I have a GREAT idea.

Subie Gal.........why don't you come out with a swimsuit calendar and sell it to get funds for the rallying???

I know that I would buy one:lol: Hell, I'm sure that alot of the guys/girls here would dig in their pockets to get one.

Just let me know if you need photo shoot ideas!!! I think there should be a Subaru in the background of every pic.

I think the real question is: Who would want to see Subie Gal in a swimsuit? ;)






-Matt

IBTO :p

Originally posted by Cobreth
I think the real question is: Who would want to see Subie Gal in a swimsuit? ;)






-Matt its not who would wanna see her in one, its who WOULDN'T wanna see her in one;):D

Matt

Eric? Your thoughts?


Oh, I forgot. He's working. :p

That's what I just said, Matt. :confused:









-Matt

Originally posted by SubEd
Eric? Your thoughts?


Oh, I forgot. He's working. :p :lol: :lol:

Matt

Originally posted by Cobreth
That's what I just said, Matt. :confused:









-Matt same difference, Matt...:p

Matt

Originally posted by SubEd
Eric? Your thoughts?[/size]

Burn!

Maybe Subie Gal could work out a deal with Sparco to model all their latest sexy safety equipment ;)

And, if that's a success, we could start a "Men of NASIOC" calendar. Who's with me? I'm sure the four or five women on here would all buy one...

-tim

been there, DID that
(2 times, last night even!)
:)
what?! I'm tellin teh truth, she will tell u so
:)
keith

Originally posted by TimStevens

I'm sure the four or five women on here would all buy one...


:lol: I'm sure after that calender there would only be one or two women left here :lol:

Mike
http://kanedasrealm.net

ooh! i'd buy one. i gots ta see teh subie gal's belly at teh LSPR post-rally drinkin estravaganza! NOICE!!!! :D

This whole thread is creepy. It creeps me out to think people see Jamie as some sort of sex symbol. No offense Jamie, it's just when people write this stuff about someone I know:eek:

i had the same idea...except it was only going to be my car with 12 different chicks...:cool: ..but on a serious note that would be cool idea

:D frederick:mad:

Originally posted by supermarkus
This whole thread is creepy. It creeps me out to think people see Jamie as some sort of sex symbol. No offense Jamie, it's just when people write this stuff about someone I know:eek:

Maybe I should have inserted some smilies. I admire the fact that she IS rally racing! That right there puts her in a catagory all in itself. Plus, I do think she is cute. But "creepy" is the last reaction that I was going for. Just wanted to have some OT fun.

What we really need is Tapper modelling all that safety equipment. Maybe Brucelee can be Mr. July.

All I'm saying is TINK ABOUDIT. :lol:

Originally posted by supermarkus
This whole thread is creepy. It creeps me out to think people see Jamie as some sort of sex symbol. No offense Jamie, it's just when people write this stuff about someone I know:eek:

Ditto my man, ditto.

Don't you think she'd lose some respect from her rally peers?

-faast

Oh boy.

Heh. You never know. If you ask her nicely maybe she will put out a calendar.

I wonder what she'd say.


*goes to find jamie*


-T

Originally posted by SubEd
Eric? Your thoughts?


Oh, I forgot. He's working. :p


ROFL!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

nope. pass. just not my style.
I'm no sell out.
and that's not how i want to be viewed or looked at

but i appreciate the suggestion.

my face/looks are definately not what i want to be remembered for. i'll let my driving do the talking and sooner or later people will take notice for the right reasons

if you guys are interested in a RALLY ACTION calendar -
i can do that...

yet then again, i still have posters from last year that everyone was interested in though... :rolleyes: yeah right.... :lol:

cya
J.

what about that calander that u made me?
that was some "good rally action"
:)hehh
ok, gonna stop now
:)
keith

Originally posted by Keith
what about that calander that u made me?
that was some "good rally action"
:)hehh
ok, gonna stop now
:)
keith

but i love you http://jammerbabe.com/images/Smiley/bigkiss.gif Keith... you're special

Originally posted by Subie Gal
Keith... you're special

He certainly is ...

http://www.mrhatshellhole.com/pictures/3dpics/timmy2k640x480.jpg

Originally posted by Subie Gal


but i love you http://jammerbabe.com/images/Smiley/bigkiss.gif Keith... you're special

He rode the short bus to school, yanno?

