Early this year my dad purchased a limited edition 2004 Monte Carlo SS Supercharged, black w/silvertrim.

They finally slipped the GTPs 3800 Series II under the hood, with good results. Bone stock he managed 14.9 @ 92 mph.

With just a pulley and a K&N panel filter he ran 14.6 @ 93 mph.

Then add a 20 degree cooler thermostat, he ran 14.1 @ 96 mph.

Lastly, add in a re-flashed PCM, and he busted out a 13.89 @ 99.6, and he's never been able to get better than a 2.1 sixty foot!!

His launch method? Sit there until the light turns, and mash the gas. No power breaking, no revving at all. Heck, he has to leave the traction control on or the tires go up in smoke! So all the way through 1st gear, the PCM is letting off to prevent wheelspin!! And it chirps when it shifts to second!

Pretty cool ride....

Cost of his mods?
Pulley - $50
K&N - $50
180 Thermostat - $19
PCM Reflash - $299

Total- ~$420 and more than a second off his quartermile!! Not bad for a 3600lb beast!

Hes gotta be close to 300 crank horsepower! Stock they are rated @ 240 hp/280 tq.

He wants to occupy the this sites frontpage, so click the link, check out his car and vote for my dad!! lol!

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Monte%20Carlo-Timeslip-3705.html

def

BTW- this is my link... right now I am #3 lol! Behind the Rigolis. Vote for me too if you want! :D

http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-3677.html

def

Dang, i wish stuff was that cheap for the rex.

I give props to the mighty 231ci V6... but.

my wrx ran 13.57@98.44 with under $300 invested.

~v6

That's pretty cool. I can't imagine a thermostat dropping ETs by .5 seconds, though.

That's pretty cool. I can't imagine a thermostat dropping ETs by .5 seconds, though.


Yep. It works well on the "dumb" ecus. ;)

I know several people that have run 12.7 to 12.9 with $300-$400 in mods on the WRX.

C

In reality I could duplicate my 13.5 pass for about $60 including the cost of race gas, and the cost of racing ($17)

12's are very impressive for $3-400 if its without nos :)

~v6

I could duplicate your times for free and have the race fuel and entry fee donated :) I guess double wide tax bracket racing next excited me. Maybe cause I can afford a part here and there to do things right. I dont like to cheapen a car... but thats me.

V6.. Are saying that NOS does not count?

C

From a roll (heck even from a light) that thing will surprise most WRXs out there.... guaranteed.

Most people wouldn't give the Monte another look... that is until it shows its taillights!

Also, I am not implying that the 'stat dropped his ET 0.5, but thats the results he got... soo.. go figure. Better track conditions I am sure helped.

def

I could duplicate your times for free and have the race fuel and entry fee donated :) I guess double wide tax bracket racing next excited me. Maybe cause I can afford a part here and there to do things right. I dont like to cheapen a car... but thats me.

V6.. Are saying that NOS does not count?

C
I was talking about buying the parts brand new, total REAL expenses.

I was also just posting said info to show that the WRX can achieve equal if not greater gains for short money also.

Does NOS count? Are you trying to lure me into some simple minded trap here?
Yes it counts, add it to both cars or dont bother mentioning it :D

YOU are taking this thread down a foolish road, just note that it started here. I noted what can be done with a wrx to contrast the monte. Nothing more, nothing less.

Good effort tho :devil:

~v6

what kind of mph do those things run with a better exhuast added to the equation?

~105 or so... w/full exhaust

def

I still bet that monte will whoop the WRX's arse on the highway :D

~v6

Nice times with the Monte. I've driven one of them exactly one time. I will try to avoid it in the future. :)

I know several people that have run 12.7 to 12.9 with $300-$400 in mods on the WRX.

C

In your dreams! :huh:

I still bet that monte will whoop the WRX's arse on the highway :D

~v6

What doesn't though?? :confused:

Bryan

v6turbogta and azscoobie,

What are the mods for under $400 that get you into the high 12's-mid 13's?
I am curious.

Thanks

Dug-e-fresh,

I am wondering if a 20dgrees cooler thermostat would do any improvement on my WRX times. Does any one know?

