Have a crapped out TD04 WRX turbo?

Want to upgrade but can't afford a VF30 or other expensive upgrade unit?

Hate the lag associated with most other “upgraded” turbo’s? (especially a concern for most autocrossers.)

We are offering an affordable solution, our Monster TD04's are a lot of bang for your buck!

One of our units went on Shiv's dyno (fairly conservative from what I have seen) and put 205 to the wheels with only an uppipe and injectors, on stock boost!

On Knowledge Performance’s dyno, (another conservative machine) a Stage II put down 233 to the wheels, hit max torque at 3,000 RPM’s, and full boost before 3,000 RPM’s!

I have been running this same unit on my car for 12K+ miles at 17.5 PSI with stunning results. Nobody who rode in the car would believe it was a TD04 under the hood. (Note: for boost levels above 16PSI, you might need injectors, depending on your climate, humidity, and altitude.)

Max CFM will change slightly, but the efficiency range is pushed up a bit. It spools extremely fast, my car was hitting 17.5 PSI at 3200 RPM with our original design, and now, on our version 2, it is closer to 3,000. Approx 18 PSI is going to be the limit for pressure on these units though, whether with upgraded injectors or not due to the smaller compressor.

We have a few references available for those who might be skeptical about them, including WRXhackers.com ;)

Feel free to email me at deadbolt@aol.com for more information, or check out the website for more info

www.deadboltspeed.com

Pics: (Note that the pics are showing the units painted, the paint is applied to prevent rust in handling and shipping only)


http://www.deadboltspeed.com/portedturbo2.JPG

Here is a standard Monster side by side with a stock TD04:
http://www.deadboltspeed.com/sidebyside1.JPG

The process starts with a standard TD04 WRX turbocharger, we tear down, clean and inspect the unit. Any parts worn or even slightly out of factory spec are thrown away and replaced with new parts. This means seals, gaskets, bushings, seal plates, etc.

The units then go through the monster porting process, which usually takes about a full day to do correctly, and includes “port matching” for optimal flow. Then any additional options chosen by the buyer can be done, special clips, compressor housing porting, etc.

We also can perform the monster port and polish on your unit as well, we have “monsterized” quite a few VF30’s, TD05’s, PE1818’s, and even a VF22! :eek:
Feel free to get in touch with us for a quute.

We offer a complete rebuild shop for TD04’s and other Mitsubishi turbos with some of the best prices anywhere.

OUR FREE SHIPPING OFFER WILL BE EXTENDED THROUGH AUGUST 1st!

Feel free to email, DEADBOLT@AOL.COM with any questions.

Pricing:

2 - TD04 - Stock REBUILT WRX TD04 Turbocharger. Non-modified, completely disassembled, inspected, checked, cleaned, and then completely rebuilt, reassembled, and then bench tested. balance where needed, paint exhaust housing to prevent rust during shipping. Also includes complete disassembly and inspection of all parts, and replacement of parts damaged, worn or outside factory tolerances.

RETAIL COST

$500 - $200 Core charge = $300.00





2 - TD04 - Stock WRX turbo, with Monster port and polish**, balance where needed, paint exhaust housing to prevent rust during shipping. Also includes complete disassembly and inspection of all parts, and replacement of parts damaged, worn or outside factory tolerances. Coolant delivery holes in coolant supply banjo bolts are increased in size to allow less restricted coolant flow. All units re-assembled and bushings/bearings pre-lubed with high quality synthetic oil. All units are pre-run on a jig with compressed air and filtered synthetic oil to assure that no abnormalities exist.

RETAIL COST

$600 - $200 Core charge = $400.00

Payment instructions:
You will need to pay us the total price on the unit, when we receive your GOOD CONDITION OR REBUILDABLE TD04 in return, we will send you the core refund. Check our website for more information about the core refund process. :)

Is it possible to ceramic / jet hot coat the turbo?
It would seem to have advantages.

Originally posted by dbrier
Is it possible to ceramic / jet hot coat the turbo?
It would seem to have advantages.

Yes, it can be done at additional cost.

:)

What kind of performance could I expect from having a "monsterized" VF30?

Originally posted by DeadBolt Enterprises
On Knowledge Performance’s dyno, (another conservative machine) a Stage II put down 233 to the wheels, hit max torque at 3,000 RPM’s, and full boost before 3,000 RPM’s!


What did this 'stage 2' include? A Vishnu Stg. 2?

Originally posted by SonicYelloWRX
What kind of performance could I expect from having a "monsterized" VF30?

It really depends on exactly what you want done, monster port and polish with port matching? Or perhaps more, are you looking for bottom end grunt, or more top end power?

