JC
03-05-2001, 01:03 PM
If I had the money, I'd buy an EVO over a WRX. It is by no means a "Mitsu POS."
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View Full Version : HOLY CRAP! The WRX is not coing here alone!!!! JC 03-05-2001, 01:03 PM If I had the money, I'd buy an EVO over a WRX. It is by no means a "Mitsu POS." RacerinLSL 03-05-2001, 01:09 PM Sorry, maybe I'm just bitter, but I don't know many people that will attest to Mitsubishi's "reliability" and I just couldn't spend that much $ on one. I'd get an E36 M3 or an S4 before that ugly POS!!lol ejicon 03-05-2001, 01:24 PM Just get a SUBIE.. RacerinLSL 03-05-2001, 01:33 PM Maybe I'm on crack brucie...but there is NO WAY we are gonna get an EVO for that price. My 96 DSM GSX was $25,000. You're gonna try and tell me a car with all the extras and advancement of the EVO will be sold by the same manufacturer for the same price!! Maybe I get my crack from you.http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/cool.gif BMW Man in 2.5RS 03-05-2001, 01:35 PM ok lets get this straight you can pick up a nice used e36 M3 for close to 25,000. Beleive me i know im an m3 fanatic but if you want a real m3 you would have to go with the e30. If the lancer evo could keep up with the m3 in every catagory then why dont they run it in the le mans with the m3's. An m3 would rape a lancer evo top end. The AWD is way restictive when it comes to top end. but you cant really compare these two cars as one was built for the dirt and one for the road. I would definitly get the M3 Imprezer 03-05-2001, 01:35 PM In europe, the EVO are about 3-5% less expensive that the STi versions of the WRX. EVO will be much more expensive than the regular WRX if it gets here. I would say 32k. But, who cares. To each his own. ba_feitl 03-05-2001, 01:38 PM If Mitsu were really smart they'd put together a MightyMax EVO VIII... that one cool a$$ mightymax ! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gif HydeX 03-05-2001, 01:38 PM Sorry guys I'm with JC on this one. If I had enough money I'd buy the EVO also. Evo's kick ass myko011 03-05-2001, 01:40 PM Yep the Evo would be pretty pimp RacerinLSL 03-05-2001, 01:44 PM If I had the money, I'd buy a Jaguar XJ220. What is your point. Imprezer - Exactly my point. Xeno 03-05-2001, 01:45 PM EVO VII will be about 35K.. and its a direct competitor for the STi.. which when it hits shores will be about 35K ish too.. or more.. we may see a 'tuned' lancer here for 24K ish.. but i think you will find it it NA and FWD.. why do i say this ?.. becasue everywhere the EVO has been sold its been about as much as a STi.. an EVO will out right kill a stock WRX.. no questions asked.. they arent in the same category.. but.. the STi and EVO are common foes.. in Australia the EVO VI is about an $80K car.. and the STi is about $65K.. as i have shown before the price you guys have here for the WRX is about what an Australian WRX would be in USD.. so the STi will be about 35 ish K.. now.. the EVO in Aust is a VERY limited model.. infact you have to get it specially imported and complied.. but.. if it was sold there it would be about the same as the STi.. no cheaper.. so the EVO here will be a 35K + car.. given that price.. i'll be ready to buy one in about 2 years.. after my WRX has run its course.. and i decide to upgrade.. the main reason i am not going to mod the hell out of my WRX is becasue i will be buying an EVO or STi in about 2 years.. which ever is available at the time.. the EVO if they both are.. but mark my words.. you wont see a full spec EVO VII for less than about 35K.. if you do.. it will be detuned.. sure.. they might offer a 230-250 Hp version.. but even that will be about 25K +.. and i severely doubt it.. just becasue they can.. doesnt mean they will... a lot depends on the sales of the WRX.. if lots of people 'hold out' for the STi or EVO.. and the WRX doesnt sell well.. then they might just decide that they wont bring the EVO and STi in in full production.. just a limited run.. if thats the case. you can be DAMN sure you will be paying 35K+.. possibly around 40K.. its just the nature of the game.. they sell enough EVOs to satisfy the homoglobation (or what ever) for the Rally EVO.. they dont need to sell anymore.. its not their flagship car.. why bust their balls trying to break into the 'cubic inches