well, I am sure I am not the only one to post up a review for these, but well here goes.

car: 2004 wagon.

first on the install:

thanks to this thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=581050&highlight=spring+install+guide

I was going to put a nice write up on how it went, but here is the short version 12 beers, air compressor and 2 and 1/2 hours. it went well, the install is simple enough I would call it novice (especially if you have air tools). 6 bolts or nuts on each strut, plus the parts are big so I think less intimidating.

not as easy as putting in the hood scoop, but not as hard as rebuilding and tuning a carburetor (not that anyone would be doing that these days anyway).

well, driving impressions:

after taking a shower and sobering up a bit I decided to return the spring compressors and take some low traveled nicely cornered streets.

my first impression was, why didn't my car come like this from the factory?!?

ride was enhanced, it feels more planted, less body roll, and it looks sweet as heck.

going over bumps on some of the uglier streets in my area it felt just a bit stiffer, but nothing that would knock out any fillings.

pulling in and out of parking lots is as refreshing as it was stock, I don't have to slow down to absurdly slow speeds or angle on entry like you see so many of the more 'fashionable imports' do.

it has a much stouter stance, and when I look at it from the outside it is very agreable.

one note, I went ahead and on the fronts I didn't mark the camber so that I could return it to whatever it was on install, so I just dialed each one in as negative as possible. I'll be aligning it next weekend when I have a chance to take it into a shop and it has had a chance to settle out a bit. so the handling quality may improve as well.

I guess in conclusion, if you are looking to improve the fun factor of your car without sacrificing too much of the feel get a rear sway bar and these springs, you won't be dissapointed.

edit: other suspension mods: 20mm '02 rsb; 17" wheels and tires.

rep ost

:alien:

Very nice writeup and review.

I'm interested in these as well as the Pinks. I'll have to wait and see if someone does a comparison review. I like the drop the prodrives give better though. The pinks seem to have a larger front wheelgap.

ahh... where is the delete key?

get the prodrives!

I just installed the prodrives last weekend and am very impressed. The car looks like it should from the factory and they are quite progressive: they are smooth over the small bumps in the road, but are tight around corners. Very nice.

how much drop are you guys seeing with them?

Pics? We've seen the look on the 02-03's, is it the same for the 04's? Show me.

i'd love to see some pics if you have them. Especially from the side to see what the drop and wheel gap look like.

after taking a shower and sobering up a bit I decided to return the spring compressors and take some low traveled nicely cornered streets.

You had 12 beers and thought that it would only take a shower and a break to sober you up. Try about ten hours. People like you piss me off.

Duncan

I'm sure it was a bit of an exaggeration since 12 beers in 2.5 hours while installing springs is a hard feat. The message isn't one to send out to kids, but he's just trying to joke around. ~Be easy brother

;)

how much drop are you guys seeing with them?

I think about 1.5'' in the front and about .5-.75'' in the rear. Definitly helps fill in the wheel gap with 17''s, and you might need to be careful about rubbing, but they are definitly nice springs.

Saunders

I'm sure it was a bit of an exaggeration since 12 beers in 2.5 hours while installing springs is a hard feat. The message isn't one to send out to kids, but he's just trying to joke around. ~Be easy brother

;)
In this link (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=605706&highlight=spring+install+time) he mentions that he spilled 1/4 of a beer so I think the 12 beers is not an exaggeration or poetic license.

Ok then, I take that back. Damn - There's always no excuse for that. For a special occasion/party it isunderstandable as long as you are careful on the ride home. But getting tipsy while installing performance parts and then going out right after to test it out is plain dumb.

Let's try not to get off topic though

The car looks like it should from the factory and they are quite progressive: they are smooth over the small bumps in the road, but are tight around corners. Very nice.
actually theyre not progressive at all. theyre linear. thats a large part why i think they dont suck. if you think theyre good with 17s and a rear swaybar you should try adding a larger front swaybar too. it trully completes the package.

well, the 2002-2003 Prodrives are definitely linear. It may be that the 04 up springs are progressive, I've yet to see a set up close.

what did you pay for them?

where did you get them from?