Originally posted by 03WRXMA


What did this 'stage 2' include? A Vishnu Stg. 2?

No it was a Stage II from Prestige Motorsports, If I am not mistaken, that is a 3" TXS turbo back, intake, MBC, & UTec.

The big story with these units are the torque numbers, and the immediate boost response:

originaly posted by crazyhorse
My car with turboback + headers + utec + deadbolt's turbo made 230ftlbs of torque to the wheels before i backed the IDCs down. Horsepower was a lil less because it's tuned for low end torque and the headers are designed for that.

Originally posted by deadbolt


It really depends on exactly what you want done, monster port and polish with port matching? Or perhaps more, are you looking for bottom end grunt, or more top end power?

Well from looking at the options on your website I would assume that both the hemispherical and light clips would give more top end power. Which options would give it more low end? I haven't quite decided whether I want more top end or low end power.

Thanks

I'm looking at picking up a VF34, is there anything that can be done to aid spool up so it comes on sooner? Basically I want the top end a 34 has to offer but I don't want to increase lag too much. I'm aware I have to give some up.

Currently I'm running:
-Perrin up pipe
-Helix downpipe (4"bellmouth)
-Greddy Catback
-Perrin Crank Pulley
-Samco I/C hoses
-Injen CAI

No boost control or ECU tuning. However I plan on getting the Accessport when it's out to reflash the ECU with Cobb's maps for the vf30/34 with injectors and pump.

So, can you help spool up on a 34?

Originally posted by SonicYelloWRX


Well from looking at the options on your website I would assume that both the hemispherical and light clips would give more top end power. Which options would give it more low end? I haven't quite decided whether I want more top end or low end power.

Thanks

I would recommend just a monster port and polish with port matching and compressor housing internal port and polish. I wouldn't clip a VF series too much if at all since they are already a little bit laggy. Maybe 3 or 4 degrees, but much more will really cut into the spoolup improvements that you'll get from the monster services. The VF30 hits pretty hard up top anyhow, most of the complaint that we hear is simply the lag associated with it. Most people that have had us work on their VF30's don't do anything with a clip, simply a ton of P&P work on it and they have all been thrilled.

Originally posted by rexorama
I'm looking at picking up a VF34, is there anything that can be done to aid spool up so it comes on sooner? Basically I want the top end a 34 has to offer but I don't want to increase lag too much. I'm aware I have to give some up.

Currently I'm running:
-Perrin up pipe
-Helix downpipe (4"bellmouth)
-Greddy Catback
-Perrin Crank Pulley
-Samco I/C hoses
-Injen CAI

No boost control or ECU tuning. However I plan on getting the Accessport when it's out to reflash the ECU with Cobb's maps for the vf30/34 with injectors and pump.

So, can you help spool up on a 34?

Yes, we can help just about any turbo, especially the IHI units, they are a commercial, mass produced unit, so they are not as perfect as something designed for a high end race application. All of the IHI units have a lot of room for improvement.

The VF34 already spools pretty quickly, but with some work we can make it spool almost as quickly as a TD05 or VF39, but hit like a VF30.

I think you would be impressed with what we can do. ;)

Hello:

What would cost and turnaround time be on a port and polish job for a VF34?

Rob

Originally posted by mantra1
Hello:

What would cost and turnaround time be on a port and polish job for a VF34?

Rob From the time you get it to me I can have it done, and shipped back out in 4 days tops. :)

How many CFM's at 14.7 psi
on the tdo4 upgrade
Rossario

Originally posted by ItalianoWRX
How many CFM's at 14.7 psi
on the tdo4 upgrade
Rossario

At stock boost levels the CFM would not be increased dramatically (at most 1%) since the standard compressor wheel is used, it will simply be able to get to that boost pressure at a lower RPM range than normal.

Well, don't stop your service anytime soon. I'm about a month away from picking up a VF34 and it will be sent to you brand new in the box for your "magic" ;)

Originally posted by rexorama
Well, don't stop your service anytime soon. I'm about a month away from picking up a VF34 and it will be sent to you brand new in the box for your "magic" ;)
Not a problem, I have been doing it for quite a while now, I don't have any plans to stop any time soon. :D

What is the charge to work on a VF30? I am specifically interested in increasing low end torque. Sounds like a great service.
Let me know.
OKD
:D

What options are available to me if I wanted to get the stock turbo re-worked for more CFMs and more top end grunt? What's the pricing on that?

I wouldn't mind a little more lag.

Originally posted by okiedude
What is the charge to work on a VF30? I am specifically interested in increasing low end torque. Sounds like a great service.
Let me know.
OKD
:D

For machine work only, $195.00 including return shipping back to you. If you want any parts repaired or replaced that costs extra.

