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haven
09-21-2000, 03:44 PM
I will attempt to type this article from todays autoweekly.
"Subaru is planning to revive the svx name on a radical new four-wheel-drive coupe that's planned for launch in 2003.
The two-door will ride a modified version of the next impreza platform and rumor says it will have a radical-looking, all-steel body aimed at answering criticism of subaru's bland styling efforts in recent years.
Described by subaru sources as japan's answer to popular audi tt, the coupe is likely to be offered with a wide range of engine choices, including the impreza wrx's rally-bred, turbocharged 2.0 liter flat four. with 280 hp, it promises to endow the coup with tt-slaying performance."
It also says something about maybe using the 6-cylinder.
I hope everyone finds this interesting.

Turk
09-21-2000, 03:54 PM
whoooa boy, that means it will compeat with S2000s, Z3s, and Boxters too. Oh well it probably wont even come to the US http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/frown.gif or is that an article for the US?

Turk http://www.clubimpreza.com

Imprezer
09-21-2000, 03:57 PM
Hmm, I would be very carefull comparing S2000 to a Boxter. Even a Z3 isn't a match for a Porsche's roadster. Maybe the M Coupe or M Roadster, but definetely not a regular Z3.

SFsube
09-21-2000, 04:00 PM
Porsche Smorsche...I've seen well driven S2000's hand everyone their ass at Sears, T'hill and Laguna Seca, especially Boxster chumps.

I think the Boxster is a lame substitue for the Carrera convertibles.

Just my 2c...

SF

eugenekid
09-21-2000, 04:01 PM
SVX = Automatic tranny

Turk
09-21-2000, 04:02 PM
oops my fault, Was thinking the M roadster but wrote Z3:rolleyes. Practically the same looking car just different performance.

Turk http://www.clubimpreza.com

Mizen
09-21-2000, 04:16 PM
OH man oh man oh man... I love the SVX. If it comes here, if it has a manual tranny - THAT I'll save my money for! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/biggrin.gif

Ovaltine
09-22-2000, 01:12 AM
Hmm... here's an idea: what if Subaru decides to make the new Impreza as a 4-door sedan only like the Lancer (there's no 2-door Lancers, right?). And the upcoming SVX carries all of Subaru's coupe sales, since it might be built on the same chassis?

Kostamojen
09-22-2000, 01:38 AM
Oval: That makes sense since the coupe/roadster market is still on fire and unlikely to slow down anytime soon...

As for S2000 vs. M-coupe vs. Boxter vs. Etc., go read the Motor trend article, Boxter is still the king... especially the S

Imprezer
09-22-2000, 01:40 AM
Yep. Boxster S is the kind of Roadsters, I think. It just doesn't get better. Carrera Cabriolet is a different animal.

peepshow
09-22-2000, 05:10 AM
True, Boxster S is king of roadsters, BUT..... Boxster S = ~$50k, S2000 = ~$35k. I'll take the S2000 and put $10k of the $15k into mods and walk all over any Boxster! Ask Adam Bloom. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/biggrin.gif

Digital_Boy
09-22-2000, 05:45 AM
DSMAWD, in *theory* the S2000 is $35K. If you can find a Honda dealer who'll actually sell one for MSRP, please let me know. The cheapest I've seen them locally is $50K, because the dealers around here are felch guzzling assclowns. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/frown.gif

When the dealers stop gouging like bitches for them, then you might have a point.

DLC
09-22-2000, 07:33 AM
FIND an S2000 then you can talk about buying one.

As for me, i'll take the Porsche anyday whether or not it's faster or quicker than the Honda.

A Honda is a Honda is an Acura.

Porsche Is.

Gambit
09-22-2000, 07:42 AM
OK since the S2k's inception what last year,I've seen more of them than our Scoobies! Let alone the Boxster S (not the regular Boxster mind you!).
I'd much ratehr arrive in a Boxster S anytime than a Civic roadster. Dang the front end sure looks like a civic!

MikeYOX
09-22-2000, 07:58 AM
The cheapest I've seen them locally is $50K, because the dealers around here are felch guzzling assclowns

That's how it is with all special edition cars. The Cobra Rs are going for 70K-90K(20K-40K over MSRP), the Prowlers are going for 70K(30K over MSRP), and when the NSX first came out, dealers were charging 110K for them(50K over MSRP). Dealers will charge what they know they can get, because with limited edition cars, selling is not a matter of if, but when, so they know they can charge whatever they please.

JaiMak
09-22-2000, 08:04 AM
felch guzzling assclowns

That's priceless!

VALENTA
09-22-2000, 08:34 AM
I am not impressed at all with the M Roadster since a fellow member (2.5 RS Turbo) and I (2.5 RS Stock http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/biggrin.gif) were driving on the highway and he was keeping up with the M Roadster like I keep up with Ladas! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/biggrin.gif

I was really impressed by my friend's car since he was only driving at 6 or 7 PSI!

I'll take a 2.5 RS Torbocharged anytime before buying the new Impreza or an SVX!

Just my 2 cents!

Cheers
Jan

matt7184
09-22-2000, 05:55 PM
CObra Rs are going for 120+ now since many were sold already, but S2000s go for less than MSRP in Miami now. There just sitting at the dealers lots.

