Hey I need some advice


My smug friend has a Acura 3.2 CL type-s. WHen I first got my WRX he wouldn't race me, but now he put headers on his car(I'm not supposed to know) along previous lightweight pullies and cold air intake. I've only put a k&n on my rexxie. SO what ya'll think should I be worried or should I just smoke him? any advise on lauching would help as well, I've only had it 2 months and haven't had much practice, cause noone will even look over at stop lights in this one horse town. :D Oh and please don't think I'm street racing we have a private pretty much abandoned strech that we will goto

what kind of Tranny does he have?

Originally posted by Virgil
Hey I need some advice


My smug friend has a Acura 3.2 CL type-s. WHen I first got my WRX he wouldn't race me, but now he put headers on his car(I'm not supposed to know) along previous lightweight pullies and cold air intake. I've only put a k&n on my rexxie. SO what ya'll think should I be worried or should I just smoke him? any advise on lauching would help as well, I've only had it 2 months and haven't had much practice, cause noone will even look over at stop lights in this one horse town. :D Oh and please don't think I'm street racing we have a private pretty much abandoned strech that we will goto

If would spend $129 (www.Turboxs.com)and get a manual boost controller. Set your boost to about 15.5 - 16.0 psi. That will really help performance. With just this 1 mod you shouldn't have much trouble beating him.

If you choose to remain stock practice your launch. Practice revving your WRX to around 4-5k rpms and dropping the clutch. Make sure you can get a tiny bit of wheel spin leaving the line without bogging. If you bogg off the line you will lose the race if your WRX is stock.

Like I said before - get a boost controller. That + a good launch will leave him way behind.

I think his mods give him aroun 290hp.. without better tires/suspension he will have massive traction/tq. steer issues..
I'm assuming this is on an automatic?

Go over to acura-cl.com and read around and see what those mods will put out.. Those dorks were all about the 1/4 mile over there..

He's got an auto plus dropped his car about an inch or so all around, but running cheap kumho tires. I saw on the acura site where some guy with a six speed and same mods ran a 14.6. I think that's still slower than I can run right? :cool:

you will need more than a mbc to beat him from a hway roll...with his mods he will pull in 4th....trust me i know ;)

with an uppipe and turboback i recken things would be different. let us know how it goes.

Oh yeah, and is a dump lauch really the best way to go? It almost seems if I feather the clutch at around 3500 then full drop at 4500 it is faster, or is this just me?(this is all done at full throttle)

Yeah smurf I think he's gonna try some rollin start bull on me and I won't have it. YOu know it's funny I tried to get him to autocross with me but keeps wussin out, something about his tires. I think he just knows all our friends much cheaper cars (mine included)will spank him.

I'm thinking of puttig new spark plugs in before the race and Ideas on which ones?

Rolling starts are the worst. Some loser in a RSX wouldnt race me until after we hit the top of second gear. He takes off and beats me on the top end. Screw that. From now on i am not gonna give rolling starts cuz real men line up at the light.

no way a CL-S has 290hp w/ just headers/intake/pulleys
they dyno stock @ 210-215 he may be pushing 225 hp max.
really dont know since they are all different and u need a dyno.
but if its an auto, get that mbc and u will whip him.

Originally posted by nt5k
I think his mods give him aroun 290hp..

Are you on Crack bro? 290 HP.. no way! it's an N/A car not a Turbo Charged car where you can up the HP numbers BIG time w/ just exhaust.. no no no.. With all those mods it should be closer to about a 5-10 hp gain....

not 30hp...

-Danny
Team Darriiffftaa

Originally posted by Sauceboy01

With all those mods it should be closer to about a 5-10 hp gain....

not 30hp...

-Danny
Team Darriiffftaa

Actually, there is quite a significant gain with headers on the 3.2L motor... Here's Comptech's dyno chart of a CL Type-S with headers;

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dyno/2000CLSplot.pdf

-Mike-

not bad. alot more HP in the hi end 20+ hp but nothing below 4400 rpm. not enough to make 290 to the wheels tho.
like is said he is pushing 220-225 hp. all dynos are different just like all cars are too.
this guy with the CL-S should get on the dyno so we all can see what #'s he is pushing.

supposedly he has been dynoed here and town and he's at 220hp at the wheels. I haven't seen any prove but my friend that told me he got the headers gave me this same bit of info. So still think I should be able to take him?

virgil, are u stock still? manual or auto? wagon or sedan??
dont worry about spark plugs (they are a bish to change)
get that mbc and a good launch and u will win.

