caterham 7 or Clone WRX DriveTrain:has anybody ever attmepted this dropping a wrx or sti drive train awd and all into a caterham or caterham clone ?Caterhams basicly have 1.4 to 1.8 Liters displacement .

I don't know how you would fit the front drivetrain stuff in...are they mid engine cars?...being the engine lies between the front and rear wheels.
Take it easy, micah

I see no way how it could work. THe engine is much wider than anything that I have seen in a caterham or birkin or anything else. (I have seen the rover 4 banger, Crazy cosworth motors, Ford Zetecs, and Honda S2000 powerplants. Also bike engines.) Even Then half the time on the caterhams the air filter is hanging out the side. Caterhams are narrower than most the clones so that limits it even more. Then the exhaust would also have to come out of the bottom as oppsed to the side, and those things are already stupid close to the ground. Although this probably is minor compared to the actual fitting the engine in the same space.

As far as AWD... The suby AWD will NOT work. The engine on the suby is ahead of the front axles. A caterham has the front wheels pretty much ahead of the engine. the geometry is just all off. adn the weight and complexity would ruin the car as far as im concerned (thats just my opinion though)

...round hole, square peg

Originally posted by Hawk296
...round hole, square peg
well put

You can use a subaru motor, but you need to make it a "fat boy" lotus 7 clone. forgot the exact extra width you need... but it makes the thing actualy sized for normal humans not stick figures from the UK.

Or you can make it closed wheel and normal 7 width and enjoy the better areodynamics too.....

Yeah the caterhams I cannot drive with my Nikes on. I have to take my shoes of when i drive them on the street cause my size 13 shoes are hitting all 3 pedals at once.

took about a 45 min trip to the track in one witha friend and back. That trip really wore me out totally cramped and the wind kills ya. But its sure fun on the track.

but think about it. regular caterham, the intake is poking out oneside, the exhuast header out the other, and thats with an inline 4. Its not something that can jsut drop in a kit.

Originally posted by bolounit
caterham 7 or Clone WRX DriveTrain:has anybody ever attmepted this dropping a wrx or sti drive train awd and all into a caterham or caterham clone ?Caterhams basicly have 1.4 to 1.8 Liters displacement .

1. it doesn't fit.
2. ur f_cking up the charachteristics of the car by adding an extra 500 pounds of tranny and piping to it.
3. if the ghost of Colin Chapman doesn't come to haunt to to death...
4. I will come and do the deed personally.

Friggin' noobs!:huh: :furious: :mad:

Originally posted by Boxologist
1. it doesn't fit.
2. ur f_cking up the charachteristics of the car by adding an extra 500 pounds of tranny and piping to it.
3. if the ghost of Colin Chapman doesn't come to haunt to to death...
4. I will come and do the deed personally.

Friggin' noobs!:huh: :furious: :mad:

LOL, I was trying to be alittle more polite about it, but its true.

the only plus side I could see would be a lower center of gravity, keep it RWD and then the body would still look off...with boxer engine buldges...more power would be nice though to go along with all that handling

You obviously havnt seen the turbo Hyabusa powered varients... That was the car that hung with a Mclaren F1 0-100. Plus you can do Honda CBR 1100 blackbird motors (turbo or non) they are smaller, lighter and rev to 11,000RPM :), and i personally have seen S2000 engines in the clones which already make more power than the WRX. the overall slight change in CG would probably not be all that great.

I have personally driven a cosworth dry sump 200+HP RHD 6 speed equipped ultralight. I just dont see a WRX powerplant being better. You wouldnt even save on the hood clearance once the intercooler is in place. I just feel there are much better options already out there.

I never said there weren't...I was just trying to see a plus side to the WRX or an STi engine...I would much rather have the S2000 engine in one...or a turbo rotary...and that turbo jyabusa sounds nasty:devil:

you have a point there, you never said there wasnt a better option, and youre statement was actaully more on topic than mine was.
Turbo rotary is a neat idea, that would be cool to see.

