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View Full Version : 04 STi and 04 WRX spring from Espelir, GT spring and ASD Spring. 02+ Also!!
WorldOne 04-02-2004, 08:08 AM Hi there all..
I would like to begin by letting you all know that world one now has two brand new multi-extention phone lines to serve all of your inquiries. Our new Retail line is 206.938.7975 and our new wholesale line is 206.938.7974 These new lines will make it quicker and easier to communicate with us. Please keep in mind that the second line is for wholesale inquiries only. Finally line 206.331.2004 which has been our number for quite some time, will be operational for a few more weeks before it is permanently shut off. To recap:
Retail 206.938.7975
Wholesale: 206.938.7974
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Many of you are now familiar with the ESPELIR name since we brought you the Espelir Cat back video for the WRX/STi:
http://user937480.sf1000.registeredsite.com/media/products/wrx/exhaust/jgt500_alphastage2.avi
What you may not have known is that Espelir is also a premier suspension company in Japan that has enjoy sucess in the JGTCC for many years. Here is some info on espelir...
In accepting the challenge to develop superior suspension springs that meet governmental minimum ride height requirements while at the same time enhancing the need for road hugging good looks, ESPELIR proudly introduces LOW FORM.
LOW FORM continues the legacy of durability, refined road responsiveness, and superior technology that driving enthusiasts expect from the company that defines "Unrivaled Automotive Suspension Engineering."
Our advanced methods and experience with vehicle lowering enable us to keep a 90mm ground clearance. Our suspension give a comfortable and most importantly a stable ride.
Keep proper stroke during compression.
Less fatigue.
No loose spacing between the spring end and spring perch.
Our products utilize SAE9254 and new material SAE9254MHT (Vanadium mixed material) under strict quality control during all aspects of manufacturing - during heating of material, cooling, and winding to ensure proper stroke volume and spring lightness.
By combining high powered technology of manufacturing and real world testing on the street and track, we can produce the best suspension setting for each specific car make.
For surface coating methods, we use 3 steps of shot peening to ensure super durability of the spring. Of course, epoxy resin power coating is the finish of choice.
We have many of the 04 and 02+ ASD or active Super down spring in stock. Here are some images of this spring on an 04 STI...
http://worldoneperformance.com/images/DSCN2033.JPG
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The lowering on this spring is 35mm up front and 40mm in the rear. The ASD has a mild spring rate and is intended to ensure comfort and style with a good amount of increased performance.
20 sets in stock: 260.00 free shipping and the first 5 who order or contact us VIA email or phone will get a special intro price.
The GT spring is more performance oriented. It gives the car a more agressive stance by lowering the rear 40mm and the front only 30mm. The GT spring has a rate which is about 40% greater than the ASD. This spring is perfectly suited for track or auto cross on an STI or WRX.
Here is espelirs info on the GT spring:
To satisfy the performance driver that wants to extract the best performance out of his vehicle we have developed the ACTIVE GT. This spring empowers a higher spring rate than the ACTIVE SUPER DOWN and has a 30% higher grade stroke volume.
20 sets in stock: 260.00 free shipping and the first 5 who order or contact us VIA email or phone will get a special intro price.
Right now we are moving some insane suspension combos. Ask about combining your espelir springs with a perrin rear sway bar or end links and you will not be sorry.
These new springs will not last long and I have personally track tested them on an STI. I can tell you that the GT spring means business. Get your espelir springs from this shipment before they are gone and there is no more till JUN.
If you are a dealer and would like to sell Espelir springs contact us immediately on our wholesale line. We have fantasic wholesale pricing to offer on this hot new spring.
Thanks all!
Trev
World One
info@worldoneperformance.com
rodon 04-02-2004, 08:49 AM Dude, turn off that annoying music on your web site!
STINV 04-02-2004, 08:56 AM you have an e-mail!
-Lanny
STINV 04-02-2004, 08:56 AM Originally posted by rodon
Dude, turn off that annoying music on your web site!
you can hit the stop button
shk_1010 04-02-2004, 08:58 AM emailed you
WorldOne 04-02-2004, 09:01 AM All sounds on the website can be completely turned off through the stop button on the music player and the audio visual buttons at the top of the site.
Our track player has more than 10 tracks loaded for your listening enjoyment. His the FF button to browse tracks!
Cheers,
W1
Keep the emails coming!
Trevor
STINV 04-02-2004, 10:04 AM hey, on the website, it says the rear is 20mm drop not 40mm. which is it? thanks.
calworld 04-02-2004, 11:38 AM Originally posted by STINV
hey, on the website, it says the rear is 20mm drop not 40mm. which is it? thanks.