rool' market of north america? (just my opinion too fellahs.. flame.. but dont get personal http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif) RacerinLSL 03-05-2001, 01:50 PM Racer: Zeno you can be my wingman anytime. Zeno: Bull$hit Racer, you can be mine. bling 03-05-2001, 01:58 PM As far as I know, the Japanese MSRP for EVO VII GSR is a little under 3M Yen, which is around $28K USD and the RS is sold for around $24K USD. It’s substantially lower priced than the WRX STI version in Japan already. The most important thing is the Lancer is designed with ALL feature in compliance with the DOT rules already (5 mph bumper, steel bar in the doors, etc….) So the possibility of it showing up in US soil is very likely. Will it be detuned? Yes, I think so. According to Mitsubishi press release, they will produce 10,000 unit of EVO VII. In my humble opinion, the EVO IS the flagship car at this moment considering the image it gives Mitsubishi. Imprezer 03-05-2001, 02:01 PM ...and my Dad would beat up all your guy's Dads. RacerinLSL 03-05-2001, 02:05 PM Hey Bling - Do you have a link or something to that press release?? Xeno 03-05-2001, 02:11 PM hehe.. Imprezer : Yo Momma !! dont take me wrong fellahs.. i would LOVE to get an EVO here.. and for under 30K.. i just dont see it happening.. 10,000 units.. i am assuming (rightly or wrongly) that that is for total.. not just US production.. i'd say we could see what.. 2-3000 of those?.. gonna be a rare car at that amount.. and so the price will be steep.. anything limited is expensive.. cvalle-sd 03-05-2001, 02:16 PM The Lancer is ugly. Mitsubishi is not in good shape. I am dubious of their build quality, service capacity viv-a-vis a "special car" like the Lancer Evo VII, and commitment to the whole idea - these, the people who pulled the 3000gt - a cool techno-cruiser AND pulled the Eclipse - the sportier coupe, and gave us the FWD Eclipse porker. They ARE moving in the opposite direction. RS-LOVER 03-05-2001, 02:20 PM I would buy a EVO too, if it was the same as the one over seas.But come on guys, the time it actually gets here it will just BE a Mirage on crack!http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif STi Boy 03-05-2001, 02:23 PM all i gotta say is...with 280 HP twin turbo/intercooler with 4WD and probably the most agressive styling...i gotta say a Lancer is perhaps the best in everything. every cent u spend on that car is worth it... Templar 03-05-2001, 02:33 PM Pardon my language but JEEZUS guys. There used to be a ton of guys on this board that did nothing but bitch that the RS was a peice of crap and all they wanted was the WRX. Now, guess what we have the WRX. Now all the same type of people are moaning that they want an EVO. Once we get an EVO, they will moan that they want something else. Good lord, move to Europe and leave alone those of us that are happy with what we have. I will be quite content with my little RS in which I have soundly thrashed several very high end euro sports cars on the mountain roads that I live near. Imprezer 03-05-2001, 02:34 PM Damn kids! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/wink.gif J Colman 03-05-2001, 02:44 PM I was always partial to " Yo momma's so fat her belt size is equator" hehehe, but I guess this isn't the forum for these types of comments, sorry. Justin <IMG SRC="http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net3/smileJap.gif" border=0> bling 03-05-2001, 03:04 PM I am not sure about most others, but for me, I like the EVO and the WRX. However, I can’t afford nither of them and they were NOT available here in US. Will this simple fact change the love I have for these marvelous machines? No. I just hope I can own them both, but I am happy if I can have either one honestly. For those of you interested in more info about the EVO VII pricing, here is the link: http://auto.ascii24.com/auto24/e/2001/0126/e01npr_st0126_01.html gumball 03-05-2001, 03:21 PM What I've read is that the EVO VII is built on a larger platform, w/ longer wheelbase than the Lancer series. I don't think there's a model betw. the Gallant & Lancer in the states. Anyhow, it'll a wheelbase in the 103" range, w/ more interior room, I think, but weigh in very close to the WRX. MarbleTurtle 03-05-2001, 03:30 PM yikes! More power, better brakes, 17" wheels for $25k... hmmmm... M8 03-05-2001, 03:44 PM it's funny how irrational some of us gets when the very idea of buying any other car comes up. we are not members of a cult (i hope http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/wink.gif ) we all bought the Impreza for our own reasons. likewise we all have our own ideas about what an "ideal" or "dream" car would be... so, in the spirit of tolerance; here is mine: <IMG SRC="http://www.auto123.com/imgs/automobiles/aston_martin/vanquish/2002/03.jpg" border=0> (by the way it'll crush your measly NA imprezas!! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/rolleyes.gif ) [This message has been edited by M8 (edited March 05, 2001).] Impreza22B 03-05-2001, 03:47 PM Wow! Lancer VII coming here? I'm not getting the WRX then. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif I will keep the RS though. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif M8 03-05-2001, 03:49 PM That, Brucelee, is an Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (you get points for knowing it was an Aston http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif ) tulit 03-05-2001, 04:38 PM Why are we arguing about this? A stock EVO VII would waste any stock WRX, INCLUDING the STi N/A 03-05-2001, 04:45 PM Bling you seem to be the only one who checked on pricing before opening his mouth. You can get a new Evo7 here for $28K out the door. That is for a fully loaded GSR model and not a RS model. The RS is comparable in weight to the old WRX Type-RA. Yes Mitsu had trouble before with their cars but now Diamler is incharge of things and openly said that by building a car for a world market its possible to offer the exact same car in every market for the same price. That means very very little detuning if at all and no marking up pricing. By using an assembly line to build just one model or car with only a couple trim choices it brings down the entire cost of operations which means you can offer a lower price and still profit from the sale. Then again they also called Chrysler a management bloated company that narrowly focused too much attention on the US market. The Evo is thousand cheaper then what the new STI model is rumored to cost. Besides if you don't like the bumper there are already bumper kits for them. I haven't seen a light kit for the new WRX yet. Don't get started on saying that we all asked for the WRX and now want something else. I always stated that I either wanted the Evolution or the Legacy RSK B4. Besides even if they only send a Lancer GSR with the AWD and the 1.8L turbo motor its not a tough swap to drop a 4G63 motor and tranny in since unlike the older Eclipse and Galant the new Lancer GSR has the motor facing the same direction as the 1998 and newer Evolutions. Oh and the only similarities between the 4G63 in the Eclipse and the Evo is the block. Everything else is slightly different up until recently and with the new Evo6 there were major changes to the specs of alot of parts. Another thing is I know somebody will toss around phrases like crankwalk, or transfercase recall. There still has been no reports (even from tuning shops) of crankwalk outside of the US and recalls on US models cars especially the Eclipse have no relevance when your talking about JDM model cars. MarbleTurtle 03-05-2001, 04:47 PM ... as long as money is no object... McLauren GT... 240mph, AWD, multi-turbo'd BMW V12 engine... goodgigglywiggly http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif MarbleTurtle 03-05-2001, 04:58 PM ... oh I almost forgot. Yo mamma so fat, she strikes oil every time she walks around in high heels. Cracks me up every time. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif Prog 03-05-2001, 05:19 PM uh i couldve sworn that N/A posted on this topic saying that the 2.5RS is to the WRX what the mirage is to the EVO and that i replied to him http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/confused.gif GDA 03-05-2001, 05:37 PM The news of the Lancer coming here, if its true, and if we are gettin the new doesnt really make any difference to me. I would pick Subaru over mitsubishi anyday, i dont like mitsus much, i hope the tranny isnt similar to the cluncky GSX, or now GT. EJ20WRX OH BTW, while viewing some Option videos with Deliciospeed, the lancer EVO VII was harder for me to swallow than the new WRX, looks