2.5 RRRRS
09-22-2000, 06:07 PM
My dad found TWO dealers within an hour of where he lives that would sell him an S2000 for retail. One he had to wait for (a 2001 yellow) and one he could get immediately; a red one with no miles on it! He bought the red one and my opinion of S2000's are that they are a steal at retail and they kick ass. Cool! That's one advantage of living in a tiny town.

Jeremy
'99 Black RS

copec
09-22-2000, 06:41 PM
kostamojen, in EVERY artical that I have read the S2000 wins performance wise over the boxter S the M-roadster and the TT-convertable

I suscribe to road and track, and car and driver, even though it didn't win their contest for best car it won performance wise in every test.

not hard to believe since it has the best power the weight ratio, and a perfect 50/50 weight distribution.

sure I love the boxster, but performance wise the S2000 takes the crown

Kostamojen
09-23-2000, 04:00 AM
I just like my custom boxter-s in Need For Speed Porsche (supercharged hehe) and I think you could do that in real life ($$$$) and of course that doesnt compair with the S2000 price, but people on the BBS are compairing the new WRX with the S4...

Anyway, for the price of an S2000 i would rather get a car with some more "car" included, and one that you didnt have to rev the F*** out of to drive. $35k give me a 330ci or IS 300 thank you...

MikeYOX
09-23-2000, 04:43 AM
I like everything about the S2000, except for its power curve. That whole econobox-till-7000rpm crap is really stupid. That thing couldn't move for crap without driving that car like you want to break it. Low end power and torque are nearly non existant. The Porsche Boxster on the other hand has a good power curve. I really liked it, but I couldn't fit in either of them with the top down.

2.5 RRRRS
09-23-2000, 08:39 AM
Hmmmm. When I drove it it was VERY driveable around town. No prob at all. As easy as my RS or easier to drive. And the high redline is fun as hell when you flog it, like a motorcycle (almost). Very addicting. Never drove a Boxter yet though. I think I'd still choose the S2000 because of the price and rarity.

IsraelGT
09-23-2000, 04:22 PM
Kostamojen,
you said: "but people on the BBS are compairing the new WRX with the S4...",
well I'm not comparing it I'm telling you the S4 is a "not a good car" like "Autocar" said, when comparing it to a P1.
Audi don't have a descent driver's car, and I'll take the WRX over the Audi anyday,
maybe one day you'll meet a WRX on the road and then you'll understand what is the WRX all about.
You make me laugh an overrated (in the U.S), overpriced, slower (5.6 Vs. 5.2 sec 0-60) and less of a handler, and you dare compare the S4 to the WRX?????
Too bad the RS4 with all it's power lost to a Skyline, scooby and got only 3.5 stars in "evo", "Car" & "Autocar",
Ah an is slower than a 280 STI (4.9 for the Audi Vs. 4.6 STI).
Get a life.

Imprezer
09-23-2000, 09:03 PM
Porsche or Honda? Porsche or Honda? Porsche or Honda? Wait a sec, did I say Honda? ??? Porsche or Honda?!?!? PORSCHE!!!

Digital_Boy
09-23-2000, 09:26 PM
Well, I have to chip in again on the S2000. I just went for some fun runs at the local auto-x, and DAMN! Yes, you have to rev them to get them to move, but they can zing off the rev limiter all day long. If I had the moolah, I'd quite happily park an S2000 in the garage next to the turbo Scoob. They fit me nicely, snug cockpit, but not restrictive. It's a sports car built to seat us big Americans in comfort.

True, I think a supercharger or turbo would make this car into a mini-supercar.

why?
09-24-2000, 12:31 AM
If this svx is what is seems Autoweek says it will be, which is a 2 door 280 hp WRX, it will blow a way both a boxster and an S2000, besides, who wants a car that you have to drive like you hate? But the S2000 does look nice, of course I could never fit in one, I am way too tall, I'm sure.

Dolphin Overton
09-24-2000, 01:25 AM
I read that in an S2000 if you drop the clutch around 2000 RPM it does 0-60 in 11 seconds. To get it to go anywhere near quick you have to bring the RPMS waaaaay up.
That sucks.

Also Its a honda.

Porsche there really is no substitute.
Except maybe a Type R WRX, or 22B

Kostamojen
09-24-2000, 02:31 AM
Israel:
Um, Im not sure why you wrote that... I guess you think I done like the WRX or something? That I was trying to say something about which one was better?

No! I was just using it for reference for compairing different price vehicles.

I have no interest whatsoever in the S4!!! And if I can afford it, im going to get the new WRX! I totally respect them and always have since I first learned about them. But the S4 is what, $10k more than the MY2002 WRX... for that much money I would be looking at an M3 not a S4 (despite the AWD... who would drive a near $40k car off roads unless they were racing it anyway?) Heck, for $31k I would buy a IS 300 (dont argue with me on this one please, its just my favorite car for that price range)

Next time, please dont assume what side someone is taking unless they have taken one...

10th Warrior
09-25-2000, 05:58 PM
um, last i checked, honda makes some damn fantabulous automobiles. the NSX is one of my favorite cars ever, the S2000 is probably my favorite roadster (and i love the front end) and, being a resident of G Stock, dare i even invoke the name of the unspeakable front driver? anyway, for the kind of rediculous amounts of money were talking about in this thread, i'd just make the scooby i have match the one in my dreams http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/biggrin.gif
oh, and as far as the IS 300 goes, Jewbaru told me yesterday that the Supra TT engine bolts in except for the intercoolers. now THAT would be a car, at least next year when it comes in a manuel.