Yeah, I think it's 20mm drop
WorldOne 04-02-2004, 01:17 PM You are correct, it is a 20mm drop. 4 and 2 look amazingly similar at 0 dark 30! Thanks for correcting that!
Please call or email if you have any questions!
ryu12341 04-02-2004, 03:16 PM do you guys know the f/r spring rates on the active gt? how do they compare to 04 sti pinks? i was really eyeing the pinks, but if these are stiffer and quality is better, than i would rather get a set of these springs.
wrxited 04-02-2004, 08:30 PM The music on the website is cool. I got a 2004 WRX will this springs fit? How low will it drop my car, in inches please.
WorldOne 04-03-2004, 12:17 AM Originally posted by ryu12341
do you guys know the f/r spring rates on the active gt? how do they compare to 04 sti pinks? i was really eyeing the pinks, but if these are stiffer and quality is better, than i would rather get a set of these springs.
Although I do not have access to the spring rates on the GT, I can tell from experience that the GT spring is definately a bit stiffer and more performance oriented then the STI pink spring. The drop on the STI pink is not as agressive and handling is substantially improved with the GT for this reason alone.
THe ASD spring is a far better comparison to the pink STI springs, however the GT spring is definately better suited towards track work or competitive driving.
20mm is 1.00
30mm is 1.18
35mm is 1.3 inches.
40mm 1.5 inches
The springs work great on a 2004 WRX, whether you go with the GT or the ASD.
THanks again for posting.
Trev
World One
02WRX_BLUE 04-04-2004, 12:35 AM THe ASD spring is a far better comparison to the pink STI springs
Really? In comfort ride like stock you mean? or track performance?
STIBungy 04-06-2004, 01:08 AM Your website is very difficult to navigate. I was trying to find more info on the springs but couldnt. I guess I could look elsewhere.
HectorWRX 04-11-2004, 03:20 AM how it going well i want to get a pair of these spring plZ let me KNOW aguirrehector2004@YAHOO.COM
omega300m 04-11-2004, 10:13 PM [B]quite an amazing vehicle, great choice with the black on black..very sleek. A deep black window tint would really bring that car to life! Do you have any more pics?
titsataki 04-13-2004, 12:02 PM Did you powdercoat the stock BBS rims?
Looks good.
Nick
WorldOne 04-13-2004, 01:54 PM Sorry about the delay guys....
Just returned from LA and the primedia time attack event. I will do all that I can to answer all of your questions immediately.
Originally posted by 02WRX_BLUE
Really? In comfort ride like stock you mean? or track performance?
The STI spring is our opionion is a better choice for the STI because the STI spring is a very mild upgrade. We feel that even the ASD spring is a larger upgrade in terms of drop, and performance. Not to mention they are about half the price. These springs are the new standard spring here at world one and are replacing the eibach prokit on our shelves. We would not use this spring as our staple, unless we were sure it was great.
Originally posted by STIBungy
Your website is very difficult to navigate. I was trying to find more info on the springs but couldnt. I guess I could look elsewhere.
STi these springs are not up on the website yet but will be by the end of the day. The nav on our site has a tad bit of a learning curve, but once you become familiar with it, its pretty easy. Feel free to contact us if you would like more info on it.
Originally posted by HectorWRX
how it going well i want to get a pair of these spring plZ let me KNOW aguirrehector2004@YAHOO.COM
Hector, I will email you as soon as I finish this post.
Originally posted by omega300m
[B]quite an amazing vehicle, great choice with the black on black..very sleek. A deep black window tint would really bring that car to life! Do you have any more pics?
We agree the car looks great, however it is not owned by anyone at world one, the car belongs to a customer of mackin industries in the LA area. The car does have powdercoated stock BBS rims and yes, black on black looks great. This car has only two appearance mods and already it looks great.
Thanks all and please let us know if you have any more questions.
Cheers,
WorldOne 04-14-2004, 08:34 AM More than 30 set of ESPELIR springs left in the building and I am going to extend the promo pricing to 5 more people. These have a money back gaurantee whether you go with the ASD or the GT. Has any spring been offered by a vendor with a money back gaurantee, if you are looking for a spring for your STI or WRX, this is it!
04 Springs finally in and ready to go. Espelir is going to be the new name in Subaru Springs. BTW, these are now on the World One Site!!
BritSti 04-14-2004, 09:52 PM ---edited my crap spelling----
Just ordered a set of the ASD springs for my STi, great price for a great product.
