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View Full Version : Anyone Done a Fourwheel Powerslide?
No Go 11-02-2003, 09:57 PM Well, experimenting with the Subaru and what do you know, those slides the rally guys do can be done by Joe Q Public!
Very impressive stuff. The lateral force seems quite high with tires sliding sideways and spinning in the direction you want to go.
Only accomplished 3 of any significance...but oh what fun...end up laughing like a mad man afterward. :)
Now if I could make that happen on an autocross course...:(
2003 sedan 11-02-2003, 10:13 PM Yes I have!:banana:
wgknestrick 11-02-2003, 10:18 PM I did a one wheel powerslide on my unicycle.
Daredevil 11-02-2003, 11:34 PM yes i have
and i can
its not super hard
WRX 2002 11-03-2003, 03:34 AM I can do it in 5th gear at Road America through the kink at over 100mph. techically it might be clasified as a 4 wheel drift...but still fun.
Except once when I left the track at the kink and ended up on the grass at 100mph following the concrete wall.
That is also a lot of fun...:eek:
N.
RichQY 11-03-2003, 03:48 AM hahaha.. i did a 4 wheel slide induced by Brembo Lockup which ended up kissing side of a mountain...
does that count?
KoneKiller 11-03-2003, 08:56 AM I do them all the time while autocrossing... not sure it's fast, but it sure is fun!
Amazing how you can acheive both power understeer AND power oversteer in the same turn. Each your heart out, Petter!
Saturday I went for a drive in the mountains. The frost and sleet we've been getting meant there was sand all over the roads. The ice and rain had completely dried the day before. I came upon a right hand hairpin on an inside valley (so I could see nothing was coming around the corner for about 300 yards). I had to do it. So I stomped on the brakes with a little left steering input, turned in, and rolled on the gas. It oversteered a little more than I expected, so I ended up using both lanes, and overcorrecting a bit more than I have had to on a dry track (On the dry track the tires only let go for a split second, not enough time for me to correct, much less overcorrect). So I fishtailed twice, before I hit a patch of clear pavement and shot down the road like nothing happened.
I'm sure you could do it on dry pavement, but the car reacts so quickly that I probably would have ended up tumbling down the mountainside. On sand it was like slow motion. I think I need to put a tape ring on the steering wheel, since it doesn't take much input to overcorrect. Good thing I didn't pull the handbrake.
Scuba Steve 11-03-2003, 12:17 PM Yes, drifting is fun :D (http://ps.usa.net/~dgiadone/vids/stidrift.mpg)
STI_XB9R 11-03-2003, 05:06 PM It is fairly easy on box turns on the Auto-x course. About halfway through the rear just comes around as if by magic.
RichQY 11-03-2003, 05:35 PM Originally posted by Scuba Steve
Yes, drifting is fun :D (http://ps.usa.net/~dgiadone/vids/stidrift.mpg) holy!!:huh: :huh:
Zornorph 11-03-2003, 06:26 PM you bet! I did the first one turning out of a dunkin donut quite by mistake, but what a rush! Eventrually, the front wheels grabbed and smoothly pulled the car straight. Gotta look where you want to go is the old saying.
awddrifter 11-03-2003, 09:19 PM Originally posted by Scuba Steve
Yes, drifting is fun :D (http://ps.usa.net/~dgiadone/vids/stidrift.mpg)
:eek:
That you doing that?
And yes, I do drift (points to SN) :D
dugrant153 11-04-2003, 03:32 AM WHoa... are all you guys the turbo Imprezas?
or do we have NA Imprezas doing this stuff too?
orndog 11-04-2003, 08:51 AM Did it just this morning... 90 degree left hander, heel and toe to second, big romp on the gas...
sideways
here comes a cop...
:lol:
oh well, I just got "the look"!
DirtDevil 11-04-2003, 02:55 PM N/A 2.5 Drifter Here.