kind of like civic in the rear, and gauge cluster is nasty. [This message has been edited by EJ20WRX (edited March 05, 2001).] ScoobyRoo 03-05-2001, 05:55 PM The mitsubishi lancer evolution is the flagship car for mitsubishi, because it is the only car that mitsubishi makes thats worth a damn. My g/f has a gs-t 98 eclipse, what a POS. Here's a small list of stuff done under warranty that would have cost her thousands if it wasn't. They even tried to make her pay for half of the stuff because it was always in the shop. I had to step in and threaten them with legal action if they didn't leave her alone. Ready: New transmission 9,000 miles. New Turbo compressor fan at 12,000 miles New rear driveline at 12,500 miles. new computer at 21,000 miles. New #3 and #4 pushrods due to them being broken. Car completely stock. 28,000 miles and finally before I finally got her to sell the damn thing a new ignition system from a short circuit right after the dealership supposedly changed the plugs. I will tell you I am no expert on cars nor do I want to be. But this was rediculious unfortunately the lemon law didn't apply due to the fact that it has to supposedly be one thing that keeps going wrong at least that was the way it was told to me by a lawyer. The ignition system was at 38,000 miles. She finally traded it in for a 00 Jeep Wrangler. But over all after dealing with her car since she got it new in August of 98, I was with her when she picked it up. I will never give in and purchase a mitsubishi anything no matter how bad A$$ it may be. Whew! I am done. ScoobyRoo 03-05-2001, 06:03 PM Two corrections to last post, 1) had a eclipse gs-t 2) It wasn't a rear drive line it had something to do with the power from the transmission to the front drive line. RS-LOVER 03-05-2001, 06:06 PM My Dad can beat up your Dad!!!! Sorry i had to.http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif Texas25RS 03-06-2001, 12:05 AM Automobile: "In late 2002, the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII arrives to battle the Subaru Impreza WRX" I don't know if this is old news, but this could mean anothe rbrand change for me.... that will be about the time I am in for a new car!... SWEET! Frank 03-06-2001, 12:08 AM i'm pretty sure this has been argued before. The Lancer we get will most likely be the European 1.X liter POS. Granted maybe there will be some sort of Ralliart Edition for like 30k that will resemble the Rally car. Just speculation. ~Frank Bankheist 03-06-2001, 12:11 AM regular Lancer... to replace the Mirage... we americans have no such luck http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/frown.gif Though the infinity R35 is coming soon http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif [This message has been edited by Bankheist (edited March 05, 2001).] Tkacik 03-06-2001, 12:14 AM nevermind read the top two postshttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif [This message has been edited by STiTkacik (edited March 05, 2001).] RacerinLSL 03-06-2001, 12:20 AM This has been discussed fifty thousand times but, IF the EVO comes over, it WILL be a 30k+ car. Probably 35k. It is meant to compete with the STi overseas and it is still a Mitsu POS. The EVO motor is the same motor that was in gen 1&2 eclipses. $35k for an eclipse? NAWWWWWW THANK YOU Chad Kostamojen 03-06-2001, 01:01 AM I cant afford a WRX let alone a Evo http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif $20 says we are getting a FWD Lancer with Turbo instead of the actual 280hp Evo Impreza22B 03-06-2001, 06:03 AM But...but...the lancer evo still looks a lot better than the RS or new age WRX. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif It's true! hehe. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif RacerinLSL 03-06-2001, 06:46 AM I don't care who says whatever about the supposed price of the EVO, if it is the EVO they have on the other side of the pond, IT IS NOT GONNA BE A sub $30k car. All of that technology and performance can not be sold on these shores at a profit for less than that. A second gen. Eclipse could run up to $26k not counting the Spyder. So fumble with your exchange rates and your unreliable sources, but the fact is, the car will cost more than $30k. Chad MarbleTurtle 03-06-2001, 08:05 AM ... nope. I'm betting it will be upper $20's... and it looks like what the WRX was supposed to be... 280hp, Brembo brakes, 17" wheels, Recaro seats, big butt air foil... A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... but that's five birds in the bush... I think I might be waiting on that WRX until more info comes out. bling 03-06-2001, 08:10 AM I guess if you considered Mitsubishi official web site is unreliable source, then I can’t find one which is more reliable. On the other hand, according to your theory, the WRX should be well over what it should be now in order to make profit. As you ASSUMED, the EVO HAS to be sold at above $30K in order to make a profit in US while the Japan MSRP is $2,998,000 Yen. By the same ratio, the WRX HAS to be sold at over $26K in order to be profitable while the Japan MSRP of the WRX is $2,598,000 Yen. Oh, I almost forget, the Japanese model also has AVCS, better seats, then I guess SOA must be having an over 10% loss each time a WRX is sold. The Eclipse is a product designed, manufactured and marketed ONLY for the US, so you cannot compare the EVO to an Eclipse. Sorry guys, I just don’t like when people expressing their opinions as if they are FACT that already happened. Mitsubishi press info about the EVO VII (the unreliable source): http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/inter/NEWS/0010-03/0101.html Kalins1 03-06-2001, 08:54 AM Automotive Weekly said that we would get the Evo 7, but it would be $30k+. Also, check out Nissan's website. They are up to something because there is a section on their Future Driven page about a high performance sedan that is coming out on 4/11/01. I know it isn't the Sentra. I'm thinking it is an Altima. XTREME 2.5 03-06-2001, 09:00 AM I gaurantee if the EVO comes to the US it will be some watered down,emmisions friendly, overpriced Mistu. Just my 2 cents. Damon 03-06-2001, 09:05 AM couldnt it be the sentra SE-R? that has been the buzz all over the import magz. and i see why. 180hp, 180lbs of torque.. thas a lil' monster. back to the subject at hand though.. i have not seen, or heard from any reliable source that the evo is coming to our shores. the Mirage will be renamed though, this coming up year to.. you guessed it.. lancer. that does not mean we will get the evo. we may down the road, due to the fact that Subaru has "upped the anty" so to say. it will be interesting to see if the influx of the really hardcore import sports cars will return (rx7, supra, 300z etc etc) in the next 5 years or so. RacerinLSL 03-06-2001, 09:15 AM Well Bling, last time I asked for your source, you never responded. And WHERE in that release does it say anything about the U.S. getting a sub $30k EVO??? Nowhere!! This argument could go on forever, but the fact is NO reliable source has said the car is coming here in its current form for under 30k. Quite a few respectable publications however have stated it might come over but will be over 30k like many other people have attested to in this thread. Chill RacerinLSL 03-06-2001, 09:29 AM Bling - I just read your post again and you proved yourself wrong. You named many reasons why the WRX in Japan would be more expensive than it is here, but your point was why "it should" be more expensive here. Thanks Sunrise City Rider 03-06-2001, 09:43 AM The handling on the EVO 6 is far superior to the Impreza WRX STi any Version. Its also got a bit more grunt as well. Zee bling 03-06-2001, 10:03 AM RacerinLSL, if you think I offended you, I’m sorry. OK, first I NEVER said the EVO IS COMING OVER FOR SURE. Where did I say that? What I ever said is “The possibility of the EVO coming to US is likely”, so does that make it the truth? Second, what I was trying to say is about the Japanese MSRP is you get WRX for $24K here while the one sold in Japan for 2.6M yen. According to the exchange rate, the USD is around 115 Yen now. So the US model is about 6% MORE EXPENSIVE than the Japanese model without the AVCS & some other goodies. Based on this same assumption, I ASSUMED the price of the EVO IF it even on sale in US WOULD be around $27-28K. Again, assumption. However, it’s not to a degree which it would make a 3M Yen EVO to be over $30K with the same logic and calculation. What I was trying to proved is that MY ASSUMPTION. And it’s those RESPECTABLE publications gave us the price estimation of the WRX over $26K. Of course everything