High 12's? NOS will do it. :devil: Thats the only way I see it happening.
I ran 13.5 with an mbc and an air filter... so add a few hundred in parts from there and I bet it would be a little quicker, but nothing earth shattering. :)

~v6

In your dreams! :huh:

More like in reality

Vote for him everyday if you can!!

We almost have him into the #5 spot for Septmeber!!

def

i bet a scooby with gutted up/downpipe, open downpipe...mbc, fcd, and 116 could break into the 12's pretty easily.

I could run 11's with just $2.50...

:rolleyes:

High 12's? NOS will do it.
~v6


Hmm... NOS will do it, eh? What about Nitrous Express or Zex or one of the other myriad of nitrous system designers? :p

I know several people that have run 12.7 to 12.9 with $300-$400 in mods on the WRX.

C


I want some of what you've been smoking buddy :lol:

body panels ... who needs those ... roof ... that needs to go ... what else can this hacksaw remove

What was it that SCC did a while back? Where the completely hacked a re car down to pretty much the raw chassis... extreme weight reductions or something?

Anyway, there was 2 reasons I posted this thread:

1- Vote for my dad ;)

2- To point out that there are some cars out there other than you run if the mill sport compact, Mustang or LS1 that responds reasonably well to mods. 13.8 in a auto fwd car with $400 bucks into it, that weighs 3600 lbs??? Sorry... I am abit impressed! and happy for my dad...

BTW- everyone vote today? ;)

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Monte%20Carlo-Timeslip-3705.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-3677.html
def

bluRb

~v6

I am surprised noone has mentioned that the Monte is about $2800 more on MSRP than the WRX and tried to add in that cost worth of upgrades as well. But I do think the Monte is definately a nice ride for that cost still. As always it is nice to have choices like that in the car scene currently.

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I am surprised noone has mentioned that the Monte is about $2800 more on MSRP than the WRX and tried to add in that cost worth of upgrades as well. But I do think the Monte is definately a nice ride for that cost still. As always it is nice to have choices like that in the car scene currently.

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And comes MUCH better appointed I might add... however, since my dad works for GM, he picked the car up for something silly like $22k!!

def

And comes MUCH better appointed I might add... however, since my dad works for GM, he picked the car up for something silly like $22k!!

def

Yep, I will agree at the price the WRX leaves a little to be desired on the interior. Although it is still better than the EVO (except for the seats which probably more than makes up for it). Fantastic deal for your pops!

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What was it that SCC did a while back? Where the completely hacked a re car down to pretty much the raw chassis... extreme weight reductions or something?


That was one of the funniest things I have ever read! :lol:

Here's the link:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=776885

lol more like WRX is the monte carlo killer.

i am much more impressed with a wrx than a monte carlo.

lol more like WRX is the monte carlo killer.

i am much more impressed with a wrx than a monte carlo.

please elaborate, what so impresses you?

def

Def, I am happy for you and your dad. Those 3.8L are potent little suckers. I got a friend who's got a GTP('99), and it's a fun ride. Not only that, but you can also fit 4 people my size(6', 250 lbs) comfortably, which is more than you can say about the Impreza platform.

haha whatabout those nascar monte carlos, they're quite the wrx killer

and they sure can take a left turn

Great review on the Monte, I'm saving up money to buy a "05" Monte Carlo. Damn I cannot wait to get one. I'll show all those Scooby lovers a thing or two. When I start to modify it, ya betta watch out! Sucka's! :banana: :banana: :banana:














































:rolleyes:

lame.

def

Wow...some of you guys have to be 16 years old. Kinda reminds me of the "well my dad can beat up your dad" talk. Nice monte, doug.

and they sure can take a left turn

U can say that again. I never sen a WRX do that before.
:lol:

So what are your dad's plans or is he done? No exhaust?

So what are your dad's plans or is he done? No exhaust?

I think you'll see him do some exhaust work... I keep harping on him to out a big cone K&N in there... actually got something to work too... but he's not sure he wants that yet (the "ecm" is aircooled in the OEM airbox!!)

Anyway, after exhaust... theres 2 things I think he MAY do.