It's why he had a yellow WRX


:lol:

Jamie, you had posters?? Where? How can I get one? I wanna put it up next to the other WRC rally posters I have:)

Matt

you can view/order here:

http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/supporters%20page/rallyfanpage.htm

poster:
http://www.subiegal.com/SGRacing/supporters%20page/poster.jpg

Jamie :)

Waitaminute -- Didn't that Fisher girl from the IRL just do a photo shoot for FHM? I think she's setting a precedence here that need to be followed :D

Originally posted by TimStevens




Maybe Subie Gal could work out a deal with Sparco to model all their latest sexy safety equipment ;)


-tim

oh yea... Sparco's new black lace racing harness is very sexy

Originally posted by NotFast
Waitaminute -- Didn't that Fisher girl from the IRL just do a photo shoot for FHM? I think she's setting a precedence here that need to be followed :D

not fisher.
fisher has more respect for herself.

that was danica patrick. aka "the sell out."

i'm on 2 different womens racer discussion boards and email groups.... basically the consensus is we're disgusted by her actions within the female racing community... this type of portrayal of women trying to make it in a "male dominated sport "is not taken lightly.

and personally?
i think she's a sell out. loser. idiot.
and i'd love a chance to tell her how i feel :lol: :mad:

Originally posted by Subie Gal


not fisher.
fisher has more respect for herself.

that was danica patrick. aka "the sell out."

i'm on 2 different womens racer discussion boards and email groups.... basically the consensus is we're disgusted by her actions within the female racing community... this type of portrayal of women trying to make it in a "male dominated sport "is not taken lightly.

and personally?
i think she's a sell out. loser. idiot.
and i'd love a chance to tell her how i feel :lol: :mad:

Don't sugar coat it, let us know how you really feel :lol:

Originally posted by bj1785
Don't sugar coat it, let us know how you really feel :lol:

hehehe i cant help it.. :D
that's who i am :p

so i guess you think Anna Kournikova is a sell out too?

Originally posted by DrnkDrvr
so i guess you think Anna Kournikova is a sell out too?

did she do a sleazy layout sprawled all over a car?

or is she just perceived as cute n sexy?

there is a difference.

http://www.fhmus.com/images/girls/danicapatrick/1big.jpg


like whoa :eek:

slut whore skank bitch

just complete disrespect for what women in motorsports are about.

we're trying to break stereotypes.
she's out there portraying them

do you think anyone is going to take her seriously now?
will she be remembered for sleazy photo shoots or her driving?

sex sells....

thus enters the sell out...

no respect for her now.

Originally posted by DrnkDrvr
oh yea... Sparco's new black lace racing harness is very sexy

This is more along the lines of what I was referring to:

http://store4.yimg.com/I/saferacer_1732_109748


Oh, and for the ladies, here's a pic of a really hot guy in a Sparco suit:
















http://www.bakerprecision.com/images/fire.jpg

;)

Originally posted by Subie Gal
slut whore skank bitch

très subtle. :lol:

Originally posted by Subie Gal
sex sells....

thus enters the sell out...

Yes... but isn't the objective to fund the team, and to keep racing whatever it takes? Hell, if she's lucky enough to be able to fund her driving efforts by posing in some scantily clad clothing, I say more power to her.

Subi gal, you hijacked this thread with your equal rights racing agenda. I thought we were going to see some gratuitous swim suit shots. :lol:

Originally posted by TimStevens


Yes... but isn't the objective to fund the team, and to keep racing whatever it takes? Hell, if she's lucky enough to be able to fund her driving efforts by posing in some scantily clad clothing, I say more power to her.

i disagree, as do many of my fellow women racers.
there are other ways to fund a racing team.

you want respect?
drive and earn it
you'll never get it by taking off your clothes.

besides, she has a team, funds, sponsors.
and one may say there's no such thing as bad publicity
but i wholeheartedly disagree.
she will be viewed as a tramp from now on.
who's going to want to sign her? playboy? :lol:

Originally posted by bj1785
Subir gal, you hijacked this thread with your equal rights racing agenda. I thought we were going to see some gratuitous swim suit shots. :lol:

;) i'll work on that.... erm... yeah.... :lol:

Originally posted by Subie Gal
my face/looks are definately not what i want to be remembered for. i'll let my driving do the talking and sooner or later people will take notice for the right reasonsYou're a pretty cool chick, Jamie. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Ah yes, but any sport on the professional level becomes more about entertainment and less about competition (see Anna K. who can't play tennis but still sells tickets).

Originally posted by beethoven
Ah yes, but any sport on the professional level becomes more about entertainment and less about competition (see Anna K. who can't play tennis but still sells tickets).