we or others said is SPECULATIONS ONLY, no one is saying this is a sure thing here. I would never say that. However, what I see in your post is you sound like you already have the hard fact, otherwise I would never start this argument. Thanks. RacerinLSL 03-06-2001, 10:45 AM I understand what you're saying now Bling. I never meant to sound like I was stating fact. I guess I never saw where these low price speculations were coming from. Most publications seem to think it will cost more rather than less, but you're right, noone will know for sure until it does come over, if ever. CHadhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/cool.gif bling 03-06-2001, 11:02 AM Alright Man, cool. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif WRXwannbe 03-06-2001, 11:05 AM it's not whether it's cheap or is high priced for the evo. Mitsubi**** is having a few corporate problems and this began way back when dodge accuired a large portion of the company. Look back to 91 to 2000. Marketing has changed a lot. Early on we had the VR4's/RTT's the GSX/TSI's. Now we have v6's replacing he turbo (not really, they are a POS). The marketing stragedy today seems to be towards a more of a hybernation. Meaning it seems Mitsu is re-examining the US market right now, they don't want to take risks just yet. And yes the EVO is a risk although in my opinion it's not as big as a risk as what the 3000gt went through. If people won't pay 50g's for a 3000gt with all those goodies, what will make consumers pay for an evo? I'm all for the evo, but the general public is not. I urge you to go and visit your local mitsu dealer. look and see what this car company has become. Nothing but a company that just sells cars. Every car company has a performance car, mitsu at the present day has none. As I said before, just wait, let mistu see what they can do I assure you eventually 5-20 years the evo will show up. 98mpreziveRS 03-06-2001, 11:17 AM guys..why don't we all just wait and see..or if you get REALLY impatient, buy a Rally Evo..sure it isn't exactly street legal..but still an EVO..rally prepped at that http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif MarbleTurtle 03-06-2001, 11:39 AM ... and the new undercoating protects against scurvy! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif SubEd 03-06-2001, 11:43 AM Wannabe coins a new term with: "The marketing stragedy today..." Stragedy! That's great! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gifhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gifhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gifhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gifhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gifhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gif chauncey 03-06-2001, 01:47 PM My mom can beat up your dad! hehehe SnapperHead 03-06-2001, 02:05 PM Well, in Road & Track, according to one of the Mitsu reps, the car will have to be redesigned, the front-mount intercooler. Its the US safety regulations that have something to do with it also. They will have to change the front bumper, which then will make them have to change the IC and plumbing, and right now, according to the rep, there is no market over here for them to do the R&D. I saw your momma kickin a can down the block, and I asked her what she was doin. She said 'movin' bling 03-06-2001, 02:28 PM That particular statement was made regarding the EVO VI, which has a different body style than the EVO VII. The 97-01 Mirage’s bumper has to be redesigned due to this same reason. However, since Mirage is a bread & butter car for Mitsubishi, the cost of this R&D can be offset by the profit of the sale of Mirage. However, for a limited production car like EVO VI, it’s not cost effective to performance such modification. It’s a different story regarding the Lancer Cedia (base platform for EVO VII). Since the new Lancer is designed as a “world car” (spec compatible for most market in the work), it’s equipped with a 5mph collision bumper and steel reinforcement bar in the doors, and other safety features meeting DOT requirements). I assumed that would also be the same case for EVO VII, which will make the EVO VII chance of landing in US be higher. SnapperHead 03-06-2001, 02:33 PM Hope your right, the rep didn't say what version he was referring to, but