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PolTec Inc 02-10-2004, 08:05 PM Looking for end-links, we have all applications available for shipping.
For ultimate performance get end links with spherical bearings:
REAR LINKS (http://216.180.233.151/~poltec/Automotive/Suspension/Rear_links/Rear_Links.htm)
http://216.180.233.151/~poltec/Automotive/Suspension/Rear_links/SS_rear_1.jpg
Or, if you still want to have some cushion, we have combination links with one side with spherical bearing and other with urethane bushing.
http://216.180.233.151/~poltec/Automotive/Suspension/Rear_links/sp_rear_1.jpg
Finally we have FRONT LINKS (http://216.180.233.151/~poltec/Automotive/Suspension/Front_links/Front_Links.htm) for any Subaru.
We also do specials, just give us a call or send a PM.
UPDATE
As fo March 15, the front aluminum links for RS and WRX wagon (red) are out of stock, we will have them back on Aprill 1st. Sorry for the inconvinience.
Dariusz
stirex 02-10-2004, 08:48 PM sent you a pm
PolTec Inc 02-11-2004, 03:42 PM Bump
Craigs 02-11-2004, 07:52 PM Sent PM this am.
Craig
PolTec Inc 02-12-2004, 12:03 AM Craig, I just responded to your PM. Let me know what you think.
Craigs 02-12-2004, 09:27 AM Mind sending it again - didn't get it.
Thanks,
Craig
PolTec Inc 02-12-2004, 07:01 PM Craig, please check your PMs again.
PolTec Inc 02-12-2004, 11:22 PM ttt
PolTec Inc 02-13-2004, 08:20 PM bump
PolTec Inc 02-14-2004, 07:23 PM TTT
PeteDucati 02-14-2004, 07:29 PM Installed the adjustable front links with the Perrin front swaybar.. very nice quality. I also installed the rear adjustable links, now the Perrin rear swaybar is far from hitting my exhaust. Very nice products, I'd recommend them to anyone. Instructions were good and the extra flat and lock washers was much appreciated.
PolTec Inc 02-16-2004, 04:47 PM Pete,
I am glad that everything worked out for you and thanks for the kind words.
Dariusz
Davenow 02-16-2004, 05:18 PM JUst ordered a set of the half bushing/half sperical rears :) (sending paypal now)
pdximpreza 02-16-2004, 08:01 PM Will the front fit a '02 RS?
I assume they will since your post says any Subaru, but the site only says STi.
PolTec Inc 02-16-2004, 08:35 PM Davenow,
Thank You for the order, your links will ship tomorrow.
pdximpreza
We have two different kinds of front links. One fits 2.5RS and WRX Wagon
http://216.180.233.151/~poltec/Automotive/Suspension/Front_links/adj_front_rs_600.jpg
and other fits WRX sedan and STi
http://216.180.233.151/~poltec/Automotive/Suspension/Front_links/Endlinks_WRX_Sedan_front_300.jpg
You can order them HERE (http://www.poltec.us/Automotive/Suspension/Front_links/Front_Links.htm)
Bolster 02-17-2004, 09:32 AM Originally posted by pdximpreza
Will the front fit a '02 RS?
I assume they will since your post says any Subaru, but the site only says STi.
I'm pretty sure the WRX sedan and 2.5RS share the same type of link in the front, so Poltec's WRX Sedan front links should do the trick for you.
PolTec Inc 02-17-2004, 04:20 PM I'm pretty sure the WRX sedan and 2.5RS share the same type of link in the front, so Poltec's WRX Sedan front links should do the trick for you.
WRX Sedan's front links are thin metal with pillowball mounts and WRX wagon as well as RS have plastic thick links with rubber bushings and those will have smaller hardware on the bottom.
pdximpreza 02-17-2004, 04:39 PM So I see in that pic that they are red.
Do they come in blue? And what about the rear, can I get those anodized blue also?
PolTec Inc 02-17-2004, 05:33 PM Do they come in blue? And what about the rear, can I get those anodized blue also?
At this point, we do not offer any blue links, however, if there is enough interest, we might do a custom run in a collor of choice.
sem23tex 02-17-2004, 05:50 PM Hey would I get a break on shipping or be able to pick them up because I am in Chicago?? Looking for the front sway bar end links. I have Noltec's that suck and want to upgrade to yours.
pdximpreza 02-17-2004, 06:30 PM I hate to be picky about color =)
Do the fronts only come in red then?
PolTec Inc 02-17-2004, 06:43 PM sem23tex,
Certainly, I can shipp them to you free, just send me an email and I will let you know what to do.
pdximpreza
At this point, the RS front links are only red but we will have a economy ($59/set) silver version available this week, although, they will be steel and without teflon liner.
Dariusz
Battlewgn02 02-17-2004, 10:22 PM Sent PM with some questions.
PolTec Inc 02-17-2004, 11:43 PM Battlewgn02
Check your PM's.
VITEKi 02-18-2004, 04:44 AM great parts that came from Mcmaster
PolTec Inc 02-18-2004, 05:51 PM great parts that came from Mcmaster
Actually, if we bought the parts there we would hardly make any money (buying larger quantities helps a little), especially after you add up all the hardware and custom spacers required (the picture does not the full assembly). Not to mention the time one would need to spend researching.
Now, getting back to business.
For those that placed the orders yesterday, thank you, the parts will ship today.
