G'day

We've just finalised design and preoduction spec for the new heavy duty rear alloy swaybar links for early Legacy, Impreza WRX and STi (finally!!).

New part number KLC26 is a kit of 2 extruded alloy links with low compliance engineered grade polyurethane bushes. These have been specifically designed for serious use including oversize swaybars while still remaining relatively quiet from an NVH point of view.

To some degree it is easy to make a direct connection between swaybar and chassis but that must be at the expense of NVH and drivability. Unlike links with spherical (metal) bearings or some bush designs, the Whiteline links are specifically designed to pivot through extreme angles WHILE staying relatively quiet when driven on the road. They are very direct in a pire vertical load but allow a lot of lateral compliance.

Our links are also the normal stock length which is very important for correct swaybar operation. Some shorter designs we have seen actually permit the swaybar to invert the links on full extension which is potentially catastrophic unless the suspension has been travel limited.

The bad new is that we are a few weeks away from delivery, the good news is that you can pre-order now including an "upgrade" option for current Whiteline customers. The full retail price for KLC26 is A$131.81 (approx US$79 plus freight) but customers with our other steel type links (part number KLC19) can upgrade to the new product for only A$79 (approx US$48 plus freight). As a Whiteline supporter, we want to reward you for your support and give you a chance to upgrade to something more serious before the product hits the market proper.

This special offer is only available to Whiteline customers direct through Whiteline or through its participating dealers. To qualify, you need to provide proof of purchase of part number KLC19 (steel link version) to Whiteline or participating dealers. (Dealers need to pass on same to Whiteline). You can then order KLC26UG for the special upgrade price of US$48 (approx plus freight). If using our WebStore, simply scan your original invoice or reciept and email to us or alternatively you can fax us on 61-2-9820 2500 with a copy.

I wish we could show you a picture of the finished part but unfortunately we're still getiing pictures done. What we can tell you is that the alloy will be gold anodised with yellow poly bushes at each end, we like it.

Thanks for all your support to date and we look forward to announcing stock availability very soon. In the meantime, we suggest you order ahead if you want to make sure you're one of the first.

Best regards

Jim Gurieff
jimg@whiteline.com.au

Whiteline Automotive - Flatout
See us at www.whiteline.com.au

Sounds good! Awaiting pics!

Originally posted by Whiteline
G'day

This special offer is only available to Whiteline customers direct through Whiteline or through its participating dealers. To qualify, you need to provide proof of purchase of part number KLC19 (steel link version) to Whiteline or participating dealers. (Dealers need to pass on same to Whiteline). You can then order KLC26UG for the special upgrade price of US$48 (approx plus freight). If using our WebStore, simply scan your original invoice or reciept and email to us or alternatively you can fax us on 61-2-9820 2500 with a copy.



I'm not sure about the rest of you folks, but the rear endlinks were one of my first mods almost two years ago. I think I'd be hard-pressed to find this receipt....if I ever got one to begin with.

I wish there were some other way to prove that we were existing customers. Short of taking pictures under our cars.

Does anyone have another suggestion to proving they are currently using the steel endlinks?

mike (hopefully upgrading to KLC26)

Originally posted by newscooby
Does anyone have another suggestion to proving they are currently using the steel endlinks?Perhaps a massive endlink trade-in? :)

This is great news BTW, and competitive pricing!

lb
www.trancelab.com

So... does owning a Whiteline front strut tower brace and a rear adjustable swaybar count me as a customer?

Pleeeeeease? :)



Awaiting pictures as well. I think most of us know which droplinks you're comparing these with, and I'm intrigued by your argument about shorter ones causing problems. Hmm.

-S2-

I'm interested in this too!

I may even have my receipt sitting around too.

Please keep us informed on the arrival date of these endlinks. :D

Edvig

Waiting anxiously

Found my receipt! hehe :D
I don't see an 'upgrade' option for klc26 in the webstore though? :confused:

G'day everyone,

First let me say that we're delighted with the positive response, thanks for your support.

newscooby, I take your point re reciepts and proof of purchase but we have to find some sort of compromise to be fair to everyone. I guess we're a little worried about someone getiing a set for half price if they've never purchased our other link set.

Suggest its easier to sort this out on a case by case basis if you havent got the proof of puchase. Just contact us direct off list if you havent got the info and we'll try to work something out together.

bemani, unfortunately the WebStore link to that part number was broken (forgive the bad pun!), its now fixed.

