If I can get enough intrests here, there will be a Prodrive replica lip. So please post here if you are interested. This would be done by Modified Toys so you know its good stuff.

Prodrive Replica Lip (Fiberglass or CF)

1.) Oo DaRk StAr oO
2.) Jarelee
3.) nelinor
4.) audioize
5.) P-Funk
6.) Tical83
7.) Thumper23
8.) Costanza
9.) heffergm
10.) aiRX
11.) sherifx
12.) music4robots
13.) Monkeyboy
14.) dank
15.) barosborough
16.) Si2Rex
17.) hitman912
18.) Blitzkrieg
19.) rex dorifto
20.) Kanos WRX

:(

I guess it would be a fiberglass lip?

I'd be interested, depending on a few things, namely:
1)price
2)fit

In other words, if I'm going to have to drill holes, make templates, etc., forget it.
But if it comes pre-drilled for the factory mounting holes, then I'm on board. I want something that's as easy to install as the OEM lip (what can I say, I'm lazy).

Originally posted by heffergm
I'd be interested, depending on a few things, namely:
1)price
2)fit

In other words, if I'm going to have to drill holes, make templates, etc., forget it.
But if it comes pre-drilled for the factory mounting holes, then I'm on board. I want something that's as easy to install as the OEM lip (what can I say, I'm lazy).

You aren't lazy. You are smart. My STI V1 Replica lip busted in two pieces yesterday. I am not saying it wasn't my fault, but it doesn't ease the fact that I am stuck with a bumper with holes drilled in it and scuff marks. Oh well, now I have an excuse to get it repainted and de-stone chipped.

depending on some answers, I'm in

Pre-drilled - Can be arranged I am sure

Fiberglass

Price, Modified Toys Replicated the Mines Spoiler and the quality is the same if not better than the original and the price is 160 bucks. Imagine this lip would be pretty close to the same price.

1) would they be willing to replicate a carbon fiber version?
2) if they are willing, how much would it cost?

doesn't prodrive have a us division? if they do i would worry about making a replica, could get m/t in some hot water!

There are thousand of replica parts floating around right now.

CF I am not sure about...

Cost, I would say a lot less than the originals ;)

i want one! for 160 right? im in

not 160 bucks... no price set just yet...

Also about replicating... the original is ABS and ours is fiberglass, so technically its all good.

Hey Matt, it's Matt from school. Those Mines replicas that you were telling me about last week, are they carbon fiber???

ohh i misread your above post.. my bad.. well when you get a price.. im prob in.. depending though..

Originally posted by audioize
ohh i misread your above post.. my bad.. well when you get a price.. im prob in.. depending though..

Scott you know I'll take care of you...

Originally posted by Si2Rex
Hey Matt, it's Matt from school. Those Mines replicas that you were telling me about last week, are they carbon fiber???

No they are Fiberglass, I should have mine on pretty soon. So I am sure you'll see it.

sounding very good so far

For those that have been following the Mines Replica GP, you'll see that people are very very happy with the results Modified Toys has provided. I can guarentee you, this won't be any different.

post some pics there are so many lips I forgett which is which.

http://www.vividracing.com/images/prodrive/prodrivefront.jpg

Its a gorgeous piece. Perfect for that drowsy look ;)

a couple shots of the lip on JoeJohnson's car. (hope he doesn't mind)

http://malice36.jonuts.com/wrx2.jpg
http://malice36.jonuts.com/wrx4.jpg
http://malice36.jonuts.com/wrx6.jpg


:banana:

I'm in..! Well obviously depending on price, but I'm sure you'll do better than the $450 for the origional.

P

I'm definately in, as long as I don't have to drill anything

Alright everyone updating the list.

Thanks for the support keep it coming.

count me in

I'd definitely be in!!

Count me in!

List Updated!

2 more to go!

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mi 2 mi 2

I haven't heard a price yet... but barring it being ridiculously expensive, I'm in.