Dariusz
Nivek-CA 02-18-2004, 08:37 PM Poltec, how do your rear end links differ from the aftermarket STI links that come with the six piece rear kit?
What kind of handling difference is there?
If I do not compete, is this a wise investment in handling?
supermarkus 02-18-2004, 08:47 PM Originally posted by VITEKi
great parts that came from Mcmaster
When I looked up the parts on McMaster's site (page 1048), the high capacity SS metric ones ran about 34 bucks per piece, so for two complete links it worked out to over $120 :( I haven't found a high quality alternative to these yet. After about 3 hours of research, this seems like a decent deal for the links.
PolTec Inc 02-18-2004, 09:11 PM Poltec, how do your rear end links differ from the aftermarket STI links that come with the six piece rear kit?
Are you referring to the pink STi control arm kit? If so, our links for the USDM STi will not be suitable for this application since the links for the pink set are much longer. However, we just did a prototype replacement for one of the members of this board and if everything works out we may start offering those as well.
With that said, the stock links are quite good but our links offer about twice the load carrying capacity and you can adjust their length to eliminate away bar preload.
Dariusz
PolTec Inc
Nivek-CA 02-19-2004, 02:49 AM This is the setup on my car currently any thoughts?
http://realitydesign.tv/zz.sti/Suspension/P1090105.JPG
ellisnc 02-19-2004, 07:28 AM Is that a stabi bar from an 04? The angle is screwed up... look at that and ask yourself how that can possibly offer any roll control. Either that or the stock suspension has a lot of droop in it... Maybe I'm just used to seeing mine that takes about one pump to get the tires in the air.
:confused:
PolTec Inc 02-19-2004, 09:49 AM Nivek-CA
This is the set up that I mentioned, OvRclockR should receive the first prototype today, and if everything works out, we will start selling it in March. I do have one more prototype ready; send me an email if you want it.
Regarding the box, we also plan on selling it starting in March, it would be made from billet aluminum.
Dariusz
Nivek-CA 02-19-2004, 11:55 AM Originally posted by ellisnc
Is that a stabi bar from an 04? The angle is screwed up... look at that and ask yourself how that can possibly offer any roll control. Either that or the stock suspension has a lot of droop in it... Maybe I'm just used to seeing mine that takes about one pump to get the tires in the air.
:confused:
Ok I am a bit confused, but this picture was taken while the car was in the air. Does that change anything?
Poltect PM'd you.
OvRclockR 02-19-2004, 01:27 PM I'll post pictures with the prototype installed this weekend.
Nivek-CA, Your rear sway bar has a wierd downward angle. Especially for 22mm setting. I believe the ends of the sway bar are suppose to be parrallel to the floor. Anybody have something to say about this?
Nivek-CA 02-19-2004, 01:36 PM Yes, anybody???
I will also try to get a pic of it while on the ground to see how much the angle has changed.
Bolster 02-19-2004, 01:38 PM If it's off the ground, then it should appear as it does in that picture.
OvRclockR 02-19-2004, 02:09 PM I thought the official way io install sway bars is to install it with the car on the ground on a flat surface.
With the car on the ground. You have to get dirty and lay on the ground.
-Albert
PolTec Inc 02-21-2004, 05:16 PM TTT
Nivek-CA 02-21-2004, 05:30 PM Originally posted by PolTec Inc
Are you referring to the pink STi control arm kit? If so, our links for the USDM STi will not be suitable for this application since the links for the pink set are much longer. However, we just did a prototype replacement for one of the members of this board and if everything works out we may start offering those as well.
With that said, the stock links are quite good but our links offer about twice the load carrying capacity and you can adjust their length to eliminate away bar preload.
Dariusz
PolTec Inc
Any word about the prototype...fitting
red04 02-22-2004, 07:24 AM how much for fronts and non-adjustable rears together? thanks
-Adam
PolTec Inc 02-23-2004, 07:35 PM Adam,
I sent you an email.
Any word about the prototype...fitting
Albert has reported some clunking from bottom side of the link (apparently something is loose). I just shipped him a new prototype that should adress the issue (it uses different bushings). It looks like it will be another couple of days before we find out.
Dariusz
PolTec Inc 02-24-2004, 06:06 PM bump
PolTec Inc 02-25-2004, 05:27 PM I have an update for those that want end links for the STi V8 controll arm set (see picture below).
http://realitydesign.tv/zz.sti/Suspension/P1090105.JPG
OvRclockR has reported that the second set of prototypes does not have any clunking so far and is working as intended. He has also made a few sugestions about the links that we will incorporate in our final design. For those that would be interested in purchasing those links, they will be available by the end of the next week and we will have a promotion for the firs 5 customers. Contact us for pictures or if you would like to pre-order them.
Just to clarify, this will not include the pink "box" that the links mount to, the box should be available by March 15-th.
ellisnc 02-25-2004, 09:21 PM Poltec,
Could you PM me... I'd like a set of the front links and rear links for the STi 6 piece set. I'd be willing to test fit some for you and give feed back as I'll be corner weighting my car in a couple weeks myself and be at the track the first weekend in April.
Nivtek, it looks like you're using a mismatch of parts or something. Like the pink links you're using are from a 03 and the stabi bar is from a 04.
Take a picture of the car on the ground under compression and that'll be the only way to know since I'm used to the reduced droop of my suspension. The stabi end-parts don't have to be parallel to the ground but the closer they are to being parallel with the endlinks the more the system will bind up when it moves around.