Siper2, we try to avoid talking about competitors specifically and we definitely do not want to imply that someone elses product is substandard. The point re link length is particularly important for adjustable aftermarket swaybars that use a shorter effective arm length. We have a sample link from another manufacturer that is 20 mm shorter between the hole centres which is the potential problem unless other steps have been taken to limit the suspension extension travel. We'll try to take a picture and post to explain what we mean.

As for a product picture, I'll endeavour to post something within the week.

Best regards

Jim Gurieff
Whiteline

dam, that sucks, i just ordered my front and rear end link. that doesn't make sense for me to buy another one without using these first.

unfortunately the WebStore link to that part number was broken

I thought this new design was to PREVENT broken links?
Should we take that as a bad sign?:rolleyes: :lol:
Sorry man lol I could NOT resist

I dont think I have my reciept, could I just email you a picture of my face under my car next to the links?(seriously)
If we dont have a receipt are we just screwed? I hope not, as that looks like a MUCH more solid design.

Jim,

Don't worry about naming names, I'm not looking for you to do that, I just know which parts you're talking about. *shrug* There aren't a lot of offerings on the board insofar as solid rear endlinks. :) A few, but not many.

I'm just interested in tracking this thread and reading a few reviews. Definitely looks like a better design than your old ones.

Hey, um... did you guys ever come to any conclusion over what happened with the GC rear adjustable swaybar issue? The clunking occurrence. I spoke with someone at your company a while back about it, I think it's an issue that's been buried in the passing of time but I've still got the problem and I'd like to solve it rather than buy another bar.

Anyway, please Email me if you get the chance. Use the Email link on my profile list. :)

-Chris

G'day everyone,

Davenow, I know I set myself up with the "broken link" pun and no, it shouldnt be taken as a bad sign :-)

Seriously though, I want to make sure that people understand that this new kit is offered in addition to our existing steel KLC19 part number, not as a replacement.

The original KLC19 and KLC20 steel version kist were released over 4 years ago as a market first in repsonse to customer demand for less compliant links. With out knowing market potential etc, they were designed to a price point and retailed for around US$43 equivalent.

With the dramatic increase in demand for WRX performance products and customer expectations with oversize bars, many other brands entered the market with heavier and much more expensive solutions. Also, some difficulties with materials lead to some failures of the steel links when faced with serious use hence our decision to offer a heavier alternative. However, the price is quite a bit higher at approx US$79 or nealy double the price of the steel version.

As mentioned earlier, if you can't find a receipt, contact us off list directly and we'll work something out.

Siper2, have a look at the following thread "NASIOC Forums > NASIOC Other Subarus > Legacy Forum > Sway bar end link disconnected" (couldnt get a direct link to paste) and you'll see a picture of various links inclduing the shorter one we have seen.

I'm not sure about the swaybar noise issue but Bob our swaybar expert is the man you need to talk to. Can I suggest you contact him directly on bob@whiteline.com.au and he'll take care of it for you and make sure its fixed.

All the best

Jim
Whiteline Automoitve

PS. I didnt actually mean to attach that last picture as its a screen shot from our CAD program. It was sent to me by the engineers but it wasnt really meant for posting..... oops. Anyway, it looks a lot better than that.

Hi everyone,

Finally have a picture of the new KLC26 links.

Hope you like them;)

Best regards

Jim
Whiteline

Woohoo! Looks great. I like the smooth, rounded edges, no stress risers there. I am, however concerned with the apparent "thinness" around the bushing. Are they that thin all the way through or does the link thicken up in the middle somewhere?

Hi Arnie,

Its a little hard to tell from the picture but the bushes are tapered inward. Hence your seeing the outer only, the centre section is significantly thicker.

This design allows for maximum articulation while working.

Cheers
Jim
Whiteline

Are these shipping yet Jim? I am in need of some new links and am a former whiteline link owner.

The new links are just starting to come out of production now and will be shipping shortly.

We are actually taking orders now for distributors and direct retail customers via our exclusive upgrade offer. You can read more about it at the beginning of this thread.

Let me know if we can help further.

Cheers
Jim

Whiteline

Good to hear about the material in the middle. I really like the idea of allowing some articulation of the bushing upon force from the swaybar. I've always had concerns about bushing designs that have no movement whatsover. It seems like these have to apply stresses elsewhere that might not be designed to handle it.

These really do look great.

Looks good, Jim. :) Job well done by the Aussies!

