We have the 16G turbo upgrade available for your WRX for a mind blowing $850.

This turbo is good to 400+ HP and is a direct replacement for the TD04, characteristics of this turbo include a smooth fast spool and lots of mid and top end power.

You can PayPal us or call us at 1-866-WRXTuner to place your order.

We are also offering TD04 level 2 and Level 3 upgrades.
The upgrade is not the conventional cliping or just a port and polish. You will get a completely rebuilt to better then factory specs turbo which is ported polished, the internal housing is machined and a larger impeller is added to give you phenominal power.

The level 2 upgrade has produced 12.77 in the quarter mile with only an up-pipe and a boost controller!

I look forward to hearing from everyone!
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

pm'd ya!

Originally posted by WRXTuner
We have the 16G turbo upgrade available for your WRX for a mind blowing $800.

Can you please post:

Compressor maps for each stage you are offering

The type of exhaust housing each stage is built on

Compressor maps

Dyno charts

A picture

Thanks!

Mitch

Edit: Spelling

I can't find anything on your website with full detail on these products.

Is this the same turbo that Turbo Specialties is offering?

Originally posted by QA Guy
Is this the same turbo that Turbo Specialties is offering?

Yes this is the same turbo we are going to be the exlusive reseller of the product.

Nick

P.S. I will have more info in the next day or so we are still getting all the info together for everyone :)


www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by WRXTuner


Yes this is the same turbo we are going to be the exlusive reseller of the product.

Nick

P.S. I will have more info in the next day or so we are still getting all the info together for everyone :)


www.WRXTuner.com

Is this w/o core? New turbo...no core right?

I can't wait to see some proven numbers on the turbo to show if it is better than the vf series, etc.
Can you get the big 16g and 18g as well?

i would like some more info on the 16g...ecu requirements/fuel requirements/any other requirements!

requirements....etc for the 16g bolt on...you'd have $800 in your pocket if you could provide these...and im sure from others too.
how difficult of an install is this? do you need a different intercooler?

thanks

The Subaru TDO5 HS 16G turbocharger upgrade is now available. This is a fully developed upgrade for the US market Subaru, not a reworked European or Japan issue upgrade. We have pulled all of the strongest features from several turbochargers together to create a very well balanced combination of boost response, efficiency and power. Over the past two years we have tried may different turbochargers and carefully analyized their performance on the US market car. We found fast responding units, unbelievable top end power and great torque, but never all of these characteristics in one package. Our turbo utilizes the following features: MHI 16G cartridge, using the standard turbine wheel to give us maximum drive area, a properly machined IHI #20 exhaust housing for the perfect balance between exhaust flow and velocity, Garrett .60 A/R compressor housing with custom CNC machined adapter, perfectly matched inlet and outlet dimensions for a trouble free fitment, and last an adjustable wastegate actuator to allow custom tailored boost for your combination. We back all of this with a full two year warranty.

The most power so far out of this turbo has been 327WHP and full boost is around 2900 RPM. The car with these #'s has the following mods:

1. Up-pipe
2. Turbo Back
3. UTEC (dyno tuned)
4. STi 550 injectors
5. Walboro fuel pump
6. Top mount intercooler (TXS)
7. Cold air intake
8. 17lbs of boost

Bone stock we had a car make 264WHP with just an up-pipe and a K&N drop in filter. No after market boost control of anykind. Without any tuning the car will get usable boost around 3400 RMP and full boost around 3800 with a good boost controller and and a turbo back exhaust you should see full boost around 3400 RPM or less.

There are 4 left and we will have more in about 3 weeks.

Nick

Originally posted by modvp


Is this w/o core? New turbo...no core right?

Correct no core with a new turbo :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

I will be interested once I see some more guinnea pigs buy and use it. :)
Again, are you going to offer the big 16g and 18g as well?

i wonder if this 16g is better than the vf30 im currently using...i've seen roughly the same hp #s from the vf30 and similar mods.

couple questions...
I have a drop in filter and an up pipe...
if i run stock boost will i be too lean?
(yes i plan on upgrading the other fuel parts as well as exhaust and computer)

Does it come with instructions?

just want to make sure i dont kill my car...
i need it to last, it only has 4000 miles on it, and i was thinking of trading it in for a lancer evo or something else. This upgrade would make me keep it.

thanks

I would like to go for the Turbo from TurboSpecialties. I was just reading about that the other day on their site. They didn't give a whole lot of detail...sounds very nice and from the price they quoted a liitle more acheivable for the average guy.....
Bumpppppyyyy...............:devil:

Bad...Bad..Nick..you're such a bad influence..
selling these parts that I must have!

Bad..Bad..Nick...terrible..now i have sell
myself on the streets..to make extra money..:lol:

PS..Nick is a great guy and outstand individual..
did I actual say that?..I must have been brain washed..
what did you put in my beer last time we went drinking?!
:devil:

Ben
Jax Mod Squad
:devil:

VERY interesting...

Shouldn't this turbo be called a hybrid TDO5 16G, since it really is a Frankenstein turbo. Just want everyone to realize that this turbo isn't a genuine 16G as those used in the Ver ll overseas.

in easy terms...what is the difference between a real 16g and this? quality? how long do they last when used properly?

Originally posted by WRXTuner
The Subaru TDO5 HS 16G turbocharger upgrade is now available. This is a fully developed upgrade for the US market Subaru, not a reworked European or Japan issue upgrade. We have pulled all of the strongest features from several turbochargers together to create a very well balanced combination of boost response, efficiency and power. Over the past two years we have tried may different turbochargers and carefully analyized their performance on the US market car. We found fast responding units, unbelievable top end power and great torque, but never all of these characteristics in one package. Our turbo utilizes the following features: MHI 16G cartridge, using the standard turbine wheel to give us maximum drive area, a properly machined IHI #20 exhaust housing for the perfect balance between exhaust flow and velocity, Garrett .60 A/R compressor housing with custom CNC machined adapter, perfectly matched inlet and outlet dimensions for a trouble free fitment, and last an adjustable wastegate actuator to allow custom tailored boost for your combination. We back all of this with a full two year warranty.

The most power so far out of this turbo has been 327WHP and full boost is around 2900 RPM. The car with these #'s has the following mods:

1. Up-pipe
2. Turbo Back
3. UTEC (dyno tuned)
4. STi 550 injectors
5. Walboro fuel pump
6. Top mount intercooler (TXS)
7. Cold air intake
8. 17lbs of boost

Bone stock we had a car make 264WHP with just an up-pipe and a K&N drop in filter. No after market boost control of anykind. Without any tuning the car will get usable boost around 3400 RMP and full boost around 3800 with a good boost controller and and a turbo back exhaust you should see full boost around 3400 RPM or less.

There are 4 left and we will have more in about 3 weeks.

Nick

I am very interested. However, your dyno #'s does not make too much sense to me unless i know how much a stock WRX pushes on that dyno.

When will you have pricing and availabilty info on the stage 2 and stage 3 TD04 upgrades? Can you run this safely on stock fuel?

Originally posted by WRXTuner

The level 2 upgrade has produced 12.77 in the quarter mile with only an up-pipe and a boost controller!
www.WRXTuner.com

just wanting to verify this. 12.77 in the quarter mile with just an upipe and a TD04 upgrade and boost controller, thats it?

if this setup is reliable and ideal for a daily driven car, drop me a pm with more info. or just reply here, heh.

thanks

Originally posted by modvp


I am very interested. However, your dyno #'s does not make too much sense to me unless i know how much a stock WRX pushes on that dyno.

The same car that made 264WHP was 192WHP before the turbo :)

Nick

Originally posted by sicminded


just wanting to verify this. 12.77 in the quarter mile with just an upipe and a TD04 upgrade and boost controller, thats it?

if this setup is reliable and ideal for a daily driven car, drop me a pm with more info. or just reply here, heh.

thanks

This setup is very reliable as a daily driver or a track car. There are 337 of these turbo's out there and only 1 has ever come back :)

Talk to you soon,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

The dyno's were all done on a mustang dyno with a 17% adjustment factored in.

Just thought I would mention that,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by palaban
When will you have pricing and availabilty info on the stage 2 and stage 3 TD04 upgrades? Can you run this safely on stock fuel?

The level 2 upgrade is $600 + $15 shipping in the lower 48 states. The level 3 upgrade is going to be $675 + $15 for shipping. There is also a $200 refundable core charge for these as well and will be refunded as soon as the core is recieved :)

Hawaii and Alaska add $30 for express shipping :)

Talk to everyone soon,
Nick


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Originally posted by methadon
i wonder if this 16g is better than the vf30 im currently using...i've seen roughly the same hp #s from the vf30 and similar mods.

This is true in the power range, however this turbo will come on boost sooner and hold it longer then the VF30 :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Maybe I missed this, but what is the difference between Level 2 and Level 3 Td04 Upgrade besides the price?
Anyhow, interesting.

No, you didn't I was wondering the same thing...:)

Also, this is the third time I will ask, will you offer the big 16g or 18g as well?

How does the 16G turbo compare to the TD04 with level 3 upgrade.

Originally posted by WillF
Maybe I missed this, but what is the difference between Level 2 and Level 3 Td04 Upgrade besides the price?
Anyhow, interesting.

The difference between the two is the impeller size. The Level 3 has a larger impeller which of course is more expensive and requires more machine work on the housing.