:) Feel free to email me at deadbolt@aol.com if you have any specific needs on that one.

Originally posted by BeavisNuke
What options are available to me if I wanted to get the stock turbo re-worked for more CFMs and more top end grunt? What's the pricing on that?

I wouldn't mind a little more lag.

I can do a light to heavy clip, that will help out up top a little more. Also a port and polish on the compressor housing along with the standard monster upgrade will help there as well.

How much are you looking for? No matter what we do you are really running out of steam at 18.5+ PSI.

I'm basically looking for something that doesn't cause the car to nose-over from lack of power at high RPM like the stock turbo does. That is my #1 goal.

Originally posted by BeavisNuke
I'm basically looking for something that doesn't cause the car to nose-over from lack of power at high RPM like the stock turbo does. That is my #1 goal.

Ours will still fall off boost in the very high RPM ranges due to the compressor wheel not being able to keep up with the impeller, but it won't be as bad as what you are used to. It sounds like you are looking for sheer top end power, I would recommend a VF30 with boost controller, with my Monster Port and Polish service performed on it. That way you will have the extreme top end that I think you are looking for, but I will also be able to get it to spool much better than a standard VF30 with some good machine work.

:)

I am interested. What are the gains realized from your mods of the PE-1818F?

To run the rebuilt td04, do you need new injectors? or do you just need new injectors for higher boost levels? what kinda boost levels could you run on stock injectors? Also do you need any ecu work for it?

Originally posted by wrxdaddy
I am interested. What are the gains realized from your mods of the PE-1818F?

Although we have done a couple, the owners have not returned any hard numbers such as dyno results. One claimed that his car would hit 17 PSI 500 RPM's faster than before the modifications, while the other said that his spooled fast enough that he got the engine into fuel cut before he could shift.

I would estimate that the gains with a PE unit of any type would not be as great as those with the Mitsubishi and IHI units. The PE units are purpose built performers, therefore they don't have some of the inherent problems associated with th emass produced units. But, there is always room for improvement with any unit, so I would say that we would still be able to get you an extra 3 or 5 lb ft of torque, a drop in the RPM range where you will reach peak torque, and a still quicker spoolup rate than you are used to.

Originally posted by ebr0t
To run the rebuilt td04, do you need new injectors? or do you just need new injectors for higher boost levels? what kinda boost levels could you run on stock injectors? Also do you need any ecu work for it?

A rebuilt TD04 will be the same as the stock unit.

A Monster TD04 upgrade won't "need" injectors until you reach higher boost levels in colder climates. Our test car ran 17.5 PSI for almost a year on the stock injectors, but during cold weather I would recommend pulling the boost levels down to make sure the inejctors don't go static.

You can run a Monster TD04 without engine management, but if you plan on running anything over 16PSI I would recommend at least a stage II unichip if not something more like a UTEC or TEC 3 for the best safety and longevity for your engine.

Originally posted by deadbolt


A Monster TD04 upgrade won't "need" injectors until you reach higher boost levels in colder climates. Our test car ran 17.5 PSI for almost a year on the stock injectors, but during cold weather I would recommend pulling the boost levels down to make sure the inejctors don't go static.

You can run a Monster TD04 without engine management, but if you plan on running anything over 16PSI I would recommend at least a stage II unichip if not something more like a UTEC or TEC 3 for the best safety and longevity for your engine.

I live in Florida, so i dont think the weather would be a problem really... :D So with some engine management and some new injectors you could run this setup. Any real need to upgrade the IC either. Basically to run 17 - 17.5 psi in florida, all i should get is injectors just to be safe and some engine management?

Originally posted by ebr0t


I live in Florida, so i dont think the weather would be a problem really... :D So with some engine management and some new injectors you could run this setup. Any real need to upgrade the IC either. Basically to run 17 - 17.5 psi in florida, all i should get is injectors just to be safe and some engine management?

I wouldn't recommend an intercooler upgrade really, mine has actually made my car a little more laggy. :(

If you want to always run 17-17.5 I would definately recommend injectors and engine mgt although I have seen it done without them. Better safe than sorry. ;)

Hmm... Have you ever "monsterized" a VF35? If you could make it hold boost till the redline while preserving its spoolup characteristics, that would be awesome. All I want is VF30ish power with 1 bar of boost available at around 3000 RPM...

What can you do for a TD05? I have all ready converted the compressor cover to straight entry. I would like a standard(seals and bearings) rebuild. I would like it to spool as fast as posible. Have you done many TD05s?

