I have run many low 11 sec runs, bet had to let off. Stock trans 4th gear ends @ around 125mph. Yes, I broke the trans, a long time ago. I now have an MRT dogbox. I got dogset "D" which ends @ only 120 in fourth. I ordered a different 4th gear but it was too high, From dogset "E". Brett Middleton is almost finished making me a 1.00 ratio fourth gear (22tooth/22tooth) It will allow me to go about 133mph@ about 10.80+/- . I am putting a STi rear end in now for a stronger rear diff. STi axles modifyied by "the driveshaft shop" to be O.K. for 800hp. Also a one piece, custom driveshaft. The flange is different on STi rear(larger). The legnth of a stock STi driveshaft will not fit because the six speed trans is longer(so, shaft is too short). I have removed everything from car not related to drag racing. I am hoping that my extreme weight reduction, high boost, and low rotational mass will yeild sub10.8 sec runs. I run 116 octane, dry ice on intercooler in pits, methanol/water inj., nitrous(to get turbo spooled on launch), a 500hp avo garrett turbo, top mount intercooler( less volume between turbo and motor= faster spool-up) Ice will get it cooler than ANY front mount. twenty-eight lbs. of boost so far and I will go up to at least 33lbs at shootout. I run cometic high boost head gaskets, crower pro con rods, JE forged pistons, just added an AVO lightened flywheel, and rwd conversion will be finished in about three weeks. I have an eight point roll cage and a custom aluminum pro-drag wing off trunk deck. no bumpers,sway-bars,airbags,sub-frame connector gone, all fwd stuff is coming out,crash bars, out.
I have hundreds of other mods, but you get the picture. I use to drag Buick Grand Nationals. GN

and then?

~v6

Is there a question or point to this post?? Or are you just stating what you have and what it could do?

I used to spray nitrous on Ford Explorers.

Did you work at a car wash Wally?? LOL. Ford Explorers are quite dirty often, haha.

Edited. For Richard's viewing pleasure.

I am answering a question . i also have played around with a big ford. i put a powerdyne blower on my wife's mercury mountianer.(5.0)
Now that you know why i wasted my time writing this, mr. eightball sir, will you sleep better?

Uhh.. it is the bragging forum right? Sounds like a badass drag setup to me.

Originally posted by turbo2nr
mr. eight ball, i am answering a question from el-sharko. check the "wheels affecting 1/4 times. so, what was the point of your post, slo-boy? Come to the shoot out to get your doors blown off! east coast '04
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Turbo2nr... Why be so harsh?? "Slo-boy"?? I dont understand what the problem is. I just asked a question and meant nothing other than it to be a question... no sarcasm in my voice at all. Big Turkey is my friend and I am just messing with him. I suggest you take you bigboy attitude elsewhere. I am for sure not driving up to the Shootout for your car to beat me. Did I say anything about your car being slow?? I know its not going to be slow.

Richard

Originally posted by turbo2nr
mr. eight ball, i am answering a question from el-sharko. check the "wheels affecting 1/4 times. so, what was the point of your post, slo-boy? Come to the shoot out to get your doors blown off! east coast '04

Don't take the fact that you suck at the internet out on others.

What??? Cant work on our own cars?? Tell me one thing on my car that I havent added. You need to get off you high horse. You are no god because you can build a fast car... anyone can do that with enough money and trial and error. Monkeys can probably be taught to turn wrenches. Learning to weld is only a weekend and a good bud that knows how or a tech school course away(but it takes a long time to master). Tell me why participating in a group discussion is bad (because thats what a forum is). This thread needs to be locked because its going nowhere fast.

PS... next time you come out of your garage and onto the net... make sure its a day that you woke up on the right side of the bed.

Richard

Originally posted by turbo2nr
you guys are just jelous that you cant work on you own cars. get off the internet and get into the garage. I do suck on the internet. So! I can build my own unique drag car, EVERYTHING. Which one would you rather be good at?

Ok, you went from mildy annoying to flat out stupid.

You make all these claims. How about some proof? Pics of your car, time slips, videos? Anything?

You cant just come onto a forum running off at the mouth like you are ****ing god and expect any respect or belief from people..

I am not sure what your problem is, but the last thing Nasioc needs is another Al..

Just chill out and take your medication before sitting down at the keyboard..