I'm interested,

btw, man how're yah doing? long time no talk

sherif

Im doing good, been sooooo busy lately with work and school.

bump

i'm interested

Interested to hear how this goes.

sweeeet....hopefully this thing goes through. :banana:

Why can't we get PRODRIVE to make it?:confused: Anyway, I'm in if it's easy to install.

essogas - Prodrive like other big companies, i dont' think they would want to make a replica/knock-off of their own product, because then people wouldn't be buying their normally priced products. Dunno if that makes sense. :D

Oh I assumed this thread might have been referring to a "one off" of Prodrive's lips for a car show and it wasn't available in large quantities. How much is the REAL Prodrive one?

450 bucks unpainted.

I'd love a replica prodrive front lip, just as long as it fits well, mounts up to stock holes, and comes with everything needed to mount it. I would also would be very very interested in a CF one.

Not a problem. I will call Richard on Monday and let him know things are moving a long incredibly.

I'm in but depending on how things turn out. . .
Thanks for organizing this

No problem guys!

Bumping up...

People who are in Update the list as you go please to make it easier on my lazy butt.

count me in as well...

dank is in for it...

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I'm in if it's easy to install and isn't way too expensive.

As long as the cost is good then I'm in. It looks so fresh and so clean clean....

Good Luck W/ Finals Matt.

G/L with you too Finals are rough :(

i'd like one too please...:banana:

bump!

^

Put me on the list

BlitZ

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Keep them comin guys, we all know you want subtle beauty!

How's everybody doing?
Thanks Matt for putting this together.. The ProDrive lip is absolutely gorgeous!!!! :D :D

yey! teh leader!

I will just put my 2 cents in again, even though I would take a non cf prodrive replica as long as it fit in the stock holes and came with all the mounting hardware. I would really really love a CF prodrive replica :)

cf replica front and cf replica mines spoiler would be key!:o

But for those of us who don't want CF....a normal one would be great :D

bump for more people

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i am interested as well...please add me

Wow I need to comprise a new list :D

Yes it sounds like you might... Just be sure to add me to it... :)

Prodrive Replica Lip (Fiberglass or CF)

1.) Oo DaRk StAr oO
2.) Jarelee
3.) nelinor
4.) audioize
5.) P-Funk
6.) Tical83
7.) Thumper23
8.) Costanza
9.) heffergm
10.) aiRX
11.) sherifx
12.) music4robots
13.) Monkeyboy
14.) dank
15.) barosborough
16.) Si2Rex
17.) hitman912
18.) Blitzkrieg
19.) rex dorifto
20.) Kanos WRX

Wow 20 people so far!!!

Can we keep this coming!!!

Whats the time frame for when these will be available. I'd be interested if the price/quality ratio was right.

ilara - i think these should be in production after the Mine's spoiler GP is done, which is soon. But Matt or Modified Toys will know exact dates

Ill let Richard respond to that one.

I've been looking for a prodrive replica forever. I'm way in.

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
Prodrive Replica Lip (Fiberglass or CF)


I prefer cf, thx bro

Let me know about a Fiberglass copy, I'm local to San Jose so that'd be good.

Is there a special process used to paint fiberglass spoilers/lips? Whenever I get fiberglass painted (i.e. replica oem lip) it always ends up getting chipped/pitted due to road debris.

Sign me up for a carbon fiber one pending price... may go fiberglass if need be.

Originally posted by Costanza
Is there a special process used to paint fiberglass spoilers/lips? Whenever I get fiberglass painted (i.e. replica oem lip) it always ends up getting chipped/pitted due to road debris.

Make sure you get a couple of clearcoats over it.

Carbon fiber ! would be perfect. for my desires.


Yes. :evil laugh:


BlitZ

:D

bump~

Whats the price? If it is reasonable I'm in.

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WHen is this gonna happen?

as soon as the Mines spoiler GP has completed.

Any ideas of prices? Christmas time is coming up :D:banana:

Make that 21. I will elbow the rest of you out to pay for and get mine first!:banana:

Any news?

P

Still waiting guys...