it was the latest Road and Track. Xeno 03-06-2001, 03:12 PM also consider the fact that the WRX is mass produced.. the EVO VII will have 10,000 units.. how many of those will make it to our shores?.. i'd hazard a guess at 1-3000.. now that makes it quite a rare little car.. is mitus gonna let it go for a mere 28ishK ?.. no they arent.. they would be silly to.. they are gonna make sure they get the best of the buyer.. saying its X in Japan means it will be Y here is just plain silly.. its proven that a car brought in limited numbers into a market will extract a much higher selling price.. in that case.. its a sellers market.. they can name their price (within reason) .. and they knwo the serious fan will pay it.. you wont see a sub 30K fully tuned EVO VII.. end of deal.. you might see sub 30K 'tuned' Lancer.. and i doubt it will be turbo.. if the EVO VII comes here.. expect it in limited numbers.. and to pay 35K+ for it.. ba_feitl 03-06-2001, 03:23 PM why don't we all just run out and pick up a beautiful new Mirage and put 17" wheels on it, a big a$$ wing, and some EVO stickers plastered all over it ! I bet it'd cost much less than the real thing and nobody has to know any better ! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/lol.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif Damon 03-06-2001, 05:41 PM yea.. but i could tell the difference between a rice mirage and a evoVII im sure. and id be the one drivin. and id be the only one who counted. oh.. and that Rustang GT back there.. Impreza22B 03-06-2001, 07:14 PM SunriseCity: I agree with you on that one. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif Even the EvoIV can outperform the '02 WRX. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gifhttp://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif Hondaslayer 03-06-2001, 08:50 PM hey i would love to get a lancer always have always will but from what i was told by mitsubishi is that the u.s model will basically be mirage with a new wing grill wheels and a slight (20-30) h.p bump and with mitsu's reputation and recent safety coverups i say no thank you. i will spend my money on upgrades for my scooby. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/monkey.gif ChrisW 03-06-2001, 09:47 PM $27,000 for a Lancer Evo? Sure it's possible, I bought my 95 eagle Talon tsi AWD for $21900 new. It just depends on the options you get. You still have to consider that with the right options, a WRX can top $30000 Blindeye_03 03-06-2001, 10:14 PM turbo talons own the road...well right before a toyota supra twin turbo blows it by http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif N/A 03-07-2001, 02:51 AM Well I wonder if it would even matter how much Mitsubishi of America wants to charge for it. Reason is that if it meets US DOT standards for crash tests then it will be added to the list of importable cars. The shops like Motorex only do modifications to the bodies of the cars to get them within crash standards. The passing of the EPA guidelines can be met at any tuning shop who knows what they are doing. You can always detune a car. The DOT just controlled what shops were the authorized ones to convert for crash worthiness. If things work out it might be possible to just import it yourself. Especially a year after its come out and you can pick one up even cheaper. Then again they can take a year or so do decide what they want to do. I have time. I can drive the RS (with a turbo) for a while. N/A 03-07-2001, 02:51 AM Well I wonder if it would even matter how much Mitsubishi of America wants to charge for it. Reason is that if it meets US DOT standards for crash tests then it will be added to the list of importable cars. The shops like Motorex only do modifications to the bodies of the cars to get them within crash standards. The passing of the EPA guidelines can be met at any tuning shop who knows what they are doing. You can always detune a car. The DOT just controlled what shops were the authorized ones to convert for crash worthiness. If things work out it might be possible to just import it yourself. Especially a year after its come out and you can pick one up even cheaper. Then again they can take a year or so do decide what they want to do. I have time. I can drive the RS (with a turbo) for a while. Retsyn 03-07-2001, 07:34 AM I'll