Originally posted by turbo2nr
you guys are just jelous that you cant work on you own cars. get off the internet and get into the garage. I do suck on the internet. So! I can build my own unique drag car, EVERYTHING. Which one would you rather be good at?
:huh:

:lol:

"HEY GUYS I ran 11s but will running 10s next week after this guy builds my tranny and this other guy builds my driveshaft and I dont know any of you but Im better then you cus I have a FAST AZZ CAR YO!"


[/end mocking of jackass]

I knew this thread would suck.

~v6

ALL YOU REGULARS NEED TO CHILL THE HELL OUT.

Is this guy legit? Maybe, maybe not. But if he is, the last thing you need to do is jump down this throat and drive him off the board. So just stop flamin' the guy, and let him talk.

FSU

Originally posted by STi FSU
ALL YOU REGULARS NEED TO CHILL THE HELL OUT.

Is this guy legit? Maybe, maybe not. But if he is, the last thing you need to do is jump down this throat and drive him off the board. So just stop flamin' the guy, and let him talk.

FSU
with attitudes like his, who wants him here?
Just cus he may have a fast car? woopty do. Id rather have the nice guy running 14s on the board then some dickhead running 10s (we all know examples lets keep names out)

No one jumped on him... he jumped on me for no reason at all. So I politely told him to take his attitude elsewhere. I dont care if he legit with his setup or not... I dont want him apart of our board if hes gonna act like that.

Richard

i think we have another Al, except this guy is even worse in his very first month of being a member. do us a favor and leave please.

stay in the garage and continue to not learn how to be civil with people, on the internet or otherwise.

thanks, have a nice day.

Ben

Originally posted by eightballrj
Is there a question or point to this post?? Or are you just stating what you have and what it could do?

Um, I think you started it right there, honch.

FSU

How?? I asked a simple question. I would have asked him that to his face with no sarcasm. I meant nothing by that post other than an inquiry, honch. I posted at the same time as V6 not after him... so I was not following his lead or anything. When I got done typing and posting... his post was there. I am not known anywhere on this forums to start fights. I had no reason to be sarcastic to him as he hadnt been to me. I didnt even mind him being upset about what I initially said because he misunderstood my intentions. So I was very polite to him and didnt jump him until he fired back at me. Now, I am done justifying something that was not wrong in the first place... This thread can be locked now.

Originally posted by eightballrj
Is there a question or point to this post??

Look, I'm not trying to make a big deal out of this, but somebody could take that the wrong way.

FSU

And I addressed that opinion politely. You also cut out the part that furthered the question.

Originally posted by STi FSU
ALL YOU REGULARS NEED TO CHILL THE HELL OUT.

Is this guy legit? Maybe, maybe not. But if he is, the last thing you need to do is jump down this throat and drive him off the board. So just stop flamin' the guy, and let him talk.

FSU

FSU = http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/84728/300.jpg (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=539005)

~v6

Originally posted by turbo2nr
I am answering a question .

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I am not a jerk. I just thought your comment was stupid. This is the big ego and bragging rights forum, right? I think i am in the right place. I build my own trans! but i do not machine aerospace gears.

Haha. I'm eating my grape nuts and froted mini wheats while reading this. Nice morning wake up thread. My IQ went up 2 points after this one.

The key to it is that when asked what you meant by the post you got all defensive. Then I politely corrected your opinion that I was trying to be sarcastic towards you or something and you popped off at me again.

I applaud you for all you time and effort put into your car! But, you are FAR from the only one that does and can do work on your own car on this forum. There are people on this forum that know far more than you do about WRX's and Subaru's in general. I know this, so does most every other person on this board. So, most of us are a pretty humble bunch when it comes to car knowledge.

You choose to come and leave in your first month. No one else did that for you. You seem to be an alright guy that just has a short temper. We dont need the temper on here... we just need the knowledge.

So, no one is running you off as long as you keep the harsh words to yourself.

Also to reply to your question in the other thread about who I am helping... Well, with that post I helped anyone in the whole board that wanted to see your stats and build up so they wouldnt have to wade through the crap in this wonderful thread. Also, if you are asking if I help people on this forum you can look through all of my past one thousand posts and see all the people that I helped or tried to help.