Thanks
Mark

Originally posted by SysRq
Hmm... Have you ever "monsterized" a VF35? If you could make it hold boost till the redline while preserving its spoolup characteristics, that would be awesome. All I want is VF30ish power with 1 bar of boost available at around 3000 RPM...

I don't think I have done a 35 yet, but then again the only difference is that it is bearing instead of bushing. With some work I should be able to get you really close to what you are looking for. The top end might not be as aggressive as a VF30, but we can probably get it close. I wouldn't see a problem with getting you 14.7 PSI in the mid to low 3000 RPM range either.

Originally posted by mmurray75
What can you do for a TD05? I have all ready converted the compressor cover to straight entry. I would like a standard(seals and bearings) rebuild. I would like it to spool as fast as posible. Have you done many TD05s?

Thanks
Mark

Are you looking for a rebuild only or did you want the machine work as well? We can definately do both, although I will have to get a price on the rebuild parts as I don't stock them. The machine work shouldn't be a big problem either.

What would the machine work be? Also I think I need a new turbine wheel it looks like one of the vanes is chipped.
This is a used turbo so for my piece of mind I would like at least bearings and seals.

Can you PM me a number that I can call you to talk about what I need and maybe get some prices?

Originally posted by mmurray75
What would the machine work be? Also I think I need a new turbine wheel it looks like one of the vanes is chipped.
This is a used turbo so for my piece of mind I would like at least bearings and seals.

Can you PM me a number that I can call you to talk about what I need and maybe get some prices?

I will PM you the number, but honestly it is very hard to catch me on the phone, email is usually the best way. My email address is deadbolt@aol.com .

Thanks

I just got my "monster" installed and got a chance to run auto-x this weekend in ATL. The turbo is very impressive for this type of use. I am running a Vishnu Stg 2 set up and was running a VF30. For autox, the VF 30 had a noticeable amount of lag, especially in tight corners where you don't want to downshift into 1st. The monster turbo was much more responsive. I was able to run the whole track in second and still be able to get out of the tight corners. I was hitting full boost in the 3000 to 3200 rpm range.
On the street, I can tell it doesn't have the kick like the 30 had at 3500, but it feels much more responsive in the range that I drive the most. Overall, I think this is an excellent street/autox set up.

Tom

Originally posted by deadbolt


....But, there is always room for improvement with any unit, so I would say that we would still be able to get you an extra 3 or 5 lb ft of torque, a drop in the RPM range where you will reach peak torque, and a still quicker spoolup rate than you are used to.

When I send you my PE-1818F, what exactly will you do to it in order to accomplish this? A drop in the RPM range in peak torque and a quicker spoolup rate would be nice. Thanks.

Originally posted by wrxdaddy


When I send you my PE-1818F, what exactly will you do to it in order to accomplish this? A drop in the RPM range in peak torque and a quicker spoolup rate would be nice. Thanks.

I will do a lot of porting and polishing work on the turbo wherever we can determine it will make an improvement. As I stated, the improvement might not be a dramatic as an IHI unit or a Mitsu, but I am sure we can get some improvement for you.

I was interested in what a monster port and polish as well as a jet coat would cost on a TD05.

Thanks
Ian

Originally posted by mr2hutch
I was interested in what a monster port and polish as well as a jet coat would cost on a TD05.

Thanks
Ian

The Monster P&P would be $195, as far as the Jet hot, since that isn't something that I regularly do I would have to get a price.

Deadbolt-Are you using a FlowBench for your R&D work on the turbos? I was just wondering how you determined the optimum P&P.
OKD:D

Originally posted by okiedude
Deadbolt-Are you using a FlowBench for your R&D work on the turbos? I was just wondering how you determined the optimum P&P.
OKD:D

We don't have a flowbench in house, everytime we make a change we send it to a company that we work very closely with that does high end turbocharger work for almost every vehicle built. Its good to have "a friend in the business" :lol:

Deadbolt-Sorry about all the questions. Have you ever worked with
High Performance Coatings http://www.hpcoatings.com/
they are a tenant of mine and if I have you P&P my new VF30 I would like them to coat some of the parts. How do we coordinate that?
Let me know.
Thanks, OKD:D

Originally posted by okiedude
Deadbolt-Sorry about all the questions. Have you ever worked with
High Performance Coatings http://www.hpcoatings.com/
they are a tenant of mine and if I have you P&P my new VF30 I would like them to coat some of the parts. How do we coordinate that?
Let me know.
Thanks, OKD:D

Hmm... have not worked with them in the past, but might be worth investigating, thanks for the link. What we could do is have it shipped to them from here and let them do the coating on it. Not a big deal there at all. :D

What are typical turbine-to-housing clearances? I see specs of 0.001 to 0.002 inch in thickness for some of the thermal coatings, but remember seeing a couple of large drips in the exhaust manifolds I had coated by Jet-hot.
-JL

Originally posted by jlevy
What are typical turbine-to-housing clearances? I see specs of 0.001 to 0.002 inch in thickness for some of the thermal coatings, but remember seeing a couple of large drips in the exhaust manifolds I had coated by Jet-hot.
-JL
You would have to make sure that they didn't leave any drips or high spotst in theinside part of the housing or that could be UGLY. Very good point.