I hope this helps.

dman918 : I will have an answer for you later this week as we should be able to get you both the larger 16g and 18g just not sure of availability.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Thanks. I will keep an eye out. I am just dying to decide on a turbo.

Hey Nick-

Daryl here, thanks for the help with the Forge spring a couple weeks ago.

Anywho, what are the spool up for level 2 and level 3. I am not fully grasping the characteristics of these turbos yet. Also is there anyone in our area running these? Maybe I could be a "test subject". Of course I scratch your back and tell everyone my experience and you can scratch mine:D

Also Nick-

Maybe to make it easier for other people like me, how do these turbos compare to the VF series turbos. Mainly the 22, 23, and 30. I have a 23, but if I can get some more performance AND better spool, well that makes it easy... Thanks.

Originally posted by Dirty B
Also Nick-

Maybe to make it easier for other people like me, how do these turbos compare to the VF series turbos. Mainly the 22, 23, and 30. I have a 23, but if I can get some more performance AND better spool, well that makes it easy... Thanks.


The level 2 has both the low spool characteristics of the 29 and the ability to hold boost to redline with close to the same CFM as the vf30/34.

The level 3 has the spool characteristics of the vf30 yet has a much higher flow rating. I don't have an exact comparison for this one but I can say it's definatly nice for high end boost if you are looking for a drag type turbo in a small package with some good streetable characteristics.

Nick


www.WRXTuner.com

What's the availability/lead time on the 16g's?

Hey Nick, I'm pretty interested in the 16g.

Will STi injectors and a walbro pump be enough to run comfortable IDCs with this turbo? Or will I need fuel rails as well?

Originally posted by BeavisNuke
Hey Nick, I'm pretty interested in the 16g.

Will STi injectors and a walbro pump be enough to run comfortable IDCs with this turbo? Or will I need fuel rails as well?

We have 1 left 3 are spoken for and in about 3 weeks we will have many more :)

The turbo can be installed on a factory setup without any mods. Currently you shouldn't need much more then some good engine managment to get a lot out of the turbo. Fuel rails are always a good idea and so are injectors and fuel pumps these are just good ideas if you want to make a lot of power and get the most for what you are getting.

Yet are not needed to bolt it on and go ;)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

I don't understand how this turbo can flow more air than a VF30 and still be bolt-on. Everyone pretty much says that you at least need a pump and injectors to run a VF30 comfortably.

Originally posted by zronin
Shouldn't this turbo be called a hybrid TDO5 16G, since it really is a Frankenstein turbo. Just want everyone to realize that this turbo isn't a genuine 16G as those used in the Ver ll overseas.

This is a fully developed upgrade for the US market Subaru, not a reworked European or Japan issue upgrade.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by BeavisNuke
I don't understand how this turbo can flow more air than a VF30 and still be bolt-on. Everyone pretty much says that you at least need a pump and injectors to run a VF30 comfortably.

If you want to run more then 16LBS of boost this would be an accurate statement, however I never said you shouldn't get any other mods, just that you could run it with a bone stock car and still get 264 WHP :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

i cant decide....that just sounds so sweet...i need to save up my $$ and i'll be buyin one

I'm very interested as well, can you post pictures any time this week? Also, what is max boost on this thing? Im actaully focused on road racing, so this turbo sound attractive... fast spool, holds boost... but again, whats its max psi?

Thanks

-Randall

For those interested in the TS 16G here is a discussion on it

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=347107 (16G)

Originally posted by zronin
For those interested in the TS 16G here is a discussion on it

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=347107 (16G)

you link doesn't work..:rolleyes:

Originally posted by WRXTuner


If you want to run more then 16LBS of boost this would be an accurate statement, however I never said you shouldn't get any other mods, just that you could run it with a bone stock car and still get 264 WHP :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Just a nOOb here trying to learn more.

Can you please explain how the with 16G, with the same amount of boost (according to your statement) as the stock TD 04 you can produce over 70 additional WHP ?

I understand the the turbo may run cooler to achieve the same amount of boost but how else can the same abount of air, with the same amount of fuel could produce more HP ?

Originally posted by Ti-REX


Just a nOOb here trying to learn more.

Can you please explain how the with 16G, with the same amount of boost (according to your statement) as the stock TD 04 you can produce over 70 additional WHP ?

I understand the the turbo may run cooler to achieve the same amount of boost but how else can the same abount of air, with the same amount of fuel could produce more HP ?

A bigger turbo does not need to produce more boost to achive more HP. The way a turbo is rated is in CFM this is the amount of air a turbo can move, not the boost level at which it can handle. You can have a turbo with 500 CFM running 15lbs of boost produce as much HP as a turbo that is 300 CFM at 25lbs of boost.

I hope this makes a little more sense to you now :)

Nick


www.WRXTuner.com

Let's make sure I got his right:

I can run this 16G turbo @ 15.5 psi with my current mods with no Engine Management and not have any problems with running with the stock fuel pump, injectors and stock ECU?

My current mods are:

Exhaust Depot Bell mouth DP
Greddy Evo Cat Back
GT Spec Headers & UP
TurboXS Shorty Intake
TurboXS HPMBC Set to 15.5-16 psi
Samco IC Hoses
Greddy Type S BOV

If this Turbo will work with my current mods I may be giving you guys a call.

Thanks

what is max psi the turbo can handle before its out of its efficiency range?
You do NOT need a core right?
Would you happen to have any UTEC maps?

If you want 100% IDC you can :rolleyes:

Sorry, I did not realize that would put me at 100% IDC.

Excuse me for asking a simple question.:(

Originally posted by RALLYT-WRX
Let's make sure I got his right:

I can run this 16G turbo @ 15.5 psi with my current mods with no Engine Management and not have any problems with running with the stock fuel pump, injectors and stock ECU?

My current mods are:

Exhaust Depot Bell mouth DP
Greddy Evo Cat Back
GT Spec Headers & UP
TurboXS Shorty Intake
TurboXS HPMBC Set to 15.5-16 psi
Samco IC Hoses
Greddy Type S BOV

If this Turbo will work with my current mods I may be giving you guys a call.

Thanks


Simply... Yes, but would recomend at least better fuel pump and injectors to run higher then stock boost level's and possible an AFC of some sort.

Not so simply... they're gone for the moment I am going to do what I can to get them here faster then 3 weeks :)

If you want one I can take a small deposit to hold one for anyone who want's there name on the next run. $100 is all you would need to reserve yours for the next ones.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Will the 16G bolt right on to a TXS turboback exhaust system? Can the stock IC be used? And do you have any pictures?

Thanks
Dennis

Originally posted by mightbewrx
Will the 16G bolt right on to a TXS turboback exhaust system? Can the stock IC be used? And do you have any pictures?

Thanks
Dennis

Will it bolt on to the TXS system, absolutly!
Can the stock intercooler be used, again, absolutly!
Pictures will be done next week by the end of the week :)

This turbo will work on a totally stock system if you take it easy on the boost you run. Don't go over 1 bar and you should be fine for a while on the stock system the car we have it on that is stock is exactly that stock. It is using the factory boost controller wich is max 1 bar boost in 3rd and up. You will of couse get better results as proven by the stage 4 car when you start doing mods.

Talk to you soon,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

How does it compare to VF34? I have one and I am in search of finding one with more top end power. Will it have more top end than VF30/34? How's the flow rate compared to VF30/34?
Thanks.

Originally posted by WRXTuner


A bigger turbo does not need to produce more boost to achive more HP. The way a turbo is rated is in CFM this is the amount of air a turbo can move, not the boost level at which it can handle. You can have a turbo with 500 CFM running 15lbs of boost produce as much HP as a turbo that is 300 CFM at 25lbs of boost.

I hope this makes a little more sense to you now :)

Nick


www.WRXTuner.com

But we're producing much more than stock, where does the extra fuel come from to allow the increase in airflow that the 16g is creating. It seems leaning out would be too easy. The stock ECU can't adjust for this, can it? Confused:confused:

Originally posted by protocol_droid


But we're producing much more than stock, where does the extra fuel come from to allow the increase in airflow that the 16g is creating. It seems leaning out would be too easy. The stock ECU can't adjust for this, can it? Confused:confused:

Your stock fuel system is not maxed on the WRX at stock boost it is somewhere around 75-80% at full throttle adding the turbo will max the system out at this point and should be handled with kit gloves. At no point do I not recomend upgrading fuel system, just that if you don't be very conservative as to how you handle the extra air flow.

In other words, if you are running the stock boost solenoid you will be fine for a little while as long as you don't drive the car into the ground and are carefull how you drive. Upgrading the fuel system is something you SHOULD DO! and as stated earlier get some sort of AFC or uni-chip, UTEC, e-manage, something to help tune the car so you don't BLOW IT UP ;)

And yes the stock ECU will learn the new system to an extent and add fuel as needed.

I hope this helps,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Your stock fuel system is not maxed on the WRX at stock boost it is somewhere around 75-80% at full throttle adding the turbo will max the system out at this point and should be handled with kit gloves. At no point do I not recomend upgrading fuel system, just that if you don't be very conservative as to how you handle the extra air flow.

I disagree. The injector duty cycle on stock WRXs run at 90% to 100% above 5700 rpms (this is with the stock boost controller tapering the boost to ~12 psi at redline). Many UTEC logs have shown this. Does the stock WRX run excessively rich? Yep. IMO, running this turbo that flows a hell of a lot more than the stocker at 14 psi all the way to redline without upgrading the will lean out the A/F mixture excessively and potentially lead to some catastrophic problems.