PolTec Inc 02-26-2004, 05:06 PM ellisnc
I have sent you an email, let me know if you got it.
PolTec Inc 02-27-2004, 04:04 PM ttt
nhluhr 02-27-2004, 04:23 PM how about the pics of the prototype "box" adapter for the 6-piece STi Sport Lateral Link Kit owners.
spankaveli 02-28-2004, 01:01 PM do these links come with hardware?
http://216.180.233.151/~poltec/Automotive/Suspension/Rear_links/SS_rear_1.jpg
PolTec Inc 02-28-2004, 02:45 PM All of our products include hardware with extras in case you happen to lose something.
spankaveli 02-28-2004, 02:50 PM awesome, ill be ordering tuesday
PolTec Inc 02-28-2004, 10:44 PM spankaveli, I will be waiting for the order.
how about the pics of the prototype "box" adapter for the 6-piece STi Sport Lateral Link Kit owners.
nhluhr, I emailed you the pictures to the adress that you sent earlier.
nhluhr 02-29-2004, 07:32 AM i like what I see :-)
I am going to paint them "Cherry Blossom Red" when i get them.
How do I pay and what's the total? I emailed my shipping address.
POLTEC ROCKS
AustinTexas 03-01-2004, 12:53 AM are the STi end links available anodized? If i order a set now, will they ship immediately? Also, through reading I understand some brands (not necessarily yours) have problems with bearing failure. Have you experienced this?
PolTec Inc 03-01-2004, 09:46 AM AustinTexas,
The STi end links are not availabel anodized, however, we might consider doing a custom links for you but his would be more expensive.
Generally, we ship items within one day, however, this week we will not be able to ship anything untill Wednesday.
Regarding the bearing failure, we have not seen any reports of our links failing and I hope things will stay that way. As we mentioned before,we do stand by our products and if they fail we will take them back.
spankaveli 03-02-2004, 09:49 AM paypaled you for the full spherical end links :cool:
Nivek-CA 03-02-2004, 12:22 PM Can you send me a picture of your new prototype for the STI pink box.
Are you still in business? :D
i've sent you emails and pms, but i haven't heard from you yet.
I just needa buy a set of the STi rear endlinks for my pink box.
edit * i'll send them 100 bucks once they get back to me too :D
spankaveli 03-03-2004, 02:51 PM Originally posted by bwco
Are you still in business?
i've sent you emails and pms, but i haven't heard from you yet.
I just needa buy a set of the STi rear endlinks for my pink box. I hope so, I just sent em 100 bucks :o
stevesparts 03-03-2004, 04:25 PM :confused: :confused:
Hey are you still in business???????
also sent e-mail NO answer:huh: :huh:
just wondering. Steve.
spankaveli 03-03-2004, 04:27 PM Maybe you should call them?
I just called about an hour or so ago and they verified receiving my order and said it'll ship out today.
http://www.poltec.us/Automotive/Automotive.html
PolTec Inc 03-03-2004, 04:32 PM Do not worry folks, we wre very much in business.
bwco, I sent you PM.
spankaveli, your order will ship today.
Regarding the "pink box" replacement, here is the picture of the prototypes that nhluhr will be testing soon. If possible, I would like few more of you to test them as well, send us email if you are interested.
http://www.poltec.us/Automotive/Suspension/Rear_links/box_and_endlinks2.jpg
The box is made of billet aluminum and the end-links are oversized versions of our USDM STi end-links.
spankaveli 03-03-2004, 04:35 PM I was takin' up for ya. :D
You guys seem very friendly on the phone and I'm confident I'll be ordering from you again in the future. :cool:
Darshu 03-03-2004, 04:43 PM I was the first buyer for your front links for the GC8/WRX Wagon and I'd like to give your STi-style endlink prototypes a shot on a GC8 too. The relocation of the endlink bracket is a great move from a performance standpoint. :) I sent you an email.
stevesparts 03-03-2004, 04:46 PM :) :) IT'S all Good now;)
Thanxs. Steve.:cool:
nhluhr 03-04-2004, 04:18 AM i paypal'd sunday night and had the links + boxes in hand wednesday. Excellent!
I can't wait to put these bad mothers on.
Thanks, Poltec.
PolTec Inc 03-04-2004, 05:12 PM Guys, thank you for the support and good words.
Darshu,
I will give you the answer this afternoon, I want to make sure that it will work for you.
PolTec Inc 03-05-2004, 03:39 PM ttt
PolTec Inc 03-06-2004, 05:05 PM Darshu,
Your links will be ready by Wednesday.
spankaveli 03-06-2004, 05:23 PM was there a eta on my end links? no worries but the usps tracking sucks
Darshu 03-07-2004, 01:46 AM Thanks Poltec :) Looking forward to giving them a shot!
PolTec Inc 03-08-2004, 07:49 PM was there a eta on my end links? no worries but the usps tracking sucks
It should be there today.
spankaveli 03-08-2004, 08:21 PM Got it! :cool:
OvRclockR 03-08-2004, 11:20 PM Here are some pictures of Poltec link installed on pink STI lateral link set.
PICTURES HERE (http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/albertursua/album?.dir=/324d&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/albertursua/)
REVIEW HERE (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=516285&highlight=poltec)
Just a little thought here, dont know if it make sense or not.
