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HRE | giulio
11-29-2000, 07:25 AM
Hey everyone,
Who makes lightened flywheels for under a billion dollars?
I want 9-11 lbs, and not shaved off of a stock flywheel.
Thanks!
giulio

efoo
11-29-2000, 07:53 AM
Exedy makes them - Subysports sells them.

If you're after cheaper ones, I think I might be selling mine along with a lightly used ACT street clutch soon. email me if you're interested.

-Edwin

Keith
11-29-2000, 08:20 AM
HHAHhaha giulio is cHeap!! http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif
acutally it is alot of damn money..I totaly understand..get me one also http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif
Keith

Cacophony
11-29-2000, 08:32 AM
I've got an 11lb Unorthodox Racing flywheel.. it's not a machined down stock unit either. I love it, recommend it highly.. price of admission is a little steep tho at around $630 http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif

RidinLow
11-29-2000, 08:38 AM
Edwin... emailed you about the clutch & flywheel.

stimpy
11-29-2000, 12:58 PM
efoo:
Why are you selling your flywheel and clutch? Isn't it an ideal item to have when you have forced induction? Or perhaps, it's not all that it's cracked up to be? I ask this because I don't think I am going to be able to do cams right now, so I figured I would put in a lighter flywheel when my dealer fixes the "clutch shudder".

HRE | giulio
11-29-2000, 02:06 PM
my toes hurt...

that's ok i already have the ACT cltuch. Am waiting for a flywheel to do both at the same time.

How can i get in touch with exedy?

Are Unorthodox and Exedy the only ones?!

Yeah keith, i'm cheap. yo mamma aint pullin in the $$ she used to be.
g0

8Complex
11-29-2000, 02:15 PM
I'm pretty sure JC Sports has some (even if it's not on their page) and I know there was at least one or two more places that did, I just can't remember which. *shrug*

ColinL
11-29-2000, 02:20 PM
g0-- (heh)

JC Sports, ISR and several others market their own lightweight flywheels. Call around a little. I wouldn't go too light, and if it's aluminum it should have a steel starter ring or it maybe not last long.

JulianH
11-29-2000, 03:20 PM
I can't find it on there web site now, but JC Sports has a Cro-Moly flywheel for $399. Not a bad price if you ask me.

Julian

TMR Impreza
11-29-2000, 03:27 PM
ISR has a 11lb aluminium flywheel that is really nice. Next to the ACT flywheel its lighter. Very nice. $479
www.autocaresubaru.com (http://www.autocaresubaru.com)

t.rod
11-29-2000, 03:28 PM
Cobb has them. www.cobbtuning.com (http://www.cobbtuning.com)
I think they are on him website. I've seen one at his shop. Looks good. It is a 11 pound flywheel.
I have an exedy and I like it. I got it through a GB.

[This message has been edited by t.rod (edited November 29, 2000).]

stimpy
11-29-2000, 05:41 PM
So how light is too light for our imprezas? And while speaking of light, I noticed a lot of companies are selling aluminum flywheels instead of milled steel. Do we need to worry about the aluminum flywheels not being up to the task, or are they just as reliable as the milled steel flywheels? I know some people mentioned that it is hard to mate the steel gear teeth with the aluminum, which is why I asked.

Thanks

efoo
11-29-2000, 05:47 PM
you don't want *either* aluminum or milled steel. you want *cast* chromoly steel, just like the stock ones. it's a safety issue - people have been killed by exploding flywheels before guys. don't shop around just looking for the cheapest one.

i am thinking of selling mine only if I end up deciding to go for a WRX transmission instead of building up my stock one. The turbo transmissions don't fit our clutches and flywheels (different bolt pattern), so that means i have to use other ones instead, unfortunately.

as for lightness, mine is 13lbs. I'd say that about the lowest you should go for a street driven car. You'll be surprised just how much you miss the extra heft of the stock flywheel for normal around-town driving. you always have to shift around 3500-4000 rpm to upshift smoothly in my car - anything lower and the revs drop too fast to match no matter how fast you shift. of course, downshifting is ridiculously easy though, and I look like a hero when I go around corners and downshift so fast that i'm back on the gas powering out of the corner before most other people. You win some, you lose some. I think i've won more than I've lost. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif

-Edwin


[This message has been edited by efoo (edited November 29, 2000).]

stimpy
11-29-2000, 06:06 PM
That helps out a lot, thanks efoo!
I got my terms mixed up; I didn't realize that the milled was one of the weaker flywheels. I intended the reliability to be compared to that of the Exedy flywheel ("new casting of chromolly hardened steel"). Sorry to have added some confusion to the thread http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/tongue.gif
Basically, the safest route to go with, is going to be the cast steel flywheels as opposed to aluminum ones or milled out stock flywheels.