I'd definitely get STi injectors and a Walbro 255 LPH fuel pump with this turbo at stock boost levels.

Im lookn into getting a upgraded turbo soon and ive allready asked this question once butt it didnt get answered so once again i dont know to much about the 16G turbo and wondered how it compares to the tD04 with stage 3.

Originally posted by Noobracer
Im lookn into getting a upgraded turbo soon and ive allready asked this question once butt it didnt get answered so once again i dont know to much about the 16G turbo and wondered how it compares to the tD04 with stage 3.

Sorry I must have missed this :D

The 16G will have more top end flow then the TD04 even at level 3 the spool characteristics will be similar if you tune the 16G where the TD04 will not require as much tweeking to get it to spool sooner.

Basically it depends on what you plan to do to your car. If you want to go big then get the 16G if you want to stay fairly stock and and still be in the high 12's then go with the TD04 mods.

I hope this helps :)
Nick

P.S. If you would like to talk about it feel free to call and we can discuss it.

www.WRXTuner.com

I want this turbo sooooo bad. I gotta scrounge up $800. :devil:

Chris

ttt

bump for a great turbo.

Chris

Has anyone installed this turbo with the BPM twin dump down-pipe? Any fitment issues?

I have had my ecu customed tuned for my old FP turbo, the boost was set for a max boost of 15 psi.

Since I decided to get this turbo I have also gotten the walbro fuel pump and Sti injectors.

My question is as follows. The mechanical install will get done some 3 weeks before the custom tunning. At which point I will be running about 17 psi. Untill then if I only install the fuel pump do you think I run a high risk for the engine. I was told not to install the injectors untill close to tunning time as they will cause me to run rich above 4K rpm which in-turn could cause problems to my single cat.

Oh yes I will also be running the Stone Racing Headers at the same time, any-thoughts on potential hazards untill tune time?

Thanks for the feed back:

Mods:
Stage 1:

Stone Racing header(ceramic coated and heat insulation treatment)
Stone Racing up-pipe.
Samco Turbo inlet hose.
The TD05/16G.... turbo.
BPM Twin dump turbo back twister.
Walbro Fuel Pump.
Custumed tuned factory ecu tuned for 15 psi max boost.

Stage 2(3 weeks later)
STI injectors
Customed tuned ECU for all the above mods with a max boost of 17 psi and 85% max iinjector duty cycle.

Any thought before we go kabloom!!

Thanks

I was just looking at the TD04 stage 2. Would it be safe to run it with a full turboback + catless uppipe without doing any type of fuel upgrades? I won't be hamering it a lot, just the ocasional stop light "spirited driving" and drag strip run. Do you have these in stock?

Thanks
Dennis

Originally posted by mightbewrx
I was just looking at the TD04 stage 2. Would it be safe to run it with a full turboback + catless uppipe without doing any type of fuel upgrades? I won't be hamering it a lot, just the ocasional stop light "spirited driving" and drag strip run. Do you have these in stock?

Thanks
Dennis

With the stage 2 you would be fine as long as you don't run excessive amounts of boost. Currently we have two cores that we are working with and getting more as time goes on.

At this exact moment the 2 cores we have are not back from the individuals to be rebuilt. We should have them available for sale in the next few weeks.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Nick, do you balance these turbos when you rebuild them?

What entails the 1 year warranty? Boost limit?

So has anyone gone to a dyno with this 16g and dynoed it against say a vf30/34 to see if one really makes significantly more power. Would the 16g potentially make PE power?

Will the 16g safely run on sti injectors or should i consider pe650's?

When I talked to the guys at turbo specialties, they said the STI injectors are more than enough for this turbo.

I know Nick personal and he is a great guy to deal with... In no way shape or forum would he try to screw you guys over..

I my self am getting all my RS-T parts from him and we are goin to be working on a turbo project with my car...

But I just wanted to give him a bump for a great guy and a nice vendor...

Talk to you later Nick...

Originally posted by BeavisNuke
Nick, do you balance these turbos when you rebuild them?

What entails the 1 year warranty? Boost limit?


I am assuming this is about the TD04 rebuild...

Yes the turbo's are basically NEW and they are of course balanced not just some clipping or anything they have a completely new impeller as well. As far as boost limit the turbo should be able to produce 19 to 21 lbs of boost with the right configuration. However boost is not what you need to worry about, CFM is, this is the amount of air the turbo can move. This turbo will not drop off boost before red line and flow more air into the engine which is why you will make more power. (easy explination :) )

Warranty covers anything that is due to a manufacturing defect, basically if it was something that we messed up on in the build process we will replace it for a year minus of course shipping to us we will cover shipping back to you :)

I hope this helps,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

What about fitment with larger topmount intercoolers such as Turboxs and APS? I remember hearing that they don't fit well.

Originally posted by codean
What about fitment with larger topmount intercoolers such as Turboxs and APS? I remember hearing that they don't fit well.

This is a direct bolt on that matches the factory turbo's setup I couldn't see this being a factor since we have one on a car with a TXS large top mount :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

The APS unit sits a little lower then the turboxs one.

Originally posted by nicd


Mods:
Stage 1:
Stone Racing header(ceramic coated and heat insulation treatment)
Stone Racing up-pipe.
Samco Turbo inlet hose.
The TD05/16G.... turbo.
BPM Twin dump turbo back twister.
Walbro Fuel Pump.
Custumed tuned factory ecu tuned for 15 psi max boost.


Holy crap! I have the same EXACT mods as you! Well, the header/uppipe are on order, and I should have the BPM DP within the next few weeks.

I will be paying close attention to how your car reacts. I am very interested in this turbo upgrade, and will be getting the injectors/fuel pump to go w/ the upgrade as well in mid-summer.

P.M. me so we can talk about how your car handles this!

Mike~~

Originally posted by codean
The APS unit sits a little lower then the turboxs one.

If the APS is hard to install on the factory turbo then I would have to say it would be the same for this one :)

www.WRXTuner.com

Speaking of Intercoolers... I just checked your site and saw that you have a Rallyspec FMIC. Any more information other than what is listed, such as pictures?

What do you suggest i do. Should i get a stage2 stage 3 or a new 16g turbo. My set up is I have an M2 turbo back exhaust, gtspec2 headers and uppipe, TXS top mount intercooler, Apexi AVC-R, Injen cold air intake. What is best for me on my set up and I would add sti injectors and a fuel pump, but do I have to do a utec or can I do an apexi SAFC or do I need a chip of some sort please let me know you opinion for my car and my set up. I am not looking for a ridicolus amount of horse power just something faster and that can be an everyday driver. Thanks

Originally posted by rex1308
What do you suggest i do. Should i get a stage2 stage 3 or a new 16g turbo. My set up is I have an M2 turbo back exhaust, gtspec2 headers and uppipe, TXS top mount intercooler, Apexi AVC-R, Injen cold air intake. What is best for me on my set up and I would add sti injectors and a fuel pump, but do I have to do a utec or can I do an apexi SAFC or do I need a chip of some sort please let me know you opinion for my car and my set up. I am not looking for a ridicolus amount of horse power just something faster and that can be an everyday driver. Thanks

If you don't want to spend the extra $2000+ after install getting a UTEC injectors etc. I would go with the stage 2 upgrade on the TD04 and at least get an EGT gauge if you don't already have one :) As well as keep an eye on your stock injectors duty cycle so you don't run out of fuel, as we all know this is a very bad thing ;)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by WRXTuner
The most power so far out of this turbo has been 327WHP and full boost is around 2900 RPM. The car with these #'s has the following mods:

1. Up-pipe
2. Turbo Back
3. UTEC (dyno tuned)
4. STi 550 injectors
5. Walboro fuel pump
6. Top mount intercooler (TXS)
7. Cold air intake
8. 17lbs of boost
There's a thread on clubwrx.net about the 16G hybrid from Turbo Specialties:

http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19391

Note that those guys mentions a couple of fitment issues:

-stock hose doesn't fit over the compressor inlet
-the turbo wouldn't clear the TXS intercooler

Also, spoolup characteristics that people report don't seem to be as as good as the figures quoted here... not even close to 17psi @ 2900 RPM.

Are we talking about the same turbo?

From what I have been told it's an older version that they are talking about if you read through it says he was the guinea pig :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Is it possible to perform modifications that are done to the upgraded TD04 on a 16g (port, polish, etc)? And if so, how much? Very interested in this turbo pending more information.

Clive

Originally posted by project_cdubb
Is it possible to perform modifications that are done to the upgraded TD04 on a 16g (port, polish, etc)? And if so, how much? Very interested in this turbo pending more information.

Clive

The 16G is already ported and polished basically it's custom built rather then just a TDO5 housing :)

I hope this helps,
Nick

Nick keep me posted on the status of my turbo.

Thanks, Ivy.

Originally posted by whiterabbit
what is max psi the turbo can handle before its out of its efficiency range?


Has this question been answered?

Originally posted by MAD REX


Has this question been answered?

I've posted my experiences with this turbo many times on this very forum......here goes:

-16 psi @ 3400 (yielded 12.55 @ 110.8)

-20 psi with SMC alky injection for the past 3 months....woohoo...STi/Evo come get some(yet to rerun @ the track).