1- pushrods and roller rockers, allows higher revlimit and more aggressive tuning.
2- intercooler. they have this unit thats pretty cheap and works:
http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/products/engine/short_stack_intercooler.htm

and since they are non intercooled as is... it should make a nice upgrade ;)

we'll see though... he may be content running 13s... however I thought so too!

def

All I know is my friend has a GTP with a Borla and it sound sweet and was pretty quick. It was hideous and the inside felt like a rental car, but it sounded good. :)

Wow...some of you guys have to be 16 years old. Kinda reminds me of the "well my dad can beat up your dad" talk. Nice monte, doug.

ur so stupid, i kant beleive ur alowed on the enternet

by the way, im 17 so whatz rong with being 16?
:disco:

Just got finished driving a Monte Carlo rental for a couple days. What a dog. Wet noodle handling. Nasty steering. Gigantic doors. Felt like the freakin' 'love boat'.

the wrx impresses me because it is $25,000 or so, hits 0-60 in 5 seconds barrier stock. and comes with 3 cats on it and still runs 14 stock. wrx takes mods well, give it a straight pipe, boost controller, 100octane, itll smoke a monte carlo in a street race. wrx will also own on the handling, swap out the stock suspension and give it hks coilovers, bam, its overs, the handling will be too good. even if its not aligned.

my friend, hit 11.8 in the 1/4 using stock tranny and stock engine. he did an AWD burnout right before the run. everything on his car is modded, turbo, fuel system, wheels, brakes, intercooler, intake, etc. he left the stock internals and stock tranny. he used NOS, hit 11.8 on 18 inch rims, and old cheap tires getting a 2.0 60ft time.

Just got finished driving a Monte Carlo rental for a couple days. What a dog. Wet noodle handling. Nasty steering. Gigantic doors. Felt like the freakin' 'love boat'.

big differance in a Monte Carlo LS and a Monte Carlo SS Supercharged.... BIG difference.

Its like the Lancer OZ vs EVO VIII! lol!!

def

me and my wrx krew will race anyone out there, and show them watsup, because we are loyal to the subaru crown. Subaru is king! impreza power!

i have stock turbo, and i will smoke any street car that is not awd turbo. if i am too easy, my homi will show u wat a stock tranny and stock internals can do with every bolt on upgraded. WRX POWER! i wanna see if anyone here is down to challenge us. we are in so cal, bring it! muhahahahahah

again, if u do not have AWD turbo, then u will lose, the only way we can lose is against another awd turbo such as an EVO, WRX, or 911 turbo, otherwise, there is not other car that intimidates us. the only kind of car that will intimidate us is if the car is the same blood, All wheel drive, turbo. RWD muscle, bring it on. its time to get embarrassed. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LoL, I find this thread really funny. Someone post up something about a Monte Carlo running a 13.8 in the 1/4 mile and everyone starts bragging about how the WRX is better and how they are more impressed with the WRX.

Get real people, I'm impressed with the Monte Carlo, but of course the WRX is more impressive. Although I think the car looks ghey and it's very ugly, it's still impressive for only 5-700 bucks in mods. I just don't see why people can't respect the car, instead of hating.

me and my wrx krew will race anyone out there, and show them watsup, because we are loyal to the subaru crown. Subaru is king! impreza power!

i have stock turbo, and i will smoke any street car that is not awd turbo. if i am too easy, my homi will show u wat a stock tranny and stock internals can do with every bolt on upgraded. WRX POWER! i wanna see if anyone here is down to challenge us. we are in so cal, bring it! muhahahahahah

LoL, and you my friend are retarded. We've got civic hatchbacks that are pulling 12.9's in the 1/4 mile. They are N/A and could kill a lot of WRX's. I'd like to see you kill a Dodge Viper or an 11 second Cobra, that'd be interesting. Heh, if I was down there I'd love to race you. What kind of 1/4 mile times do you guys pull? And why do you have to be so cocky?

l8ers
-Wes

ur so stupid, i kant beleive ur alowed on the enternet

by the way, im 17 so whatz rong with being 16?
:disco:

I think it's called being immature, and I think you just gave us an example lmao :lol: .