Can't wait to read some reviews, particularly in comparison with Cusco/Kartboy/Rev-Lab/etc. pieces. Have to make my decision which set to buy, when I have the money. :D

-Chris

G'day Colin,

Thanks for the vote of confidence :)

I wouldnt like to suggest that our links are far superiori to other brands but we have had the luxury of seeing other designs come first. This helped us identify some issues that were of concern to us and we worked out out design accordingly.

I think there would be very little difference in meaningfull performance between the various designs in a static direct load test. That is, applying same vertical load to each link and measuring total defelction would yield a negligible difference. However, its the result "in application" that we think we have some better features than some other designs. The degreee of articulation as the suspension works thru its arc, the standard length not resulting in potential bar inversion etc.

Anyway, we'll let people be the judge as you say. in the meantime, I managed to get a quick picture of the KLC26 version on P-Rex II before it was driven off the hoist and through the mud etc :lol:

Best regards

Jim Gurieff
Whiteline

A little off topic but I have been waiting for thr 2002 wrx sedan coilovers to complete my whiteline suspention fetish:D . Any way great job on the suspention.

mrtrex,

I'm really pleased to hear about your support, it's our job very satisfying.

If you look closely at the previous picture you can just make out the bottom of the latest prototype Whiteline coil-overs fitted for long term test on P-Rex II ;)

You can get a better view in this picture.

Best

Jim
Whiteline

Hi Jim,

What will be your policy be for those of us who can't find their original receipt? I still have the cardboard part of the original package as well as the instructions.

These look great, please let me know if I can take advantage of your upgrade price without my original receipt.

Thanks! :D

Edvig

G'day Edvig

Understand your problem, I'll just quote what we mentioned in an earlier reply;

"newscooby, I take your point re reciepts and proof of purchase but we have to find some sort of compromise to be fair to everyone. I guess we're a little worried about someone getiing a set for half price if they've never purchased our other link set.

Suggest its easier to sort this out on a case by case basis if you havent got the proof of puchase. Just contact us direct off list if you havent got the info and we'll try to work something out together."

We 've already had some people contact us about this and we've sorted them out satisfactorily, I think .:)

Cheers
Jim Gurieff

Whiteline
support@whiteline.com.au

Cool pics. Are those what's called trailing arms, that are replaced by Whiteline aftermarket versions in those pics? They look pretty sweet. :) How much?

-Chris

Originally posted by Siper2
Cool pics. Are those what's called trailing arms, that are replaced by Whiteline aftermarket versions in those pics? They look pretty sweet. :) How much?

-Chris


chris check out this link for more info:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=314582&highlight=whiteline

Hey Chris,

I don't wish to appear pedantic but they're really "control" arms. The long arm going from the wheel hub forward to the body is actually a trailing arm because it "trails" behind from a point.

Generally speaking, any suspension arm that locates laterally across the vehicle can be called a "control" arm.

You can download a PDF brochure version about the product at http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bulletins/072_kta.pdf.

Cheers
Jim Gurieff

Whiteline

Is your fax down or what? I tried to fax the receipt a few times, last night at midnight, today at noon, its always busy?

Hi bemani,

Thats strange about the fax, we're getting faxes all day. Just check the number you are dialling.

61-2-9820 2500

61 = country code
2 = area code
9820 2500 = fax number

Cheers

Jim Gurieff
Whiteline

Jim,

Don't worry about the excessive detail. :)
That's what I was looking for!

(I'm rather in my infantile stages of mechanical knowledge.)

Thank you-
Chris

Jim,

I sent you an email about the receipt last week, can you get back to me when you can please?

Hi Bemani,

I replied to you directly on the 24th, have sent another copy just now. Irrespective, we got your order and its being processed.

Cheers
Jim
Whiteline

will they fit GC chasis? (presuming yes)

fronts be available any time? or even being made?

I would like to purchase a set. what are your payment methods?

found my invoice and origional packaging !:D

Originally posted by Whiteline


Seriously though, I want to make sure that people understand that this new kit is offered in addition to our existing steel KLC19 part number, not as a replacement.



So are these used "in addition" with the klc19, or do would i take them off and just use the klc26? and if i just use the klc26, are they any better than the klc19(besides looks)? and if the klc19 are no longer used, do we send them back to you?

one would assume that you would use 1 or the other, but i just want to make sure!