-If you run over 15 psi, you WILL run out of injector with STi 550s (11:1 AFR in 3rd gear @ 6900 rpms)

-Add a strong spring to the WG actuator (unless Reed has upgraded the WGA since), or the airflow will blow open the WG above 16 psi.

-This turbo rocks; I love mine.

wow the sti injectors are maxed at 15psi?

Any word on when these will become available again? I want one.

Originally posted by n2xlr8n


I've posted my experiences with this turbo many times on this very forum......here goes:

-16 psi @ 3400 (yielded 12.55 @ 110.8)

-20 psi with SMC alky injection for the past 3 months....woohoo...STi/Evo come get some(yet to rerun @ the track).

-If you run over 15 psi, you WILL run out of injector with STi 550s (11:1 AFR in 3rd gear @ 6900 rpms)

-Add a strong spring to the WG actuator (unless Reed has upgraded the WGA since), or the airflow will blow open the WG above 16 psi.

-This turbo rocks; I love mine.

Thanks but that didn't really answer my question.

what is max psi the turbo can handle before its out of its efficiency range?

I'm at 5000 ft elevation so I need a turbo that is effiecient to run ~22psi daily. That's about 18.5 sea level. We have less air, make less power and use less fuel so my injectors will not be maxed out.

Originally posted by MAD REX


Thanks but that didn't really answer my question.

what is max psi the turbo can handle before its out of its efficiency range?

I'm at 5000 ft elevation so I need a turbo that is effiecient to run ~22psi daily. That's about 18.5 sea level. We have less air, make less power and use less fuel so my injectors will not be maxed out.

This turbo is capable of well over 20lbs here at sea level :) so I don't think you will have any issues. I will find out exactly how much it can handle for you next week.

Nick

P.S. They will be available in about 1 month again so if you want to get your name on one call and leave a small $100 deposit. Also the price changed a bit due to the cost of the housings going up they will be $850 instead of $800 :)

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by WRXTuner


This turbo is capable of well over 20lbs here at sea level :) so I don't think you will have any issues. I will find out exactly how much it can handle for you next week.

www.WRXTuner.com

Thanks, I don't know how much longer my vf22 is going to last.

Originally posted by n2xlr8n


I've posted my experiences with this turbo many times on this very forum......here goes:

-16 psi @ 3400 (yielded 12.55 @ 110.8)

-20 psi with SMC alky injection for the past 3 months....woohoo...STi/Evo come get some(yet to rerun @ the track).

-If you run over 15 psi, you WILL run out of injector with STi 550s (11:1 AFR in 3rd gear @ 6900 rpms)

-Add a strong spring to the WG actuator (unless Reed has upgraded the WGA since), or the airflow will blow open the WG above 16 psi.

-This turbo rocks; I love mine.

It runs out of injector at 15psi with the STI's....for the love of god :eek:
is the walbro fuel pump going to be enough?

Yes the walboro pump will be just fine you can upgrade to the PE 650 injectors and won't have any issues at all :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by WRXTuner


At this exact moment the 2 cores we have are not back from the individuals to be rebuilt. We should have them available for sale in the next few weeks.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Have you gotten any Stage 2 turbo's done yet?

Thanks
Dennis

Originally posted by mightbewrx


Have you gotten any Stage 2 turbo's done yet?

Thanks
Dennis

Should have one ready in about a week, check with me or send me an e-mail info@WRXTuner.com and I will let you know as soon as it's ready.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

have you upgraded the spring on the waste gate actuator?

Originally posted by tEkkGOD
have you upgraded the spring on the waste gate actuator?

<--------Also wants to know this.

Originally posted by tEkkGOD
have you upgraded the spring on the waste gate actuator?

That we did, the new actuator has a 15-17 lb spring in it so you won't have to evil pressure loss problems :)

If you want a higher rated spring just let us know at the time of purchase so that we can address it when the turbo is built, but by default it will now have this spring.

Talk to you all soon,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by WRXTuner


That we did, the new actuator has a 15-17 lb spring in it so you won't have to evil pressure loss problems :)

If you want a higher rated spring just let us know at the time of purchase so that we can address it when the turbo is built, but by default it will now have this spring.

Talk to you all soon,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com
So with the new spring how much boost can be run before the wastegate "blows open?"

Originally posted by 1quikrex

So with the new spring how much boost can be run before the wastegate "blows open?"

17 lbs or so maybe a little more :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

but i thought you said before that the turbo could be easily pushed over 20lbs.? I want a turbo that, on a street map can run 17psi and race map that can run 20psi. Can you "hook it up"?:D

Originally posted by 1quikrex
but i thought you said before that the turbo could be easily pushed over 20lbs.? I want a turbo that, on a street map can run 17psi and race map that can run 20psi. Can you "hook it up"?:D


We can do that all we have to do is change the spring just tell me what you want before we send it out and you can have it!

The turbo has already produced over 300WHP at 17lbs so we are setting the general settings to this and if you want more then so be it we will make it happen :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Sounds good, any idea when you'll be getting the next shipment in? Can you change the spring there or do you need to know before Reed ships it out?

Originally posted by 1quikrex
Sounds good, any idea when you'll be getting the next shipment in? Can you change the spring there or do you need to know before Reed ships it out?

I will have it done specifially for yours at Reed's shop, I have set up a FedEx account so that we can ship directly from his location if need be.

I will know more about time frames later next week.

Talk to you soon,
Nick



www.WRXTuner.com

Go look in the vendor forum and vote for me in the polls I put, that is if you want to vote for me since I put just about all the vendors I could see in the recent history list up in 3 different polls

Talk to everyone later,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/for...une=&forumid=58

anyone have any pics of this turbo?

How many people have this turbo now, and anyone want to offer opinions of it?

:confused:

God I am so torn.. do I go with the stage 2 TD04 to keep the beautiful stock spool characteristics or do I go with the 16G in the never ending quest for more fing power.

Originally posted by MustGoFast
God I am so torn.. do I go with the stage 2 TD04 to keep the beautiful stock spool characteristics or do I go with the 16G in the never ending quest for more fing power.

With proper engine management, you can make the 16G hybrid spool almost as fast as the stock turbo.:)

With proper engine management, you can make the 16G hybrid spool almost as fast as the stock turbo.

A properly tuned 16G will not spool as fast as an equally well tuned TD04... basically I am considering if the autocrossability or top end is mroe important to me in making the decision... It's such a tuff call.

Also does anyone know how difficult it is to tune say the 650cc injectors for normal driving? I have a feeling I'll need someoen else to do that for me.

PE650 injectors are a PITA to tune. Ask RiftsWRX. You are more than welcome to see my map if you need to. :)

how would one of these turbos compare to a VF29 and a VF34?
how do they compare in lag to a TD04L?
whats the "least laggiest" solution?

dman918: i pmed you about your map

thanks

lay

Originally posted by Haitch
how would one of these turbos compare to a VF29 and a VF34?
how do they compare in lag to a TD04L?
whats the "least laggiest" solution?

Least lag to most: TDO4, VF29, VF34, this TD05 (the TD05 is a bit of a guess, but with its relatively larger exhaust housing, it's an educated guess).

Originally posted by QA Guy


Least lag to most: TDO4, VF29, VF34, this TD05 (the TD05 is a bit of a guess, but with its relatively larger exhaust housing, it's an educated guess). td05 probably makes the most power out of those turbos also.

suckjust want to make sure i dont kill my car.....it only has 4000 miles on it, and i was thinking of trading it in for a lancer evo or something else. This upgrade would make me keep it.

dude you own a WRX??
WRX's aren't cool anymore their old news

4000 miles and you still have it?? OMG trade that junker in man. the band wagon on the WRX is way old now.

personally my thoughts are if you only have 4000 miles on your car and you wanna get rid of it already your not really sure what you want.

life must suck when your never really happy with what you have and are always wanting the bigger better deal

but i decided to keep my car...and the modding has begun....on that note (need larger turbo!)

Nick, you never did get back to me on what your 16g's CFM is rated at! Slacker.

Jay

what i'm not too sure about is how the vf22 housing will affect the TD05 turbine wheel. since the housing on the overseas TD05's is a bit smaller, i think 7cm2 and the vf22 is a bit bigger. i guess a bit more lag with more top end would be the educated guess. maybe i should try this?

I have already purchased this turbo. It shipped out yesterday or today. I should have it installed soon. I am having the car dyno-tuned and with Ecutek. I will put all doubt aside and post REAL NUMBERS what this turbo does.

Craig

Thanks a ton Craig!!!

Can't wait to see what this thing does as far as spool, power, and torque curve go. Thanks a lot!

Also, what are you gonna use for fuel, STi injectors or PE's?

Originally posted by Kegger
I have already purchased this turbo. It shipped out yesterday or today. I should have it installed soon. I am having the car dyno-tuned and with Ecutek. I will put all doubt aside and post REAL NUMBERS what this turbo does.

Craig


screw the numbers, just tell me if it fits good, and if it kicks some a$$. :) thanks for being the guinea pig, i would've but i still need to save a bit of cash. i think i'm still going to buy this turbo. :D

Originally posted by Diversion
Nick, you never did get back to me on what your 16g's CFM is rated at! Slacker.

Jay

Sorry man, it's in the neiborhood of 520 to 540 CFM

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by WRXTuner


Sorry man, it's in the neiborhood of 520 to 540 CFM

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com



at what psi?