chime in here. I wouldn't even consider an EVO if Subaru hadn't gone mental with the ugly stick on the WRX. Now however... If Mitsu can offer me that kind of performance in a package that doesn't make me want to throw up. I'm there. I have the money, lets do it. I'd still rather have a B4 RSK, but that's not going to happen. Why would Mitsu bring the EVO over AND make it cheap? Because they NEED some positive press. They are in desperate need of an image boost. I hope they do bring it over. Maybe that would force Subaru to bring over the STI, keep it's price down AND rework the styling. As it stands right now the WRX doesn't really have any competitors here. They don't HAVE to do any of these things... Kevin Thomas 03-07-2001, 07:56 AM What if Mitsubishi decides to change the body styling or better yet, the headlights into something gruesome like the new WRX that's her. Would you all still consider buying the Evo? I hope it does come out. That's take away the attention from all of these cool 2.5RS's out here, let alone the WRX. Muhahaha! I hope 2.5RS's will be dirt cheap by the time the faster WRX's come out. Things are looking up me quickly. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/biggrin.gif I love the cars we already have. Retsyn 03-07-2001, 11:32 AM Nope. Superficial but it's the truth. I bought an 01 in Jan because I hated the WRX that much. I want it all. Performance, appearance and price. If Mitsu can do it, I'll consider it... 2.5 RRRRS 03-07-2001, 01:33 PM But the EVO doesnt have a FLAT FOUR and it's not a SUBARU. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/tongue.gif It's a Mitsubishi! Going from a Sube to Mitsu is sacrilege! N/A 03-07-2001, 03:13 PM Well we're not likely to see a bug eyed Evolution. Every one of them so far has kept the same headlights. Besides they just went to alot of trouble to raise the cars crash test rating and they wouldn't spend the time or money to redesign it now to make it uglier. Especially since some major banks just downgraded Mazda and Mitsubishi's debt rating. Meaning things got slightly worse. 98mpreziveRS 03-07-2001, 03:38 PM I agree..if we do get an EVO..hello 10K deposit a year before it goes up for sale... I REALLY want one.. i'd keep the wagon for a spares hauler and most likely highway cruiser for LONG trips..and work of course, and build the EVO as a race car (rally mainly..still street driven though http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif ) Hot&SourSoup 03-07-2001, 09:56 PM Here's what I've read from a local newspaper called the Toronto Star in Toronto, Canada. The relevant stuffs... ------------------------- Mitsubishi motors into Canada Fifty-one new dealerships will open coast-to-coast in 2003 Here's what you can expect to see in 2003: Lancer, which is due to replace the U.S.-market Mirage, is a small sedan and a competitor in the fierce Civic/Corolla class. Mitsubishi claims not only biggest interior room, but, with 2.0 litres, the biggest standard engine. A "rally" edition is also promised for the future -- though it's unlikely to have Tommi Makinen's WRC all-wheel drivetrain and turbocharged engine. --------------------------- Eby 03-07-2001, 10:08 PM Here's the new EVO, you can make up you're own mind wether you like its looks or not. To me it looks like Mitsubishi brought out the ugly stick as well. The front end reminds me of the new Mustang. Think I like the Subaru better. <IMG SRC="http://web1.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/EVO/image/style_photo0.gif" border=0> [This message has been edited by Eby (edited March 07, 2001).] Impreza22B 03-08-2001, 12:28 AM I love it! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif If that body style is also coming to the US, I would buy it, regardless of what engine, turbo or non-turbo. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smilies/smile.gif N/A 03-08-2001, 05:23 AM Hey I saw a new Evo7 RS model at the Mitsu dealership today that was yellow too! Man that car looks cool as hell in the flesh. I bet it will look alot better with the new bumpers that are out for it. Just remove the bumper reinforcements that were added and then you can put it back to looking like the Evo6. The dealer wouldn't let me drive the car though. I think I'll have to swing back by and get some digital pics of it tomorrow. |