StarDogChampion - these new links are "replacement" parts. The steel links are still being offered as a lower cost alternative and are recommended for the smaller diameter bars( you can, of course, use these on smaller bars too!). For those running the big bars (22-24mm and up) these new aluminum links are recommended. You would not be using them "tandem" with both sets of links on the bar at the same time! What to do with the old links? Sell them to some one who wants to try out the difference endlinks can make for cheap!

Originally posted by trojan9x
will they fit GC chasis? (presuming yes)

fronts be available any time? or even being made?

I would like to purchase a set. what are your payment methods?

Bump for the question on the fitment for GC8.

Andy

You all may want to try e-mailing Jim as he responds to those better. He'll usually answer them in the late evening US time. Worked a lot better for me and I've got my set coming :)

Originally posted by au112


Bump for the question on the fitment for GC8.

Andy

these will fit a GC8! they are direct replacements/alternatives for the existing steel versions so fitment should be no problem. don't know about the fronts. I doubt there is a real need for them as the rears are the links that get the most abuse/stress. but it would be nice as an aesthetic gesture to make a set for the front. These links, according to Jim, are not any stiffer than the steel but they are stronger. longeveity with a big bar was one of the key reasons for this part.

Hey Andy,

Sorry for delay in getting back to you.

These links suit all GC-GD-GF series chassis.

Fronts are same price, part number is KLC30 and are due for release at the end of April. Similar look and design as rear.

if you choose to order through our WebStore, we accept direct deposit in Australian $'s or Visa, Mastercard, American Express.

As Arnie has already mentioned, the KLC26 kits is designed as a more expensive option that compliments our exisitng KLC19 steel link version.

The newer kit is no more rigid than the KLC19 steel links but there will be more direct connection resulting from the bush housing. Also, the later KLC26 alloy version is designed for much heavier swaybars.

All the best
Jim Gurieff

Whiteline

Hi-

When are you going to have something for the BE/BH crowd? They look good to me.

Also, I went to your site to look up bar/link/mount products for my car. Am I right in sayint that all that is available for my car (from Whiteline) are swaybars? BSR12, BSR12X, and BSRXZ. There was not a note next to those bars indicating that a 'link conversion kit' or HD mounts were available with those bars. Is that correct?

Thanks,

Jay

I just ordered the rears through your webstore and am looking forward to testing them out. :D

Hi Jay,

The current generation Subaru Legacy, BE/BH, has a multi-link rear suspension configuration, and uses different components to that of an Impreza.
Rear sway bar is bolted directly onto the cross-member - so heavy duty brackets are not applicable. Factory rear sway bar end links are metal-ball joint type, so there's no need to replace them either.
Front factory sway bar end links are either plastic/rubber bush type or metal-ball joint type, depending on model and country. For the former, we have KLC19 (steel) or KLC30 (alloy - soon to be released).

Wojtek Rogulski
Whiteline.

Originally posted by Whiteline
G'day

The full retail price for KLC26 is A$131.81 (approx US$79 plus freight) but customers with our other steel type links (part number KLC19) can upgrade to the new product for only A$79 (approx US$48 plus freight). As a Whiteline supporter, we want to reward you for your support and give you a chance to upgrade to something more serious before the product hits the market proper.

This special offer is only available to Whiteline customers direct through Whiteline or through its participating dealers. To qualify, you need to provide proof of purchase of part number KLC19 (steel link version) to Whiteline or participating dealers. (Dealers need to pass on same to Whiteline). You can then order KLC26UG for the special upgrade price of US$48 (approx plus freight). If using our WebStore, simply scan your original invoice or reciept and email to us or alternatively you can fax us on 61-2-9820 2500 with a copy.

I wish we could show you a picture of the finished part but unfortunately we're still getiing pictures done. What we can tell you is that the alloy will be gold anodised with yellow poly bushes at each end, we like it.

Thanks for all your support to date and we look forward to announcing stock availability very soon. In the meantime, we suggest you order ahead if you want to make sure you're one of the first.

Best regards

Jim Gurieff
jimg@whiteline.com.au

Whiteline Automotive - Flatout
See us at www.whiteline.com.au I purchased both the front steel & rear steel ones from PDM-Racing out of Canada. What do I need to do to get the upgrade option rolling? :D

Thanks - Jon

hi jim
as i recall, some changed to STi control arms because of the harder bushings. your sure looks beefy, but what grade (duro?) poly bushing is being use? and thru your research, can you guess on what grade the stock bushing is?


btw, what shocks are used on your suspension package? the pdf stated you use koni and/or bilstein and/or others...

thanks
Terence

So, when can the rest of the general public, whom have never owned a set of aftermarket endlinks, order these from your site? I'm upgrading my swaybars next weekend and would like to get a set of these and HD mounts to complete the upgrade.......Can you please advise?