...and is perceived as a joke by her peers.

something i personally wouldnt want to be.

Originally posted by Subie Gal
slut whore skank bitch

just complete disrespect for what women in motorsports are about.

we're trying to break stereotypes.
she's out there portraying them

do you think anyone is going to take her seriously now?
will she be remembered for sleazy photo shoots or her driving?

sex sells....

thus enters the sell out...

no respect for her now.


your right sex does sell. I personally think sexy female athletes actually help their proffessions by doing photoshoots like this. How many people now pay attention to tennis because of Anna?

women do the same thing as men. I've lost count how many women I've heard say the following.

Woman: "oh I like the yankees cuz Derek Jeter is soo cute" or "Tom Brady is so sexy, go Patriots." it works both ways.

Originally posted by Subie Gal
you want respect?
drive and earn it
you'll never get it by taking off your clothes.

Respect is important... but it doesn't pay the crew and it won't even pay for enough tires for a practice session.

I don't know a thing about this girl's position, but branding her with a scarlet letter on her chest because she took the "easy way" is awfully harsh.

And besides, what does posing in a magazine have to do with racing anyway? Are you upset with every woman who poses in a magazine or dances in a club to make some money?

-tim

it worked for jacques villeneuve.

http://www.actwin.com/toaph/life/cars/f1/jacques/worship.jpg

well, maybe not.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Originally posted by gongzero
it worked for jacques villeneuve.


Oh come on... you know the blonde hair thing is for da ladies ;)

Originally posted by TimStevens


Oh come on... you know the blonde hair thing is for da ladies ;)

whiney ass stupid... um... i mean... i'm sure williams misses him greatly.

his resto-club here in montreal has teh suck too.

Now if we could only get Anna Kornikova and Dannika Patrick to do a swimsuit calender to support Subie Gal's team....

Hm.....

:p

Hey Subie gal, would you pose for FHM if they offered you the new Subaru rally car and a spot on the team for your swimsuit endorsement.

Originally posted by TimStevens


Respect is important... but it doesn't pay the crew and it won't even pay for enough tires for a practice session.

I don't know a thing about this girl's position, but branding her with a scarlet letter on her chest because she took the "easy way" is awfully harsh.

And besides, what does posing in a magazine have to do with racing anyway? Are you upset with every woman who poses in a magazine or dances in a club to make some money?

-tim

you're missing the point :)
women in motorsports are a rare breed.
and we are trying to be respected.

there arent as many of us as you may think, and suprisingly most of us think and feel the same way. we're determined to make it legitimately, without whoring ourselves out.

i could really give a rats arse less about the private sector of sluts. they can do what they want. it's their body.

but when one of our own sets us back 20 years by doing a trash layout? just a few of us are going to get upset.

everyone is entitled to their opinion....
but mine is this was the wrong move.

Just some Danica Patrick dirt from the go-karting days...

She got caught once at a WKA national event giving head in the bathroom to a canadian birel driver..

she was like 15


BAM.

Originally posted by mizar
Just some Danica Patrick dirt from the go-karting days...

She got caught once at a WKA national event giving head in the bathroom to a canadian birel driver..

she was like 15
BAM.

are you serious? :lol: oh that's great :lol:

Originally posted by Subie Gal
you're missing the point :)
women in motorsports are a rare breed.
and we are trying to be respected.

I know that... but how is what she's doing reflecting negatively on you? If what you're saying were the case, any time a female accountant posed nude in playboy she'd be pushing the whole women in accounting movement back 20 years :p

Anyhow, as a man, I don't see a woman in a race car and go "Gee, I wonder if she's hot." I think "Gee, that's cool. I hope she does well." Seeing a hot chick in a Sparco suit with no undies on, or some IRL driver in her panties doesn't change that a bit for me, and I certainly hope that's the case for the other men here.

In other words: lighten up, and go kick ass ;)

Tim.... you are most definately the exception to the general rule it seems ... most men see titti and ass and think titti and ass and that's it....

and i'm sure you know most men tend to be that way :)

i'm cool :cool: this is just one subject u dont wanna get me started on! :lol: i havent spent the last 5 years working my ass off for nothing....

J.

jamie,

i WHOLLY respect your opinion on the matter, but I think that in many ways posing for FHM is breaking some stereotypes rather than reenforcing them.