So, the moral of the story is that you can do what you want and never come back here or you can come back with a different attitude and become part of this forum and show us what your beast of a car can do. But, you must know that most people on here are extreme skeptics. They have seen people make claims that go unfullfilled. So, they will ask for slips and/or videos to prove your claims so, be ready for that.

Richard

Al's evil twin:confused:

come to shootout to find out for your self

We talking about the eastcoast shootout in beaver springs??

Yeah thats what hes talking about.

Originally posted by STR8OUT
Al's evil twin:confused:

I know you didn't just go there :lol: That is the worst insult I have seen on these boards.

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when that cars is done it sounds like a killer:D

hopefully you will get some footage at the drags. I always love seeing Suby's kill V8's:D :cool:

Originally posted by Big Turkey
I used to spray nitrous on Ford Explorers.


You sir are sick :lol:

hey turbo t/a, lets talk about something real, ok? peace and chicken grease, first.
The subaru clan seems to have not used a vital tool in tuning. i am refering to the adj. fuel regulator. If you have began modding your car, then i bet you have one. I also bet you use a scaning tool of some type. Playing with your base fuel setting is an important part of fine tuning to get that car on the edge.
most subaru tuners insist on getting an expensive, reflash, or computer related stuff, which is ok, but there is more to be had.
If i am rich over a wide rpm band, a simple lowering of base fuel pressure setting will help at the track. Very fast and easy to do in the pits.

But, you know that if you are tuning with the stock ECU that it will learn around the lower fuel pressure and adjust. Thats where a good management system comes into play. Sorry if you were meaning for only V6 to answer but I saw the question so I figured I would put in my thoughts.

Richard

not so. the computer does not look at the o2 sensor at wide open throttle. a good computer tune will help set ignition timing, and to help with different injectors. Sure it can dictate injector pulse width and timing/vs other parameters, but having the ability to change base fuel pressure is another tool in your pocket. you can get more out of stock or STi injectors than you think with this method. using fuel pressure to fine tune is one of the oldest tricks in the book. turbov6 will know what i am talking about.
another tuning tool for fuel is the ability to adj. fuel pump voltage/vs boost pressure.
lean at the bottom, richer with more sick boost,
I run a MSD fuel pump booster. set the rate of voltage climbing/vs boost
it goes up to 26volts to pump @ max. setting
not too much pump at idle and low boost, but the ability to flow massive fuel when needed.
I also use a Moroso fuel cooler. (cool can) a little bit of gas going around and around gets hot and cooling it makes it denser and engine is less prone to detonation.
these are some of my pit tuning tricks, cheap, proven to work
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A lower base fuel pressure will change what the ECU sees from the front O2 in closed loop also. So, it WILL tune out the higher or lower fuel pressure in time.

so why does avo agree with me and even sell an adj. fuel pressure reg.
this is a very old idea and used by millions. i did not invent it

good conversation

I have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator on my car. But, I have management that runs STATIC maps for both fueling and timing under boost(UTEC). The Stock ecu without management will tune out any "mechanical" change in fueling if that same change affects closed loop also through the use of its long and short term fueling adjustments that it tries in closed loop and applies to the open loop(in boost).

<edit> But, I do agree with you that you can bump static pressure up a few pounds and gain a good deal of flow negating the needs to change to bigger injectors. Many people dont know that any go ahead and buy bigger injectors.

Richard

we are talking about drag racing not street driving. there is not enough time for computer to keep up with sudden changes @ track. I always reset my computer when i dump in 116octane! i have control of my car not the computer! I use txs products also, they are a good start, but there is sooo much more to use as tuning tools!

I agree. But, you do know that he ECU cant use C16 to any amount of what its worth without extra management and tuning ability. Are you running all these mods on the stock ECU or with a UTEC? But, I know that if you decide you want to go a bit richer across the board you can up fuel pressure a bit at the track. But, there are much better ways to do it. I do agree though that if you are short of management to control fueling that an adjustable FPR is a great item to have in you arsenal.

