Hello Everyone,
We have now released the harness bar for the 2002-2004 wrx. Pictures will be up next week. Place your order with South Coast Subaru today! They are available in black powder coat right now. Other colors will follow. MSRP is $349.99. Order this week and get the introductory price of $275 plus tax. Limited supplies on hand.
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Thanks
Ferdie
714-689-2103 ext4013

can we see some pics?

AH this is a SUBI board you might want to take that to the toyota forum :rolleyes:

Originally posted by bikerboy
AH this is a SUBI board you might want to take that to the toyota forum :rolleyes:

Its for wrx but someone is playing an april fools joke on my thread.
Ferdie

So no pics?

What colors do you have have coming and will they also have the same introductory price of $275 plus tax?

Justin

Wow that's a great introductory price. I'm interested in how this compares to Speedware.

Originally posted by JMP781
What colors do you have have coming and will they also have the same introductory price of $275 plus tax?

Justin

Sorry for the delay in replying, was at International Auto Salon setting up.
There will also be silver and other colors are being tossed around; however, the introductory price is only good for the next two weeks.
Ferdie

Originally posted by Neaners
So no pics?

Pics will be up tomorrow. Needed a place to host the pic for me our website is still down.
Ferdie
714-689-2103ext4013

Originally posted by InfamousDX
Wow that's a great introductory price. I'm interested in how this compares to Speedware.
Very clean install no modification needed. Similar to speedware but not as intrusive.
Ferdie

Does the bar telescope, or have a similar approach which prevents the bar from acting as a structural element in addition to mounting a harness?

-- Gary

It has not been tested that it does add structural support; however, it would probably be obvious that it does. Its in my car now and it feels as if it helps.
Ferdie

Originally posted by ConeMasher
Does the bar telescope, or have a similar approach which prevents the bar from acting as a structural element in addition to mounting a harness?

-- Gary

would this have possible implications in SCCA/auto-X ?? I have seen the bar, it could probably be shown to add some structural support. It would be marginal.

As for a comparison to the other harness bars, it is less intrusive because the vertical supports are in the center rather than the sides, which helps preserve the space at the rear door opening.

Hey Ferdie, I want one in Hot Metallic Pink j/k :lol: (Just wanted to make John sweat a little:lol: )

Looking forward to getting mine. :) (as soon as I do I will post pics)

RR:D

Originally posted by South Coast Subaru
Pics will be up tomorrow. Needed a place to host the pic for me our website is still down.
Ferdie
714-689-2103ext4013

Ferdie, I have told you before that I would be more than happy to host whatever pics that yo need.... just let me know!

~ Janene

i'm interested. AND i can host a picture for you, let me know.

thanks guys , just got back from sema. Will send out pics soon,
Ferdie

Originally posted by South Coast Subaru
thanks guys , just got back from sema. Will send out pics soon,
Ferdie



must have been one helluva after party to roll in at 5am :eek: :D :lol:

hope those are the pictures you are going to post, heck I already know what the bar looks like :lol:



RR:banana:

im also interested, and yes, i want to see pics too. :D

Originally posted by Rapid_Roo
must have been one helluva after party to roll in at 5am :eek: :D :lol:

hope those are the pictures you are going to post, heck I already know what the bar looks like :lol:



RR:banana:

Yeah it was great two nights in a row of sema. Got to catch up on sleep.
Ferdie

Any chance of the same thing for the GC body style?

AJ

It only fits the GD body sorry.
Ferdie

Okay, so where are the pix...?

Especially close ups of the install mounting points!

gr.

Nice pics Ferdie, how is the vidcam mount?

RR:D

Any accomodation for a more rearward mounting? From your pix, the bar mounts about 2 inches too far forward for where I need my seat to be positioned.

gr.

I think these are pictures of a prototype. I saw a later version at the Rally Innovations shop, and it had a longer connector. I too had voiced concerns about the seat travel because my co-driver is 6'2" and needs to move as far back as possible.

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Originally posted by Rapid_Roo
Nice pics Ferdie, how is the vidcam mount?

RR:D
Its great for the trck to recap on the course.
Ferdie

Originally posted by gregr01
Any accomodation for a more rearward mounting? From your pix, the bar mounts about 2 inches too far forward for where I need my seat to be positioned.

gr.

The actual production bar extends almost 3" further than the one shown. We will try to post up more pics this week.

Thanks,

John P.
Rally Innovations

Originally posted by GC8-40
The actual production bar extends almost 3" further than the one shown. We will try to post up more pics this week.