Thanks in advance for your help!!

Bill

Originally posted by ResQDawg3
So, when can the rest of the general public, whom have never owned a set of aftermarket endlinks, order these from your site? I'm upgrading my swaybars next weekend and would like to get a set of these and HD mounts to complete the upgrade.......Can you please advise?


I believe you can preorder them now through Whiteline's site, even if you are not doing the previous-owner-upgrade-deal, you'll just be paying full price (still a great deal). Go to Whiteline.com.au, and choose Web Store, then search for the endlinks (part #KLC26).

I did, and the only option it was giving me was for the Previous owner upgrade package. Thanks for the help though!:D

EDIT: N/M I found it! YESSS!!!

Originally posted by ResQDawg3
I did, and the only option it was giving me was for the Previous owner upgrade package. Thanks for the help though!:D

Hmm, that's strange. I saw both options - the full price and the upgrade deal.

So if I order now, how long will it be before they ship? Are the full price ones ready to ship yet?

Originally posted by ResQDawg3
So if I order now, how long will it be before they ship? Are the full price ones ready to ship yet?

I doubt they'd be ready for your install next weekend! I think they are still in production but we should be seeing stuff in the next few weeks. I can't wait to get mine!

G'day everyone.

Part number KLC26 is shipping within the next week. KLC26UG is the upgrade version of the product but its the same basic thing.

Both have been available for order for the last few weeks. Like Arnie mentioned, I don't think you would get them in time for the next weekend though.

Cheers
Jim Gurieff

Whiteline

Originally posted by Whiteline
G'day everyone.
Part number KLC26 is shipping within the next week.
Good evening to you, sir. Thanks for the shipping news, Jim. :)

--
0==WW==0
"…axles of evil…" - george w. bush

That's cool though....I just checked our SCCA Schedule and our next race isn't till the middle of May. So that should be plenty of time to get them here by then, and get them on the car.....I'll place my order today! Thanks Jim!!!

EDIT: Alrighty, order placed!

My set arrived yesterday, and they look great! Thanks, Jim! I'm grateful for the upgrade offer, but even at full price they are a bargain! Will report back once I have them installed.

me too! they look great. though they won't provide any huge difference to the standard links, performance wise, its nice to have the peace of mind that they won't break. Plus its some nice gold bling!:disco:

Do you guys know when yours shipped out? Just getting an idea of when to expect mine. I picked the slowest shipping method, but hoping they will get here sooner :)

just placed an order ... and i'd like to know how long i should expect to be waiting for these! can't wait!:D

Hi everyone,

Glad you like the look of them Cindy.

Hank3, I know we shipped a set to Tal. Florida on 4th April.

ResQDawg3, another set went to Jacksonville, AR, 72076 on the same day.

Not sure if these match your aliases but.... ;)

A quantity of these was also shipped to PDM in Canada last week.

Cheers
Jim

Whiteline

Hi Jim,

Did you receive my fax last week? Any idea when I'll get them?
Can't wait for my new endlinks! :D

Thanks, Edvig

SUUUUEEEEEETTTT!!! :) If they get here in time, I'll have something constructive to do this weekend :lol:

Yep! I got them! They look awesome! The thing that surprised me the most was how fast they got here....It was really, REALLY fast. They got here in something like 3 days! Killer service guys! Killer service!

got mine in and am looking forward to putting them on :D

Placed online order for the KLC26 rear swatbar links 01-Apr-2003. Received them today 17-Apr, but I've been out of town since last Sunday 13-Apr, so they might have arrived on 14-Apr. Folks, just figure on two weeks for shipments to CA by mail, which I consider just fine considering cost for standard shipping.

If I have the time, I'll put 'em on today. :)

--
0==WW==0
"…axles of evil…" - george w. bush

I ordered way before April, and I still don't have them. :(

Originally posted by bemani
I ordered way before April, and I still don't have them. :(
Is this the reason you're not going to Thunderhill? If so, PM me.

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0==WW==0
"…axles of evil…" - george w. bush

they were super easy to install. should take 20 minutes max.