Pending price, I am definately interested in a carbon fiber version of the lip.

is this like the spoiler that the car shown had?

http://cc-b.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=E721SE000&Category_Code=SI04

i know its for 02+ models but it looks to be like the other one

please disregard if this was stupid

It is here: Click on me and scroll to the middle of the page to see a picture of what we are looking at buying... (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=450430)

Here's another: Linky (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=447340)

bump!

Count me in! I know I have a friend who isn't on here who is interested as well.

Quality has to be good however. I don't care how cheap it is, if it's not quality, i'm not buying it.

Oh yeah, something other than Cf for me. I'd be painting it.

Ditto... a Quality piece is key...

I would certainly be interested in one! It would definitely have to be quality though, heh. I'm in the same boat was SR-71WRX: I don't care how cheap it is, if it isn't a quality piece I'm not buying it.

Not sure if I would want CF or Fiberglass, though.

bump

But what I really want is a whole WRC replica front end!

I've heard some place called 'burn-up' does one, does anyone know more? what about their quality?

For burn up, see your other thread.

For the prodrive replica, I hate to rain on your parade but I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon. Modified Toys is already busy as hell the way it is, with the whole mines replica spoiler thing, assuming they pull through on that....

Add me to the list, i'm definitely interested.

Ed

I would also be intrested in a Carbon Fiber Version.

Chris

Darkstar-- what sort of time frame are we looking at here? I'm also interested in the Mine's replica, when will that be done?



This is gonna turn into another "intake elbow can be had" thread.

Yes what time frame? I want this now!!!! :D

We are still finishing up the Mines Replicas. Its been a tough month getting them all done but progress is being made.

This is going to be the next project on the list so just sit tight everyone.

how many names do you need?

is this thing still going on? I'm interested! :cool:

Apparently the Mines replica spoiler is still not finished. Once that is finished, they will start on the front lip.


I really hope they finish this soon.... but I wouldn't hold your breath on either product.

im looking for a lip right now and prodrive seems to be my choice. Count me in

I'm in as well, as long as its not as expensive as the original. Thanx

-Andrew

I'm in Pending on price!

bump i want this!

Bump, put me on the list for a fiberglass one assuming it fits stock holes, and FITS really damn well. Not looking to spend money on a POS part. If they do in fact get made and turn out nice, I won't be able to pick one up until the end of April.

Put me on the list for whatever is available first. But I would love a CF Prodive lip drilled with hardware.

sounds good to me will it fit a wagon??

Still finishing the Mines GP, so hang tight guys

i'm interested in the CF...

it sure is taking a while isnt it?

I hope our group buy doesnt take as long :( I want this lip!

I would like one as well.

I might be in depending on price

Any updates on the prodrive lip?
ILL take one

Is this going to offered painted? :confused:

Look up the Mines spoiler groupbuy thread (which is still going on) in the Groupbuy forum to get an idea of how long it will take for this to happen...

I'm very in

I have the real prodrive front lip available now for 299.00 . It come with the instruction and brackets.
Ferdie
714-689-2103

Nice hijack.:devil:

Originally posted by South Coast Subaru
I have the real prodrive front lip available now for 299.00 . It come with the instruction and brackets.
Ferdie
714-689-2103

comes in black unpainted?

Yeah it comes in like a primer its abs material unpainted.
Ferdie

Ferdie, I emailed you.

If this is still happening, I'm interested; especially in a CF piece (as long as it looks good). Depends on the price & fit too, but I've been waiting for a reasonably priced alternative to the Prodrive lip, looks like this might be it.

sorry for the hijack, was just told that a lot of people were interested in the lip and that the replica were delayed. So I was asked to post and help.
Ferdie

Im interested!
add me to the list if its not ridicously priced

im interested

I'm interested! So long as price is reasonable for what it is. Something to hold me until I get Kaminari lip :devil:

i'm not going to read this whole thread but i just want to add in a note of caution. if you read the mine's group buy thread you'll see that not everyone is absolutely thrilled with modified toys' ability to produce tangible product. half the people in the 2nd group buy still have not received it going on three months with all spoilers pre-paid. we were assured over and over that they would be shipped THIS week with nothing to show. in fact, i pulled out and i don't plan on ordering anything from them in the near or distant future.

hey look, i'm #17 on the waitlist :lol:

vaporware?

add me too please :D Is there a price estimate?

bump

Count me in

Where are we with this thing? price, availability?

