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brunetmj
05-04-2003, 11:53 AM
I want to add a set of driving lights to be used with my high beams only. Because I have morettes I want them to be small and circular. I intend to mount them (depending on their depth) in the lower grill area, toward the center of the car, above the fog lights but below the high beams. I do not want to use a light bar. I know Hella makes a micro fog light that fits that requirement but I haven’t seen any small driving lights. My goal is to add more light directly in front of the car further down the road. I have tried to aim my high beams that way but they do not adjust low enough to meet my needs. Any thoughts or advice?

satrya
05-04-2003, 01:31 PM
Regarding the mounting place on the upper portion of the lower grille (valance), imho, the higher you can mount an aux high beam, the better. You can get away with a more horizontal centerline (of the beam) and yet provide reasonable lighting distance.

As you stated, Hella makes nice projector fog lights, but would not meet the beam pattern required for an aux driving light /high beam complement. In the past, I tried a pair of PIAA002X, which has a reflector design, and is marketed as an aux driving light pair. It is small enough to be mounted on the grille side piece. However, it didn't fit my needs, and it was only 35W (with the advertised 35W=55W :confused: ).

There is another unit, I believe it is either the PIAA001X or 004. It has about the same size, perhaps a bit (say, 1/2 inch) wider than the 002X. It is also a reflector design, but uses 55W halogen bulbs. Iirc, this unit is supposed to have a 20 degree (very narrow, spot-type) beam pattern, and from the PIAA website, it seems to suggest that it is ideal for aux high beam. I should note, however, that the 002X I tried had too much "leak" beyond the claimed, narrow, 20 degree spread, so I'm not sure how the 001 or 004 fares in this respect. Below is an old photo of where my PIAA002X used to be mounted on. I would imagine this, or even the top grille, would be more ideal for a high beam complement. Perhaps the "side-piece-looking" part of the morettes can be drilled for an additional aux light. If not, small lights could be fitted behind the top grille; I know at least the PIAA002X could be squeezed behind the top grille.
http://mechatro2.me.berkeley.edu/~satrya/pics/photos/wrx200210/piaa002xcloseup01.JPG
http://mechatro2.me.berkeley.edu/~satrya/pics/photos/wrx200210/piaacloseup02.jpg

For Hella lights, this is the smallest driving light I could find:
http://www.hellausa.com/optilux/productpages/model962.html
It uses a 55W bulb, but may be too large to fit inside the top grille.
http://www.hellausa.com/optilux/images/opti962.jpg

brunetmj
05-04-2003, 01:37 PM
Thank you. Thats exactley the kind of thing i am looking for.

satrya
05-05-2003, 01:13 PM
If you still plan to mount the aux high beams on the lower valance, then perhaps something a bit larger like these hella high beams available from Susquehanna may be ideal for you. It's probably similar / identical to the high beams of the morette.
http://www.susquehanna.com/susq/hella/images/90mm-00.jpg

brunetmj
05-05-2003, 09:08 PM
Thank You. I decided to try some PIAA auxillary lights you mentioned earlier. I will mount them higher in the grill area and see if it helps.

satrya
05-05-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by brunetmj
Thank You. I decided to try some PIAA auxillary lights you mentioned earlier. I will mount them higher in the grill area and see if it helps.

You're welcome. When you're done, I'd be interested in knowing how the light gets mounted, so pls post some pictures if you could.

Also, given my not-so favorable experience with a particular PIAA unit (performance/cost wise), I'm very interested with what you think about the PIAA you end up using. Specifically, I'm interested in your assessment on the increased "distance lighting" and how the beam pattern holds up (e.g. does it have a tight focus, minimal "leak" to the periphery, etc.). t.i.a. :)

brunetmj
05-05-2003, 10:28 PM
I will post some pictures and give some feedback. At this point I am uncertain how I will do this but when I get the lights I am sure I will have a better idea. I bought the PIAA LAMP KIT P1000 X-treme White 55W . Since my stock grill has some broken clips and eventually needs replacement I am not afraid to cut some holes through it. I have a real need for the best lighting I can get. First I am 54 which means I see less light through the eyes then say an 18 yo. I drive long distances on unlighted back roads that are infested with deer and other creatures. I recently put in HID lights and they are fantastic. I will never buy another car that does not have them stock. (I smell an STI coming on) .Anyway ,despite this, there is still one spot just above the Low beam cutoff but below the high beam pattern that I want illuminated better. So my situation may be unique but I will try to give some objective feedback

satrya
05-06-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by brunetmj
....I bought the PIAA LAMP KIT P1000 X-treme White 55W ...... I drive long distances on unlighted back roads that are infested with deer and other creatures. ....

I'm sure you'll help others by posting your asessment on the P1000s; I don't recall seeing a thread on "are PIAAs good?" that really tries to look at the objective measures that it may have. It's either "PIAAs are great" or "PIAAs are a waste of money", although my experience with the 002X leads me to not disbelieve the latter. I'm looking forward to your review.

Regarding the usage of this extra light; suppose your long drives through back roads are far in between, how about getting those rally light pods (the one with 4 big lights in a cluster)? The pod can be removed when driving through normal roads. I personally wouldn't do that, but it seems like where you drive may justify it. Cops may not even give you any problems if the rally lights are used in remote roads.

Another suggestion that may go well with one of your specified constraint on the size, is to use the P1000 you purchased, and fabricate a pod that attaches to the side mirrors. I know it looks somewhat flashy, but the higher elevation of the side mirrors (compared to the headlights) would probably be beneficial in allowing the centerline to be directed where your existing light array doesn't cover. No need to tilt the beam centerline upwards and light up unnecessary directions. The only thing about that position is your local state law may consider lights placed that high to be "off-road" lights, which must be covered at all times in public roads.

My 2 cents