I e-mailed you guys to see if there was any big 16G's available?. No one got back to me?....are there any?.....:(

Originally posted by pfhlipwrx
I e-mailed you guys to see if there was any big 16G's available?. No one got back to me?....are there any?.....:(

None at the moment I was tying to get you a better ETA then soon for you :) I will post when I know some more.

Talk to you all soon,
Nick

fitment issues:

won't fit with stock intercooler. at least not without it crimping hoses. also, the intercooler bracket nearest the turbo hits the actuator. maybe somebody else may have got it to fit, but i didn't wanna mess with it so i got a fmic.

lay

which of these turbos wont fit w/ the stock intercooler? How is that causing issues the thing is tiny

the tdo5-16g. you'd be surprised, it's bigger than the td04.

Originally posted by wrxlay
the tdo5-16g. you'd be surprised, it's bigger than the td04.
PICS!!!

i've had this turbo on for about 2 weeks now. sorry i didn't post, but i wanted to get it tuned first. i'm installing 650 injectors this weekend. probably won't get it tuned for a while, going on vacation end of this month. but, will post asap after that. i've been running it normally, not really pushing it, but i think this turbo has potential.

sorry, i didn't think to take pics when i got it. it's now installed, if u wanna see pics of it installed, probably wont be till next week.

Originally posted by stilesg57
Thanks a ton Craig!!!

Can't wait to see what this thing does as far as spool, power, and torque curve go. Thanks a lot!

Also, what are you gonna use for fuel, STi injectors or PE's?

For the moment, it will be tuned on a stock intercooler and fuel system. I gotta save a lot more money to do what I want:

APS DR/500 FMIC
Walbro fuel pump
Perrin fuel rails
PE 800cc injectors

That is a big ouch factor on my wallet:lol:

OK, anyone have any info on the 16g yet?....
If not I will have to post my own results once one is available to purchase....:devil:

I would love to see some people posting results w/ the 16G on their car.... I would especially like to see the dyno plots and booste curves associated w/ them.

OK, I sold my VF30 today, so its off to 16G land if I can get one, how about it guys, any available?...:confused:

Originally posted by pfhlipwrx
OK, I sold my VF30 today, so its off to 16G land if I can get one, how about it guys, any available?...:confused:

I will have a better idea by the end of the week or begining of next. We were haveing an issue getting the housings and now I think that has been resolved and this should make it a bit easier to get. I will keep everyone up to date as we know more.

Remember if you want to get on the list e-mail us at Info@WRXTuner.com and put 16G in the subject and I will put you on the mailing list and as they come available I will send each of you an e-mail in the order we recieved them. Also please include your name and phone # as I will also call you if you like :)

Talk to everyone soon,
Nick

ok....Will do I WANT ONE!!!!...:devil:

Originally posted by WRXTuner


The difference between the two is the impeller size. The Level 3 has a larger impeller which of course is more expensive and requires more machine work on the housing.

I hope this helps.

dman918 : I will have an answer for you later this week as we should be able to get you both the larger 16g and 18g just not sure of availability.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Did we ever answer the Big 16G/18G availability question. Just curious if there will be more options.

I e-mailed to get on the list, you guys get it?...;)

Originally posted by protocol_droid


Did we ever answer the Big 16G/18G availability question. Just curious if there will be more options.

I haven't got an answer for you there yet I will try to have one by the end of the week for you. I think the big issue is how small our engines are so I don't think we will see them unless you want to put them on the STi in that case I think we might work on something for it.

The 16G as it stands has shown us 343HP to the wheels on one of the vehicles with STi injectors, I want to say this, This turbo is something that is going to be for the people that want a turbo that you will have to tune. Meaning you will have to play with it to get the best performance. This means you will need to play with the restrictor sizes, wastegate adjustments and boost controller settings a bit, we will include a stock restrictor and an open one. The stock will allow you to spool faster but will be more dangerous and more likely to break things ;)

This turbo can and will put out as much or as little power as you want and will give you good results, you just need to do your homework to get it right.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

P.S. we are working on getting a more reliable supply of the housings and it's looking good it might be a small bit longer before they are available.

Originally posted by pfhlipwrx
I e-mailed to get on the list, you guys get it?...;)

Got it :) and your on the list.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by protocol_droid


Did we ever answer the Big 16G/18G availability question. Just curious if there will be more options. forced performance is selling 18g turbos for like 700/800 bucks.

Yeah, I noticed the 18G posts a few days after I posted on this thread.

Would this turbo with a smaller exhaust housing (let's say, 7cm2 like the OEM TD05H-16G) have better spoolup characteristics? If so, any plans to produce it? I'm not interested in the insane top end power (otherwise I'd be looking at the 18G), but I want to preserve as much low end as possible.

how many people are on the list to get a 16G.

WARNING - before you purchase from this vendor I highly recommend you read my vendor review.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=381891

Thanks,
Chris

Interseting, VERY, VERY INTERESTING.....Hmmm, seems like we have a situation here, if all is correct, anyone else?....:confused:

Almost two months past the original announcement and no one has been able to snap a picture of this turbo?

...not to mention a dyno plot :rolleyes:

This is an issue I have been trying to resolve with this customer and thought it was taken care of, If you look on this board you will find that I am a good and freindly vendor and do pride myself on customer service and even tell people to call even if they have just a question or would like an honest opinion even if they aren't buying the part from me.

I tried to work this out with the customer and have been met with a bit of resistance. Sorry if this is going to make a few of you squemish but that's just the way it goes.

You see it's wierd, someone thinks they get the short end of the stick they screen bloody murder and when everyone is happy no one makes a peep :) since I know you have followed my threads for a while you know that no one screems about us.

hope this helps settle any questions as to our integrity.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

I dont see how this is hard to understand? You sent me a hood that was broken (8 months ago). Your insurance looked at it, then the bodyshop threw it in the dumpster because it was useless. You promised me a new hood over 6 months ago and you have yet to deliver. I am tired of waiting and I want my money back, I dont want anything else , and Im not even asking for my shipping. Its as simple as that. I dont see why this cant be resolved easily and quickly. I have talked with other vendors and moderators and they just dont understand your reasoning.

- Chris Rohrback

-Bump-

I am getting a VF34 in October, and want resolution on this matter as far as dyno, and boost vs. RPM plots. Are the 16g turbo, and the TDO4 rebuilt, or are they brand new? Do I send my stock turbo for rebuilding if this is the case? Is this guy reputable, or should I buy direct from Turbo Specialties? Are there UTEC maps availible for both of these exact turbos with STi 550's and a Walbro 255 pump? How about the wastegate/boost creep people experience with VF series turbos? Is that a problem? I have seen many I just ported the wastegate threads on this board and others... I really don't give a lot of concern to amount of power, but I want to know that this turbo is going to operate properly? Better than a VF series and safely. It is all about bang for the buck. If the above questions are not addressed, VF-34 with ported wastegate here I come. I want to know that if I spend over 500 bones on something that it is going to work right in the end. i love my low end torque from the stocker turbo, but want more top end without sacrificing low end torque and boost/spool up characteristics.


Thank-You

Andrew

Any of the available upgrade turbos that provide more top end will give up at least a little bit of spool to the stock turbo.

Turbos like the VF35, VF34, VF29, TD05H-16G, SR30, TD04 hybrids, etc... should add only a little bit of lag, though.

Any of the available upgrade turbos that provide more top end will give up at least a little bit of spool to the stock turbo.

I know that, but I don't want my spool to go from 2800 to 4000 or some ludicrious figure like that 3500 would be acceptable.

Then you should be satisfied with the lag of any of the turbos I listed. Be sure to check out hotrod's turbo CFM list to see which ones will flow the air you want...

The SR30 (or maybe some type of TD04 hybrid) should be the fastest to spool, with the VF35 right behind it.

The spool of any of these turbos, though, should be fairly similar.

Any reviews for the TDO5 16G or the TDO4 upgrades from the guys who bought them? I am very interested.

I have posted my review here : http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4156146#post4156146

nicd... I'm sorry as I don't mean any offense but those are really not the results I was hoping to see... kind of dissapointing.

How do you think we felt. But I do caution a word of warning. We were not able to wring anything extra from it, however since we pay 100$/Hr for tunning after having spent a good $400 to get the proper set-up and still not getting any extra from it we gave up. I am sure that if you spent lots of time and tried various configs that you would be able to get it to perform properly.

The dissapointment stems from the original notion that it was relitivly easy to obtain the numbers-not.

I am at a bit of a lose on this one as Reed from Turbo Specialties seemed to really know his stuff and even with his assistance they were not able to figure out the bug.

PS I just also want to make clear that the vendor was helpfull in trying to help us as was Reed from Turbo Specialties.

so this turbo doesn't quite work like the true 16G (overseas version)?

Originally posted by clamdip
so this turbo doesn't quite work like the true 16G (overseas version)?

The spooling was definitely going to be slower, due to the larger exhaust housing of this compared to the TD05 that was on earlier Impreza turbos. I was a little surprised at how much slower it was, though.

The power and torque produced is also underwhelming.

The Brits are getting much better results with the 7cm2 housing'ed TD05H-16G. :(

Originally posted by QA Guy


The spooling was definitely going to be slower, due to the larger exhaust housing of this compared to the TD05 that was on earlier Impreza turbos. I was a little surprised at how much slower it was, though.