Ahzlon 11-06-2003, 11:33 PM i do it quite often to and from work. here here for the back dirt roads of Vermont :D... i get a lil scared of doing it though.. i get a slight drifting in the car and counter steer... heh.. dont' wanna go into them pines ya know ... came around it one time with a school bus on my side.. i said a few choice words floored it to the other side of the road ... and kinda slid the other way.. missed.. WOOT.. nearly wet my self.. and all of this under 40 mph... i didnt' report the bus.. and i never heard anything either..... really wanna find a nice open field.. flat smooth and pracitce doing that.. but that is wishful thinking
'00 N/A 2.5RS Coupe
Kostamojen 11-07-2003, 12:43 AM Do you mean a powerslide or a drift?
Ahzlon 11-07-2003, 12:52 AM i might be doing more of a "powerslide" then a drift...
No Go 11-07-2003, 07:36 AM I'm not 'drifting.' This is in second gear and you power thru the corner exactly like the rally cars do it on dirt or pavement.
I don't have the guts to try a scandinavian flick or what you call it, just come into the corner (90 degree street type corner) near max speed (30 mph?) and 1/3 of the way thru floor it...boost comes on and the car pivots to the inside and ends up in a nice four wheel power slide or drift I suppose, but I don't hold it, just straighten it out for the next street.
On dry pavement is is very sticky and happens quick, I have found. Probably not good for the tires!
:)
White Knight 11-07-2003, 08:47 AM Yeah I got it to happen the other night :D
DirtDevil 11-07-2003, 09:06 AM Nope, a drift. come up in third, crank left the rapid right-Ebrake sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid down shiftto lower gear with clutch still engadged while in slide, blip the throttle and then dis-engadge clutch. Only powerslide while racing. don't need to keep speed up when just having fun drifting.:lol:
Hawk296 11-07-2003, 10:55 PM DO it easily in the wet with my 95L N/A 2.5l. Have done it in the dry but really need more power. In the WRX you can do it pretty much when you want wet or dry.
Saladin 11-08-2003, 11:33 PM i just did it in an abandoned superslick parkinglot on the way home, its fun.
squirrel-bait 11-12-2003, 02:49 PM Made a great display this past summer at a four-way stop.
Roads ahead and to the right are dirt, and had been freshly oiled to keep the dust down, so the paved intersection was very greeeeeaaasy. I pull up to make a left turn to continue on the pavement, and a guy with a nice shiny Buick Grand National comes up from the right lookin' all smug. I figured I'd give him a blast of the pipes for fun.
After easing away from the stop, I jump on the accelerator, and all four tires start slinging oil (no turbo lag here, folks) as I begin my turn. Just a little left is needed, then quick opposite lock to swing gracefully through the intersection. As she begins to straighten out, I grab second and light the tires up again as I blast away down the straight. Wooooweee!! Let's see your Grand Nat handle oil-slicked roads like that, Bub.
sqrl b8
That Guy 11-14-2003, 11:42 PM Did a Scandinavian Flick once (just a little one) in front of a "Student Driver" car. Made lots of noise, very dramatic. :D I'm such a dumbass.
Flicks are easy to learn, but hard to control.
RUBEN 12-04-2003, 09:33 AM Ive done slides right into bushes.:D
arconnell 12-09-2003, 10:18 PM racing an RSX took a turn at 110, was sharper than i thought, the RSX slowed and i slid around the turn ( the turn wasn't 90 degrees but enough to scare me)
almost hit a truck and had to slam on my breaks and almost hit a wall
word of the wise, don't do, haha :lol:
joubtt 12-10-2003, 02:29 AM Yep,
On a ~90 degree turn by accident(powerslide). Torque monster jr.
JewPac42 12-10-2003, 12:40 PM I can only do it off the road or when it is wet or snowy out. I dont have enough power to do it in the dry.
Tourian 12-10-2003, 02:16 PM When I first got my RS, I did it all the time, wet, dry, whatever/whenever I felt like it... The poor RE92's lasted all of 5 months or so.
Then I put on Pirelli P7000 SuperSports, and I could only do it when it was wet, or on very slick pavement. These have probably been the best all around tires I've driven on, made a 300 mile drive in 6 to 8 inches of snow with no problem whatsoever, even getting up near 60mph in some stretches (when there wasn't much traffic around).
