I LOVE these cars....

Why is everybody [including the press] obsessed with the sedan?

The station wagon is the world's most perfect car!

Are there ever going to be any articles on the wagon?

p.s. you can check out my current wagon Here (http://www.williwood.com/motor.html)

wagonwagonwagonhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by Imprezer (edited February 24, 2001).]
Hey Alex, sorry about blowing out the table with my wagon obsession, thanks for fixing that. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif

[This message has been edited by SoCalSoob (edited February 25, 2001).]

It is all in your/their/my heads. I am currently driving a red OBS wagon, like the one in your link, though the WRX I ordered is a silver sedan. For some reason, the words "station wagon" just do not invoke a sporty image in my mind. SoA reinforces the perception by not offering the same bulges on the wagon, thus making it appear the more sedate of the two, even if it is not (by much anyway).

Speaking just to the difference in form, I do agree that a wagon is more practical in terms of versatility and carrying capacity than a sedan, but those reasons are not why I am buying a WRX.

CONCUR! Nice pic of MY02. Your 98 looks nice as well. My thoughts on a wagon: complete transportation beyond practical or theoretical improvement.

I like sedate. I like the stealth of it. Like when you have to merge and you suddenly surge past an unsuspecting "hot" car. I just think it's cool to have a practical, somewhat dopey looking (yet actually pretty pleasing to the eye) car, that can kick the butt of most cars on the road. (Don't worry, I'm not planning on drag racing at stoplights with Vipers - or any other car for that matter).

I of course also think that the benefits of having the wagon outweigh the loss of performance and aesthetics.

[This message has been edited by Aquavir (edited February 25, 2001).]

its all about what you want...i personally love the looks of the new and old WRX wagons, and the thought of a sleeper wagon is very cool, but i wouldnt *own* one... at least not when the sedan is less expensive (here in PR the wagon ended up being more expensive http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/frown.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/confused.gif )

i wouldve definately considered it if the WRX wagon wouldve retained its "cheaper than sedan" state

Wagonwagonwagonwagonwagon!

My new wagon:

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Yes, I just modified the Area 57 pics. But it is SWEET!

And I just sold my 96 Integra to help pay for it! Supersweet!


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[This message has been edited by IowaWRX (edited February 25, 2001).]

This is exactly what my car will look like:

no bodykit
17" Superleggeras
tinted rear windows
GC/AGX coilovers

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Wagons ho! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by RidinLow (edited February 25, 2001).]

I hope to see all you guys autoxing your wagons that would be damn cool. As for me I don't need the practicality of a wagon so I'm getting a sedan. I mean I've lived with a 2dr RS and have had no problems with room so this should be even better.

I was talking a friesnd of mine into a wagon and it looked like he was in to it.
When I checked on the weight difference and found that the wagon did not share the same track as the wagon, 1" narower than the sedan and 85lbs heavier, he changed his mind.
the weight is not that much a deal I think the narower track is. I was thinking wagon myself but I don't want to spend more money on the car just to get it back to where it should have been from the factory. Maybe later. He is now thinking Yellow WRX sedan, he has a lead on one where a person cancelled their order.I said man just go for it might as well get one of a very few out there.

The wagon is just too cool. It will be much more rare, as well. Does anyone remember the Audi S6 Avant? YOWZERS! The new S4 Avant is dropdeadgorgeous, but also dropdeadexpensive.

Following a test drive, I anticipate ordering a WhiteWRXWagon. MMmmmm . . . Wagon . . .

Wagons rule. If I get a WRX it will be a white or silver wagon. My dealer says he has one of each coming in the next two weeks that aren't accounted for. T-WRX I got to sit in a new $4 Avant at the Auto Show. Damn fine! Bright yellow tasteful chrome trim. $42K http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/frown.gif

Why is everyone always saying track is SOOO important, the difference is miniscule. There's many other variables that will affect a car's performance.

Here's the specs:

Track (front/rear): 58.5 (57.7 Wagon) / 58.3 (57.3 Wagon)

To look at it another way:
The Wagon's track is 1.36% smaller than the Sedan at the front and 1.72% smaller at the rear.

Also, the 22B has a wider track than the old Impreza model yet it's been said it doesn't handle as well.

[This message has been edited by Bugsie1 (edited February 25, 2001).]

I agree, wagons are very practical and also feel that the wrx wagon has unique look.
the sedan is very civc/corolla-ish with the exception the hood scoop.