It's not just the size, but the shape of the turbine housing. IHI turbine housings have terrible geometry where the exhaust flow hits the turbine blades. Mitsubishi housings on the other hand are far better, and the differences show in the spool up differences between a true 16G and a hybrid such as the TS model.

-Nathan
www.turboxs.com

PM'D YA WITH A FEW QUESTIONS, WAITING FOR REPLY!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana:

I will have one of these here by the end of the week we will be installing it in a customers car and tweeking it to see what we can get out of it ourselves.

The turbo did have an issue that we think caused an issue for "nicd" which if what we have changed does fix the issue we will fix it for FREE all we as is that he ship us the turbo when we resolve this issue.

In an effort to improve the turbo we may have cause an unforseen issue wich we will know for sure in the next week or so.

Keep an eye here for further results as I think they will impress you, of course as long as the bugs have been worked out.

Talk to everyone soon,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

What is the difference between the level 2 TD04 upgrade and the VF30 turbo? Also can you run a totally stock car with the VF30 turbo? I plan on gettin upgrades later on, but I am on a tight budget right now! I'd really like to run the VF30 as soon as its bolted up, please let me know something!!!!!!:confused:

Originally posted by ZEROYONSWRX
What is the difference between the level 2 TD04 upgrade and the VF30 turbo? Also can you run a totally stock car with the VF30 turbo? I plan on gettin upgrades later on, but I am on a tight budget right now! I'd really like to run the VF30 as soon as its bolted up, please let me know something!!!!!!:confused:

If you keep the boost conservative you can run the VF30 on the stock fuel system.

The level 2 TD04 will spool a lot faster then the VF30, the level 3 will flow a little better then the VF30 with similar spool characteristics. The level 2 is between the two.

I hope this helps.

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

What kinda of price are we talking about for the TDO4 level 2 upgrade? How much faster does the level2 spool then the VF30? What would be a resonible price for a shop install the VF30 and also for the level2 upgrade on the TDO4? What about the spring in the wastegate situation that was mentioned in an earlier thread, can you clarify this more? Sorry remember I'm a noob guys!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana:

Originally posted by ZEROYONSWRX
What kinda of price are we talking about for the TDO4 level 2 upgrade? How much faster does the level2 spool then the VF30? What would be a resonible price for a shop install the VF30 and also for the level2 upgrade on the TDO4? What about the spring in the wastegate situation that was mentioned in an earlier thread, can you clarify this more? Sorry remember I'm a noob guys!!!!:banana: :banana: :banana:

VF30 should spool around 3500- 3600 and the level 2 should spool around 3100-3200. The level 2 as stated throughout this post is $600 + $200 core charge, you get the core back once the old turbo is found to be in rebuildable shape, most are.

We charge $150 - $200 to install a turbo, as long as it's a direct bolt on. The price difference depends on weather or not the car has mods since it takes longer to do if the heat shields are in place.

The spring in the waste gate was the 16G hybrid which has nothing to do with this turbo.

About being a noob, that's OK we all have to start somewhere ;)

Talk to you soon,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by WRXTuner


VF30 should spool around 3500- 3600 and the level 2 should spool around 3100-3200. The level 2 as stated throughout this post is $600 + $200 core charge, you get the core back once the old turbo is found to be in rebuildable shape, most are.

We charge $150 - $200 to install a turbo, as long as it's a direct bolt on. The price difference depends on weather or not the car has mods since it takes longer to do if the heat shields are in place.

The spring in the waste gate was the 16G hybrid which has nothing to do with this turbo.

About being a noob, that's OK we all have to start somewhere ;)

Talk to you soon,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com THANKS ALOT!!!!!

Your very welcome :)

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

The newest version will be here in my hot little... well big hands, tomorrow and we will be running a series of test to make sure it does what it's supposed to ;)

I will post UTEC dyno plots as soon as they are available!

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

..........

Originally posted by WRXTuner
The newest version will be here in my hot little... well big hands, tomorrow and we will be running a series of test to make sure it does what it's supposed to ;)

I will post UTEC dyno plots as soon as they are available!

Nick

www.WRXTuner.com


what changed from the old design?

Originally posted by clamdip



what changed from the old design?

They're were two designs actaully, the original and the upgrade...

The upgrade didn't perform as expected and now they have gone back to the original design.

So it should be all it's cracked up to be now. The unit is really not a 16G as it were, this unit is better suited to the name Hybrid since it's the compilation of 3 unit's to make one amazing turbo. It does have 16G wheel but that's it :) otherwise it's got a lot of engineering into it.

I am sure this version will make everyone happy,
Nick

www.WRXTuner.com

I will wait and see some numbers with full disclosure of tunning items. I was so dissapointed by the one I have. Please please prove me wrong.

As it stands now I have a turbo that no one is interested to buy.

So as soon as you want mine let me know.

Nicd

Originally posted by WRXTuner


They're were two designs actaully, the original and the upgrade...

The upgrade didn't perform as expected and now they have gone back to the original design.

So it should be all it's cracked up to be now. The unit is really not a 16G as it were, this unit is better suited to the name Hybrid since it's the compilation of 3 unit's to make one amazing turbo. It does have 16G wheel but that's it :) otherwise it's got a lot of engineering into it.

I am sure this version will make everyone happy,
Nick

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how much will be the asking price?

We are not sure as of yet we want to make sure we worked out the bugs first then we will go from there :)

Nick

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OK this is the deal, I need 5 orders at a time on this turbo since we are machining the parts as we go for the moment. The turbo is selling for $875 each!

All prior issues have been resolved.

The turbo can also be outfitted with an 18G wheel for an extra $100.

This turbo is no longer going to be referred to as a 16G since it is not that. This turbo is a Hybrid and will be referred to as such :)


I have pictures and a data log lab from one of our customer cars we have been testing here in town.

So far by tuning we have achieved 314WHP on STOCK fuel with water injection! Stock intercooler, stock cat back, stock BOV, also a GP Moto header and Bosal DP.

We used data log lab to get the #'s and prior #'s were 227WHP so even if you don't like or trust the #'s from data log lab that’s still 87WHP gain still on stock fuel and no knock and running 25+ degrees of timing! with -8 on the fuel setting on the UTEC.

Oh yeah that's at 15-16lbs of consistant boost and this turbo will handle 24lbs of boost and still remain efficient! We have seen some spikes of 18lbs which drops quickly back to where it is set on the UTEC 15-16lbs.

I will post the pics and the dyno plots tonight!

Nick

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Side by side at the inlet! Just a small difference ;) Oh yeah and the two vacuum locations well one is actaul pressure to use with aftermarket boost controllers since they can handle the massive pressures, the lower one gives a 3lb lower reading for the stock solenoid which can't seem to handle this much POWER!

http://www.wrxtuner.com/images/nasioc/3.jpg

The exhaust side is a smidge bigger too!

http://www.wrxtuner.com/images/nasioc/4.jpg

From the top down take a look at the center section it's a fatty!

http://www.wrxtuner.com/images/nasioc/5.jpg

From this angle it's hard to tell whose who? except for the waste gate actuator anyways :)

http://www.wrxtuner.com/images/nasioc/6.jpg

Now here is the nice part, 314WHP from 227WHP only change was the turbo and tuning! Also take a notice that at the top of the power band the car is still making power with this turbo! We are limited by fuel at the moment and still tuning the car, we want to try and get 350 or more on the stock injectors :D

This thing is a BEAST! and remember there are many things on our test car here that hinder performance as well, (1) factory CAT back (2) Factory intercooler (3) stock fuel
So if you have these upgrade I can assure you, you will see way bigger gains!

http://www.wrxtuner.com/images/nasioc/dyno.jpg

Oh yeah the dyno stops at 6000 on the new turbo because we haven't been able to go as fast as we need to on the street to get a full pull on the turbo :( since this thing just FREAKIN goes byt the time we get to 6000 were going so fast it's scary :)

We are going to get it onto a dyno as soon as we can and let you know what we get after some more tuning. But for now this thing is ready to rock so don't hesitate to place your order!

Nick

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Have you been able to complete any kind of testing with the 18g wheel? If so, I would love to see the results. If not, what kind of performance are you expecting this turbo to produce with the 18g wheel? With the numbers you're posting, you may just have yourself a buyer! :eek:

Originally posted by SLCWRXRacer
Have you been able to complete any kind of testing with the 18g wheel? If so, I would love to see the results. If not, what kind of performance are you expecting this turbo to produce with the 18g wheel? With the numbers you're posting, you may just have yourself a buyer! :eek:

We haven't had anyone test the 18G wheel yet but I can say this we project the turbo will be INSANE!

May not have super low spool but will be in the neighbor hood of the PE1820 spool times maybe a little lower. But with sick top end power GREAT especially if you have a JDM swap that revs to 8000RPM.

I hope this helps,
Nick

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what compressor and turbine wheel does this hybrid consist of and what does it compare to?

The unit is using a 16G or 18G wheel what ever you wish the key is to the specially machined housings.

:)

Nick

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cool, thanks. looks like i have to do some fund rasing for this turbo. :)

how long will this hybrid turbo be offered? and is the price 875 or 800? would i be able to order this turbo a couple weeks from now? (through pm or through your website)

Originally posted by thetikler1
how long will this hybrid turbo be offered? and is the price 875 or 800? would i be able to order this turbo a couple weeks from now? (through pm or through your website)


This turbo will be a normally stocked item, as for now we are haveing to put in orders in lots of 5, the housings are made for us and the machine shop has to do them this way so think of this as a mini group buy and that's what it will be.

