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hirevn
05-11-2004, 03:27 AM
saw a kit that uses no2 or c02 to spray the intercooler from nitrous express,what do you guys think?on the sti with the watersprayer might help in hi temps but we dont get those to much up here but nos is way cold,what kind of boost of hp on a dragstrip or wot run?wonder if its worth it.atleast there would be no damage or stress to the engine.:D

JordyB
05-11-2004, 04:14 AM
Seeing as colder air is always better at the drags or WOT this cannot hurt, as for proven numbers for people who have this installed, I cannot say as I do not know anyone with this mounted and working on their cars...their adds claim up to 50 HP - which was dyno'd using a honda of some sorts...other applications will vairy.

I'm thinking of getting one for my front mount but im not seeing alot of heat-soaking issues as of yet. Top-mounts are much differnet tho so id say if you have the cash to throw around, why not and report your findings. (O:

WRXnFX
05-11-2004, 04:24 AM
I think Nitrous Express sells a kit and I've seen a few pics of WRX's with them. Try the search and I'm sure you'll find some people with them. Why not use the nitrous to cool the I/C and to boost your HP?

I'd use which ever was cheaper to fill. I would have to guess CO2 would be cheaper than NO2.

Winslow

hirevn
05-11-2004, 09:26 AM
yes im sure c02 would be much cheaper and should be able to get a fill from wherever those paintball guys get there tanks filled.just not sure what gas is coolder though.

JordyB
05-11-2004, 09:43 AM
A good read on CO2

There are two main power sources used to propel a paintball out of a
paintball gun - Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and Nitrogen/High Pressure Air
(N2/HPA). Both are very common and each has its pros and cons.

Carbon Dioxide, more commonly know as CO2, is the most commonly used
propellant due mainly to the fact it is fairly inexpensive and has been
around since the beginning of the sport. Its main disadvantage is its
sensitivity to temperature. As a CO2 tank warms up or cools down the
available pressure either rises or falls. For a paint gun, differences
in pressure mean inconsistent velocities.

This sensitivity to temperature is due to the fact that CO2 is stored as
a liquid. The gaseous form of CO2 used by the paint gun is formed when
some it "boils off". The tank containing the gas is a fixed volume.
Since there is a direct relationship between temperature and pressure,
an increase in temperature causes a corresponding increase in pressure:
The pressure increases because no more liquid can turn into a gas and a
higher velocity results.

CO2 can also enter the gun in its liquid state under certain conditions
like sustained rapid firing. On some guns, the sub-zero temperature of
the liquid CO2 causes O-rings and air seals to freeze which disrupts
normal operation. Equipment such as expansion chambers, anti-siphon
tanks, and remotes help negate this effect.

Nitrogen and High Pressure Air systems, commonly called Nitro and HPA,
are the most prevalent alternatives to CO2. While any inert gas (like
Argon) will work, Nitrogen and HPA are the cheapest and most readily
available. Since Nitrogen and HPA are stored in their natural gaseous
state and not liquid, they are not susceptible to the thermal problems
described above. A Nitrogen/HPA equipped paintball gun will perform
consistently regardless of temperature and weather conditions.
Nitrogen/HPA has almost completely eliminated velocity fluctuations. The
only drawback is that Nitrogen systems costs more and some fields do not
have the capability to refill the tanks.

shortfuseWRX
05-11-2004, 08:52 PM
i think if going with either gas will be expensive. you might aswell spray a shot and then purge a shot on the intercooler.


sam


or if you want to run cooler in gerneral, go with a water sprayer. this will give you lower egt's.