Here is a pic of one of the drip areas on my manifold. There are slao some drips inside the manifold, but the camera couldn't really capture them that well.

This will also be my first test of my pic posting ability.

-JL

edit:
I guess I need to work on that. Here's a link:

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/sjlevy@sbcglobal.net/lst?.dir=/Car+mods&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/

Templar just put one on here is his review:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4189426#post4189426

hey i pm'd ya. can ya get back to me?

or do i need to send it again


Erik

Sorry I hadn't gotten it yet. Please send your inquiries to deadbolt@aol.com or PM me using this screenname.

Thanks

pmd ya

Originally posted by ErikAnderson
pmd ya

Back at ya :D

Shipped out 2 monsters yesterday, several standard rebuilds in stock still, also a couple of Monster TD04's in various configurations. :D

Hope you still have a monster left !! Im paypaling today:lol:

Rudy:D

Originally posted by jagcars26
Hope you still have a monster left !! Im paypaling today:lol:

Rudy:D

Yep still holding one for you.

Originally posted by jagcars26
Hope you still have a monster left !! Im paypaling today:lol:

Rudy:D

Rudy, sent your turbo out today, I'll email you the tracking # if I get home in time.

When are you gonna start monster VF39's? :D

Originally posted by robroy72
When are you gonna start monster VF39's? :D

If you have one I will do it, I have done several, its just not something I stock since IHI discontinued all the rebuild parts. :(

ok..question...
I have Utec, stage 2 map....
HKS Uppipe
HKS downpipe
HKS TI Cat-back
Injen Intake
Hks ssq BOV

Anyways, i have been dynoed...
227 awhp @6,000 rpm
217 lb ft torque as above....
Boost set at 14.5...
stock fuel sytem...

Really how much further could I take this with the Tdo4 monster?
Looking to see how much more i could squeeze without going to a 16G or IHI Turbo upgrade?...
thanx....
:D

Originally posted by pfhlipwrx
ok..question...
I have Utec, stage 2 map....
HKS Uppipe
HKS downpipe
HKS TI Cat-back
Injen Intake
Hks ssq BOV

Anyways, i have been dynoed...
227 awhp @6,000 rpm
217 lb ft torque as above....
Boost set at 14.5...
stock fuel sytem...

Really how much further could I take this with the Tdo4 monster?
Looking to see how much more i could squeeze without going to a 16G or IHI Turbo upgrade?...
thanx....
:D
I'd like to hear the answer to this as well.

Well, not only would I think you could pick up at least 5-7 HP, and probably 10-15 lb-ft, but you are going to be getting to that power much faster. I would say your peak torque would come on at least 750-1500 RPM sooner. You will also be hitting peak boost sooner than you are now, which will increase low and midrange, and hold peak torque for longer. You should be able to run a little higher boost safely as well.

Originally posted by pfhlipwrx
ok..question...
I have Utec, stage 2 map....
HKS Uppipe
HKS downpipe
HKS TI Cat-back
Injen Intake
Hks ssq BOV

Anyways, i have been dynoed...
227 awhp @6,000 rpm
217 lb ft torque as above....
Boost set at 14.5...
stock fuel sytem...

Really how much further could I take this with the Tdo4 monster?
Looking to see how much more i could squeeze without going to a 16G or IHI Turbo upgrade?...
thanx....
:D
I have one of Jerry's turbos on it's way to me,,my mods are similar to you guys.
Unichip stage 2 16.5 pnds boost
godspeed upipe
Bosal downpipe
Sti intercooler
Samco intercooler hoses
Samco intake
K&N
Unorthodox pulley
Prodrive tail section
I figure im right around the same hp as you, 220 something?,,my aim is for quicker spool and more midrange,,After discussions with Jerry, his monster job on the TD04 seems to fit the bill.
I'll post a review after the install,,maybe next week some time.

Rudy:D

Originally posted by jagcars26

I have one of Larry's turbos on it's way to me,,my mods are

Actually its Jerry

;)

What type of performance gains would you get if you installed one of these Monster units on an otherwise stock WRX?

Mainly just increased low end torque? Would you need engine management to really take advantage of it?