For the people who have pink 6 piece with that little pink box. If you sandwich a big (1 inch diameter) washer in between the endlink & pink box, does that do anything to reduce the stress on the pink box? or even weld it on the pink box surface , so that act like a reinforcer?
What i was thinking is, it's better to have the force distributed around the spacer when it's under load, better than have it stressed at one point ( the screw).
Just my little thought that i was thinking. Don't know if it help or not. I've pink box as well, so i don't wanna break it too.
OvRclockR 03-09-2004, 12:42 PM I think STI should of boxed off the top of the end link mount for re-inforcement. They probably left it open so you can access a wrench in there to mount and dismount the end link.
PolTec Inc 03-09-2004, 06:50 PM For the people who have pink 6 piece with that little pink box. If you sandwich a big (1 inch diameter) washer in between the endlink & pink box, does that do anything to reduce the stress on the pink box? or even weld it on the pink box surface , so that act like a reinforcer?
If you look at the control arm bushings they have a metal tube inside the rubber bushing and the outside diameter of that tube is much smaller than the OD of the washer so, by adding the washer, you will not increase effective mounting surface of the "box" signifficantly. Besides, this is not the place where people experienced failures.
I think STI should of boxed off the top of the end link mount for re-inforcement. They probably left it open so you can access a wrench in there to mount and dismount the end link.
This would help but I do not think that it would be sufficient when using 24mm sway bar. I think that I saw failures of the "box" with 22mm sway bars already.
PolTec Inc 03-10-2004, 03:52 PM TTT
PolTec Inc 03-11-2004, 05:40 PM bump
nhluhr 03-12-2004, 08:00 AM yeah so like, I installed my Poltec adapter boxes (the billet aluminum things pictured above) and OMG. They fit perfectly, work extremely well (they feel wayyy better than the Kartboy I took off for the install) and they also took a coat of STI Pink very well :)
Thanks Poltec for the awesome job with these! That was money WELL spent!
OvRclockR 03-12-2004, 01:04 PM Lets see pictures!!
nhluhr 03-12-2004, 08:40 PM my roommate has been "borrowing" my camera for over a week now. :rolleyes:
I'll get a pic as soon as I can.
Thanks Poltec, great product. I replaced my stock endlinks which one fo them broke in half and yours are much stronger. However, I noticed that they tend to lean towards one side, either towards driver side or passenger side instead of staying straight. Otherwise the car handles great. :)
Originally posted by PolTec Inc
Do not worry folks, we wre very much in business.
bwco, I sent you PM.
spankaveli, your order will ship today.
Regarding the "pink box" replacement, here is the picture of the prototypes that nhluhr will be testing soon. If possible, I would like few more of you to test them as well, send us email if you are interested.
http://www.poltec.us/Automotive/Suspension/Rear_links/box_and_endlinks2.jpg
The box is made of billet aluminum and the end-links are oversized versions of our USDM STi end-links.
hey poltec, i wonder if the final product will be the same thing as these? or we'll have the shiny silver color end links same as what your website listed?
one more question, i found some of these (golden color) endlink shell (without bearings and stuff) selling from a home hardware store here in Canada. So, the endlink you guys selling are different from those that I see? I'm totally a noob here, i thought i would like to ask for more details in these link.
Thanks in advance
nhluhr 03-14-2004, 09:23 AM Originally posted by OvRclockR
Lets see pictures!!
As promised:
http://wrx.dicknogs.com/suspension/poltec_stisport_box.jpg
http://wrx.dicknogs.com/suspension/poltec_stisport_box2.jpg
OvRclockR 03-15-2004, 01:16 AM :eek:
drees 03-15-2004, 01:27 AM Is there a noticable difference in noise/harshness with the full bearing vs the bearing/bushing endlinks?
Do the endlinks make any more noise than conventional bushing endlinks?
Thanks,
Dave
PolTec Inc 03-15-2004, 09:39 AM Thanks Poltec, great product. I replaced my stock endlinks which one of them broke in half and yours are much stronger. However, I noticed that they tend to lean towards one side, either towards driver side or passenger side instead of staying straight. Otherwise the car handles great.
Thank You, I am glad that you like them, regarding the movement of the sway bar, little movement is normal with links that use spherical bearings since they eliminate restrictions that links with urethane/rubber bushings impose.
hey poltec, i wonder if the final product will be the same thing as these? or we'll have the shiny silver color end links same as what your website listed?
Final versions will also be gold and we will be using these components for the USDM STi applications as well. We decided to do that as a result of the recent problems with Cusco bars, these golden links are actually about 50% stronger than the silver links.
Is there a noticable difference in noise/harshness with the full bearing vs the bearing/bushing endlinks?
Do the endlinks make any more noise than conventional bushing endlinks?
You might experience slight increase in vibrations as your suspension works but it will be only a fraction of what performance tires or stiffer springs would add.
Links themselves should not make any noise but may bring out noise that your sway bar makes since you will no longer have rubber bushings. If you are concerned about it, you may try our combination links that have one spherical bearing and one urethane bushing.
nhluhr,
Thank You for the pictures, nice paint job BTW.;)
nhluhr 03-15-2004, 12:48 PM Originally posted by drees
Is there a noticable difference in noise/harshness with the full bearing vs the bearing/bushing endlinks?
Do the endlinks make any more noise than conventional bushing endlinks?