Originally posted by wrxwag
sounds good to me will it fit a wagon??
I would like to know that too. 04 Wagon? And also - can they be painted white?

Count me in as well if the price is not too atrocious. Any updates on when this will be available?

Please add me to the list. fiberglass if fine, painted white even better.

add me.

and yes, any updates?

I'm starting to doubt this is going to happen before the summer :(

darkstar...i thought modified toys status as a vendor was suspended until everyone got their product ....and that has NOT happened yet.

Originally posted by Oo DaRk StAr oO
For those that have been following the Mines Replica GP, you'll see that people are very very happy with the results Modified Toys has provided. I can guarentee you, this won't be any different.

wish I had seen this earlier...people are not happy because they paid for a product that doesn't exist.

I feel taken advantage of because I fronted money as a free no interest loan for a company to do research and development on a product that didn't even exist yet....If I had been told that it would take five months I would have told them to shove it.

I went TO JAPAN AND BACK and could have easily bought a REAL mine's spoiler but I expected it back when I returned...and when I returned there was no spoiler.

just trying to warn people about "vaporware"

I'm pretty sure they haven't asked for any money (certainly not from me). I read the other thread and they said they would never run another buy before they had product in hand again, so maybe they learned their lesson.

Kinda a catch-22, if I were a business I'd do the same thing. People want to pay their money and bolt the part to their car the next day. On the other hand, what business wants to invest the time/money (aforementioned months) devloping a product which might not sell?

We're all too used to e-commerce and next-day-air shipping. Products, even replicas, are not going to jump from being an idea to being a quality product in a matter of days, or even weeks.

5 months might be a long(ish) time, but you know everyone would still be bitching if it had only taken 1, but the product was of lesser quality.

Originally posted by ForceFed4
I'm pretty sure they haven't asked for any money (certainly not from me). I read the other thread and they said they would never run another buy before they had product in hand again, so maybe they learned their lesson.

Kinda a catch-22, if I were a business I'd do the same thing. People want to pay their money and bolt the part to their car the next day. On the other hand, what business wants to invest the time/money (aforementioned months) devloping a product which might not sell?

We're all too used to e-commerce and next-day-air shipping. Products, even replicas, are not going to jump from being an idea to being a quality product in a matter of days, or even weeks.

5 months might be a long(ish) time, but you know everyone would still be bitching if it had only taken 1, but the product was of lesser quality.


although i understand, the fact of the matter is that they took down a number of people and didn't already have facilities to handle it.

its not that hard to make a copy of an already existing product.
they also have given many people the run around on the product.

that being said they ARE now ABLE to do the work with fiberglass so I don't forsee the same problems in the future that they have had in the past.

countme in.i would love one. thank you.

I would love to get in on this! CF if possible!

im in, dates on when?

ill take one some lady just wrecked my front if this is still on im in fo-sho :D

As soon as I see one of these made and a reasonable price, I would buy one that day with no qualms....

Show me something boys!! :banana:

whats the price on one of these?

Originally posted by heffergm
I'd be interested, depending on a few things, namely:
1)price
2)fit

In other words, if I'm going to have to drill holes, make templates, etc., forget it.
But if it comes pre-drilled for the factory mounting holes, then I'm on board. I want something that's as easy to install as the OEM lip (what can I say, I'm lazy).

i agree! and am interested; id be interested in cf, or possible prepainted fiberglass.

if it's pre-drilled, i'm in! :)

I am in pending cost and fitment...

is this still happening? any updates?

we are trying to fulfill the backorder on the mines spoilers.. we will not organize or sell this lip until we have them physically in stock!!!

Im in, but want a front lip relativley soon.

how did i miss this?
Are the pics of the prodrive piece, or the actual replica?

Originally posted by rex n effect
how did i miss this?
Are the pics of the prodrive piece, or the actual replica?

try reading the read again
"we will not organize or sell this lip until we have them physically in stock!!!"

modified toys we are literally throwing money at you guyz and making threats is no joke :D

Why don't you just get a real one? They are ABS and won't explode into a million bits the first time you hit anything...