RidinLow
11-29-2000, 06:14 PM
Back before the McLaren F1 roadcar debuted, one of the test drivers was killed when the flywheel decided to let go & find its way into the cabin. Pretty nasty way to die if you ask me.

So this isn't a part you want to cheap out on.

TMR Impreza
11-29-2000, 08:04 PM
Do you know that when the F1 car blew its flywheel, it was spinning at 16,000 RPMs. I had my flywheel on my car for a few onths and I have been running at almost 14lb's of boost. I **** hard, fast, abuse the life out of it. The ISR flywheel is really nice and light weight. Do you really think most of us are going to rev at 16,000 RPMs?

RidinLow
11-29-2000, 08:15 PM
I'm talking about the F1 road car... not an F1 open wheeled racecar. Unless you knew that & there's some way that the BMW motor can hit 16000 rpm? Quick downshift into 1st at 150mph? http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by RidinLow (edited November 29, 2000).]

ImprezaRS dot com
11-29-2000, 09:36 PM
I got the JC Sports Chrome Molly 12lb flywheel for $400 (plus S&H) and I love it. It works well with my turbo'd RS.

Larry

Cacophony
11-30-2000, 01:14 AM
Once I got my act clutch and unorthodox flywheel put in, I wondered why the hell I waited so long to do these mods.
As far as I'm concerned, the car should have come STOCK with those parts http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif

Keith
11-30-2000, 07:58 AM
hehe, i will tell her to start making more money for you...soorry..its been tough at home. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif
Hehe
Yo, if and when u get this new fly wheel, tell me! I want to play also http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif
Laters,
Keith

HRE | giulio
11-30-2000, 08:27 AM
keith, you and your playing... hairy palms! haha

Thanks everyone!
Looks like either JC or Unorthodox.
Is a pound lighter worth $230?
g0

Jay_UK
11-30-2000, 08:42 AM
This is my flywheel...yummy http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif

http://firefox@www.c-t-l.co.uk/firefox/Engine/Rear%20view%20of%20lightened%20fly%20wheel%20showi ng%20balancing.jpg

I love pictures http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif

Notice the balancing ? Fully balanaced with the clutch.

J.

ColinL
11-30-2000, 09:14 AM
Garrick, the solution to the problem you describe is called a scattershield. Mandatory for NHRA and IHRA drag racing past a certain level, and many forms of road racing require them too.

stimpy
11-30-2000, 10:37 AM
So where would you install the scatter shield in a scooby?

Cacophony
11-30-2000, 10:47 AM
What? No lighter than 13lbs for street!?

I've got no problems with my 11lb flywheel, in or out of traffic. Nor do I seem to have trouble shifting smoothly. And that's with timing advanced a bit too, which makes the throttle response even twitchier.

It's all about technique http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/wink.gif

HRE | giulio
12-01-2000, 08:05 AM
i heard an expert say that he used a 13 lb and barely felt a difference. I'd like to get a 9 lb, but i dont think anyone makes them that light.

How can a shattered flywheel enter the cabin? isnt the tranny way into the enigne bay? At worst i think the flywheel would go through the hood. Am i nieve?

efoo
12-01-2000, 12:21 PM
gulio - the flywheel is right in between the transmission and the engine. take a look under your car, and you'll see that it's about 6 inches away from your foot. sure, you've got the firewall in between you and it, but it's your foot, not mine. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif

as for the flywheel weight, it depends on driving style. I don't pretend to be colin mcrae every time I get in my car, unlike some people... http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif

but then, I've got other high-speed spinning objects in my car.... my revs go up plenty fast when i floor it, heavy flywheel or not. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif

-Edwin


[This message has been edited by efoo (edited December 01, 2000).]

RallyKid
12-01-2000, 02:29 PM
Whats wrong w/ cutting down your stock wheel? Has anybody done it, how much was it, how thin did you go, and what is the current weight compared to stock?

Thanks

edekker
12-01-2000, 03:28 PM
There’s an amazing Subaru dealership in Lachute, Quebec (near Montreal), which sells the lightened flywheel made from the stock unit. I’ve seen it myself – it weighs about 17 lbs (stock is about 26 lbs). This dealer actually encourages, supports and warranties much of the aftermarket performance parts and labor. His prices are in Canadian funds – and are affordable.

This dealer also sponsor’s a rally team (Sylvain Vincent/Dominique Cyr) and maintains their WRX.

The owner’s name is Rejean and his web site is: http://www.lac-ss.com/

Parts are here: http://www.lac-ss.com/hauteperformance.html

Ed.

JC SPORTS
12-02-2000, 02:39 PM
We have the 12lb Chrome-moly flywheels for $399.95!! These are the best buy out there! We have used the aluminum flywheels in the past and found a problem with the aluminum expanding and contracting causing the clutch to be adjusted over and over again.