-Wes

again, if u do not have AWD turbo, then u will lose, the only way we can lose is against another awd turbo such as an EVO, WRX, or 911 turbo, otherwise, there is not other car that intimidates us. the only kind of car that will intimidate us is if the car is the same blood, All wheel drive, turbo. RWD muscle, bring it on. its time to get embarrassed. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, you have got to be the biggest retard i know. Any RWD with some mickey thomson ETs will hook up just as well. Trust me on this one. Even on street tires my buddies' 11 second Camaros walk me after getting through the intersection.

wow - i guess i'll try to bring this thread back...

nice times on the monte ss - why didn't they do this when they first came out? pontiac had the GTP why not let chevy have the SS? probably the same reason the GNs and SyTys died out... poor GM management

wow - i guess i'll try to bring this thread back...

Yea... thanks. This thread must have somehow gotten sprinkled with troll dust or something.

and yea also to poor GM brand management. Bob Lutz is trying...

def

Yeah those 3.8 ltrs are the 4G63's of GM IMHO. They can take a beating too.

Fess

The 3.8 is certainly a far better engine then the LS1. Even in the Z06 variant.

C

The 3.8 is certainly a far better engine then the LS1. Even in the Z06 variant

Que? Care to explain?

me and my wrx krew will race anyone out there, and show them watsup, because we are loyal to the subaru crown. Subaru is king! impreza power!

i have stock turbo, and i will smoke any street car that is not awd turbo. if i am too easy, my homi will show u wat a stock tranny and stock internals can do with every bolt on upgraded. WRX POWER! i wanna see if anyone here is down to challenge us. we are in so cal, bring it! muhahahahahah

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/18000/18261_w.jpg

Que? Care to explain?

Are you familiar with the Grand National?

I will explain...

The 3.8 is just a beast of an engine...It flows good and can take lots of boost.

I am absolutely baffled as to why we don't see it more often. My aunt has a 3800 in her Buick and that thing will actually get up and boogie!

LoL, I find this thread really funny. Someone post up something about a Monte Carlo running a 13.8 in the 1/4 mile and everyone starts bragging about how the WRX is better and how they are more impressed with the WRX.

Get real people, I'm impressed with the Monte Carlo, but of course the WRX is more impressive. Although I think the <A TITLE="Click for more information about car" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||cars|AA1VDw">car</A> looks ghey and it's very ugly, it's still impressive for only 5-700 bucks in mods. I just don't see why people can't respect the car, instead of hating.



LoL, and you my friend are retarded. We've got civic hatchbacks that are pulling 12.9's in the 1/4 mile. They are N/A and could kill a lot of WRX's. I'd like to see you kill a Dodge Viper or an 11 second Cobra, that'd be interesting. Heh, if I was down there I'd love to race you. What kind of 1/4 mile times do you guys pull? And why do you have to be so cocky?

l8ers
-Wes

lol i was jus talkin trash, im not serious, sorry if i offended anyone but i like to get outa control and talk trash sometimes to stir up trouble =), im really not that cocky, i respect the monte carlo ss also. i jus like to talk trash cause im very competitive and i like to offend people so they will feel the need to challenge me which i like because the more trash talking, the more i bring out the best in the competition =), its all friendly, i kno i sounded cocky, sorry, i hate being cocky, but sometimes i cant resist the urge to jus talk trash because i love to get a challenge, especially racing.

Are you familiar with the Grand National?

The GM 3.8 has pushed GNs into the 7s. It is a badass motor that has never got the recognition it deserves....

def

btw- everyone vote today? ;)

Dad-
http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Monte%20Carlo-Timeslip-3705.html

Me-
http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-3677.html

:D

def

phew.. 11 second cobra hunh... u mean 11.0 ? or 11.8?

cause i am hitting 11.8 using nos. its funny cause an 11 second cobra needs to be on slicks, my car is daily driven using street tires.

how much is a dodge viper? $100,000 out the door?