Originally posted by drees
What type of performance gains would you get if you installed one of these Monster units on an otherwise stock WRX?

Mainly just increased low end torque? Would you need engine management to really take advantage of it?

You would still get better boost response, spoolup, and bottom end power. Although you are still going to be a little corked up due to the stock exhaust etc., you will still get a good extra pop. You wouldn't really need to run engine mgmt unless you wanted to really start upping the boost.

Originally posted by deadbolt
You would still get better boost response, spoolup, and bottom end power. Although you are still going to be a little corked up due to the stock exhaust etc., you will still get a good extra pop. You wouldn't really need to run engine mgmt unless you wanted to really start upping the boost. Cool, if I ever blow my turbo I know who's going to rebuild it now. :D

Originally posted by deadbolt


Actually its Jerry

;)
After all our emails where the he** did i come up with Larry?:confused:
Brain fart time i guess:lol:

Sorry Jerry

Rudy

I have a turbonetics t3/t4, what can ya do for me and for how much? How many days? Thanks.

Do you need it rebuilt or do you just want the Monster port and polish job done?

Originally posted by deadbolt
Do you need it rebuilt or do you just want the Monster port and polish job done?

Hopefully just the monster, but i have a bad feeling you would be calling me and telling me i need something rebuilt so both prices please. :D Basically whats the minimum i would spend and whats the maximum. Thanks.

It would be nice to see what a 14G wheel on the front side of this turbo would do...

-JL

edit: spelling

Originally posted by GimmeScoobySnacks


Hopefully just the monster, but i have a bad feeling you would be calling me and telling me i need something rebuilt so both prices please. :D Basically whats the minimum i would spend and whats the maximum. Thanks.

If it needs just the machine work, $195. I would take a guess at no more than another $250 to rebuild it on top of that but I would have to call and get parts prices after I saw what it needed.

Originally posted by jlevy
It would be nice to see what a 14G wheel on the front side of this turbo would do...

-JL

edit: spelling

It is a compromise, you lose some spoolup and bottom end, but pick up a little on the top, you also add a good bit to the price due to the extra machine work and the price of the extra wheel.

For the money you can do an IHI unit if you find a good deal.

I have a wrecked car with 1900 miles. I am going to take the turbo and send it to you. to make a monster turbo! How long would it take and how much $$ to enclose!
Thanks Kevin

Originally posted by gr8wheels
I have a wrecked car with 1900 miles. I am going to take the turbo and send it to you. to make a monster turbo! How long would it take and how much $$ to enclose!
Thanks Kevin

Kevin, no more than 4 days from the time I get it until it ships back out, and $195 including return shipping. :D

:huh: :lol: Uhhh..... I have been running these turbos on EBay and apparently there are a few people who have no idea what "ported and polished" really means.....

Originally emailed by punnisher@juno.com

WHAT!? That's not polished, that's a hokey dokey Krylon silver paint job!?



If anyone has any questions about porting and polishing please feel free to email me.

Hey I e-mailed you yeasterday about the monster port and polish, but haven't heard anything from you yet. Could you please e-mail me back

Originally posted by rex1308
Hey I e-mailed you yeasterday about the monster port and polish, but haven't heard anything from you yet. Could you please e-mail me back

I don't think I got an email from you, could you resend it? deadbolt@aol.com
:( Very sorry

I was wondering if it is worth it to do the monster port and polish or should I just upgrade to a vf 30 or 34. I want a decent amount of power but I want at least 230 to 250 to the wheels. Is the port and polish going to give me that? I have already on my car a turbo back, uppipe, headers, txs top mount, Injen CAI, apexi avcr set at 14 lbs, grounding wires, hks blow off valve, nitrous express intercooler chiller. I am also adding a utec injectors and a fuel pump. With all my mods what type of power will you think I will have. I have bacically a stage 4 but it will be with a monster port and polish and the replacement of any parts that I need for the turbo. Please give me your opinion. No matter what turbo you think is best for me I will be sending it to you for a port and polish. Thanks

Sounds like you are looking for sheer top end power. Even the Monster won't compete top end with a VF30 or 34. I would recommend getting a VF30 or 34 and then having the Monster P&P done to it to get rid of some of the lag.

what steps are taken for IHI turbo upgrades? are they just ported and polished, or rebuilt? i'm able to get a hold of a VF22, however, it may need to be ported and polished, with a slight rebuild. can you guys perform this?

Originally posted by clamdip
what steps are taken for IHI turbo upgrades? are they just ported and polished, or rebuilt? i'm able to get a hold of a VF22, however, it may need to be ported and polished, with a slight rebuild. can you guys perform this?