The stereotype (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) is that "Girl Racers" are ugly grease monkeys (which you very much are not - and apparently neither is Dannica Patrick). Furthermore, whether you pose for a magazine or not has NO bearing on your driving ability. You either have it or you don't. Guess what! Many female drivers are playing with the big boys on the sole grounds that they are female and "get by," not because they are great racers (whew - you dodged another bullet there ;) ). Quite frankly, I don't feel that female racers should be respected in the sport because they have "morals," but rather they should be respected for the competency of their driving.

So, in short, it doesn't matter if you're in a magazine or not, if you can't drive, get off the track!

bjlee

- good point, and nice insight.

are we really perceived as grease monkey's? :lol:
wow i guess i was never really concerned w/that one.

i just wish all men/peers thought the way you did.
unfortunately that's just not the case the majority of the time.

i've run into more than one brick wall in my few years in this sport.
and a lot of it is resentment from my so-called peers. i just smile and carry on... but it's been nearly impossible to be taken seriously... championship and all. dont get me started or we'll be here all weekend....

thanks for the feedback

Quick question about Danica Patrick: is she any good? This is the first time I've heard anything about her, so I'm clueless. I'm just curious because if she's kicking everyone's ass in her chosen sport, then I don't see a problem with what she's doing (but then again, I'm a guy :D ), but if she's posing just to get the attention that her driving isn't getting her (like Anna Kournikova's tennis playing), then I can totally see Jamie's point of view.

Originally posted by Subie Gal


are you serious? :lol: oh that's great :lol:

Oh yea..

I think she was running junior kt100s at the time..

I was at the event :eek:

She is actually not bad....
http://www.amcwholesale.com/racing/racing.cfm

but she's still climbing the same ladder the rest of us are.
and she's not very well known or publicized.
she hasnt had a real breakthrough just yet.

Jamie

Originally posted by bj1785
Hey Subie gal, would you pose for FHM if they offered you the new Subaru rally car and a spot on the team for your swimsuit endorsement.

no.

next question?

What I think a lot of you guys are missing is what it really is like out there as far as Jamie is concerned. I agree with what some of you are saying, but from my experience as one of Jamie's co-drivers and being on her race team, it's not what you guys think. People do treat her differently, I hear things, mumbled this and thats in the corner etc. Especially if we're doing well.

I get **** at car shows and stuff, people are floored by the fact that Jamie is a girl. I can't count the "you mean a GIRL drives this car?!" and the "well if a girl drives this, let me take her out in the dirt and show her how it's done". It pisses me off so much, I really have to reign in my anger and calm down before I bust their face. It reflects badly on her, and it reflects badly on me and the rest of the team. I hate it.

There is a huge stereotype out there, and from where I'm sitting it certainly hasn't been broken yet, and Jamie is doing exactly what she needs to do to break it; Drive hard and drive well. She'll at least break the stigma for herself, if not for other women racers out there.

my .02

-T

THANKS Ty....

Originally posted by TFW
It pisses me off so much, I really have to reign in my anger and calm down before I bust their face.

i find busting faces is best done calmly, too. :lol:

Originally posted by Subie Gal

next question?

What is the line between "trash" and "respectable" photo shoots for a female driver? Obviously a swimsuit is on the side of sex appeal. However, fans do want to see more of their driver than just a helmet in a car. Plus, the more exposure <please keep that in context> that a driver can get equals out to more sponsorship opportunity.

So in order to set a presedence of "Respectful" photoshoots, what would lines would you not cross so as to not loose any of the ground that the female drivers have gained in the past 10 years?


ha ha, Eric V.293040057 is going to be piss'd that he missed out on this while at work:lol:

Originally posted by mizar
Just some Danica Patrick dirt from the go-karting days...

She got caught once at a WKA national event giving head in the bathroom to a canadian birel driver..

she was like 15


BAM.

Was she wearing a HANS device?

Originally posted by Fred Zaplitny


Was she wearing a HANS device?

No, but when she moved her head to dodge the load she sprained her neck..

Now she only performs fellatio with a HANS.

Originally posted by The_Triton


What is the line between "trash" and "respectable" photo shoots for a female driver? Obviously a swimsuit is on the side of sex appeal. However, fans do want to see more of their driver than just a helmet in a car. Plus, the more exposure <please keep that in context> that a driver can get equals out to more sponsorship opportunity.