something like that right? well lets say its $80,000...with the $50,000+ difference in a wrx vs viper, ofcourse the viper will murder the wrx stock vs stock. money=power. if i wanted to own in racing, spending that kind of money, id spend that $80,000 buying a wrx, then spending the rest on mods, built engine etc... muhahah wat is up now viper. wat is up now cobra on slicks. not only is the straight away my turf after that kind of budget, but as always and especially after that kind of money spent.. the twisties are my turf always muahahaha
::being blunt rude, and yes oh so right:: me trying to bring on competition, dont take personal::: again i only fear my own blood.. AWD turbo,(EVO,WRX,911 Turbo)

by the way dug e, sick ride, really like it. its all about spec C.

phew.. 11 second cobra hunh... u mean 11.0 ? or 11.8?

cause i am hitting 11.8 using nos. its funny cause an 11 second cobra needs to be on slicks, my car is daily driven using street tires.

how much is a dodge viper? $100,000 out the door?

something like that right? well lets say its $80,000...with the $50,000+ difference in a wrx vs viper, ofcourse the viper will murder the wrx stock vs stock. money=power. if i wanted to own in racing, spending that kind of money, id spend that $80,000 buying a wrx, then spending the rest on mods, built engine etc... muhahah wat is up now viper. wat is up now cobra on slicks. not only is the straight away my turf after that kind of budget, but as always and especially after that kind of money spent.. the twisties are my turf always muahahaha
::being blunt rude, and yes oh so right:: me trying to bring on competition, dont take personal::: again i only fear my own blood.. AWD turbo,(EVO,WRX,911 Turbo)
"Rabble rabble rabble!"

~v6

I think it's awesome that your dad pulled those times in the Monte with so few dollars spent. I find it so funny how people think the WRX and Subarus are the greatest cars ever. Personally I'm getting sick of my car and don't think WRX's and STI's are special at all. There are tons of cars I would rather have. They are decent for the money, but they don't do anything especially well, making them a rather blah and boring car, plus they are ugly.

George

phew.. 11 second cobra hunh... u mean 11.0 ? or 11.8?

cause i am hitting 11.8 using nos. its funny cause an 11 second cobra needs to be on slicks, my car is daily driven using street tires.

how much is a dodge viper? $100,000 out the door?

something like that right? well lets say its $80,000...with the $50,000+ difference in a wrx vs viper, ofcourse the viper will murder the wrx stock vs stock. money=power. if i wanted to own in racing, spending that kind of money, id spend that $80,000 buying a wrx, then spending the rest on mods, built engine etc... muhahah wat is up now viper. wat is up now cobra on slicks. not only is the straight away my turf after that kind of budget, but as always and especially after that kind of money spent.. the twisties are my turf always muahahaha
::being blunt rude, and yes oh so right:: me trying to bring on competition, dont take personal::: again i only fear my own blood.. AWD turbo,(EVO,WRX,911 Turbo)


silly, silly kid! :huh:

what in the hell are you eating :eek:

I think it's awesome that your dad pulled those times in the Monte with so few dollars spent. I find it so funny how people think the WRX and Subarus are the greatest cars ever. Personally I'm getting sick of my car and don't think WRX's and STI's are special at all. There are tons of cars I would rather have. They are decent for the money, but they don't do anything especially well, making them a rather blah and boring car, plus they are ugly.

George

I don't think Subarus are the greatest ever, especially since there are so many other cars that you can buy for $22k that will run a 14 flat, handle well, get good gas mileage, handle the dirt/gravel roads, and not give up anything when it's not summer.

There are tons of other cars I'd rather have but none of them cost under $40k. I guess a Monte Carlo will be on your next shopping list since they're so special.... :rolleyes:

not the same

i know i sounded like an idiot. i know.

BUT bankie and sonicyellow sound even more retarded. WRX's are special. what other cars can compare? tell me? a WRX isnt $22k, its more about $24k. so many other cars that can handle well run 14 flat? ***?!? only three cars i know can run close to 14 stock is the srt4 and the WRX,s2000 but kinda pricey. what so many other cars?? bankie and sonicyellow must be young teenagers that dont kno shiet about cars. a boxer engine with turbo AWD is more special than a lot of cars out there. and for its affordability, that makes it even more special. what other car would u rather have? u dont even say which car because the WRX will own it.