There is a possibility that we can rebulid it, depending on what it needs. IHI discontinued any rebuild parts or kits for their turbos so most things have to be manufactured on a per unit basis by a shop we deal with.

so you lower your sweet spot in RPMS he getting the monster? thinking of doing my stocker, now am I going to lose top end?

No, you won't lose any top end performance at all, the units efficiency is improved over the whole spectrum, so you can actually run a little higher boost than standard at a better efficiency rate. :)

I just emailed you guys, but I figure I'll ask on here anyways....

What is all the extras? Can you explain those for me? I'd like to have pretty much the most that can be done. Maybe we could work out a better deal. PM me or email me!


Also, I'd be interested in having the turbo exhaust housing coated by swaintech. They know me and my father there, so we get decent pricing. If you can shed some light on this for me.

Got your email and replied. :)

As far as shipping it to the coating company, we can do that for you with no trouble at all.

Yeah when you get a price for the coating add on let us know.

sent email with a special request.

Thanks!

Answered all emails. (There were a lot of 'em! :eek: ) I was away from the computer all day yesterday.

Best sales week ever guys! Thanks very much! I have been having some problems with phone service lately, so I have been having to visit and "borrow" computers to reply to emails, PM's etc. but I think I covered everybody. If I missed anyone, please feel free to get back in touch with me.

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I have an FP turbo that is not ported and polished. Its just running a bigger compressor wheel and a clipped exhaust wheel. Do you think it would be beneficial to get it ported and polished and maybe replace the exhuast side with a smaller clip or maybe not clipped at all.

Will the bigger compressor work with the stock exhaust wheel?

The P&P would definately help with spoolup and decrease in lag. I think they usually do an 11 degree clip on theirs, but I could be wrong. Less or no clip would get you better spoolup. The bigger compressor should work fine with the stock exhaust wheel, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't.

So you can do any turbo correct?

Originally posted by 0260B4U
So you can do any turbo correct?
Yes, we can do any turbo, I have even done a couple of "Non-Subie" units lately.

OK Im still learning exactly how a turbo works, so say I sent it in to get P+P, woudl it be benificial to also clip the fan?

or could you turn it from a 13g to a 16g? Not quite sure how that stuff works yet. I know the SRT-4 shares the same TD04 housing but is a 16g

Help the slow guy out :lol:

It will help the top end power out a bit to clip the fins. I personally don't care for the TD04 with a 16G wheel, I did one and was unhappy with the results of the spoolup. You get almost identical results to do a VF30, but then porting and polishing the 30 will make it spool better.

Well im also thinking cost, and what are the best overall options with the stock turbo and not having to run any kind of management or injectors.

Originally posted by 0260B4U
Well im also thinking cost, and what are the best overall options with the stock turbo and not having to run any kind of management or injectors.

Well if you figure in the cost of the wheel and the machine work your cost is giong to be comparative to a good deal on a VF30 as well.

Ok, so gettign the P+P and perhaps a slight clip to increase top in but still get a faster spool?You just did a friend of mines TD04 and his was clipped. Not in the car yet. But I'm putting this on my list of gettign soon mods. So trying to figure out the best route.


If I slapped a VF30 on the car I'd have to have management, injectors and fuel pump wouldn't I?

some one out there will tell you no and that they know someone who did it w/ no problems.... but the answer is YES you will not run that set up safely and properly w/ out engine management.

Originally posted by 0260B4U


If I slapped a VF30 on the car I'd have to have management, injectors and fuel pump wouldn't I?

Yes most definately.

Deadbolt, I sent you an email.
Thanks OKD
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Just shipped out 10 today, you guys really have me hopping!

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You mentioned options in the first post, what else could be done with what effects?

Porting the compresor housing?

I know what cliping will do. and about changing out internals?

Originally posted by 0260B4U
You mentioned options in the first post, what else could be done with what effects?

Porting the compresor housing?

I know what cliping will do. and about changing out internals?

Yes I can port the compressor outlet as well. As far as changing internals, I have been testing different ones, even the ones that other companies say give great results and honestly I have yet to be really impressed by any of them.

Most of the different wheels out there are limiting the spoolup to the point that you are better off for the overall gains of an IHI unit with my upgrades done.

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Now doing to compressor housing help spoolup even more?

And what would that cost on a already P+P TD04 with an 8 degree clip(think that is the spec)

Originally posted by 0260B4U
Now doing to compressor housing help spoolup even more?

And what would that cost on a already P+P TD04 with an 8 degree clip(think that is the spec)

It won't really have much affect on spoolup, but will add a little more top end.

If we do a compressor outlet port and polish while the unit is here it is $45.00 it is $70.00 for a unit sent in to us.(The reason for the price difference is that on the one we have here, it is already torn down, the other we have to completely disassemble the unit again.

