are htere any 2.5 in. midpipes availible without the muffler available? If so where/

Yes, just have one made. Should be real cheap for a straight pipe.

thanx

Don't expect any gains from this kind of mod. Just a lot of noise. The 5Zigen muffler, I use, and all other straight-thru design muffler poses no obstruction to the flow of gas. The muffler does just what its name implies. It muffles the noise of your engine breathing out.
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I know I'm gonna want a universal muffler that way I can find just the sound I want since I'll have a wide selection.

hehe..you may have answered it..j/k.

it just depends on what mufflers you want...not all hangers are the same and not all lengths are the same is what i'm trying to point out

keep in mind that not all mufflers are the same size....so you may have to have a new pipe made every time you change mufflers.

oh and get the car to put it on http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/biggrin.gif

huh you lost me on that one? so a universal muffler won't fit?

you can't just have a pipe made for any ol muffler..it has to be made to the size of the muffler your putting on the car.

yes but If i'm correct (I'm probably not) the N1 and DUNK from apex are universal mufflers so there have to be SOME mufflers that fit. Or should I still be in the newbie forum.