I've always preferred wagons. More useful, low key, cheaper insurance and will surprise (and embarrass) those unsuspecting Mustangs at the stop lights. I was going to buy an S4 Avant but too much money so instead here I am. My silver wagon will be here next month. It seems like everyone I spoke to who got a wagon got a silver one for some reason.

Besides the track and the weight, are Impreza wagons equal in performance with sedans? My parents had a legacy GT and legacy outback wagon at the same time, both the previous series legacy. The wagon was too tail heavy, always sticking its rump out on turns. The sedan had the most perfect balance I've ever seen in a car.

Count me in the club..I'm also getting a silver WRX Sport Wagon. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif

I have another reason for getting a sedan over a wagon. Even though the wagon has more room, the thought of trying to keep the fur from my seemingly always shedding white german shepard out of the dark interior clock/carpeting is more than I want to contemplate. So, I am getting a sedan, leather and keeping the back closed off from any floating fur.

heres another one...http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif

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Damn, I wish you hadn't posted that pic. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif

Now I MUST have those factory 17" wheels at any cost.

Dean

Where did you get that pic? The 16" wheels aren't that bad? I'd love to see that same car from different angles. Any other pics? Wagons! Wagons! Wagons! Other pics?

Blue wagon for me as well. That shot with the 17's is nice, but IMHO, confirms that the car should be lowered, just a tad( Prodrive style)... and that the side skirts should most definately be painted to match the car...and that it definately needs the waist spoiler( again, all IMHO http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif )

FWIW, in the new STi Hyper Rev, they have a partial shot of a pre-production wagon with the fender blisters. Looks pretty neat, but I also like the fact that the wagon looks a bit different then the sedan( aside from the wagon part of course http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/wink.gif )

<FONT face="Impact">Good to know I'm not the only wagon freak out there</FONT f>http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif

Hey the main reason I'm even GETTING a WRX is because I need a wagon in a bad way. If SOA had sold a 2.5RS wagon back in '98, I'd still be driving that instead of my coupe, and I probably wouldn't even be looking for a new car...

'02 wagon here. Will be here in 2 weeks. I didnt like the new WRX at first... was very disapointed, until I saw the wagon pics... I fell in love http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif

peace

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Scooby South-

Beautiful photo...

Mmmmmm.... wagon.....

Check out these from
www.toronto-subaru-club.com (http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com)

These were taken at the Toronto Car show.

SWEET!

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I want those under-spoilers!!!

I know this has been posted before... but how can we get those in the states? Does anyone have part #'s yet? Is this already on www.new-impreza.com? (http://www.new-impreza.com?) Am I stupid?

hehehe.. peace

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And remember, since only 20% of WRX's made will be wagons, our cars will be extremely rare! Thus making us even cooler! [har har]
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<FONT face="Arial">I remember saying "if they only made the RS in a Wagon..."</FONT f>

I guess someone at Subaru was listening. I only wish I could afford to keep my OBS when I get my WRX. Then I could convert the OBS into a hardcore rally car! [kinda like the one that Subie Gal has a picture of.
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I wish more women were car freaks
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aaaaaaah.....wagons!

[This message has been edited by SoCalSoob (edited February 28, 2001).]

Here's a wagon for ya!
http://www.autonewseurope.com/2001geneva/subarublitzen.htm

Yes yes, the wagon is most definately it. That one I took pics of at the auto show was beautiful. I personally think that the lines are much cleaner on the wagon, has a very avant look to it, and the smoother lines actually work better with the headlights than the sedan.

Sorry, but the blistered fenders on the sedan just look kinda goofy, especially with the tiny ass stock 16"s. Then there is that wagon body kit, and the fact that it's huge inside, and the performance diff is negligable.

White wagon for me! But this silver one was nice too, which is why I'm standing next to it!

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Do you need more convincing?

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[This message has been edited by JaiMak (edited February 28, 2001).]

Wow!, we just had a pretty big earthquake here in Seattle. Must be because the WRX is comming to town. Anyway, The wagon does look "Avant"ish, which is cool. It doesn't look very much like the old Impreza Wagon in Photos. How about in Person.

So that extra weight came from the extended roof top


The rooftop wasn't extended. They have to count the rails on the top as added height.

--kC

Just out of curiousity, where does over an inch of extra front head room come from?