The turbo will be $875 from now on the cost of materials went up a little that is why it's a few $$ more :)

Nick

P.S. It is free ground shipping :)

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How would your stage 2-3 whatever compare to Monster TD04's?

that is what Im running now. Would it still be the same price(cant remember the number) to upgrade the turbo since some work is already done?

Some loss of spool is acceptable but want the best performance overall. Number wise I guess.

I autocross so I still need a fast spoolup

I hope this turbo works better than the lump of crap That I have sitting in my trunk. My Stock turbo was better. Can somebody host pics of this turbo for me.

Originally posted by optimalrage
I hope this turbo works better than the lump of crap That I have sitting in my trunk. My Stock turbo was better. Can somebody host pics of this turbo for me.

Hey also send the pics to me in an e-mail I will host them for you.

I spoke to your girl over the phone today and said that we would fix it for FREE :) I can assure you that you will be more then happy with the turbo when you get it back.

I want to apologize for the one you got it was not supposed to do what it did. As I explained to everyone before the one that you got was using a different compressor housing then the original design because on paper it looked the same. We were however WRONG, we are after all only human ;)

If you want we can also for the same price as the regular 16G wheel we can put the BIG 16G wheel in the turbo instead.

As soon as we get the turbo we will fix it up and send it back and I know you will like it.

Again sorry for the issue we will get this resolved :)
Nick

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P.S. Anyone getting the new vesions from now on will not have this problem ;)

Originally posted by 0260B4U
How would your stage 2-3 whatever compare to Monster TD04's?

that is what Im running now. Would it still be the same price(cant remember the number) to upgrade the turbo since some work is already done?

Some loss of spool is acceptable but want the best performance overall. Number wise I guess.

I autocross so I still need a fast spoolup

It will all depend on how you autocross, do you keep the car above 3500 RPM through the whole course in 1st 2nd and 3rd? If so I think it would work great if you drop below this I would have to say no, however with a BIG 16G wheel it will give you more usable boost between 12-18lbs where the standard 16G gives you more power 15-22lbs of boost.

Give me a call and we will see what we can work out.
Nick

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The customer with this turbo in town called me on the way to Jacksonville while tuning his UTEC he called me and this is what his description of 4th gear was:

"The head lights raise so much I am waiting for the front tires to tuck in and the car to take off!"

Jeff who is the owner of the turbo is in the navy and has compaired the power of this turbo to a jet taking off!

I have been in many of my customers cars that have 300WHP+ and this cars torque and power scare me! VF30 bite me! VF34 bite me! PE1820 Stage 4 336WHP on race gas BITE ME!

This thing with water injection, GP Moto one piece header and up-pipe, FACTORY CAT BACK, FACTORY INTERCOOLER, FACTORY DIVERTER (Blow Off), Bozal down-pipe is INSANE! I should be posting new Data Log lab sheets showing over 350WHP! on stock fuel!

We will also be offering the water injection kit for about $300 so that you too can keep stock fuel and run 19.6+ LBS on this turbo!

A freind called me yesterday and said "Hey do you know the guy with the blue WRX without a wing?" I said more then likley. He said "well he was on Aloma Ave", I said yeah that's probably Jeff, He said "well I saw him race this NEW Cobra today and he didn't launch hard, and the mustang took him off the line, I said yeah that sounds like Jeff he is worried about his STOCK tranny, My buddies said well about 20MPH Jeff's car was Pulling hard on the stang he heard Jeff shift into 2nd and catch the mustang, then he heard him shift to 3rd as he was passing the stang and leave him like he was standing still!

Oddly enough Jeff was on his way over to us and told me the story himself! Man what a small world we live in!

I just want to say this Turbo ROCKS!!!!! I don't say that about many things in this world but man it's awsome!

I will talk to you all later and bring you some more kill stories later!

Nick

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So you are saying this turbo can push 350whp with water injection and stock fuel (+UTEC) on pump fuel? If so I would be VERY interested. Can't wait to see those logs... How does it compare to the 18G ?

Dennis

I haven't put an 18G on a WREX yet so I couldn't say.

The unit so far has far surpassed what we have expected.

350WHP with water injection, Yes, on stock fuel Yes.

Talk to you soon,
Nick

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How much would a 16G rebuild cost? I will soon be getting my hands on an overseas '96 WRX TD05 turbo, however, this needs to be converted to a front entry turbo (i.e. it has a 90 degree inlet elbow to be removed) to fit the '02 WRX. Also, it is missing the wastegate actuator (unless i could use a TD04 actuator). In any case, would this conversion/rebuild still be possible? if so, could you give me an estimate of the reconditioning or any information what could be done, thanks.

The 20G is about a 6 day pre-order let us know if you want one!

Also we are checking on the availabiluty of the 18G wheel if you want it the cost would be $925 shipped.

Just to recap all of them:

16G Hybrid - $875 5-6day lead time
Big 16G Hybrid $900 5-6day lead time
18G Hybrid $925 lead time to be anounced
20G Hybrid - $975 5-6 day lead time

All prices are shipped prices :)

Also the local test car is now running at 19.6PSI without any knock or detination and pulls like a bat out of hell! AND IS STILL ON STOCK FUEL!

Nick
To place an order call 1-866-WRXTuner
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Originally posted by clamdip
How much would a 16G rebuild cost? I will soon be getting my hands on an overseas '96 WRX TD05 turbo, however, this needs to be converted to a front entry turbo (i.e. it has a 90 degree inlet elbow to be removed) to fit the '02 WRX. Also, it is missing the wastegate actuator (unless i could use a TD04 actuator). In any case, would this conversion/rebuild still be possible? if so, could you give me an estimate of the reconditioning or any information what could be done, thanks.

I will get back to you as soon as I can on this I will have to check.

Nick

Here is a direct link to the turbo's on the site for odering through PayPal.

Order your turbo from the site just click here :) (http://www.wrxtuner.com/default.asp?subCategory=28&vendor_id=25&subCategoryName=Turbos&categoryName=Performance&vendorName=RallySpec)

Talk to you everyone soon!
Nick

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Also the samco section we just added to the site! (http://www.wrxtuner.com/default.asp?subCategory=11&vendor_id=46&subCategoryName=Engine&categoryName=Performance&vendorName=Samco)

Umm, have I missed the info on boost response?

How does the lower end torque look?
Boost response ?

I can understand not showing DLL plots past 6k without a place to do these kinds of pulls, but show us some sub 4000 RPM plots in third or fourth to go along with the peak HP claims.

Is Jeff's unit a basic 16G or a 'big 16G'?

Originally posted by Concillian
Umm, have I missed the info on boost response?

How does the lower end torque look?
Boost response ?

I can understand not showing DLL plots past 6k without a place to do these kinds of pulls, but show us some sub 4000 RPM plots in third or fourth to go along with the peak HP claims.

Is Jeff's unit a basic 16G or a 'big 16G'?

It's hard to do a rolling 4th gear pull from near 1000RPM on the road ;) that is why you only see the plot when he is driving.

This is the standard 16G not the big.

I also want to add something here, these turbos are not just oil cooled they are also water cooled unlike others being offered for sale.

Nick

P.S. check these links out:
1. 300 WHP with Water injection (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=401286)
2. Jeff's UTEC Map (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=406489)

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pm me some more info on this stage 2.
can u run on stock fuel, etc...?

and how much is it?
if everything is right, ill definitly pick one up.!!!

Originally posted by WRXTuner
It's hard to do a rolling 4th gear pull from near 1000RPM on the road ;) that is why you only see the plot when he is driving.


:confused: I live in the middle of the SF bay area and I've found several places to do full third gear pulls for my tuning and Data Log Lab charts. I can understand not wanting to do pulls at high RPM (speed), but 1500-4000 should not be difficult. You guys don't have industrial areas or frontage roads?

Heck I've done 1500-4000 logging just leaving from a light, or driving down the street. You go a little slow, but as long as nobody is behind you, who cares. I don't think the request is ridiculous or difficult.

Third gear is fine, just give us some idea of boost response.

Even starting from 2000 RPM should be fine. I've done that kind of logging (2000-4000 RPM) in traffic on my way to work (traffic breaks, and I lag a bit behind to make some space, then floor it in 3rd or 4th) I've found starting at 1000 - 2000 RPM makes little difference in where the stock turbo hits 15 psi.

But I don't live in Florida, maybe the roads are different out there.

I agree it's not that big a deal but to get a more accurate reading I would want to have a 4th gear pull and that might be a bit tough since 4th is around 120 and going from 1500 in 4th all the way up to 120MPH might be a bit nuts ;)

I will see what I can get Jeff to do this weekend for us.

Talk to you all soon,
Nick

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Hello everyone,

Had anyone else buy this new 16G? Previews?
Whit dynos unter 4500 like Concillian whishes?

I would even hear ohter meanings on this turbo.

When does it soop up? (begin, full boost)


Thanks a lot!

subivoodoo

This is the TDO5 HS 16G i'm not sure if this is same turbo you are asking about. This map is at 15.5psi. Why 15.5, because the turbo would not go any higher. Maybe I got a bad one or maybe they are all bad . I'm just speaking from my experience.

boost

Originally posted by CK02WRX
This is the TDO5 HS 16G i'm not sure if this is same turbo you are asking about. This map is at 15.5psi. Why 15.5, because the turbo would not go any higher. Maybe I got a bad one or maybe they are all bad . I'm just speaking from my experience.