Thanks,
Dave
Compared to STOCK yes, but I had GroupN bushings on there before and now it's actually a little more "supple" over bumps. I attribute that to the bearings actually moving instead of the ultra hard rubber GroupN bushings just deflecting.
Even though it feels smoother, imho, than GroupN bushings, the rear still feels much more located and precise. You can ask my STI-driving roommate how controllable my car is. I'm able to toss it around freeway cloverleafs and easily balance between throttle and lift-off oversteer. It doesn't snap out of control like it did with the stock stuff... It just keeps itself right where you want it.
drees 03-15-2004, 12:57 PM Originally posted by nhluhr
Even though it feels smoother, imho, than GroupN bushings, the rear still feels much more located and precise. You should take up sales. ;) I'm going to order a set to replace my poly bushing endlinks, not having any extra binding in the bushings sounds great.
PolTec Inc 03-17-2004, 04:10 PM TTT
PolTec Inc 03-20-2004, 04:54 PM bump
AK_2002_WRX 03-21-2004, 04:56 AM would i notice a big change in my cars handling by getting these endlinks?
PolTec Inc 03-21-2004, 03:13 PM AK_2002_WRX,
The difference in handling will depand on the size of the sway bar that you are using, the bigger the sway bar the bigger the difference that you will notice, plus you do not have to worry about them braking on you like the stock links could.
The links with spherical bearings will give you the biggest difference, since they will always keep their effective length the same unlike links with urethane bushings that will always compress more or less depending on the design.
Ans with our links you do not have to worry about bearings wearing out or rusting since we seal them with rubber seals that keep the grease in and water and dirt out, no other links with sphearical bearings have that feature, not even Perrins and they sell for a lot more.
AK_2002_WRX 03-21-2004, 04:55 PM im usin the stock sway for now, and i am planning to get a cusco. i just wanted to put them on part by part to see the difference. is the vibration and harshness a lot more noticeable?
also i'm going to order your solid endlinks with the spherical bearings tonite:cool:
thanks a lot!
drees 03-22-2004, 02:05 AM After installing Poltec's endlinks, I didn't notice any additional vibration or harshness.
PolTec Inc 03-24-2004, 03:07 PM ttt
spankaveli 03-24-2004, 03:09 PM Originally posted by drees
After installing Poltec's endlinks, I didn't notice any additional vibration or harshness. ditto, only thing i noticed was the rigidness increased :cool:
ciper 03-25-2004, 12:33 AM Just ordered. Great idea to use the PayPal linked checkout.
If you order both fronts and rears together you save 6 dollars on shipping! (total 10 instead of 16)
Cant wait to get them. They will be replacing whiteline units.
Sorry PolTec, one more question... actually two...
I'm concerning about the ball in the housing. Since the stock endlink has a closed black steel housing that hide the ball inside the housing. Now, these endlinks came with an exposed balls. So, when we're doing autox or on track, is there a chance that the balls being pulled out? In other words, is there a thrust rating on the balls? Does it handle side loads? Or my concern is totally nonsense?
Thanks for your reply
PolTec Inc 03-26-2004, 08:01 PM bwco,
Those are good questions and we did take them under consideration while designing our links.
1. The stock links do not have the ball completely enclosed, there has to be opening for the mounting bolt that you use to mount the links.
2. The balls in the links do not experience any axial (sideways/thrust) loads since they always align themselves with the forces that they are carrying so that they only experience either tension or compression. To illustrate this, imagine holding the bottom screw of the link horizontally and pull on the top screw sideways, if you do that, the link will tilt with little resistance since it is going to swivel around the bottom ball. No resistance will be felt until you reach the allowable travel, however, in real life, the links will never reach that point because the sway bar and control arm constrain this motion and our links are designed to operate in this range plus some margin of safety trough use of special spacers that allow for maximum swivel.
3. Bearings that we use are not thrust rated; however, they do withstand about 500lbs of axial loads.
In other words, I do not think that this should be a problem with our links and we have not had any instances of that happening.
Regards
Dariusz
PolTec Inc
Darryl 03-27-2004, 12:36 PM Dariusz,
I have a set of your front endlinks on order. How do I adjust these for the stock front bar on my WRX sedan? Is the install difficult, or just pretty much straight forward?
thanks,
Darryl
PolTec Inc 03-27-2004, 03:54 PM The installation should be simple and, as far as the adjustment goes, we include instruction on how to make the links longer and how to install them. You do not have to do any adjustments unless the sway bar has to be forced to accept the endlinks, than you would make one of the links longer depending on which direction the sway bar is misaligned.
If you have any questions during the installation, just give us a call @ 708/308-0947
Dariusz
Darryl 03-27-2004, 06:42 PM Originally posted by PolTec Inc
The installation should be simple and, as far as the adjustment goes, we include instruction on how to make the links longer and how to install them. You do not have to do any adjustments unless the sway bar has to be forced to accept the endlinks, than you would make one of the links longer depending on which direction the sway bar is misaligned.
If you have any questions during the installation, just give us a call @ 708/308-0947
Dariusz
thanks, D
I'll keep an eye out for my links (hopefully by the end of next week! :D
Darryl
PolTec Inc 03-29-2004, 08:10 PM Daryl
Your links will shipp tomorrow.
JohnW 03-30-2004, 08:02 PM I just ordered a pair of front endlinks for WRX Wagon. Are they back in stock or are we talking 4/1 still?
Thanks!
PolTec Inc 03-30-2004, 11:51 PM We have them in already, yours will shipp tomorrow.