<FONT face="Arial Black">Text</FONT f><FONT face="Georgia">Great pics Macrac/Taimac. Wagons RULE! I ordered a WR Blue Wagon as my second choice to silver (All that was left for March delivery). The silver looks soooooo NICE! Wonder if I should/could wait to order that color? Talk about the WRX's release is hot in California. Many dealers seem to be selling out their allotments. OOOOhh that silver wag. . . </FONT f>

hey guys! the wagon is heavier than the seden ... so that extra weight came from the extended roof top and 2 extra glass? any structural (rigidity) difference b/w the 2? wagon any safer? http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif

and the wagon w/ body kit looks better in person than the pics! but does the stock wagon rear bumper differs than the seden stock rear?

Is it just me or does the wagon look way better than the sedan? The rear in particular. The rear of the sedan has a sort of econo-box look....at least in pictures. The wagon body kit numbers are available at the subaru UK website:
http://www.subaru.co.uk/mshow/access_main.htm

I gotta say I love the wagon the most and will be getting the wagon. But, I have a dilemma......WHAT COLOR?????? I'm turning towards the WR Blue but the Silver looks hot too. HELP!!!http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/confused.gif

Those pix of the silver wagon...damn it looks sweet. I was going with the WR Blue but now I don't know!http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/mad.gif

Someone should get a white wagon. No one will have that. And yes that wagons will be rarer than the sedan. But not as rare as my Yellow Sedan. If I needed the extra space the wagon has I would be all over it. But I don't so I am getting a sedan. But the wagon does look real high class. LLike I said before all you wagon owners best be going to autocrasses and racing.

Lord-Atak:

White Wagon Here!

I got one on order for the second allocation. (Hopefully mid to late April)

I cannot wait. I think Aspen White looks HOT!


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The pic looks like silver wagon to me!

White wagon here too! Prodrive front bumber (if it works with the wagons skinny fenders?), anthracite P1s, dual rear spoilers like above and painted sideskirts. Maybe I'll sketch one up this weekend. Anybody see the white Syms GT wagon in last months SCC? Man that is a sweet ride.

Is it just me or does this wagon have *gasp* A SUNROOF!

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What are you guys talking about ?! The wagon is an average looking vehicle at best. I see a AMC Pacer wagon. The back 1/2 looks OK (and maybe "avant-ish") but the front could have been designed 20 years ago ! Come on Subaru ! What happened to the design team that gave us the SVX. A WRX wagon with a longer and sleeker front would look awesome IMHO !

I like my Imprezas short & stubby. If they went for a long sleek nose, the car would end up like a Firebird, with a 5 ft front overhang! Looks great, but not so good for rallying or your local driveway http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif.

But seriously, yes, the front end is far from pretty, but I don't think it's because of length & sleekness. BMW's manage to pull off a great look without the lengthy look.

In terms of looks, yes the wagon isn't going to win any design awards, but I do think it is much more attractive (and versatile) than the sedan, which I found somewhat tiny inside.

I guess I just dig the wagon because I've been living with my coupe for a while now, and while it wasn't a problem before, I'm slowly finding the need to be able to cart more stuff around.

Wagons also have another advantage over sedans: Better front-rear weight distribution hence better handling. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/cool.gif

Old design Impreza Wagon (OBS for example) has a very good looking front end but ugly back end. Now they resigned and get a ugly looking front end and good looking back end. Subaru must have a very tight design budget so they can only put money on one end not the whole bodyhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif

Foxbat

HAH! Got my wagon VIN! 2060! Where's the WRX Wagon registry?

Est. delivery of 3/19, like most everyone else it seems.

My dealer Promises me that I will have my VIN and a definite delivery date tomorrow. Ooooh, I can't sleep!!!

Wagonwagonwagon!

Here is a pic of the wagon I have on order.


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Dang! A red wagon! Just like mine! Thanks for the picture!

I have a VIN, now just get me the car!

BTW, I have a feeling the wagons are going to be much harder to get in Colorado than the sedans. In the other Subaru lines here, the wagons outsell the sedans 4 to 1. People here like to carry a lot of outdoor stuff around.

Im biding my time for a Silver, white or WR Blue STi Wagon. When they build it, I will come...and buy it! We better get 6 speeds, 4 pots and 3 pots (f 7 R rspectively), 17's (standard), top and mid rear spoilers and all the goodness of 280hp, adjustable diffs and rock hard suspension! I can dream cant I?

I'm down with you STiShawn.. I too want a 280hp WRX wagon with a 6 speed and bigger brakes. Must have the top and waist spoiler.. I agree whole heartedly.

Jon

Waiting for my WR Blue Wagon is killing me!!
I am ready to strangle my salesman who won't give me a date or vin even though I am supposedly in the first allocation (ordered it on Jan 25). I got my wheels yesterday (they are sitting in my garage) I was actually rolling one on the living room floor making vroom vroom sounds. My wife thinks I am totally insane. She said "you better not love that car more than me!" I told her I would think it over.