Can you give more details about your setup? I've seen cars with stock turbos dyno better than that. Your boost chart looks like your boost control system (whatever it may be) is the limiting factor.

From seeing what you have there I have to say it's not the same one or if it is one of the 3 we sent out a 2 months ago it could be a bad one and WANT YOU TO CALL ME NOW!

1-866-WRXTuner

I will have it repaired/replaced ASAP!

Nick

TXS Catless TBE
TXS up pipe
TXS TMIC
PE 650
Walbro 255 Fuel pump
TXS HPDBC
TXS Short Ram
Perrin Turbo inlet pipe
UTEC

I sent it back to the manufacturer over a month ago and am waiting for a refund. I would rather not metion the name of the company at this time.

I forgot to mention I replaced it with a FP18G.

Originally posted by x99percent


Can you give more details about your setup? I've seen cars with stock turbos dyno better than that. Your boost chart looks like your boost control system (whatever it may be) is the limiting factor.

Same boost control on my FP18G with on problems.

It's just odd because it looks like your boost curve hit a brick wall, ya know?

hey nick,
on the link you provided, navyblue said the turbo was ball bearing, did this change also from the one that i got.

lay

the Turbospecialties 16g hybrid has no problem pushing 20psi in 2nd gear...at or around 4krpms its making full boost and pulling like a SOB. What kind of 16g do you have that has this 15psi limiting factor?

Jeff

Yeh I know, but my fp18G peaks at 20.5 and only drop to 18.8. I can't wait to get tuned to 23 or 24 psi. I would have done it the first time but the turbo was just out so I wanted to wait to see how well it worked on other cars and not use my own as guinea pig.

Originally posted by NavyBlueSubaru
the Turbospecialties 16g hybrid has no problem pushing 20psi in 2nd gear...at or around 4krpms its making full boost and pulling like a SOB. What kind of 16g do you have that has this 15psi limiting factor?

Jeff
The sameone your talking about. Like I said in the begining "maybe I got a bad one". After spending my time and tuning money to get less horse power than my TSX stage2 put down the 16G left a bad taste in my mouth and I was unwilling to give another one a try. As far as I know I'm the first person to post a dyno plot on the turbo. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The turbo is not ball bearing and would be an extra $800 for the ball bearing cartridge :( we can do it if you have the $$$$.

About the FP18G is it only oil cooled as I have been led to believe? If so the ones we have are not just oil cooled they are also water cooled like the stock turbo or most any standard replacement turbo.

Talk to you all soon,
Nick

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Yes the FP18G is oil cooled only. If you use a good synthetic oil it will fine and there is no need for water. I'm sure most people use synthetic anyway, but if you don't then I would not suggest you by a turbo that is oil cooled only. Also let the engine cool after hard driving, again I'm sure everyone does that as well.

Originally posted by CK02WRX
This is the TDO5 HS 16G i'm not sure if this is same turbo you are asking about. This map is at 15.5psi.

As you found, not all 16Gs are the same. A lot depends on the housing used and other details. If you had the TS 16G, I never heard much good about that turbo.

Ideally a 16G should spool before an 18G, but if you look at your chart and the boost charts that people with the FP18Gs are getting it doesn't look all that different...until the 18G starts taking off.

This is why I was asking about boost response about this 16G. The FP18G fills in those who want vf30-ish spool and good top end, I was hoping this 16G would give less top end with better performance in the low end. I know the full mitsu 16G will, but that doesn't bolt up. The Subaru 16G will, but that is nearly impossible to find.

I'm still waiting for the right turbo... unless this 16G looks promising.

This is Jeff he is here in town with the new design of our 16G and this is his post about it and what we have accomplished with it.

Diary of the new 16G (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=401286)

I am sure you will find it good reading as we have been very happy with the results.

Nick

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I would like to see some dyno charts with afr.

Just a reminder :)

Here is the link to the turbos we have to offer, also current pricing :) (http://www.wrxtuner.com/default.asp?subCategory=28&vendor_id=25&subCategoryName=Turbos&categoryName=Performance&vendorName=RallySpec)

Talk to you all soon,
Nick
www.WRXTuner.com

Originally posted by WRXTuner
The turbo is not ball bearing and would be an extra $800 for the ball bearing cartridge :( we can do it if you have the $$$$.

About the FP18G is it only oil cooled as I have been led to believe? If so the ones we have are not just oil cooled they are also water cooled like the stock turbo or most any standard replacement turbo.

Talk to you all soon,
Nick

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so its 1600 for a 16g bb turbo?

no thanks

and you keep mentioning that is both oil/water cooled

why?

Originally posted by tEkkGOD


so its 1600 for a 16g bb turbo?

no thanks

and you keep mentioning that is both oil/water cooled

why?

The turbo doesn't need to be ball bearing it spools plenty fast. 3400-3500 in 4th gear and just a few hundred RPM higher in the lower gears.

The forced performance turbo are just oil cooled not both oil and water cooled. If your oil temps get high then your turbo gets HOT and that's not good because then it gets more and more inefficient.

Talk to you soon,
Nick

I was wondering what would this turbo be capable of with upgraded fuel pump and injectors. Would it be able to reach the 400hp mark? Would it need water injection to reach that number?
What are your thoughts on this?


Dennis

I would have to say you would need to do some real tuning to get 400WHP with this turbo we have seen it make 340 at the wheels at 18-19lbs of boost and the STi injectors were maxed out.

If you went with the PE 720cc injectors or STi with water injection I think the # could get close since it flows 605CFM that is about 370 MAX WHP but with water injection you might get higher.

Seeing as we haven't gotten to this point yet I can't say for sure.

I would recommend for the most efficiency at 400WHP at least the 18G and maybe even the 20G, you might be pushing the limits a bit with the 16G.

IMHO the 16G is a good stable 330 to 350WHP turbo. Add water injection and you are good to go all day long!

Nick

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I'm sorry, I got confused with the 18G. ;) So 300WHP shouldn't be a problem then with STI injectors and upgraded fuel pump right?.

Dennis

That would be correct sir :)

Nick

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PM'ed yah a while back did you get it?

I did PM you back and I think your box was full :)

I will check and see if I still have it and reply again :)

Nick

OK shoudl be plenty of room now

VF34 OR 16G?? WHATS GONNA BE BEST ALLROUNDER? I WANT GOOD POWER ON WHOLE POWER BAND... ANYONE RECOMMEND ANYTHING?

Originally posted by wrxtrev
VF34 OR 16G?? WHATS GONNA BE BEST ALLROUNDER? I WANT GOOD POWER ON WHOLE POWER BAND... ANYONE RECOMMEND ANYTHING?

I recommend using your caps lock key:lol:

If you want a lot of power go with the 16G and water injection :)

Nick

Sent the Pm again, coudl you give me soem details on teh stage 3 upgrade? just bolt on and go? Numbers etc etc

When you say 3400-3500rpm full boost...at what PSI is this? I'm very conserned with boost response. I just don't know if that is good boost response for that much cfm and/or psi.

Your mailbox is full so


I was just wondering if it was even better, your not open by the time I get home from work. Nothing is wrong with it, but i want more power. got everythign done and now the itch is there for something bigger.Looking at the 16g ,but I dont want to have to put injectors and management for a while down the road. Looking to get the best bolt on/no management turbo to get good power since management and injectors are way down the line.

Is that all you do is P+P and change the impeller?

Also wastegate chatter: is there any way to get rid of that or is it just a characteristic of the TD04? Maybe tac weld that cap on the wastegate down?

HeMan1320:
The turbo will produce 18-20PSI at this RPM and will give you around 12PSI at around 2900-3000 which for this turbo is still a lot of power the turbo comes on smooth and STRONG when it gets to full boost you are launched into space :) if you had wings anyways ;)

0260B4U:
The level 3 gets you to the point of needing the injectors and fuel pump and some sort of management. Now you could if you wanted get the water injection kit with the pressure switch and this would give you added protection from needing more fuel. However I recommend having something to monitor the engine to make sure you don't knock or detonate. It is highly unlikely that you would with the water injection but I like to be safe ;)

Nick

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Will the 16g bolt up with no supporting mods? And do you still send back the stock turbo?

Originally posted by 0260B4U
Will the 16g bolt up with no supporting mods? And do you still send back the stock turbo?

Yes the turbo is a bolt on the only thing you will really need to do is run new coolant lines which you can get at your local auto store for about $10 with hose clamps, other then the fact that it's much bigger and the nuts are harder to get to you shouldn't need anything else :)

The turbo is new so there is no core charge, Just to clarify the turbo does require at least a fuel upgrade of some sort i.e. water injection and some means of monitoring the car, I do not recommend just bolting on the turbo and driving off :) Call me if you would like to talk more in depth about it or send me your phone # and a good time to call and I will call you. Nick@WRXTuner.com

Nick

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Let me know if you want one, these turbos ROCK!

Nick

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Just so you don't forget :)

Any more user reviews or new dynos about this turbo?

Thanks!
By subivoodoo

No new informations? Anyone buy these turbo???:confused:

Are these in stock, or is there a waiting list? What about price with new gaskets for uppipe, downpipe and manifold?


Thanks
Dennis