Now I've got Pirelli PZero Neros, and even on slick pavement in the wet I struggle to break a corner free (Although in the snow, it's a VERY scary ride.. I managed to spin my car at less than 5mph at a stop sign the first time I drove on them in the snow. After that though, drifting in the snow became so easy it was stupid.
Strangely enough, one of the things that impressed the girl I was dating at the time (And eventually married), was that I could explain a Scandanavian flick, and then demonstrate it on the snowy mountain roads around here.
mbiker97 12-12-2003, 02:50 PM Originally posted by Scuba Steve
Yes, drifting is fun :D (http://ps.usa.net/~dgiadone/vids/stidrift.mpg)
That was bad arse. It's too bad the light was so low, but very kewl none the less.
SubaruImpreza_power 01-07-2004, 08:58 PM Originally posted by mbiker97
That was bad arse. It's too bad the light was so low, but very kewl none the less.
I Agree 100%!
IllNastyImpreza 01-08-2004, 02:08 PM so what exactly IS a scandinavian flick ???
mbiker97 01-08-2004, 02:43 PM Originally posted by IllNastyImpreza
so what exactly IS a scandinavian flick ???
Search on google. It's a method of turning where you counter steer quickly in the wrong direction to slightly unweight the outside wheel and then snap the steering back to the correct direction causing the back end to slide out. IIRC
edit: I just googled scandanavian flick and this thread was the 6th result. Haha.
iBlueVirus 01-08-2004, 06:07 PM yes, at rallyx...
That Guy 01-08-2004, 06:34 PM Originally posted by IllNastyImpreza
so what exactly IS a scandinavian flick ???
It's sometimes called a pendulum flick. It's a style of turning used in rallying. It can be performed wet or dry, on dirt or tarmac. The simplest way to describe it's execution is that the car is steered sharply back and forth across the road prior to a turn, thus unsettling it's weight and grip on the road, and getting the rear end to swing to and fro much like a pendulum. At the moment of entering the turn, the vehicle's weight is released from the "pendulum" and the car is "flung" around the corner, ususally sideways first. It's a delicate balance of grip, steering, and throttle modulation. If you ever watch WRC events aerial shots, you can watch the drivers do them at speed. They'll enter a turn sideways and exit it perfectly straight.
It's easier to start a flick than you might think. But controlling the car can be difficult because it can get away from you very quickly since the tires are barely gripping the road.
SubaruImpreza_power 01-08-2004, 09:08 PM Yeah I see this alot in like some Japanese Drift contests
But it's real easy to do it... Say you want to Drift to the left.. So do like err 30mph or so.. Quicky turn the car to the Right then Quicky to the left Very easy to do in the rain and VERY easy to lose control of the car.
NeedAWD 01-13-2004, 09:07 AM Originally posted by Scuba Steve
Yes, drifting is fun :D (http://ps.usa.net/~dgiadone/vids/stidrift.mpg)
:bowdown::huh:
Rosso_Corsa 01-29-2004, 12:05 AM Yeah, Scuba's vid FLOORED me. I bowdown, also.
I used to get the car sideways all the time in the rain, until I lost it pretty badly during the summer. I'm much less inclined to drive that hard anymore.
frostyTSM 02-05-2004, 01:17 AM I'm in Chicago and these last two weeks it's been snowing a lot, so I've been going to an empty parking lot and practicing sliding around and getting used to my new car. I hadn't owned a AWD / FWD car before (or a car with ABS), so I needed to learn how to drive it properly.
I don't have much knowledge about using the e-brake, especially with an AWD system. Obviously, you need to put the clutch out before you can pull the ebrake. But even doing that, will it screw with the front tires (assuming I'm right in thinking the rear wheels are the wheels braking).
Spoolin16PSI 02-05-2004, 01:28 AM dont pull the e-brake!!!!! It is one of the easiest ways to destroy a differential:furious:
Spoolin16PSI 02-05-2004, 01:29 AM with enough practice, you can easily use the car's power to drift/powerslide without the e-brake.
frostyTSM 02-05-2004, 01:34 AM That's how I do it, isn't power-oversteer beautiful. Since my speeds were limited by the size of the parking lot I was in (and the occasional parked car), all I had to do was throw it in first and the back would swing around nicely. The front wouldn't go very far and would mostly be churning up snow. Uusally once a session of this I would have to get out and kick the snow that had accumulated in the front wheel wells to the rear of the tires.