BANG4BOOST- I think you are the one that is a teenager. If you look in my profile you can see that I am 22. I've done alot of work on my car, including a motor swap, which I did with a friend of mine, so don't tell me I don't know **** about car. I'm just not really that enthralled with subarus. They are ok, but nothing more than that, there are plenty of cars that are and can be made faster and plenty of cars that handle and/or can handle better. Big deal you threw a bottle of nitrous in your car and now you pull an 11.8, lol. It's not like your car is an 11 sec car. If you like being cocky to get challenges outta people drive 3k miles and I'll race ya. When your bottle runs out and your running 13's I'll be the one laughing. A real car enthusiast can appreciate cars other than their own :rolleyes:

2 guys in a Monte Carlo SS were taught a very big lesson today on my way to work. I was not impressed at all. - not a street racing post - I didn't say what kind of lesson. :D

BANG4BOOST- When your bottle runs out and your running 13's I'll be the one laughing. A real car enthusiast can appreciate cars other than their own :rolleyes:


straight up OWN3D!

2 guys in a Monte Carlo SS were taught a very big lesson today on my way to work. I was not impressed at all. - not a street racing post - I didn't say what kind of lesson. :D

Keep in mind fellas, theres Monte SS's and Monte SS Supercharged. Big difference in power/drivetrain.

My dads SS Supercharged trapped 92-93 bone stock,... thats more than enough power to hurt a WRX owners pride from a roll (stock to stock).

def

BANG4BOOST- I think you are the one that is a teenager. If you look in my profile you can see that I am 22. I've done alot of work on my <A TITLE="Click for more information about car" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||cars|AA1VDw">car</A>, including a motor swap, which I did with a friend of mine, so don't tell me I don't know **** about car. I'm just not really that enthralled with subarus. They are ok, but nothing more than that, there are plenty of cars that are and can be made faster and plenty of cars that handle and/or can handle better. Big deal you threw a bottle of nitrous in your car and now you pull an 11.8, lol. It's not like your car is an 11 sec car. If you like being cocky to get challenges outta people drive 3k miles and I'll race ya. When your bottle runs out and your running 13's I'll be the one laughing. A real car enthusiast can appreciate cars other than their own :rolleyes:

very well said my friend.. but you are mistaken, i DO appreciate cars other than my own, as i was saying before i was talking trash, messing around, stirring up trouble, i dont mean it, i dont take it personal, im jus playin around,

jus thought it was quite sad that u own a WRX but u seem to praise any other cars except your own car that u bought. why did u buy a wrx in then if it didnt enthrall u? wat other car do you want? a real car enthusiast would actually appreciate the WRX more than just being an "ok, nothing more than that" car. :rolleyes:

who in the world with nos would challenge someone to a drag race, and show up with an empty nos bottle? :lol:

BANG4BOOST - I see that you are not familiar with sarcasm.

My dads SS Supercharged trapped 92-93 bone stock,... thats more than enough power to hurt a WRX owners pride from a roll (stock to stock).

def

A good driver in a stock WRX can trap in the 95-96mph range. Why would the WRX driver's pride be hurt by that.

A good driver in a stock WRX can trap in the 95-96mph range. Why would the WRX driver's pride be hurt by that.

show me ANYWHERE where a stock wrx with no lightening mods or any track tricks what so ever ran in th 95-96 mph range.

a stock wrx runs more like 90-93...94 if your lucky on just the right night. my car trapped 91.7 stock, i considered my myself a more then decent driver...i have seen, met, and have friends that all trap at 92 and below in thier stock wrxs.

BANKIE- i see that your not familiar with being LAME.

BANKIE- i see that your not familiar with being LAME.


:lol:

A good driver in a stock WRX can trap in the 95-96mph range.

Not really.

def

:lol:

:lol: :lol:

Your on crack! The WRX can trap around 95-96mph in the 1/4 stock.

false.

def

key word= "can"

def

damnit im sick of "the wrx can do this, the wrx can do that". F-IN prove it. show me a video of your friend or better yet, YOU driving your stock wrx to a 96 mph quarter trap. how much you wanna bet these chumps have never even been to a track, they just hear internet ricers talking over on cardomain and autmatically beileve it as a fact.
99.99% of the wrx out there CAN NOT achieve a 96 mph trap (the occasional evo goes that slow).

if super sayion neo is being sarcastic, which i hope he is, dont mind what i said. (usually sarcastic comments end with a smiley):)

Ok, hows this... my dads completely stock LOOKING/Sounding Monte Carlo SS Supercharged that actually isn't stock and traps almost 100 mph.... the way it sits.... will hurt the pride of owners with stock WRXs AND EVOs.... from a roll....

heck even MILDLY tuned WRXs...