PolTec Inc 04-02-2004, 03:46 PM Bump
PolTec Inc 04-05-2004, 02:41 PM TTT
PolTec Inc 04-07-2004, 04:24 PM One more time.
M E R C U R Y 04-09-2004, 12:13 AM got rear end links in other colors for 2000 rs?
PolTec Inc 04-10-2004, 03:18 PM We should have some available next month, we will have: red, blue, silver, and yellow.
PolTec Inc 04-12-2004, 08:56 PM ttt
PolTec Inc 04-15-2004, 07:29 PM bump
imminence 04-16-2004, 06:28 PM How much for your STi rear endlinks and swaybar centering clamps? Thanks.
PolTec Inc 04-16-2004, 07:13 PM How much for your STi rear endlinks and swaybar centering clamps? Thanks.
$122 shipped, send me an email if you want to order them.
Thanks
Dariusz
PolTec Inc
2.2gotboost 04-16-2004, 08:58 PM Are front endlinks for an 02 WRX sedan in stock?
Thanks John
PolTec Inc 04-16-2004, 11:35 PM Are front endlinks for an 02 WRX sedan in stock?
Yes they are, but only the yellow/gold ones, however they are only $69 + S&H for a set.
New silver versions will be in in a few weeks and they will be more expensive.
Send me an email if you want a set.
Dariusz
Darryl 04-17-2004, 10:17 AM I just wanted to chime in to pay my props to Dariusz, and Poltec. My links finally arrived (after some issues with the USPS!),and install was straight-forward. Since I'm basically keeping my suspension stock, the effect of these links was not "dramatic", but was easily noticable. They are of the highest quality, imho, and have serious heft to them. Great price, great vendor, great service. Life is good! :D
Oh, I have Kartboy solid end links of the rear. With only the Kartboys in back, there was a nice decrease in understeer. When I added the Poltec links, some of that understeer returned. No doubt the front end firmed up with the new links. So, I adjusted the rear tire pressure down a bit (36f/34r), and regained the improved rotation of the rear end. Overall, the car is now a nice bit sharper than stock; very good for a street car.
I have Energy Suspension bushings on order for the stock anti-roll bars, and I hope they help tighten things up a bit. On Monday my car goes in the shop to have a rev-lab 11.5:1 quick rack installed with Noltec rack bushings. Then I need to see how the stock suspension handles that mod. Either way, I'm not looking for a go-kart ride. I test-drove an EVO8, and new I had to "fix" the steering on my dear old REX.
again, MAJOR props to Dariusz, and Poltec.
darryl
Oeste Lado 04-20-2004, 01:31 AM just wanted to say that i just received my endlinks and theyre great. i highly recommend poltec based on built quality, warranty, and customer service. cant wait to get em on!
IwantONE 04-21-2004, 06:28 PM How noticeable is the difference between the spherical bearings on both sides and the half comfort bushings? Is there a lot of excess noise or just a slightly harsher ride? Thanks.
Alex
Darryl 04-21-2004, 08:17 PM I'm not sure what you're referring to, Alex. I will say of the Poltecs that there is no noticable increase in nvh. I tink it actually stiffens the front bar up a little bit. I know because I was driving with only the kartboys. With just them, I noticed a nice decrease in understeer, the tail coming around nicely. Add the Poltecs, and back come s the understeer. So I lowered the rear tire pressure a bit.
Of course those links in concert with the new quick rack, well, it's no work to place the car where you want it
darryl
PolTec Inc 04-22-2004, 09:45 AM Guys,
I am glad you liked the end-links, thank you for the recomendations.
IwantONE
End links with both spherical bearings will offer just slightly harsher ride, most people won't notice any difference between then as the urethane bushings in the combination end links are quite stiff, however, the diference might be more pronounced if you have bar that is larger than 24mm (effective dia.).
Other than that, none of them should generate any noise.
Dariusz
PolTec Inc
Darshu 04-25-2004, 12:06 AM I finally got around to installing the STI-style rear links on my GC8. Fit and finish is beautiful and it was a breeze to adjust them to so they slot right in to the mounting holes. Major change from non-adjustable links, no-preload! Driving impressions: these things are a huge improvement over the kartboy rear links I had before. The car is frighteningly neutral now. Weight transfer at the limit is ultra-smooth and so easy to control. With poly bushings, even harder ones like the kartboys, fine steering adjustments under full load are more vague because any change in load allows the bushings to deflect and load back up.
Anyway, totally awesome pieces. Thanks Dariusz!
BSLICKOH 04-28-2004, 09:38 PM Your front suspension page, unless I'm overlooking something obvious, doesn't say that any of your options will fit a WRX wagon. The red ones say they don't fit a WRX sedan, but don't confirm for a wagon, and the silver ones specifically say they do fit a WRX sedan, implying they don't for a wagon. Are the red ones ok for a wagon?
For your adjustable rears, how does the size compare to stock? At the longest setting, is it the same, and then it gets smaller from there? Can't quite tell from the picture.
Is there any reason that these links would _not_ work or be desireable with Cobb's 25mm tubular sway bars? You mentioned that the difference in harshness might be noticeable for bars larger than 24mm.
mrscary 04-29-2004, 01:48 AM Dariusz I installed the front end links this morning and for the first time in a year I'm not getting the binding I described to you, wheels turned when entering or leaving pitched driveway with a high curb. My set up is an 02 wagon , perrin front adjustiable sway bar and I had whiteline links. I'm looking foward to bending the car around! So far so Good Thanks! Scott Fyi they are the red links on his web site.