So in order to set a presedence of "Respectful" photoshoots, what would lines would you not cross so as to not loose any of the ground that the female drivers have gained in the past 10 years?


ha ha, Eric V.293040057 is going to be piss'd that he missed out on this while at work:lol:

first off... love to Eric :) ;)



and here are some very good shots of Danica...
something i'm working on for my own team in the next few weeks. this is the type of thing you want sponsors to see. this is what you circulate to the media... this is IMO the "correct" format.

http://www.amcwholesale.com/images/danica/gallery/img_04.jpg

http://www.amcwholesale.com/images/danica/gallery/img_05.jpg

I usually don't feel the need to publicly defend Jamie, but eh, there's a first for everything.....

I the two years that I've known Jamie, I'm for damn sure of one thing....she's worked hard and sometimes twice as hard for everything she's gotten. Those that second guess her achievements haven't one iota of an idea of what they're talking about.

Anyway....yeah the calander thing just isn't your thing J, I remember you toying with an idea similar to that about a year ago 'member? And while I thought maybe that would be a good idea (I mean who doesn't want to see their friends butt arse nekkid? :devil: Right J? ;) :p)....ahem...anyway...while I thought it was a good idea, I just thought, it's really not you J. Besides, why is everyone so hung up on it now anyway? There's plenty more female nasiocers the OT mafia can terrorize :devil:

Anyway...Jamie, and all you guys that understand Jamie's plight, I'm with ya all the way! ;)

Gotta fly!
Skippy

Originally posted by TFW

I get **** at car shows and stuff, people are floored by the fact that Jamie is a girl. I can't count the "you mean a GIRL drives this car?!" and the "well if a girl drives this, let me take her out in the dirt and show her how it's done". It pisses me off so much, I really have to reign in my anger and calm down before I bust their face. It reflects badly on her, and it reflects badly on me and the rest of the team. I hate it.



Isn't that a bunch of ****? Stupid male ego, when I'm sure Jamie would drive circles around any of them....

I"ve run in to the same things while attending car shows with my Hemi Super Bee, one of 98 ever made.....

Without a doubt, someone will come up and I'll hear them say,"Yeah, I used to have one of these, we used to haul hay bales in it"....

Yeah, right........

Maybe the chick that posed for FHM isn't that good at racing...Jamie, do you know?

My point is she may be the Anna of her sport...not good enough on talent, but she draws in the crowd because of her sexiness, posters, autographs, etc.

I'm sure there are a lot of guys that would go to a race just to see her, then end up watching real girl racers (since you can't check out the body when she's in the car...duh)

Course just like Anna is seen as a "never gonna be" in tennis, the same could be true of this girl...

Originally posted by Subie Gal
we're trying to break stereotypes.
she's out there portraying them
sex sells....
thus enters the sell out...
no respect for her now.

Jamie is absolutely right. There's no way anyone's going to look at this girl and go, "She must be a talented driver."

I'm the first to say that Jamie and I don't always agree, but I will tell you, she is a sexy woman with a strong, independent personality and a definite opinion on things. And she's a helluva driver.

But there's a time and a place for both. Drive on the track - in public. Look like a hooch in private - for your boyfriend. But don't try to do both because you claim that you're getting more press for women drivers, etc., - save it - it's negative press. No one is ever going to think of you as a driver if you drop trou for every camera that comes by.

Look at Michelle Mouton. I wouldn't hit it with rhdude's d1ck and halfbaked pushing, but damn she could drive. And I respect that more than if she showed her tits.

Jamie's got some sexy photos, we all know she's hot. Now leave it alone and let her whip yo ass.

Originally posted by Subi Chicky


Look at Michelle Mouton. I wouldn't hit it with rhdude's d1ck and halfbaked pushing, but damn she could drive. And I respect that more than if she showed her tits.

Man...I wish sigs were allowed...that would be mine...in all caps and bolded...:lol: :lol:

GJ sushi...

Originally posted by mizar


No, but when she moved her head to dodge the load she sprained her neck..

Now she only performs fellatio with a HANS.

:lol:

This thread just went in the gutter.

Who was the racer that was asked "What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?"
And she answered.......
"Winning"

Originally posted by cditto


Man...I wish sigs were allowed...that would be mine...in all caps and bolded...:lol: :lol:

GJ sushi...

I read that and thought the same thing.

I now have a new catch-phrase.

Originally posted by Subi Chicky
Look at Michelle Mouton. I wouldn't hit it with rhdude's d1ck and halfbaked pushing, but damn she could drive. And I respect that more than if she showed her tits.


http://jammerbabe.com/images/Smiley/rofl2.gif
that.... was funny as 'ell :lol:

Maybe you guys should buy one of the Rally Posters Jaime made?

Just a thought, but I guess that would make too much sense.