Thanks,

John P.
Rally Innovations

Please do, I'm really interested in this. But I'm a fairly big guy and I can only consider it if it truly extends back another 3" compared to the one pictured. John, please post any pictures that you might have of the production model installed. Thanks!

Craig

How quickly can this bar be taken out or put back in? I would only want to use it on track days and then take it out for street use. I wouldn't want someone in the back seat banging their head on the bar during a quick stop. :)

Originally posted by South Coast Subaru
It only fits the GD body sorry.
Ferdie

so will this fit in an '04 STi?

Originally posted by Thumper23
so will this fit in an '04 STi?

It looks like an STi in the pics he put in the first post. :)

how strong are these? i have read from a few other venders who offer them that they arent that strong, and that the harness still needs to be anchered into the rear seat's seatbelt.

what are these bars made of?

Originally posted by Egan
How quickly can this bar be taken out or put back in? I would only want to use it on track days and then take it out for street use. I wouldn't want someone in the back seat banging their head on the bar during a quick stop. :)


It takes about a total of 20 minutes to take it off once you know which bolts to take out. There is a total of 4 bolts to remove to separate it from the cabin.
Ferdie

Originally posted by Thumper23
so will this fit in an '04 STi?

It will fit an STI and the harness bars that are for sale are actually 3" farther back.
Ferdie

any plans for a polished version? price?

Originally posted by South Coast Subaru
It takes about a total of 20 minutes to take it off once you know which bolts to take out. There is a total of 4 bolts to remove to separate it from the cabin.
Ferdie

From the pics it looks like 1 bolt on each of the inboard rear seat bolts. Where are the other two? Does it also bolt into the B pillar for added chassis rigidity (like the Speedware unit - which BTW is no longer being made in SS). I'm guessing at the seatbelt attachment point?

Are you also going to be selling the camera mounts and/or fire extinguisher mounts?

Originally posted by Egan
From the pics it looks like 1 bolt on each of the inboard rear seat bolts. Where are the other two? Does it also bolt into the B pillar for added chassis rigidity (like the Speedware unit - which BTW is no longer being made in SS). I'm guessing at the seatbelt attachment point?

Are you also going to be selling the camera mounts and/or fire extinguisher mounts?

Yes it bolts on to the rear seat rails and the seatbelt points. That is the four major bolts that connects the bar to the cabin. If you look on the side where the seatbelt can be adjusted there is a bolt behind that cover.
Ferdie

Originally posted by V REX
any plans for a polished version? price?

Other colors will follow. We will have a polished powdercoat and black chrome powdercoat as well. MSRP on these units will be $379.99. Please ask vendor for actual pricing.

Thank you,

John P.
Rally Innovations

Originally posted by atomicapples
how strong are these? i have read from a few other venders who offer them that they arent that strong, and that the harness still needs to be anchered into the rear seat's seatbelt.

what are these bars made of?

When properly installed, these harness bars add some rigidity to the cabin, but are not intended for extreme racing. You would need a cage for that. As for mounting the harnesses on the bar, if properly mounted, provides the necessary angle that harnesses should rest on. Mounting the harnesses to the rear seat belt location does not allow the harnesses to be mounted at an optimum angle. The bar is intended for Autocross, Rallycross or any other sanctioned races that do not need a roll cage. The bar is not intended for street use as well as harnesses.

Hope this helps,

John P.
Rally Innovations

Originally posted by Egan
From the pics it looks like 1 bolt on each of the inboard rear seat bolts. Where are the other two? Does it also bolt into the B pillar for added chassis rigidity (like the Speedware unit - which BTW is no longer being made in SS). I'm guessing at the seatbelt attachment point?

Are you also going to be selling the camera mounts and/or fire extinguisher mounts?

Fire extingusher and camera mounts are up & coming. Also, you can order a custom integrated camera, extinguisher or intercom mount at request.

Thanks,

John P.
Rally Innovations

One more question that I didn't see answered before: what are the bars made of?

Originally posted by Egan
One more question that I didn't see answered before: what are the bars made of?
DOM same material that is used for the rollcages.
Ferdie

You said it extends 3" further back now, would that make it extend about as far back as the Speedware bar then? Has anyone ordered & tried these out yet? Very tempting at that price. =)

Originally posted by srf
You said it extends 3" further back now, would that make it extend about as far back as the Speedware bar then? Has anyone ordered & tried these out yet? Very tempting at that price. =)

I'm not sure how far the Speedware bar allows you to recline or adjust the seats back, but you can sit quite comfortably in them if you are 6'3" and under. One major advantage over the Speedware bar is that it doesn't block any leg room getting in & out of the rear doors. I know Rapid Roo has one. PM him for his comments.

Thanks,

John P.
Rally Innovations

Well I ordered one, we'll see how it goes. Too bad I'll probably be out of town until the 27th.

The bar goes back pretty far. I am 5'7" and I drive with my arms out and legs extended almost all the way. I found it very comfortable and it didn't comprimise my sitting position one bit. The passenger side is up to your passenger, if they want to recline more they may have to move the seat closer and sacrifice a little leg room. On a surprise plus. the bar gives a little bit more body rigidity, a lot of the squeeks and rattles I normally had in the car went away. :)

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RR:D

m 6'4 would the bar be too low for me?

I'm 5'7" and my seat is hard up against the bar,and it is not reclined very much at all.I doubt you would fit in my car at all.

atomicapples- it looks like you can adjust the bar up & down a few inches?

Originally posted by atomicapples
m 6'4 would the bar be too low for me?

without a helmet on, maybe. You would have to sit very perpendicular to the seat, to get the seat far enough away for your legs. If you sit close to the pedals, you would have more leeway to recline. Its all a matter of how you sit. I know somone one who is 6'2" and sits as close to the pedals as I do (during daily driving). I sit a lot closer to the pedals and steering wheel for Auto-X and for canyon running.


Originally posted by srf
atomicapples- it looks like you can adjust the bar up & down a few inches?

No you can't. the support bar precludes that.

How many of the GC guys have 2 door and How many has 4 door?
Ferdie

Is this still available for 275? Thanks Brian

Originally posted by South Coast Subaru
How many of the GC guys have 2 door and How many has 4 door?
Ferdie

the majority are 4 doors but you'd have to check the production numbers.

Originally posted by thahaminator
Is this still available for 275? Thanks Brian
THis is the last week. We are going to increase prices tto 325 once we are out of bars. Our second production will be 325.
Ferdie

our first blue bar looks really good.
Ferdie

Originally posted by DougM
the majority are 4 doors but you'd have to check the production numbers.

the RS's production was mostly as coupes over its 4 years. as for the L's, most members here would probably be a coupe. a few sedans, but coupes would have been the choice as the 'sportier' car.

Originally posted by South Coast Subaru
our first blue bar looks really good.
Ferdie
;) Good to know that:rolleyes: can't wait to see it....
got a pic?? if not i'll have to wait untill june to see it:( :lol:
Thanxs. Steve.;)

Originally posted by South Coast Subaru
our first blue bar looks really good.
Ferdie

how much are the blue bars gonna cost or is it still $275?

and can someone point me in the right direction for a harness

For a harness you can get the sparcos 4 point. Its 95.00$.

As far as a blue harness bar it 340.00 $. That price includes free shipping.
Ferdie
714-689-2103 ext 4013

I'll take 1 in Black and 2 sparco 4 points.
How can I order? Just by phone?

You can order by phone or you can paypal me the money to ferdie@southcoastsubaru.com. There is a additional charge through paypal.
Thanks
Ferdie
714-689-2103 ext 4013

So what are the shorter bolts for (~1 inch of thread)? I'm missing something obvious that's preventing installation...

The shorter one is for the seatbelt. You got to pop off the cover and replace the bolt with the shorter one.
Ferdie

So you toss the stock metal bushing and have the new bushing, harness bar, and seat belt squished together with the short bolt? If what I'm picturing is correct, I'm buying my own bolts & washers so the stock shoulder seat belt thing can rotate and retain the plastic cover...

Originally posted by srf
So you toss the stock metal bushing and have the new bushing, harness bar, and seat belt squished together with the short bolt? If what I'm picturing is correct, I'm buying my own bolts & washers so the stock shoulder seat belt thing can rotate and retain the plastic cover...
So you are trying to retain the stock seat belts. If that is so then you must get a longer bolt. The shorter bolt are equipped, for set up that are not keeping the stock setup. Rally innovations.com has more info and pics.
Ferdie

Thanks, that would explain why things won't fit correctly. =)

Is there a market for a harness bar that doesn't work with stock seatbelts? I mean, if someone is serious enough ditch stock seatbelts won't they have a roll bar that the harness bar bolts/welds to? How many people want to install the harness bar every time they go to the track?