Originally posted by Hawk296
Turbo rotary is a neat idea, that would be cool to see.
they had one in SCC's ultimate street car competition in 2003 I think...

yeah figured somebody has done it. Ill have to see if i can find info on that. Being a former Rx-7 owner i'm kinda a nut for wankles.

yeah wenkel had a great idea

I am currently buiding a subaru donor locost.
1.The motor will not fit any type of standard 7 chassis, and I am doing a custom nose cone (wider) and chassis.
2. If you build it from the ground up with the suby engine in mind, then it can be quite balanced. People have already put iron v8s in. If anyone has ever driven one of these cars (this is my 2nd, the first is a r1 turbo) then you know the amount of wheelspin in a high powered, low weight rwd car.
3. Colin Chapman would appreciate anybody with ingenuity in today's bolt on world of auto "tuning"
4. A wrx drivetrain can easily do 350 hp. This setup in a 1600-1700 lb car with awd will haunt anyone.

Originally posted by Tigris
I am currently buiding a subaru donor locost.
1.The motor will not fit any type of standard 7 chassis, and I am doing a custom nose cone (wider) and chassis.
2. If you build it from the ground up with the suby engine in mind, then it can be quite balanced. People have already put iron v8s in. If anyone has ever driven one of these cars (this is my 2nd, the first is a r1 turbo) then you know the amount of wheelspin in a high powered, low weight rwd car.
3. Colin Chapman would appreciate anybody with ingenuity in today's bolt on world of auto "tuning"
4. A wrx drivetrain can easily do 350 hp. This setup in a 1600-1700 lb car with awd will haunt anyone.
he does have a point tough!!

u can spin wheels all day and an Echo will beat ya;) . touche on #3:)

and an ej20 can put out 350whp reliably. a subaru 5MT can't put down 300whp reliably.

personally, i'd still steer clear of anything other than an I4 or 5 block. if u were dropping the H4 in it, u may as well reshape the body for aerodynamics as well.

u got links to the v8 stuff. i wanna see some carbeurators sticking thru the hood!:devil: :banana:

You guys seen this:
1675 lbs total... EJ20. Drop my RA engine in that and let the fun begin.

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http://www.sakermotorsports.com/home.asp


Saker SVS GTA Specifications
Roll Frame: 8 point roll assembly 1.77 X .098 (wall thickness) DOM mild steel
Mid engine configuration: 60% rear 40% Front
Suspension: Front and rear double unequal wishbone (adjustable)/ Hypercoil springs / Adjustable Moton dampers
Body: Fiberglass / optional Carbon Fiber
Stock Engine Package: 250 Bhp Subaru 2 liter turbo / Optional powerplants available
Transaxle: Subaru WRX 5 Spd / Optional 5/6 Speed with straight cut gears and dog rings rated to 1000 HP
Brakes: Tar•Ox 6-pot / 320 mm vented discs / Steel braided lines
Weight: SVS GTA 1675 lbs
Wheels: Front 15X12; Rear 15X12 - 3 Piece Simmons racing wheels
Track: Front 67.5 "; Rear 70"
Wheel Base: 100.98"
Length: 159.449" (13.29')
Width: 72.05" (6.003')
Height: 40.16" (3.4")
Ride Height: 2" (adjustable)

That's cool, haven't run into that yet, 45k for that thing seems like a deal. My locost will be less than 10k (hopefully),but alot of labor into it.
boxologist, I'm shooting for 350 crank, and considering the light weight the tranny should stay happy. I'll search for some v8 links.

that is a cool car...that could easily be made into a road going car as well

Just bumping an old thread here, I am currently in the process of researching a locost 7 to build, but I want something different in terms of the typical powerplant. Currently on the table, a 1.6l TDI diesel, 2.0 wrx engine, or a 4G63 (huge problems forecast for all of these).

I am predicting quite a few headaches in my future...

lots of work for those three listed and all the weight of the turbostuff

how about a nice sohc 2.5 ej25 ~190hp