PM'ed yah

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Originally posted by deadbolt
Just shipped out 10 today, you guys really have me hopping!

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is mine part of that shipment? please say yes!! :banana:

Originally posted by G-force


is mine part of that shipment? please say yes!! :banana:

I think so, do you live on Spring St?

Originally posted by deadbolt


I think so, do you live on Spring St?

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Yep that was you then. :D

a saw a previous post about p & p on VF series turbos. ~$175 i think you said.

Have you guys done these, and what have the results been. I'm looking into a vf30 or vf34.

Goals:
>270whp
full boost no later than 3500rpm in 4th gear.

Originally posted by MikeWRX-NJ
a saw a previous post about p & p on VF series turbos. ~$175 i think you said.

Have you guys done these, and what have the results been. I'm looking into a vf30 or vf34.

Goals:
>270whp
full boost no later than 3500rpm in 4th gear.

$195 was the price. We have done about 20 IHI units, including a couple of STi VF39's and have yet to have the first complaint.

As far as your HP level goal, the numbers will vary from dyno to dyno, the one I regularly use is a pretty conservative one, for example, a brand new STi, with 4500 miles only put down 235 WHP, whereas others have seen 265, so it is hard to say whether or not that goal is obtainable, I personally think you might be shooting a little high if it were measured on the dyno we frequent.

With a VF34 I think your spoolup goals are obtainable, with a 30, I think you are close (within 200 or so RPM)

I hope this answers your questions, if not, feel free to get back with me any time.

Anyone have any "meat" numbers for us with this turbo? For instance, I have this, this, and this done to my car, and I was running such-and-such-a-time. Put in the new turbo, and OMG :eek:, now I am running this with just the turbo change.....
Thanks...

Originally posted by trevman2
Anyone have any "meat" numbers for us with this turbo? For instance, I have this, this, and this done to my car, and I was running such-and-such-a-time. Put in the new turbo, and OMG :eek:, now I am running this with just the turbo change.....
Thanks...

To be honest nobody has given me any "drag" times or performance numbers for 1/4 or 1/8 mile stufff. :( Sorry.

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sent an email with a couple questions :)

Thanks

Nick

Well I will be installing one tomorrow, but a turboback/uppipe/inlet hose will be going in at the same time.

So the track times may not be that accurate.:huh:

Back online now guys, I think I managed to answer all the emails, if I missed anyone, write me back. :D

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Thanks

I should be sending you my 34 this week :) I know that doesn't help anyone but I'm excited.

Hey im interested in getting the P&P done.....im gonna be ordering my new turbo soon and was wondering if i could jsut have them send it directly to you......
I cant decide which turbo would be better.....i want quickest possible spool and response, but wanna reach low 1/4 mile times
possibly low 12's.......
which turbo would u recomend.......i also heard of people using hybrid turbos....such as the to4e's....
what are ur thoughts on these turbos and whats the best way to go for power but quickest spool

Yes, you can have it sent directly to us, when you are ready just email me and I will send you the address. I just did a couple of VF39's (yes the STi turbo) that the guys put onto the 2.0L with really good results. I would really need to see your other mods, or planned mods to make an educated guess on your goals, I would personally think that a VF22 would get you the 1/4 times you are looking for but the spool is a little slow. A well tuned VF30, or 34 would be pretty good as well, although depending on your other mods might leave you just slightly short of your 1/4 time goals. I have seen nice reports back from the owners of those that we have worked on.

Originally posted by crzycujo
Hey im interested in getting the P&P done.....im gonna be ordering my new turbo soon and was wondering if i could jsut have them send it directly to you......
I cant decide which turbo would be better.....i want quickest possible spool and response, but wanna reach low 1/4 mile times
possibly low 12's.......
which turbo would u recomend.......i also heard of people using hybrid turbos....such as the to4e's....
what are ur thoughts on these turbos and whats the best way to go for power but quickest spool

here is what i plan on having in my car....
~mrt top mount intercooler
~apexi intake
~turboxs dp
~perrin or turboxs uppipe
~sti injectors
~UTEC piggyback
~custom flowmaster muffler 3" axle back dual tip
~turboxs exhaust piping
~walbro fuel pump
~Forced Performace 18g
or....VF34
???maybe NOS....jsut 75-100 shot?????

I was wondering if anyone knew much about the hybrid to4e turbos.....i heard that it gives monster power....i dunno about spool up

You think i can be running low 12's....and which turbo would get me the fastest times with that setup

if your really want to make big power go FMIC instead of TMIC... and if you go 18G think bigger than STI for injectors.