Cheers

Simon

Originally posted by Simon Lines
Why don't you just get a real one? They are ABS and won't explode into a million bits the first time you hit anything...

Cheers

Simon

Why don't you guys price it at something less than the cost of hip replacement and I'll get two? :rolleyes:

Im hoping for a CF one :)

Originally posted by Javier
Why don't you guys price it at something less than the cost of hip replacement and I'll get two? :rolleyes:

Well said.

Ok, so when you've replaced the fibre one a few times (and painted it) you'll have paid for a proper one... :)

If I could make OEM quality parts, made in the UK, available in the US aftermarket any cheaper I would

Cheers

Simon

I'm sorry but even the OEM front lip is only $335 new and that includes an OEM paintjob. :confused: (http://www.subaruparts.com/catalog/?section=255)

Is prodrive getting a little squirmy about a replica of a product?

I don't forsee scraping being an issue here because quite frankly the lip is super thin and barely changes front end clearance anyway. I don't scrape my bumper on anything now and don't see that being an issue with htis piece....

Simon, with all due respect, please take your comments somewhere that people care to hear it. No one expects you to be in support of this product, but to come in another vendor's thread and start bad mouthing it is both rude and unprofessional.

To be honest I don't have a problem with any replica, I'm just asking if the cost saving is real or perceived, I could understand that may cause a little disquiet. I made no mention of any other vendor or quality, I simply asked "why"

You will also note the use of a smiley in my last post, it is my understanding these emoticons are used to indicate a tongue in cheek comment or at the very least that no offence is intended. Clearly something has been lost in the UK / USA translation of this understanding

If the part is a true replica of the P1 lip it will protrude around 60mm lower than the std 00MY front bumper, a quick check on Scooby net will reveal a considerable number of people unhappy about paint chipping and front end scraping with the P1 (car) when it was released.

Cheers

Simon

Originally posted by Javier
Is prodrive getting a little squirmy about a replica of a product?

I don't forsee scraping being an issue here because quite frankly the lip is super thin and barely changes front end clearance anyway. I don't scrape my bumper on anything now and don't see that being an issue with htis piece....

Simon, with all due respect, please take your comments somewhere that people care to hear it. No one expects you to be in support of this product, but to come in another vendor's thread and start bad mouthing it is both rude and unprofessional.

Absolutely.

I think your referring to our gm6/gc8 models and this lip is for the GDA Subaru's (01 - 02MY for you in the UK). The P1 lip is much lower then this prodrive lip.

Originally posted by Simon Lines
If the part is a true replica of the P1 lip it will protrude around 60mm lower than the std 00MY front bumper, a quick check on Scooby net will reveal a considerable number of people unhappy about paint chipping and front end scraping with the P1 (car) when it was released.

Cheers

Simon

I highly don't the prodrive lip decreases clearance by over 2 inches. You are obviously talking about a different lip than what is being discussed in this thread....

What is going on with this??

Originally posted by Simon Lines
Ok, so when you've replaced the fibre one a few times (and painted it) you'll have paid for a proper one... :)


In the composites industry, you pay for quality. I think Simon's just saying the compromise to genuine quality is the amount of money you're willing to spend.

A good part of the cost in putting out a a genuine product is producing the initial piece - something a replica doesn't need (obviously).

Personally, I'm not a fan of replica pieces, because I work in the field of composites, and in the situation where you make a production piece (where tooling costs can be up to thousands of dollars) to make money and somebody rips it off... it's like they're stealing money from your own pocket.

So that's another perspective to look at it from.

I agree that the investment in making a injection molded article such as a front lip is in the initial tool design / fabrication. Once that is invested the actual material cost is pittance, ABS resin costs < $ 1/lb.

Question is have you seen any vendor decrease their prices after recouping some of their initial costs? Instead they continue to demand high profits because they have a captive market amongst the auto tuner enthusiasts.

Given these circumstances, in my opinion it makes sense to go with a replica.