I've got a manual sedan with the only engine mod being a k&n air filter. Then filter has given a little more puch in 2nd but seems to narrow the powerban a little requireing me to shift aroun 5800-6200 instead of 6500-6900. It started grinding going into 5th today, only 11,000 miles so I'm going to the dealership to get that checked before we race. I'm not sure if the grinding is a cracked shifter bushing letting me not hit the gate right, or if it's a synchronizer dying. I hope its the bushing but we'll see I guess

My freind has comptech headers + some cat back exhuast(possibly comptech as well) on his CL-typeS 6speed, and when we race from an roll we are pretty even actually, with my car eventually pulling 1/4car halfway through 4th gear.. I'm getting an upipe installed soon so I hope the quicker spool up+ better top end pull will help me beat him straight away from now on.

From an standing start the CL has no chance..
Paul

I'm interested to see how this turns out. I like those 3.2CL's

Eric

DO you have nay mods Paul

Virg. you have pm' but the short answer for everyone else is yes.:)

I'm stock so the race might not be so easy for me

Do the pulled hose mod right before you race. It's the same as a bleedvalve MBC essentially, it's just not controllable. With the stock 1/8th connector, you shoulden't boost over 16 psi. Hope you have a boost gauge.

Thats just an bad idea IMO.. Even if you have the proper gauges or modifications to your wrx to raise the boost pressure to 16psi with the stock turbo, I would definatly not suggest doing it with no control like the pulled hose mod. If your going to do it do it right

I have a TL-S, w/ a full tank of gas, spare tire, etc AND a second passenger I went 15.2 w/ a 2.2-2.3 60'. The Acura's are decent I agree with the comment on the tranny, I have the manu-matic and off the line powerband and tranny SUCKs!! Rev it up to 4K, drop it and him.

Race his butt anyway. MY friend has a Gen2 legend 5spd he begged me to go to Pacific Raceways on a import night. I was the only WRX there, only mod is H and R Lowering springs for track day use. Im not the best shifter and i hate drag racing, i have seen stock wrx's do 14.6's i got a 15.0 with a 92.0 trap. My friends Legend did a 15.7 thats, a 94 legend with a shat load of mods ran a 14.7. The Cl type s is lighter but it basically has the same 3.2 litre motor. Also shifting is key i cant tell you where to do it at but my neighbor is a drag champ for his age w/ a 5.0 mustang 12.3's. He says shift at your tourque peak, which on a stock wrx is approx 5-6,000 rpm's. Anyway, do IT LEAGALLY.

FWIW you should be able to take him. I have repeatedly out run my wife in her CL with my bone stock wagon...and she knows how to drive from her track days with her AWD turbo DSM..

do not dump your clutch. rev to 4.5K and slip it, if you smell clutch then you did it right. the last thing you want to do is break your drivetrain in a stupid race.

Just wanted to say whats up, since i never met anyone else named Virgil, besides myself...LOL. What nationality are you btw, sorry it has nothing to do with the post. Btw...i raced a CL and it was from a roll. It was really damn close, i only pulled like 1 car on him, not sure if he was moded. But i have uppipe and downpipe, so if i would have been stock, he should have whooped me bad.

-Virgil

Sorry to disappoint but my real name isn't Virgil. I just like the name and use it for almost all my aliases. Oh and now I'm having trouble getting my friend to race. If he takes to long he won't stand a chance cause I'm getting a TXS unichip in a few weeks. ;)

this kid i know has a type s. and he though that an axle back exhaust, header, sri, and a vafc would make 60+ whp on his car.
i am not on to talk sh&* but after weeks of hearing this idiot talk. i told him that he should put his money where his mouth is. to make a long story short he got smoked by what he called an "inferior car" with just a turbo back. in short run him. some one has got to put the smack down on these :disco:

if hes auto you should be ok, stick would be closer, i would launch high, but i guess your just going to have to race him and find out, trust me he dosnt have that much hp, i remeber when i had my accord v6 and got the headers and Comptech claimed up to 30 to 40 more hp, i only got 10hp..goodluck.

Shift somewhere between 6500 and 6800. If you're running the quarter, you'll run up to redline or a little past it in 3rd probably. Don't waste time grabbing forth, just hold 3rd gear.