Originally posted by trojan9x
they were super easy to install. should take 20 minutes max.
I put the KLC26s in the other day. No problems other than making sure to put a nice coat of the included grease on the metal contact surfaces, but not on the threaded sections (the nylon lock nuts work best on bare metal). I'd better re-check the fasteners today.

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0==WW==0
"…axles of evil…" - george w. bush

Got mine this past Friday and installed it this evening with the great assistance of Sparks and djerickd. They look way beefy and easy to install. Great product Jim!!! Kudos to you and your wonderful staff for the great line of communication and for shipping this to me in a timely manner - especially way over from Aussie land :)

Jim,

I have not heard from you since I faxed you my order two weeks ago. :confused: :(

I've posted here and emailed you as well.

Please let me know what the status of my order is. You have not charged my credit card yet. Did my fax come in ok?

Thank you, Edvig

G'day everyone,

Apologies for delay in repsonding but still trying to cathc up after the Easter break.

Edvig, I wish I could respond with more detail but we can't trace NASIOC aliases to real people and real orders. You need to contact us directly with some reference to your order so we can promptly follow up and reply. There simply isnt enough information here. Please contact sales@whiteline.com.au and we'll be able to tell you the status ASAP.

Bemani, if you still dont have yours, please also follow same advice and we'll get right on to it.

Thanks everyone else for the great feedback. We like to think that being on the other side of the world is not seen as a deterrent. Glad to see its working out.

Best regards
Jim

Whiteline

Hi Jim,

Thanks for getting back to me via email. :D

I'm looking forward to getting my endlinks soon! :cool:

Edvig

any word on when the fronts will be available? and also, can you get me the part number for the adjustable rear?
20-22-24mm?

thanks

Hi there,

trojan9x, the front link part number is KLC30. It will be available for shipping in 3-4 weeks.

It has a similar style and look to the KLC26 rear link though is obvioulsy shaped to suit the front.

As for adjustable rear swaybars;

GC series (MY94-00) use part # BSR20XZ

GD series (MY01 0n) use part # BSR33Z

Cheers
Jim

Whiteline

Thanks for following up, Jim. I got the endlinks.

thanks

ohh, one more. what is part number for the swaybar brackets (don't know exactly what they are called) front and back? If I'm going to do it all, may as well do it right.

Jim-
I emailed you yesterday asking for an order status ... I placed an order for end links a little over a week ago and was just wondering if you could tell me where they are.

Thanks!
Brian Liu

Hi all,

trojan9x, not sure what what bracket you are referring to? We have heavy duty rear mounting brackets only. Use part number KBR20-(Size). That is, for 22mm bar quote KBR20-22 but also available in 18-20-24 mm.

Brian, i can't find any orders in place or shipped for a "Brian Liu". Please understand that we are a manufacturer and its hard to follow up without additional references, order number, address?

Please contact directly with further details and we'll follow up ASAP.

Best

Jim
Whiteline

which of the mount kits would I use for the adjustable 20-24mm rear swaybar (BSR20XZ)?

How do these endlinks compare to the Noltec ones? Just out of curiousity. I'm sure you guys have tested those in the past, right?

Thanks,

Chris

G'day,


trojan9x, you'll need part # KBR20-22 to suit the BSR20XZ as it is a 22mm bar.

Chris, it may surprise you but we did not feel the need to test the brand of links you mentioned but we are well aware of the design and how it would function.

Its our policy not to comment on other manufacturer's product. I will say that we beleive our particular bush design allow the link to pivot through extreme angles WHILE staying relatively quiet when driven on the road.

This is due to the tappered shape of the bush and its relationship with the link or bush housing. As a result they are also very direct in a pure vertical load but allow a lot of lateral compliance making them ideal for road/sport use.

Hope that helps.

Cheers
Jim

Whiteline

is there no front swaybar mount kit?

Nope, no front sway bar mount kit. I suspect that the front does not receive the extreme loading that the rear gets so the stock mount might be adequate. but that's just my hobby theory.;)

good deal, here is what I'm going to be upgrading

KLC26 (heavy duty rear endlinks)- already installed
KLC30 (heavy duty front endlinks)- waiting until they are available for order
BSR20XZ (adj. 20-24mm rear sway)- to order soon
BSF20Z (adj. 20-24mm front sway)-to order soon
KBR20-22 (heavy duty rear sway mount kit)- to order soon

I can't wait to test them all together.