One question, are hardened strut tops recommmended or is it worth installing the springs without, and seeing what it feels like??
Thx.
S
Downfall 04-14-2004, 10:05 PM I just got mine today! can't wait to get hem on, but Trev you guys didn't hook me up with any world one decals.;)
WorldOne 04-14-2004, 10:23 PM Originally posted by BritSti
Just ordered a set of the ASD springs from STi, great price for a great prodcut.
One question, are hardened strut tops recommmended or is it worth installing the springs without, and seeing what it feels like??
Thx.
S
Hardened strut tops are by no means required. They will of course add to your rigidity a bit, however in our opinion there are other ways to increase rigidity that are more effective. After installing the springs let us know what handling quality you would like to decrease or increase and we will do all that we can to steer you into a part that will help you accomplish your suspension goals.
Thanks again for the order and let me know if there is anything else that we can do for you. we will always do all that we can to take care of all of your needs.
Still some great promo pricing left.
Alex
bcblues 04-14-2004, 11:18 PM Do you know the spring rates? And is your comparison to the "STi springs" a comparison to the 04 STi Pinks (257/217)?
ryu12341 04-16-2004, 10:56 AM Originally posted by WorldOne
Although I do not have access to the spring rates on the GT, I can tell from experience that the GT spring is definately a bit stiffer and more performance oriented then the STI pink spring. The drop on the STI pink is not as agressive and handling is substantially improved with the GT for this reason alone.
THe ASD spring is a far better comparison to the pink STI springs, however the GT spring is definately better suited towards track work or competitive driving.
20mm is 1.00
30mm is 1.18
35mm is 1.3 inches.
40mm 1.5 inches
The springs work great on a 2004 WRX, whether you go with the GT or the ASD.
THanks again for posting.
Trev
World One
sup guys!!! my springs just arrived at my house last week, but there is a problem. i ordered the gt spring and got the asd. is there anyway we can fix this? i plan on going down to lynnwood, wa. this weekend, i was hoping we could meet up somewhere and do a swap. let me know because i really wanted the gt spring and i specifically told the person on the phone that i wanted the gt spring. i hope this can get resolved quickly, thanks!!!
ryu12341 04-17-2004, 11:17 PM edit: talked with trevor over the phone and got this situation all straightened out. great customer service from worldone. i'll be shopping there soon for my do-luck subframe. thanks a lot guys!!!
cm1wrx 04-21-2004, 01:03 PM If anyone has any questions regarding installation or ride quality on an 03 sedan I would be glad to answer them. I have one of the first sets of the asd springs and I am extremely pleased with them. Ride quality feels much more firm than stock, meaning the car feels more responsive without being jolting or bumpy. Even large bumps are not nearly as bad as I expected them to be. Cornering has improved tremendously as compared to the stock springs (my suspension is nearly stock, I have 18in rota battles with kumho tires and nothing else). But most importantly, then car has a much cleaner look as compared to the "rally car" apperance of a stock wrx. Wheel well gaps are exactly as I wanted them (I will post pictures as soon as I can). The vehicle looks lower but not "lowered" if that makes any sense? It drops down a little more in the front than in the back but it's not real noticeable. All and all I am very happy with the product. Worldone was excellent to deal with. I got my springs two days after I ordered them. Everyone I delt with was very friendly and knowledgeable and I would definately recomend them to anyone looking to have a good buying experience!
Chris
WorldOne 04-22-2004, 03:21 AM Chris...
wow, that was a great review, we are truly greatful, I am glad that you are enjoying your springs. We can still let a few sets at promo pricing. Email to find out how low we go!
Thanks!
cm1wrx 04-22-2004, 02:39 PM Always happy to promote a vendor that provides such excellent service. As I said, if anyone has any questions I would be glad to help. I should have before and after pics posted this weekend. Thanks again
chris
BritSti 04-23-2004, 02:01 PM Just installed the ASD springs on my 04 STi. The install took me a while as first timer, but nothing a competent person with the right tools can't do.
Anyways, the 1 inch drop looks great, not too "slammed" but more noticeable than the STi Pink springs. The spring rate feels a little stiffer, but helps take care of some of "jounce" or bumpy feeling you can get on the highway with a stock STi. The ASD springs are a great compromise for lowering the car without getting real aggressive with the spring rates.
As a side note, they match WRB paint : )
WorldOne, great service and great product.
Will get some pics up soon.