Hey Jimbo02,
What type wheels did you get?

I got the Team Dynamics Motorsport 17x7 50mm offset. $170 per Rim. Got Nitto NT450 Tires for all season stuff here in Seattle. I have yet to weigh the setup so I will weigh them when I go home, but they look awsome.
Here is a link w/ a picture http://www.teamdynamicsusa.com/wheels/pages/motorsportsilver.htm

only difference is mine will have a little blue cap instead of red.

I had the chance to see the sedan and the wagon side by side (test drove one too) and IMHO the wagon looks much better. I'm going to wait and see the sedan with the bodykit. But for now the wagon gets my vote

William

Thanx for the info Scotto,

Unfortunately already bought the Tires. Maybe I will try the 555 nxt time around. At this point I would drive on day old jelly filled donuts if I could just get my car in my hand.

Jim

KURB21

I agree about the "Chariot of The Gods" thing, but I assure you that they won't change the body next year.

Silly me, if I hadn't bought a Forester last January I'd be getting in line for one of these. Make mine a black wagon; skip the optional BBSs and slap on a set on anthracite P1s. Tasty.

As it is I'll wait a couple years to see if they offer more content - or the Legacy Blitzen. Also tasty.

Ed

The wagons better weight distribution won't help its handling. The only reason it has better weight distribution is because they added weight to the back end. Thats a bad thing. To make it worse, most of that added weight is high off the ground near the roof. Plus there's the wagons shorter track and softer chassis. Granted, the real world differences between the two are probably very small and most people won't even notice. When driven to the limit the sedan may pull an extra few tenths of a G or so, but I doubt anything significant. You just can't say the wagon would handle better though. That's like saying the sedan would handle better with 85 lbs tied to it's trunk lid.

I've been thinking about the "softer chassis" on the wagon idea. I couldn't figure why the wagon would be more prone to flex than the sedan. Is it because of the lack of structure between the rear shock towers? I was also wondering if the roof rack would add any rigidity?

TIA

Yea, I think its mostly because the big open area that the wagon has. Where the sedan has support from the base of the back window. You could probably make up most of the difference with a rear strut bar, but you'd loose some of you're cargo area.

Tangent.....

I get mine This Tuesday!

WagonWagonWagon!

I won't be getting a WRX wagon but I am definitely down with the 'Wagon Clan'. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif
Actually when the car is paid off later this year, hopefully in goes a 2.5ltr engine. Oh Shyte! Lol! Wagons Rule! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif

Do any of you wagon freaks know where the stock stereo speakers are located & details about the factory upgrade?http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/confused.gif

Keepin it real... (when I chose the wagon)

I LOVE my WAGON (99 OBS), and I would never betray it by getting a sedan. NEVER! WAGONS ARE CHARIOTS OF THE GODS!!!!!!!!!!! I will be 1st in line to buy the MY03 wagon (hopefully theyll change those lights and increase HP, also flare out the fenders). Is that too much to hope for?

Jimbo,
If you are only concerned about rain and dry, the nitto 555 extreme is a much higher performance tire than the 450, and you still get good mileage from them. They are somewhat noisier perhaps. I had the 555 on my integra. I got 40k miles including three track days, and was very impressed on their resistance to hydroplaning. Traction, turn in improved, and the ride is decent for a performance tire. The Sumitomo HTRZ II's I have now ride a bit better, are quieter, but turn in is vague, confidense level is lower, and hydroplaning is worse inspite of the way it looks.
Great idea to put new rubber on right away!

Bluewagonbluewagonbluewagonbluewagon!

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Nice!
Wagonwagonwagon!

Maybe we should have our own forum!

OK, that one was for me. Now for the rest of you non-blue wagon folks.

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[This message has been edited by IowaWRX (edited March 10, 2001).]

Nice post of the wagons http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif.
The blue will be cool.
Those are wearing the 17's aren't they?

Just confirmed my love of wagons last night. Needed to utilize the back of the Jeep Cherokee to take a piece of furniture home from the store. Very glad to not be giving up all of that space to a sedan (especially one that doesn't look much better than the wagon). It may not have quite as much space as the Jeep, but for an all around utility/fun/kick-ass car, I don't think you can beat it...and I haven't even seen one in person! I can't wait till next weekend! I should probably go study for Oral Pathology...fun.

Yep, those are 17". I linked to the German Subaru site for these pics, in case you are wondering.