Richard

of course i have many tools including many maps made by phil( formerly of txs) for 116 with nitrous. I think i am the only one with it except him, but it is on the unichip. i have many programs, but do not need a laptop. I payed a lot for programs and had to beg.

you can't go low 11s on the stock computer with stock inj. I am going to blast into the 10s with authority, you don't have to believe me. i do it for me not you.

i take that back. with enough nitrous, anything is possible!

is your car yellow?

do you work at drivers image?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

check out some stuff at the end of the thread "Going fast in the qtr. mile"

car is black with a real roll cage(eight point) and a custom drag wing off the rear deck.

haha...i wasnt serious. but your "anything is possible with nitrous" made me think of these guys...plus they are running in the 11s with the stock ECU and stock injectors....and no AFPR.

and yes, the car is UGLYUGLYULGY yellow.

http://www.driversimage.com/p4.shtml

i also use various screens befor mass air flow sensor. I wont get into details but it does various things at certian conditions. I get them from junk yard out of old GM products. If i am looking for a certian thing, i may place a honeycomb screen just after the mass meter. it does not restrict air that much to make a noticable difference in power, but it does other things. can you guess what?

richen the mix.

so many things to try, so little time!

Why try all of those things and not just get a user tunable solution? I dont mean to pry or anything but that is a much easier and safer way to tune that use mechanical devices.

i think hondas are pretty cool cars!!

i have a civic with 135hp and I beat up on wrx's

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:banana: :furious: :banana:

What the heck did that have to do with anything??.

It is possible to tune for different conditions and new parts on car by buying some $1.00 resistors from radio shack and use them on map sensor and mass meter. you just have to know what you are looking for and confirm it on a scanning tool!
sure you can buy a $1200.00 part which needs a $800.00 computer to tune, or be proud, hard-headed, and inventive and make one, same results.
utec is great, but it reminds me of a 22-band equalizer for a stereo. if you had good speakers, and a good amp, it is not necessary, just cant stop playing with it.


I started a long time ago with my wrxs. i am on the third. i bought the unichip, and love it. I'm sticking with it until i hit a wall i can't get over. I don't like to give up on something. there will always be something new and improved by the time ups man brings you what you ordered. I don't like to waste money. i can get by with what i have or i will replace it. nobody wants a unichip. I like it

thank you for your valuable input eurodick. i lost iq points just looking at it.

Ok I commend you for trying new things then(well new things to the WRXs). I just wonder what eurodick meant by his posts?? Kinda RANDOM!!

i am looking at a cost point of view. many people don't want to go out and buy all that crap. I dont see anyone beating me yet with that fancy stuff. I use apple computers( they dont crash). I would have to start all over in many ways.

all you need to control is timing and fuel curve. I'm happy with the general tune.
I can fine tune it at different altitudes and temps. just fine.

we have just touched on some of my ideas. I believe in not listening to marketing hype. just look at that stupid hyper ground system. any one can cut wires and put them all over their motor and think that is a great upgrade, which reminds me, when powder coating parts on subys, be sure you are not opening a circut from sensors! i have learned the hard way!
no damage, but a lot of trouble shooting. I swore that metal to metal was there, but it was not. so i made ground straps.
Speaking of straps, i use an engine strap. Old school trick. tie that motor to frame rail to hold torq and to quiet that knock sensor when shifting. no need to waste power flopping that engin around!

There is MUCH hype marketed on these forums but the UTEC is NOT one of them. But you have to understand that mesh screens and always adjusting fuel pressure is not for 90% of people on this forum. So, if it works for you... GREAT. But it might not work for us. Also where are you strapping the motor to? Like from what part of the motor to the frame?

Richard

please jump to "running in the quarter"
read what i wrote there.
the begining of this thread sucks and i want it to go away!

Ok, will do.

Originally posted by turbo2nr
you guys are just jelous that you cant work on you own cars. get off the internet and get into the garage. I do suck on the internet. So! I can build my own unique drag car, EVERYTHING. Which one would you rather be good at?

I am a dealership tech and do ALL my own work on my car (as well as many other peoples cars)
I have built an 11 second Beetle
I have helped build several aircooled VW show cars

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I dont suck at the internet
Whats your excuse again???

i have no excuse for sucking at internet.

i have had great discussions the past hour. i will not argue anymore. do you have any other comments about something dealing with subarus or drag racing?

i am done being an ass. do you have any comments about subarus or tuning for drag racing.

Originally posted by turbo2nr
please jump to "running in the quarter"
read what i wrote there.
the begining of this thread sucks and i want it to go away!
I agree, it got better, thank you.

Note: The key to Subaru power, IMHO, is the 93-96 chassis ;)

Thanks for playin nice guys!

FSU

Do we even have moderators anymore? :confused: