much more effective layout which improves mid and high RPM torque and power. Not only do you gain performance but you also get the “boxer” sound the Subarus are famous for. This will transform the sound of the car under acceleration from a docile purr to a menacing rumble that sounds unlike any 4 cylinder engine you’ve ever heard. Sound quality at idle and cruise is increased only slightly."

Heh going to check out that Borla header then.. isrperformance.com has them for a good price $295

Here is another question.. How easy is it to change it? I mean.. will my hands be cut up from working in tight spaces? or should I be ok? I'm sure the Forester 2.5XS and the 2.2L engine layout is just about the same.

Borla's will bolt up the forester as well, nice and burbly... But you do need something done to catback (which refers to the midpipe and muffler) to hear it.

Oh, and the headers are easy to change, probably very easy with a forester due to the rideheight. Its only 8 bolts to do the swap, but its generally easier to disconnect the midpipe from the cats and take off the headers and cats and reconnect the borla header to the cats while its off the car. Its easier than it sounds.

you know, i used to have a 2.5" tanabe hyper medallion cat-back on my rs and it sounded amazing... a bit on the loud side, but not at all like a lawn mower (translation: not obnoxious). it had a deep drone to it that had a sound like no other.

I'm 100% sure the Forester 2.5XS has the dual port headers.. I don't know about the 2.2L yet.. it seems like they changed to a Dual port a little later in the years..

From what I thought.. All I needed to do was take the bolts out that hold the Headers onto the engine.. and then the ones on the Cat.... and then just bolt on the new ones. is that right?

Took me awhile, but heres a thread on installing borla headers: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=236584

you're in Norwalk SubaruImpreza_Power? i'm right next to Danbury, i'm selling my Borla headers, they are brand new in the box, for the single port 2.2. Installation is fast and easy. You'll want to get new gaskets as well. You might want to think about getting a freer flowing cat as well, otherwise the headers will be pointless. Opening up the exhaust, just to restrict it again....in my opinion, your best bet is opening up the exhaust from the rear forward unless you do it all at once.

Originally posted by Darby
you're in Norwalk SubaruImpreza_Power? i'm right next to Danbury, i'm selling my Borla headers, they are brand new in the box, for the single port 2.2. Installation is fast and easy. You'll want to get new gaskets as well. You might want to think about getting a freer flowing cat as well, otherwise the headers will be pointless. Opening up the exhaust, just to restrict it again....in my opinion, your best bet is opening up the exhaust from the rear forward unless you do it all at once.

I would do it all at once.. But were do you get the gaskets from? Now you said it would be better to open up the exhaust from the rear forward.. So that mean the stromung Dual Tip would be pointless with the Borla headers as well?

Oh and yeah I'm in Norwalk as well.. hey.. I saw a Red 2.2L Sedan last Sunday not far from Toy r us.. I got off one of the Exits to get on I-95 south but the person in the Red 2.2 was getting off at the next exit I think... The license plate ends with "MLM"

Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power


I would do it all at once.. But were do you get the gaskets from? Now you said it would be better to open up the exhaust from the rear forward.. So that mean the stromung Dual Tip would be pointless with the Borla headers as well?

Oh and yeah I'm in Norwalk as well.. hey.. I saw a Red 2.2L Sedan last Sunday not far from Toy r us.. I got off one of the Exits to get on I-95 south but the person in the Red 2.2 was getting off at the next exit I think... The license plate ends with "MLM"

You get the gaskets from Subaru or from a mechanic/exhaust shop (bring in the pipes to get fitted if you don't know what you need).
What I meant by doing it rear forward is if you're piecing your exhaust set-up together over time. To have the exhaust open up right from the headers just to be restricted at the cat and opened again makes no sense really. Adds stress in my mind, spend another $100 and get a high flow cat. Exhaust piping that is all the same size runs better, sounds better, and is more efficient.

With the stromung, are you getting a cat-back (mid-pipe + muffler) or just the muffler?
I put mine in cat-back(+hardened exhaust hangers) 1st, 2 weeks later Cobb's high flow cat, week thereafter -Borla headers. I did it that way so i didn't kill myself financially, you can put it all in at once if you want of course.
"MLM" wasn't me if that's what you're talking about, i've got a red coupe :devil:
-hope that stuff helps you somewhat

Originally posted by Darby


You get the gaskets from Subaru or from a mechanic/exhaust shop (bring in the pipes to get fitted if you don't know what you need).
What I meant by doing it rear forward is if you're piecing your exhaust set-up together over time. To have the exhaust open up right from the headers just to be restricted at the cat and opened again makes no sense really. Adds stress in my mind, spend another $100 and get a high flow cat. Exhaust piping that is all the same size runs better, sounds better, and is more efficient.

With the stromung, are you getting a cat-back (mid-pipe + muffler) or just the muffler?
I put mine in cat-back(+hardened exhaust hangers) 1st, 2 weeks later Cobb's high flow cat, week thereafter -Borla headers. I did it that way so i didn't kill myself financially, you can put it all in at once if you want of course.
"MLM" wasn't me if that's what you're talking about, i've got a red coupe :devil:
-hope that stuff helps you somewhat

Intermediate Pipe is another word for Mid-pipe correct?

I'm looking at the Stromung here.. http://www.isrperformance.com/exhaust.html

So I would need the Headers $295+Rear Muffler Dual Tip Stainless Steel $449.00+Intermediate Pipe, 2.5 inch $159.00 and it should be good and better then the way i was going to do before right?

I can't do all at once I just checked.. a little too high.

oh and yea it was a red Coupe
;)

yeah, mid-pipe=intermediate pipe.

just curious, why are you so gung-ho on Stromung? They're good but pricey...You can get a complete cat-back for the price of just the muffler. I think it'd be in your best interest to shop around, ISR is kind pricey as well plus it'll be shipping from California. You can save money on used parts, my cat-back was purchased used and is as good as can be. -Just trying to save you some cash.
This is what's on mine:
-Kartboy exhaust hangers
-2.2 Borla header
-Cobb High-flow cat
-Brospeed Cat-back (i wanted it to be more quiet than crazy loud like all the rice boys in my town)
-new gaskets
All together it cost me about $750-800

btw, did you get your impreza yet? what'd you go with?

(oh, the reason i keep emphasizing a freer flowing cat is because you'll create a "bottle-neck" with the air flow. You'd be better off just doing the cat-back, then later on upgrade your cat, then do the headers. That'll spread out your purchases making it easier to get the stuff and you'll be able to better feel the gains your car is producing. )

Originally posted by Darby
yeah, mid-pipe=intermediate pipe.

just curious, why are you so gung-ho on Stromung? They're good but pricey...You can get a complete cat-back for the price of just the muffler. I think it'd be in your best interest to shop around, ISR is kind pricey as well plus it'll be shipping from California. You can save money on used parts, my cat-back was purchased used and is as good as can be. -Just trying to save you some cash.
This is what's on mine:
-Kartboy exhaust hangers
-2.2 Borla header
-Cobb High-flow cat
-Brospeed Cat-back (i wanted it to be more quiet than crazy loud like all the rice boys in my town)
-new gaskets
All together it cost me about $750-800

btw, did you get your impreza yet? what'd you go with?

(oh, the reason i keep emphasizing a freer flowing cat is because you'll create a "bottle-neck" with the air flow. You'd be better off just doing the cat-back, then later on upgrade your cat, then do the headers. That'll spread out your purchases making it easier to get the stuff and you'll be able to better feel the gains your car is producing. )

Nope I have not gotten it yet.. If I'm really lucky we could get both cars the same day.. But it's very unlucky that they would have a 5-Speed.. And my mom is trying to make me feel bad about getting the maunal..... We have to sell the house so migh as well get a new car as it's on it's last legs.. I'm just waiting for the people to hand the check over and the whoever person takes the XXX amount of money out to pay the Bill colletors and get them out the way then have the left over money..


Anyway... I don't know why Stromung... I like the Dual tip over the single one.. I don't like the buzzy ricey sound.. I just want a mellow sounding car amplifying the boxer sound at a low rpm :)

5speed = fun :devil:

I found a Website For Subaru Boxer sounds.. with aftermarket Exausts.. the page is in Japanese but most of them are in Mp3 format and Real Media.. I played the one of the Legacy B4.. If I could get the 2.2L to sound like that and without the poping when letting off the throttle that would be great! I see it has a Catback on it..

http://www.kan-gare.com/sound/

It's the 10th one down the page.

here is the link to the file..

http://www.kan-gare.com/sound/yamasan.mp3

Originally posted by Darby
5speed = fun :devil:

I agree with you!

Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power
Anyway... I don't know why Stromung... I like the Dual tip over the single one.. I don't like the buzzy ricey sound.. I just want a mellow sounding car amplifying the boxer sound at a low rpm :)
The Stromung dual tip was my favorite sounding N/A Impreza exhaust, until I heard the magnaflow single tip muffler :p Alot cheaper too, probably around 200-300 for a catback instead of 500 for the stromung catback, and possibly better performance.

Originally posted by Kostamojen

The Stromung dual tip was my favorite sounding N/A Impreza exhaust, until I heard the magnaflow single tip muffler :p Alot cheaper too, probably around 200-300 for a catback instead of 500 for the stromung catback, and possibly better performance.

Need link! :lol:

Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power


Need link! :lol:
No link, just call your local custom muffler shop and ask if they carry magnaflow. The specific muffler type you need is the 2.25" center/offset box, as seen in this thread along with more info about it: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=309006&highlight=magnaflow

I'm curious about this Scoobysport.. Anyone have a link to were I can hear it?

Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power
I'm curious about this Scoobysport.. Anyone have a link to were I can hear it?

Heres a video with sound, open it as WMP file.

http://members.aol.com/toolmantimtaylor/SubaruStuff/SCOOBYSWEET

And I got it off RallyPerformance.com on this page:

http://www.rallyperformance.com/engine.shtml

Very nice sound.

-paK +1

Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power
I played the one of the Legacy B4.. If I could get the 2.2L to sound like that and without the poping when letting off the throttle that would be great! I see it has a Catback on it..

here is the link to the file..

http://www.kan-gare.com/sound/yamasan.mp3



OMG, If my car sounded like that I would soil my pants...that car sounds SOO sweet. Has that nice boxer beat with the exhaling (V8 burble) sound....

I have a stomung on my turbo 2.5rs set up and it quiet. Had to get it modified to be 3". Sounds great not loud not bassy either. I think its about 92 dbs

Originally posted by DDMan




OMG, If my car sounded like that I would soil my pants...that car sounds SOO sweet. Has that nice boxer beat with the exhaling (V8 burble) sound....

Yeah that B4 sounds Great!!

i have this imfamous scoobysport, straite pipe on cat with stock headers. how do i post a sound clip - i got a digicam that can take video w/ sound, somone tech me out-. its loud. but it has this ripping sound to it that reminds me of the WRC car :P

h