This vendor is having a prodrive sale for those of us that can't wait for a replica, here are real ones for $225 shipped.

http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55110

I just want to say up front that I'm not trying to start an argument or piss anybody off. I just want to offer a little insight and personal opinion on the subject at hand.

Originally posted by rane
I agree that the investment in making a injection molded article such as a front lip is in the initial tool design / fabrication. Once that is invested the actual material cost is pittance, ABS resin costs < $ 1/lb.


Resin costs are not less than $1/lb. :) In fact, it's significantly more. Expect your low grades of polyester-based resins to run upwards of $70/lb. And along with that goes with supplies to mix, hardener, gloves, wax, etc.

Originally posted by rane
Question is have you seen any vendor decrease their prices after recouping some of their initial costs? Instead they continue to demand high profits because they have a captive market amongst the auto tuner enthusiasts.

The manufacturer does not have to account for material and production costs alone - there's monthly rent, expenses and of course, the labour to lay up the part you bought. :)

Originally posted by rane
Given these circumstances, in my opinion it makes sense to go with a replica.

You might be forgetting that you're paying for an original design. That includes the creativity and r&d, if any, involved in making the original piece.

well put...

and to add my $.02... it has also been 4 + Months since the initial post and still nothing but "vaporware"... hmmmm...

Originally posted by MonkeyBoy
well put...

and to add my $.02... it has also been 4 + Months since the initial post and still nothing but "vaporware"... hmmmm...

Didn't this thread start in dress up and style? How did it get moved? It is obvious they are not taking orders.

i'm in!!

Is it the front lip spoiler for the GC8 body or other type? Let me know, also if u have the pic, that's great. please send pic to vicdeng@yahoo.com

I believe it is the lip for the 02-03 body type

Hey guys. I just found this thread again, i will talk with DarkStar and see if this is still in the works. I'll let you guys know whats up.

It would be better to just buy the real lip.
GS

Originally posted by gswrx
It would be better to just buy the real lip.
GS

the real lip isnt worth $300 (unpainted) to some of us

mod. toys. has lost their vendor status with nasioc.com

IBVaporWare

Originally posted by Milin
mod. toys. has lost their vendor status with nasioc.com

thats too bad :( maybe someone else wants to pick this up? Look at all the interest it generated!

Originally posted by CyC
thats too bad :( maybe someone else wants to pick this up? Look at all the interest it generated!

pretty sure making replicas of parts which are produced in america is illegal since prodrive owns a copyright on the design of this particular front lip.

if the replica lip is somehow slightly different from the product produced by prodrive, which holds an american copyright on that design.

that being said, I recieved a mine's trunklid replica spoiler from modified toys. the quality was very good, but I paid for it a year ago and never recieved it until about 2 days ago.
And im still not sure that everyone who ordered one has recieved theirs.

modified makes a good product, their people are very polite and nice, but the actual serving of the customer left something to be desired.
hopefully this improves in the future?

I'm in if this lip will bolt up to an 04 sti? Pic?

anyone know if this is still going on? I see that this was started a long time ago and I would be interested in a CF version of this if anyone knows where I could get one.

Thanks

Come on people... Get a clue... This ain't going to happen... :)

:(

*unsubscribe*

sup? true, for the ($300-$399) price of the "brand name" Prodrive lip, seems you could cast it in carbon fibor for even less. I wish I didn't `love' this lip.

+++ Milin - If it's illegal to replicate this out of copyright infringement or patent or intellectual property or whatever the laws may be, all the more reason for me to pay even *less* for this piece, replica or not. :lol:

Best lip, period. Too bad it's $300. :(

is there one for an 04

any word?

No and there probably won't be cause modified isn't a vendor anymore. Read thier gb for the mines spoiler and you wouldn't want to get in on this if it was still going on.

die thread...die...or get locked!! this is almost as bad as the JDM screen housing.

count me in!

Originally posted by poogiboy
count me in!

you are an idiot.

Bwaaaa:lol:

lmao.... :)

Originally posted by Milin
you are an idiot.

thats not what your mom said last night....

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364179

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364179