I had heard that the e-brake would screw up an AWD drive train. I thought it was the differential but I couldn't remember exactly where.
I just wait for it to snow ;).
IMUPOWA! 02-07-2004, 10:04 PM Well, supposedly drifting is supposed to be near impossible in a AWD vehicle, I think its front wheal drive that is the best to have for drifting. But AWD vehicles can powerslide like hell! lol - Imprezas, Skylines, Lancers, ect all are really good for power sliding which is a bit simpler to perfom than a drift but can be more difficult to control. I have a 96 Impreza Brighton (slowest car in the Subaru Nation ) and when I was first learning to powerslide I did a complete 180 (once), but now I can slide from one turn to the next in no time at all with no trouble. Its Fun! Very Fun! :D
awddrifter 02-08-2004, 03:09 PM Originally posted by IMUPOWA!
Well, supposedly drifting is supposed to be near impossible in a AWD vehicle, I think its front wheal drive that is the best to have for drifting. But AWD vehicles can powerslide like hell! lol - Imprezas, Skylines, Lancers, ect all are really good for power sliding which is a bit simpler to perfom than a drift but can be more difficult to control. I have a 96 Impreza Brighton (slowest car in the Subaru Nation ) and when I was first learning to powerslide I did a complete 180 (once), but now I can slide from one turn to the next in no time at all with no trouble. Its Fun! Very Fun! :D
you mean RWD right? FWD cars can only ass-drag...
IMUPOWA! 02-09-2004, 10:25 AM yeah, you might be right... I wasn't too sure :)
frostyTSM 02-09-2004, 06:43 PM I say RWD too.
But that's not what the post is about. I never heard of the Brighton. What kind of car (and what kind of power) does it have?
IMUPOWA! 02-09-2004, 10:30 PM The Brighton is the econo line of the Subaru Impreza. It looks like an L class, but has less power. Its basically the equvalent to a Honda Civic. :furious: Its only saving grace is that you can swap the engine with a 2.2 or 2.5, I pursonally want the 2.5, but Ima have to wait a couple of months for that. :rolleyes:
SgWRX 02-09-2004, 11:10 PM dude you rule. i did a track tour there and didn't even come close to a 4wdrift, too chicken. do you go there for track time with a club or during one of their track tour events?
Originally posted by WRX 2002
I can do it in 5th gear at Road America through the kink at over 100mph. techically it might be clasified as a 4 wheel drift...but still fun.
Except once when I left the track at the kink and ended up on the grass at 100mph following the concrete wall.
That is also a lot of fun...:eek:
N.
ColdChillin 02-13-2004, 12:37 PM Oh god. Drift-Mania here in Maine. Once were done working and theres a little snow on the ground, its Drift tiiime! We have about 3-5 diffrent cars bombing around the parking lot in a good 3-6 inches of fresh snow. its a blast. I like to think I have become pretty good at it, with correcting and all. Wouldnt want to do it on a road... yet. :devil:
Another terrain we use is a school. There are two schools with laps around them, and a road connecting two. Needless to say we fly down the stretch, drift a lap or two, take the road, scream to the other where we continue for who knows how long.
A friend was absolutely in love with driving my subaru. Sadly, its nothing special, to what most of you have. Its only FWD, but I love it, and its enjoyable as hell to drive.
cRayZee 02-14-2004, 04:13 PM was in the left turn lane, waiting for the left arrow to turn green and it had just finished raining so the road was all wet. I told my friend in the passenger seat "Check this out..I'm gonna start this left turn sideways.
Rev the motor a bit to get a good launch. As I launch the car, 4 wheels spin, car moves forward a bit, turn the wheel to the left and the car rotates to the direction I wanted to go, I straighten the steering and it shoots forward :D
That was fun :devil:
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