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Mariuslt
07-31-2004, 04:03 AM
Hiya, i ordered a injen intake from boxer4racing.com recently for my 2004 2.5RS and he said that it should fit perfectly, now when we got everything off and such, there was no bracket for the CAI and the MAF didn't even have enough room to reach the CAI, and other cables didn't eaither. Im just wondering if you guys had any kind of ideas or suggestions, or fixes for this problem. Thank you and have a nice day

ttboy19
07-31-2004, 04:35 PM
Problem solved yet?

piker28
07-31-2004, 07:25 PM
welp heres the first thing

-take your car to subaru and complain they put a 98-99 EJ25 in your car
-second figure out our cars are MAP not Maf ;)

ok done messing around but that sensor i think you mean is the IAT sensor, maybe he shipped the wrong one call up the guy and tell him

wagonman
07-31-2004, 08:35 PM
i think they went back to MAF's on 2004's. it sounds like he sent the wrong one. give them a call, they are really good about fixing stuff like that.

elijah25rs
07-31-2004, 08:42 PM
Woud an Injen CAI from my friend's 2001 fit on my 2004?

piker28
07-31-2004, 10:01 PM
^^with slight modifications yes

and to wagonman no the 04s were still MAP supposingly the 05s are MAF but i dont know anyone with one so i cant confirm that

wagonman
07-31-2004, 10:02 PM
sounds good to me

elijah25rs
08-01-2004, 01:49 AM
^^with slight modifications yes

and to wagonman no the 04s were still MAP supposingly the 05s are MAF but i dont know anyone with one so i cant confirm that

What sort of modifications are we looking at? Thanks, Jason.

Defiantguy
08-01-2004, 01:59 AM
I did it to my friend's 04. Basically undo some of the electrical tape around the iat sensor and you can get it to fit on the intake, as for the bracket to hold the intake, cut it off. It just gets in the way. Fit the other piece in the fenderwell and attach it all together. Works like a charm.

elijah25rs
08-01-2004, 02:51 AM
^^ thank yous.

piker28
08-01-2004, 12:34 PM
^^dont cut the bracket because if you ever put the stock intake back on the bracket will no longer be there

to use your friends intake (depending on how injen made them) you will need to drill a hole for the IAT sensor if there is not one for it already, just drill a 3/4 hole and use the stock rubber grommet that was in your stock intake. Also check to see how many breather plugs there are on the intake because my 03 has 2 but my intake had 3 so i had to plug one of them up)

elijah25rs
08-01-2004, 02:13 PM
^^ Thank you!! What did you plug the third with?

piker28
08-01-2004, 02:15 PM
welp for the breather hoses its special for the cobb since they are a very tight fit so i just cut one since i wont use it and stuck a bolt in there that was MEGA tight and then ill eventually use silicone around the bolt so nothing will get through

Alpha_32
08-01-2004, 03:57 PM
here's my injen on my 04 (its durtay T_T)

http://img24.exs.cx/img24/3624/IMG_19.jpg

i took it to a exaust shop to have them weld the bung closed.....but they said since it was chrome plated that welding it would cause the chrome to peel off, so they were like "ok we'll make somthing to plug up the hole" and this is what they did, eheh i didn't see what they did but if you want a closer up pic i can take one.

elijah25rs
08-01-2004, 06:05 PM
^^ that looks good. can you send me more pics and exactly what they did?

piker28
08-01-2004, 06:34 PM
ewww injen, id be worried of sucking in water with one of those

but the plug they made looks nice, wonder how they did it

elijah25rs
08-01-2004, 06:35 PM
Water ingestion? I heard it wasn't bad unless you got into 2-3 feet of standing water? Confirmation?

piker28
08-01-2004, 06:40 PM
i live in jersey and ive driven through some stuff in which id be afriad to have that filter down in there

plus whats the fun in a scooby if you cant make a big splash in a puddle :)

ttboy19
08-01-2004, 08:03 PM
alpha 32 - you put the sensor in the wrong hole, and you shouldn't have plugged the other nipple. when you got your intake, there was a rubber grommet that already plugged one hole.(where you put the sensor) and the sensor goes into the tube that connects to the nipple that you plugged.

piker28 - unless your car is swimming in water, there won't be any water ingestion.


Just because it's says "Scooby Specialist" under somebody's screen name, it doesn't necessarily mean they know what they're talking about. *ahem* piker :rolleyes:

Impreza25
08-02-2004, 01:37 AM
^^with slight modifications yes

and to wagonman no the 04s were still MAP supposingly the 05s are MAF but i dont know anyone with one so i cant confirm that

the 05 are Maf, i have one...but trying to see what fits for my car...like headers and what not

impr25rs
08-02-2004, 02:00 PM
ttboy19, alpha did it exactly as I did. Mariuslt, I had to cut some of the electrical tape (with a box knife) that held some wires and the IAT sensor together so it would have enough length to fit into the whole. The gromet doesn't come with the intake and you have to use the one from the stock airbox. I also plugged the middle vacuum line as alpha has done (00-01 had three, 04 have two). ttboy19, why did you say not to plug the extra vacuum, won't there be a loss in pressure? The bracket that was mentioned to cut is the one I think on the intake. 00-01 had a taller stock airbox bracket then the 04 (to my suprise), I just took a couple of stripties and made it as tight as I could. It still vibrates a little in the startup, but that is it. This intake is really loud and make your car sound like a VW. A high winde, but not like a Honda. :) About the water injestion. I was afraid of that too, but the bottom is totally enclosed and the only way I saw that water could even get close to the intake is through the little fog whole. But right after that is the fog light bolt plate and the water has to make it over that, and then it can make it to the intake. Then it has to make it through the filter. So whatever, I am sure a little water may get into it, but I am not as worried after having to put it on.
Impreza25, I am not sure with the headers, because the difference between a MAP based car and MAF. I can not believe Subaru went MAF with the 05, :furious:. I want a MAF car. :mad: Oh well, I wish I could help more. Hopefully the after market responds quick. I know how much it stinks to wait for stuff to come out.

XRayHipp
08-02-2004, 10:14 PM
hmmm

kevin2.5rs
08-03-2004, 07:11 PM
:confused: :
Just a thought, why not just get a CAI from cobb?

impr25rs
08-03-2004, 09:37 PM
The Injen CAI cost me only 205 after shipping

Alpha_32
08-07-2004, 01:33 PM
well i didn't get a cobb for 2 reasons....it was either wait 2 days for the injen or 3-5 weeks for a cobb....i didn't have time to wait for the cobb since i was going on vacation and the injen was cheaper

Defiantguy
08-07-2004, 01:35 PM
alpha 32 - you put the sensor in the wrong hole, and you shouldn't have plugged the other nipple. when you got your intake, there was a rubber grommet that already plugged one hole.(where you put the sensor) and the sensor goes into the tube that connects to the nipple that you plugged.

piker28 - unless your car is swimming in water, there won't be any water ingestion.


Just because it's says "Scooby Specialist" under somebody's screen name, it doesn't necessarily mean they know what they're talking about. *ahem* piker :rolleyes:

what the hell you talking about? the iat sensor goes into a grommet into the intake. The nipple is for an extra vacuum hose that the 04s don't have. If he had a 00 like me then we would've used the extra line for another acessory hose.

impreza25 Newbie
08-10-2004, 04:51 PM
Hi,
I am a newbie and i just got RS2.5 04 model.
I also purchased the Injen Intake. I am a little bit confused about the MAP and MAF. Will the injen effect the engine? How do i plug in the 3 tubes everyone mentioned about?

impreza25 Newbie
08-10-2004, 04:53 PM
the iat sensor goes into a grommet into the intake. The nipple is for an extra vacuum hose that the 04s don't have. If he had a 00 like me then we would've used the extra line for another acessory hose.

What is the IAT sensor? where is it located? got a pic? i have a 04, so what should i do?

impr25rs
08-10-2004, 06:32 PM
Welcome impreza25 Newbie. Congrats on the car. Becareful with what you say some will just say "Search".

You said that you just got the car? I would not put the intake on yet. I would go at least 3,000 miles, oil change, 500 more, and then intake. I'm only suggesting this because of the breakin period. This will let everything get together and work. Don't go over 4,000 RPM during the breakin if you can.

Here is a link on the difference between MAP and MAF

http://www.cobbtuning.com/tech/airflow/index.html

IF you look at the pic of the intake on the other post page, there are 3 little things pockin' out. The furthest left is the IAT sensor. I believe it is the Intake Air Temperature sensor. Read the link for more info. The next two are vaccum lines, and there is actually a third that is not in the picture. If you have an 04 you want to use the first and last vaccum line, you don't need the middle. Just like the pic. To install, I had to cut some of the electrical tape (with a box knife) that held some wires and the IAT sensor together so it would have enough length to fit into the whole. The gromet doesn't come with the intake and you have to use the one from the stock airbox. I also plugged the middle vacuum line as alpha has done in the pic(00-01 had three, 04 have two). The 00-01 had a taller stock airbox bracket then the 04 (to my suprise), I just took a couple of stripties and made it as tight as I could. It still vibrates a little in the startup, but that is it. Just fallow the directions in the box with the intake. Take your time and learn a little about the car too.

silent_rob_95
08-11-2004, 12:26 AM
alpha 32 - you put the sensor in the wrong hole, and you shouldn't have plugged the other nipple. when you got your intake, there was a rubber grommet that already plugged one hole.(where you put the sensor) and the sensor goes into the tube that connects to the nipple that you plugged.

piker28 - unless your car is swimming in water, there won't be any water ingestion.


Just because it's says "Scooby Specialist" under somebody's screen name, it doesn't necessarily mean they know what they're talking about. *ahem* piker :rolleyes:
OHhhhhh!

You got served.

silent_rob_95
08-11-2004, 12:28 AM
What is the IAT sensor? where is it located? got a pic? i have a 04, so what should i do?
You'll need to cut a hole in the intake and place the IAT sensor in there. If you look on your intake box, it should be on the front right side. In the picture before, its the first plug with the black plastic housing over the wires. It is differernt from the rest of the stuff going into the intake piping.