I went a very similar route with my wagon. 22mm front, 20-24mm rear, comfort ALK, links all around and HD rear mount. The car handled so much better but was still daily driver compliant with the stock suspension. Its a great starting point for improving the basic package while not breaking the bank.

i already have a 20mm rear on now and the STi Type RA suspension (which will be upgraded to coilovers when my car is paid off) so this will just be for some fine tuning until then.

Ahh, nice setup. Yeah the adjustability of the bars will help you out for fine tuning at different tracks etc. Plus, with the HD mounts and the HD ALu rear/front links, you will be all shored up for long term durability.

Maybe by then Whiteline will release their coilovers! Muahhahah!

Jim,
How's the New STI handling pack coming along. If possible could you tell me if the any of the parts from the USDM 2002 WRX handling pack can be used on the STI as I have that on my car.

I 'm the guy who sent you STI spec sheets and pics from Canada.

Thanks

Jim,
How's the New STI handling pack coming along. If possible could you tell me if any of the parts from the USDM 2002 WRX handling pack can be used on the STI as I have that on my car.

I 'm the guy who sent you STI spec sheets and pics from Canada.

Thanks

G'day,

"Wombat", its going pretty well and I expect we'll be able to publish something pretty soon. In general, most of the Handling Pack parts are the same as the MY02 except for the rear swaybar bushes.

Have you joined our mail list? It might be an idea as it ensures fastest update of new parts etc.

"trojan9x", Arnie's right, we don't have a heavy duty front mount as it is simply a conventional saddle arrangement. The rear mounts however are an upgrade target because of the design of the mount support bridge which flexes and breaks.

Cheers
Jim

Whiteline

Jim,

I was also wondering about the status of my order. It was for the rear endlink upgrades, part no. KL265UG. The order was placed on April 15 and the order no. is 77672.

It is being shipped to Charlotte, NC via the cheaper method possible. Which may explain why I haven't seen it....:(

At any rate, I was just wondering if it's in transit or if I'm just being impatient.

thanks
mike

part number KSUB02SX

Is this a complete coilover suspension or a kit that you would have to modify your current setup to use?

G'day,

Mike, we posted your order on the 28th April, the latest batch just came in from the factory. I'd expect you'd see it in a couple of weeks yet :(

trojan9x, part number KSUB02SX is The Works package for a MY01 series sedan. The kit includes the Handling and Sports packs meaning bars, alignment aids, springs and shocks. The springs are conventional lowered road type and shocks utilise an adjustable insert conversion.

The adjustable coil-over kit part number is 1K4006 and will be available for release within the next 4-6 weeks.

Cheers
Jim

Whiteline

Originally posted by WL Flatout


The adjustable coil-over kit part number is 1K4006 and will be available for release within the next 4-6 weeks.



GC or GD series chasis?

Jim ...
Trying again to find out the status of my order ... placed 4/17, #77860, sent to Merritt Island, FL, via the slower method.

Thanks-
Brian

Hi everyone,

My name is Jackie. Jim has asked me to introduce myself to you as I work in Customer Service and I look after the Whiteline Web Store orders.

Brian,

It seems that we have experienced server problems (in mid April which has now all been taken care of) and we have now located your order. We will be dispatching your order tonight, and because of your continued patience we will send it to you via express door-to-door courier service with no additional charge. Hope that’s OK. You should receive your order within 4 to 5 days.
Our apologies for the delay.

Regards
Jackie

wowser dowser!
thanks for the reply and thanks for the expedited shipping!

thumbs up to Whiteline for excellent customer service!:D

Originally posted by trojan9x


GC or GD series chasis?

So Jackie could you simplify it for me, what is the quickest way to get a set of these endlinks? I dont have the older style WL endlinks. I hope that doesnt get me on a 2year waiting list:p

ss

Jackie-
Just wanted to say thanks again for sending the endlinks the expedited method ... took 3 days (including the weekend!) to get from Australia to Florida. I'm impressed! Thumbs up for WL's customer service.:D

SS-
I suppose that gives you an idea of how quickly they can get here ... you'll have to ask Jackie how much that shipping costs, though!:)

Hi everyone,

Trojan9x, the adjustable coil-over kit (part number 1K4006) only suits the GD but the next adjustable coil-over kit that we develop will be for the GC.


Subysouth, if you are to order a KLC26 from us and choose freight by courier, we currently have stock available so you would receive the part in approximately 3 to 7 working days. You do not have to be an existing endlink customer to purchase this or any part from us, only to take advantage of the upgrade offer that we have made available (Quote # KLC26UG to purchase the upgrade).