04 silver bullet 04-29-2004, 01:50 AM Originally posted by PolTec Inc
End links with both spherical bearings will offer just slightly harsher ride, most people won't notice any difference between then as the urethane bushings in the combination end links are quite stiff, however, the diference might be more pronounced if you have bar that is larger than 24mm (effective dia.).
Other than that, none of them should generate any noise.
Dariusz
PolTec Inc
So what type endlinks would be best for say a 25mm rear bar, spherical bearing or urethane? I'm gonna be running Hotchkis (or Cobb) tubular sway bars which are 25mm bars. How much are you getting for the rear end links shipped. I'm in the market right now:D Thanks
--Jay--
JohnW 04-29-2004, 02:24 AM Dariusz,
Do you have the adjustable rear end links for a WRX Wagon 2002? I'm looking to replace some older Kartboy endlinks with the full spherical bearing and eliminate preloading since my car is corner weighted.
Also, I need them by this weekend for autox... Let me know and I'll paypal you ASAP.
John
PolTec Inc 04-29-2004, 09:34 AM BSLICKOH,
End links for the WRX wagon are the red ones; it looks like I need to update this page soon.
The rear adjustable links are slightly shorter (about 1/2 in.) than the stock links even if set to the longest setting.
Regarding the Cobb's tubular sway bars, it seems that some had rubbing issues with other brands of end links. At this point I cannot confirm that they will fit since I do not know if any one tried our links on such sway bar. If you are interested, I can include longer spacers between the bar and the links that will provide you more clearance in case the regular spacers are too short for this application. Other thing about the links with spherical bearings is that you can tilt the body of the link away from the sway bar without affecting links performance.
N.V.H. will be more noticeable with larger sway-bars but still only fraction of what you would experience with performance tires, springs or sway bar itself.
Scott,
I am glad the links helped, keep us posted. Nice car BTW.
04 silver bullet,
End-links with spherical bearings give you most benefits with larger sway bars. Bushings will deform as opposed to bearings that will always keep the effective length of the end links the same and the effective rate of the bar that is not reduced by the bushings flexing - no more delayed response.
Please red above for the issues regarding the end links rubbing on the tubular sway bars, if you mention your bar during ordering I will include the longer spacers for you as well.
The non-adjustable links with spherical bearings are $97.00 shipped. You can place the order on our website using PayPal, or you can send us a check or MO.
JohnW
We have those link in stock and ready for shipment, give me a call if you need express delivery.
Thanks
Dariusz
PolTec Inc
708/308-0947
BSLICKOH 04-29-2004, 10:48 AM Thanks for the response.
Order placed for front and rear adjustables. :D
PolTec Inc 04-30-2004, 09:13 AM Order placed for front and rear adjustables.
Your order shipped today, I made you some longer/different spacer that should allow you to mount the endlink far enough from the sway bar to avoid any interference.
Dariusz
tundra 05-01-2004, 11:50 PM Hi Dariusz,
Are you still looking for test fitters for the STi 6 piece "pink box" replacement? Or maybe they've been released?
Either way I'd like to partake in the fun please! I just installed the STi 6 piece and I'm afraid my little pink boxes will break.... I have a Cusco rear sway and it's only a matter of time
Let me know if we can set something up
-Matt
typer_126 05-02-2004, 12:02 AM I'm pretty sure they're production pieces now. I just got s set last week. :D
Trip McNealy 05-02-2004, 07:55 PM Just sent in payment via PayPal for a set of the rear spherical endlinks. can't wait to receive :D
PolTec Inc 05-03-2004, 09:44 AM Matt,
The end links and boxes for the STi pink set are available and will be on our website within next week. If you would like to place the order now, I PM'ed you with details on how to do it.
Trip McNealy
Your end-links will shipp today.
Thank You
Dariusz
PolTec INc
BSLICKOH 05-04-2004, 09:54 AM Got mine yesterday! Thanks for the fast shipment. Now if my sway bars would just hurry up and get here....
PolTec Inc 05-06-2004, 04:58 PM Got mine yesterday! Thanks for the fast shipment. Now if my sway bars would just hurry up and get here....
You're welcome. I hope you'll like them.
PolTec Inc 05-10-2004, 03:58 PM ttt
spankaveli 05-10-2004, 04:00 PM I don't know if I posted feedback or not but if not, I'd like to vouch for the endlinks. I got the solid nonadjustables with both bearing mounts. The car is definitely more responsive than before. I'd recommend these to anyone. A++
PolTec Inc 05-13-2004, 12:40 PM BUMP
PolTec Inc 05-15-2004, 08:52 PM ttt
Trip McNealy 05-16-2004, 12:16 AM Great product, I installed my spherical rear links today. Even came w/ new bolts and nylock nuts. I just had one question regarding the spherical links... After all was said and done with installing and torquing, the endlinks still have a bit of "play" on them. If I grab them, I can jiggle them back and forth and if i jiggle all the way to the left on the passenger side, the link clangs against the rear sway bar - the driver side moves a bit also but manages not to hit against the bar (BTW i installed a Helix 22mm adjustable bar also).. Is this normal?? :confused: I centered the links and took a drove around and checked again and they really didn't move so I am not too concerned they will hit the bar but there is always a possibility. Should I be worried for the long run? Or can I get away with tilting them away from the bar as you have said before? Thanks.