Simon
bcblues 04-24-2004, 10:40 AM So, BritSti, do you have the Pinks that you took off?
bcblues 04-24-2004, 11:14 AM Trev, is it possible to put the GT spec springs on the rack and get the rates? I am desperate for some suspension for the upcoming (soon) AX season, and the Pinks (for the 04 STi) are my preference at the moment. I would really like it if Prodrive would release their USDM Sti springs, but that looks unlikely any time soon. So what I am looking for are some springs that are comparable to the Pinks, and the GT spec springs look promising. I just don't want to get em and have them not what I expect.....
Also, just to confirm, the drop listed on your web page (30f/20r) is on a WRX, not the STi, correct? That would mean that there is like no drop rear and perhaps a half inch drop front on the STi?
BritSti 04-25-2004, 06:03 PM BCBlues,
Don't have any Pinks I took off, I was comparing to a friend who has an 04 STi with pinks.
I would say the drop is about 1/2 inch plus up front and not much at all on the rear, tire/fender gap goes from a fist to two fingers.
A nice look overall, see pic below...
http://nomisco.com/sti/04STi003.jpg
http://nomisco.com/sti/04STi004.jpg
Originally posted by bcblues
So, BritSti, do you have the Pinks that you took off?
WorldOne 04-26-2004, 05:31 AM Originally posted by bcblues
Trev, is it possible to put the GT spec springs on the rack and get the rates? I am desperate for some suspension for the upcoming (soon) AX season, and the Pinks (for the 04 STi) are my preference at the moment. I would really like it if Prodrive would release their USDM Sti springs, but that looks unlikely any time soon. So what I am looking for are some springs that are comparable to the Pinks, and the GT spec springs look promising. I just don't want to get em and have them not what I expect.....
Also, just to confirm, the drop listed on your web page (30f/20r) is on a WRX, not the STi, correct? That would mean that there is like no drop rear and perhaps a half inch drop front on the STi?
I will do what I can to get the rates for you, but I am not sure how fruitful this quest will be.
The drop of the GT is 30mm in the front and 20mm in the rear and the drop of the ASD is 35mm in the front and 20mm in the rear. The GT spring really should have a bit stiffer rate than the stocker or the pinks. They are intended to be a spring that holds up well for track work. I have not had the GT spring in the car on the track, but I have tracked with ASD. For a spring that is mainly concerned with comfort and look, the ASD sure holds its own on the track. Body roll was significantly reduced and handling competane greatly incraesed.
I think that the GT spring is comperable to the pink in drop in that the espelirs as a whole are a mild drop spring, but the GT spring really should be a lot more performance oriented than the pink. I am going to put the GTs on a customers STI this weekend and then go flogging around the track. My expectations are that it will be even more impressive than the ASD, and at these prices, that is really saying something.
Thanks for the interest guys. We really feel that we just need to get these springs into the hands of some key individuals and they will really do well. I have no doubt that this can be one of the most popular springs for these cars.
Thanks again,
W1
Downfall 04-26-2004, 10:07 AM I just got my ASDs installed with the help of a couple of friends, intall went quick with out any problems. The ride is very comfortable and similar to stock. The car looks great, the springs give the perfect drop in my opinion, the car is low with an agressive look, no more wheel gap, and I don't have to crawl over speed bumps, I can go over them like I was stock. Great product, if you're tired of waiting for 04 prodrives, go buy a set these.
WorldOne 04-26-2004, 01:56 PM Downfall..
Thank you for the great review. We concur with your results. We are still trying to get some sets of ASDs and GTs into the hands of some people who are going to take the time to write us a review. Give us a call to find out how good it gets!
Cheers,
W1
bcblues 04-26-2004, 11:48 PM Do you have camber bolts and group n top mounts in stock for an 04 STi? To go along with the GT springs? PM me a price shipped to 58554. I will install and give you a review, and even have my shop put em on a rack for rates.
impr25rs 04-27-2004, 08:01 PM I like your springs from word of mouth, but I was wondering if there is a strut that won't be worn out quick that you recommend that will work with the springs? Thanks :)
bcblues 04-29-2004, 03:29 PM Waiting....
rare_impression 05-01-2004, 08:59 AM Hey w1, have you had a chance to see how harsh the gt's are on the road?
Gruven 05-02-2004, 03:17 PM Those who have them installed, post some pics. I wanna see how it looks on the WRX.
edykh 05-03-2004, 05:35 PM I email you. Is the the GT's is lower than the ASD? And how is the ride for the GT. Please post more pic and review.
calworld 05-03-2004, 08:34 PM GT is not lower than ASD
30mm vs 35mm
GT ride is firm but not harsh
rare_impression 05-03-2004, 09:04 PM calworld are you speaking from experience or just word of mouth
Gspot 05-03-2004, 11:45 PM Are the springs quiet? The coils dont smack together and make noise? Do they come with the nice rubber linings on the coils that may hit?