Bliu, appreciate the kind words.

Regards
Jackie
:)

any word on the coilover kit for the GC?

I noticed parts 1K4006 for WRX MY01 (GD)
what is part number 1K4004? just says WRX (GC chasis maybe?)

*edit*

looking at this (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/fact_sheets/ck_wrx94.pdf) it looks like it's for the GC. Now my question is, is it your struts and springs or DMS that makes them for you?

Is this offer still available??? Just picked up my STI last week, and got my Whiteline bars and endlinks off my Legacy GT before tradiing it in. The Old endlinks were super!

Do you have adjustable rear sway bars for the US STI yet?? Tower braces?

Thanks
John

G'day everyone,

trojan9x, the 1K4004 part number is to suit the GC series and is in the first batch scheduled for delivery in October.

We used to colaborate with DMS in 2001/2 but we had a disagreement in design fundamentals that saw us go our own way in early 2002. We are currently finalising the development of a whole new range manufactured for us to our specification.

The new range will be a mixture of designs and configuration depending on our view as to what would be the optimum solution for each application. For example, the GC and GD kits utilise a mono-tube design but is NOT inverted like the other brands. Inverted design we think are largely marketing driven with people expecting their road car to have the same components as a rally car.

Inverted mono-tubes are more rigid and this is quite important for long suspension travel and off road use but it has its own problems. Stiction, excessive friction, low tolerance for misalignment, greater wear and the need for regular maintenance are just some of the negatives that we feel are not out weighed by the positives for road use or even tarmac race use. With normal or tarmac use and relatively short travel dampers, finesse is much more important and this is often losyt with inverted mono-tubes unless they are in tip-toip service or have been designed for road use.

Our system uses a true 40 mm ID tube and piston, not a nominal "40 mm" design that actually uses a 40mm outer shaft less a 2mm wall delivering a 36mm piston. The non-inverted design means we can also deliver "under-bonnet" shock adjustment and keep these fairly senstive components out of the way of snow, sludge, road grime and the corrosive effects of winter salt.

We do not use a lock ring for the spring height adjustment so you don't need 2x C spanners, just a screwdriver and an Allen key. The units will be sold with a "local" North American warranty so our service centre will be able to modify valving and even deliver a graphed report showing you exactly what's been done with a before and after comparison. For race use, this means we can service and repair these units locally with out having to ship them half way round the world while your car rests on blocks. And in the event that there is a problem (touch wood), we can fix it, quickly and in a manner people have come to expect of us ;), I hope.

John, the end link upgrade offer is still available for anyone that has bought the steel end links and would like to upgrade to the alloy type. We even have a front/rear car kit now. Part number KLC31 contains both the front AND links and at a cheaper price.

I'm pretty sure we have the adjustable rear bars as its mainly a bush change. The bars are actually identical and so are the tower braces I believe.

Apologies for delay in replying but I hope that answer everything.

Best

Jim Gurieff

Whiteline

thanks for the update, I hope I see a new thread about these soon here in the forum. It will be good to have another option for our car.

will it have dampening adjustability?
any word on available spring rates?

thanks again
tom

Hi Tom,

Yes, they are spring height AND damper rate adjustable. The point is that we adjust damper rate from the top, via an adjuster knob under the bonnet.

Available spring rates are 275lb front and 225lb rear to begin with but we will be looking at adding options down the track.

Best

Jim

Whiteline

Hi Jim,

how will the rears adjust? From the bottom or the top? will you have a set a t SEMA for us folks to look at? Are these rebound and compression independently adjustable or just rebound or what?

Arnie

G'day Arnie,

The rears are also top adjustable which is a little difficult with the seat back in but we are looking at a flexible extention option that will allow adjustment from within the trunk.

We expect to have stock in the US and at SEMA in early November ready to ship.

Adjustment is to both rebound and bump but through a very precise proportional formula. As it stands, we are very careful with the amount of high speed bump valving to minimise unwanted NVH while still providing transient weight transfer control.

Best

Jim

Whiteline

That remote extension for the rear sounds great. Yeah, it would be nice if the Sedan folk would not have to remove their rear seats in order to adjust the rear damping. plus its a great idea to keep all the adjusters out of the nasty road crud. Nothing worse than finding the little protective condom missing on the tiny adjuster and that its now completely siezed! Can't wait to see more!