Nutter 05-18-2004, 10:08 AM I was thinking of getting some of these endlinks but I would also like an answer to the question below, has anyone else noticed this "feature" ?
Originally posted by Trip McNealy
Great product, I installed my spherical rear links today. Even came w/ new bolts and nylock nuts. I just had one question regarding the spherical links... After all was said and done with installing and torquing, the endlinks still have a bit of "play" on them. If I grab them, I can jiggle them back and forth and if i jiggle all the way to the left on the passenger side, the link clangs against the rear sway bar - the driver side moves a bit also but manages not to hit against the bar (BTW i installed a Helix 22mm adjustable bar also).. Is this normal?? :confused: I centered the links and took a drove around and checked again and they really didn't move so I am not too concerned they will hit the bar but there is always a possibility. Should I be worried for the long run? Or can I get away with tilting them away from the bar as you have said before? Thanks.
PolTec Inc 05-18-2004, 11:47 AM Nutter,
Here is the answer to the Tripp's question that I posted in the Suspension forum:
This type of movement is normal for our links (and I suspect that this is also a case for other brands). Simply adjust them so that they do not interfere with sway bar and you should be fine.
Others also mentioned that it is the same with other brands. This movement of the rear part of the end link that connect the two bearings does not affect the distance between bearings and as such has no negative effects on the performance of the end links aside from possible interference with the sway bar IF you move them in a wrong direction. Adjustem after installation and they should not move by themselves.
Thanks
Dariusz
Nutter 05-18-2004, 01:03 PM Thanks for the reply, I didnt look in the Suspension forum as the question was asked here. I will be calling you re: front and rear end links.
thanks again
John
Originally posted by PolTec Inc
Nutter,
Here is the answer to the Tripp's question that I posted in the Suspension forum:
Others also mentioned that it is the same with other brands. This movement of the rear part of the end link that connect the two bearings does not affect the distance between bearings and as such has no negative effects on the performance of the end links aside from possible interference with the sway bar IF you move them in a wrong direction. Adjustem after installation and they should not move by themselves.
Thanks
Dariusz
PolTec Inc 05-20-2004, 05:14 PM ttt
Sir_Xenon 05-20-2004, 08:01 PM Dariusz
Would your bearings provide a more, um, "indipendant", response form each strut compared to a bushing-type bearing? What I mean by this is that with a heavier sway bar the suspension is more "linked" together, causing less free motion from each corner as the sway bar affects both ends. This is why it's a good idea to disconnect your swaybar links if going off road.
This is the downside of having a big bar: the car is less planted on a very bumpy turn. But would these links provide any positive affects in this regard? Sorry for being long-winded.
Mark
PolTec Inc 05-20-2004, 08:59 PM Mark,
As compared with the end links with urethane/rubber bushings, our end links with spherical bearings will raise your sway bar's effective diameter, allow the sway bar to transfer more force to the other side and, as a result, make both sides LESS independent for a given sway bar diameter. That is because they do not absorb any of the sway bars movement and transfer it all to your suspension.
I hope that answers your question. If you would stilllike to discuss it, give me a call at the number below.
Dariusz
PolTec Inc
708/308-0947
P.S. Your order will shipp tomorrow.
PolTec Inc 05-24-2004, 12:19 PM bump
JohnW 05-25-2004, 01:30 PM Dariusz,
Thanks for sending the extra nuts/bolts! Great customer service.
John
DougM 05-25-2004, 02:58 PM Dariusz, just an FYI. the extra hardware supplied with the collars (longer/shorter hex bolts) were the wrong thread size. That and some of the hardware was SAE (Hex bolts) and some Metric. (personally, i don't own any SAE tools :mad: )
PolTec Inc 05-26-2004, 08:50 AM DougM,
I am not sure what happen about the hardware, but email me your name and I will shipp you new screws immidiatelly.
DougM 05-26-2004, 12:49 PM that's cool. no need though. I'm good. :)
Sir_Xenon 05-26-2004, 02:40 PM I installed the rear links with my WHiteline sway bars set to the middle position. It's TIGHT! I guess it's "preloaded" but what are my options? The original (wire) whiteline links are about 1/2" longer than the Poltecs.
Would the adjustable end links solve this? And what effect will that have on handling?
Thanks
Mark
PS I sent an email to Poltec regarding this this morning.
g0tb00st 05-28-2004, 01:30 PM PolTec Inc,
I just placed an order for your end links for my STi. Can't wait to get them because mine are bent!
-Erik Olivenza
PolTec Inc 06-01-2004, 12:16 AM Erik, your links will shipp on Tuesday.
edykh 06-01-2004, 02:19 AM where can i place an order?
PolTec Inc 06-01-2004, 08:44 AM Click HERE (http://poltec.us/Automotive/Automotive.htm)
thebusiness999 06-01-2004, 03:08 PM Just sent you payment for my replacement endlinks :)
TTT
PolTec Inc 06-03-2004, 08:24 PM bump
PolTec Inc 06-07-2004, 03:00 PM TTT
WRX04SLVR 06-18-2004, 03:56 PM Order placed for Sway bar links, Rear, Impreza & Legacy
Item 1A-DF002: Solid Rear Sway Bar Aluminum Links with Spherical Bearings
Thanks!
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