Just my .02 Kevin

P.S. pics will be up on the site for those of you who want to see them today.

Aspen
12-02-2000, 04:02 PM
Some of you don't know this, but ACT Clutches actually uses Stock Flywheels and just mills them down.

I'm not 100% sure if they do it for the Subaru Flywheels but I'm positive they do it for all the other cars.

AdamSTi
12-02-2000, 06:24 PM
Just got my ACT cluch and it doesn't come with a fly wheel.

gumby647
12-02-2000, 06:51 PM
One thing to consider with flywheels is that a 11# flywheel from one maufacturer may have the same inertial effect as a 13# flywheel from another. I the 11# flywheel had more of its mass on the outer edge of the flywheel and the 13# flywheels mass is greater in the middle then the 11# flywheel would have more "flywheel effect" than the 13#. So just comparing them by weight is not an accurate means of determining how it will feel.

HRE | giulio
12-02-2000, 07:09 PM
JC Sports...
I emailed you requesting info earlier in the week.
I'd like to order one please. What's the wait time?
Thanks,
g0

ChAi
12-03-2000, 09:08 PM
I've got an 11lb Unorthodox Racing flywheel with minnum stage 2. it work very well http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/cool.gif

HRE | giulio
12-04-2000, 07:16 AM
yeah i can get one from UR. I can actually drive to them after work and pick one up http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif
The problem is, it's an extra $230!
If JC doesnt get back to my by thursday, and UR will sell to me for $500, I'm there.
g0

JC SPORTS
12-04-2000, 11:10 AM
Guilio, I PM'd you. The flywheel is ready to ship!

Kevin

HRE | giulio
12-05-2000, 07:01 AM
I didnt receive any PM, or email. I dont want to spound like an a-hole... what's going on?
giulio@inetmedia.com
I'll call later tonight if I remember to, work fries my brain.

HRE | giulio
12-05-2000, 03:01 PM
maybe i should organize a gb on the UR flywheel.

stimpy
12-05-2000, 03:03 PM
Only problem with that is my car will hopefully be going in for a clutch replacement under warranty, and I am going to need a flywheel soon; otherwise, I am doing it myself out on the street...

RidinLow
12-05-2000, 04:33 PM
Stimpy, same here.


Goolio, if you could get a group buy on cro-mo cast flywheels for under $400 shipped I'd be in.

ImprezaRS dot com
12-05-2000, 07:35 PM
giulio,

I think kevin PM'd guilio instead of you. I would email him back. I am very happy with my JC Sports 12lb flywheel...

Larry

stimpy
12-06-2000, 01:22 AM
Hey Kevin, did you get a pic uploaded to your website(www.jcsports.net)? I am curious to see the flywheel as I am probably going to end up purchasing a flywheel when my car goes in for a clutch replacement.

Thanks,
Jon

STiShawn
12-06-2000, 01:56 AM
Im intersted too in the JC sports one, but you guys never contact me, and your order form on the site is worthless, at least it didnt work for me, I even called you!

HRE | giulio
12-06-2000, 06:37 AM
yeah, maybe he missed the error message.
I emailed them last week too though.
Eh, whatever. It shouldnt be so hard to spend money.
Ridin, only people that spell my name right can be in the GB if i do one http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/smile.gif
Say it with me.. "jew lee owe" (italian)
Not "hoo lee owe" (spanish)
get it got it good
:P

RidinLow
12-06-2000, 08:53 AM
Sorry bout that, Coolio. http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/wink.gif

HRE | giulio
12-06-2000, 09:23 AM
...freekin wise ass haha

JC SPORTS
12-06-2000, 05:42 PM
Sorry for the missed e-mails, went out of town and the pic didnt go up on the site because we are about to launch the new web-site.

Kevin

anerd
12-08-2000, 11:32 AM
any flywheels for the impreza sfi(is that the right TLA?) certified.
Also any sfi scattershields and clutches for the impreza? I like overengineered parts (minimize my stupidness from killing me, or loosing some toes).
If yes for any of the above, who makes them? Phone number/URL?

Baru
12-13-2000, 12:02 PM
Will a 9-10 lbs flywheel be too light for the 2.2L engine?

RidinLow
12-13-2000, 05:34 PM
There's a group buy on SFI certified clutches & 12 lb cromo flywheels going on in the Private Classifieds section under my name.

doripreza
12-13-2000, 05:42 PM
i have a toda flywheel..
i love it

Baru
12-14-2000, 01:43 AM
The reason I asked is because I heard a chromo flywheel cannot be resurfaced, while aluminum flywheel's friction surface insert can be resurfaced or replaced, and the flywheel usually weights around 9-10 lbs.