Downfall 05-04-2004, 10:15 PM Here you go, these are ASDs.
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/Downfall-WRX005.jpg
edykh 05-05-2004, 03:56 AM I would like to know the spring for WRX and STI is the same?
CloNeGTS 05-05-2004, 06:52 PM Originally posted by WorldOne
The GT spring is more performance oriented. It gives the car a more agressive stance by lowering the rear 40mm and the front only 30mm. The GT spring has a rate which is about 40% greater than the ASD. This spring is perfectly suited for track or auto cross on an STI or WRX.
I'm curious where the 40% number came from. If the spring rates for the ASD and GT aren't known, how was that calculated?
http://www.mackinindustries.com/pdf/coilsprings.pdf
Mackin Industries has this application chart on it's website. Do you know...are these numbers accurare for the WRX parts? If so, it's really only an 11-17% increase in rate from the ASDs to the GTs. Did your statement really mean 40% increase from stock to the GT?
Also curious if the GT is 'too much spring' for the stock shocks to handle. I don't suppose anyone has had these springs on long enough to know if the shocks wear prematurely and begin to experience high frequency oscillations in the suspension.
Gruven 05-05-2004, 07:50 PM Is the GT spring even available for the 02/03 series? Every other online shop I check only has the ASD spring available for the 02/03...
just wondering..
CloNeGTS 05-05-2004, 08:20 PM That jives with the app chart on Mackinin's site....it shows only the ASDs for 02-03. Also shows the rates for the ASD changing a good deal from the 02/03 and 04 units.
calworld 05-06-2004, 09:38 AM Originally posted by rare_impression
calworld are you speaking from experience or just word of mouth
I am speaking from experience
ami2fst4u 05-07-2004, 06:32 PM A friendly bump, for one of the best in the business :disco: :banana:.
Rick
Gruven 05-08-2004, 04:18 PM Originally posted by Gruven
Is the GT spring even available for the 02/03 series? Every other online shop I check only has the ASD spring available for the 02/03...
just wondering..
..still wondering?
edykh 05-09-2004, 02:00 AM Can you guys post more pic please, anyone try the GT already, how is it?thanks
WorldOne 06-09-2004, 05:37 PM Is the GT spring even available for the 02/03 series? Every other online shop I check only has the ASD spring available for the 02/03...
Gruven the GT Springs are not available for the 02/03.
WorldOne 06-09-2004, 05:58 PM Alright, I just got done unloading 15 more sets of these springs. I am going to be offering the same deal as I did for the last shipment.
$260.00 free shipping and the first 5 who order or contact us VIA email or phone will get a special intro price.
Kevin
WorldOne
info@worldoneperformance.com
Stang2WRX 06-09-2004, 10:01 PM Bump...
Help World one make room for cobra parts!! :alien:
salaki 06-22-2004, 01:46 PM Does the GT have the progressive design?
Any pics of GT or ASD springs for '04 STi apps?
Integra96 06-24-2004, 02:24 AM Spring rates are now on Espelir's site (sorry if someone already said that earlier in this thread)
Numbers are approximate and in lb./in. (converted from kg/mm)
GT- 280 front, 230 rear
ASD - 252 front, 197 rear
For a WRX wagon, does anyone think the GT will be way too much spring for the stock shocks? How about the ASD? I just don't want a teeth-rattling ride and tear apart my stock shocks.
:)
salaki 07-04-2004, 10:02 PM Originally posted by salaki
Does the GT have the progressive design?
WorldOne,
Please response.
I ruled out pinks over GF210 before.
Having GF210 on my STi (very similar to pinks) and not too happy w/ progressive feeling. It's just me some might like it better.
I like my OEM STi feeling better and easier to predict compare to my current GF210.
If you want my business for giving a try the GT then please answer before Imade up my mind on STi pinks :furious:
As for others..
Please advice on springs who have similar design as pinks (or even slighly harder) WITHOUT progressive design.
Thanks.. :D
whoobaru 07-10-2004, 01:22 PM Originally posted by WorldOne
20mm is 1.00
30mm is 1.18
35mm is 1.3 inches.
40mm 1.5 inches
Some of the math is a little off.
1" = 25.4mm
20mm = .79"
35mm = 1.38"
40mm = 1.57"
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