Is that enough conditions to be accurate... have I covered all the bases?

:rolleyes:

I believe the entire point of this thread has been completely overlooked. At any rate, make sure you vote today, and everyday! :)

def

just to clarify, my post was not directed at you dug

edit*- i think when my car just had a downpipe, and cobb stg 2($600, 400 for reflash, 200 for dp used)...would have been a really good run for you dads car, i never took it to the track. but i put a pretty good hurt on an s2k (they run around 97-98 ?). no doubt, your dads ride is pimp, i totally wouldnt expect 100 mph impalla if i was to roll up to it on the road. i wouldnt even think that even if it did have exhuast.

damnit im sick of "the wrx can do this, the wrx can do that". F-IN prove it. show me a video of your friend or better yet, YOU driving your stock wrx to a 96 mph quarter trap. how much you wanna bet these chumps have never even been to a track, they just hear internet ricers talking over on cardomain and autmatically beileve it as a fact.
99.99% of the wrx out there CAN NOT achieve a 96 mph trap (the occasional evo goes that slow).

if super sayion neo is being sarcastic, which i hope he is, dont mind what i said. (usually sarcastic comments end with a smiley):)

Just starting some fire which I'm going to put out. I don't own a WRX. Can anyone back me up on this that a WRX can pull 95-96 mph trap for 1/4? If not you win. :)

Anyway both of these cars are in a league of there own. Overall, I know that the WRX is a better practical and all around car than the Monte. Which car is faster, depends on how much money your going to put in?

Oh and by the way, they should revive the Grand Nationals.

p.s. It's SupersayianNeo not super sayion neo :p

p.s. It's SupersayianNeo not super sayion neo :p

:p
i'd rather be supersayian2gohan :devil:

I think 96-97 mph may be a bit high. In my 02 rex when I was 1000% bone stock I went a 14.04 @ 95.43mph. Then with just an uppie I went 13.91 @ 97.66mph. Then add a catback and a MBC set to 15.5psi in 4th and went 13.50 @ 101.92mph. And yes I could drive the hell out of that car.

Fess

I have to say this thread has gone well know were. I have never heard so much trash talking in my life bang4boost. You are most likly one of these people that throw a intake, nos, and exhaust on your car and then calls yourself a tuner. I respect the fact that you love the wrx but give it a rest. I have to be honest. I know a few people on these forums that have 400 to 500hp wrx that would hand your crew there a$$es in the 1/4. So do us a favor and grow up. :disco:

how the **** do you trap so high, give us some pointers?

Even w/ the junk in this thread, I'm still impressed def.

how the **** do you trap so high, give us some pointers?

I don't know about others but my answer is lots of wheels spin, well lots for awd anyway. Other than that I just used your everyday bounce the rev's between 4-5k then when the yellow drops floor the gas and flash the rpms to 6k while I let out the clutch. I always thought the wheel spin would take some stress off the drivetrain. It worked too, never had 1 tranny problem in 35k with that car.

Fess

now this wheelspin will let my car trap higher?

Dad:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Monte%20Carlo-Timeslip-3705.html

Me:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-3677.html

VOTE! :)

def

your wrx got my vote...

nice shot in SCC btw - didn't realize until now...
did you purposely not mention the twin-scroll setup? must be a gambler :lol:

your wrx got my vote...

nice shot in SCC btw - didn't realize until now...
did you purposely not mention the twin-scroll setup? must be a gambler :lol:

There were quite a few details they left out in regards to my set-up. They printed the gist I suppose.

Somehow they also got my location wrong. Not sure how that happened. My works headquarters are in Newark, DE... but I actually work in Elkton, MD.... and I live in Bel Air, MD. Somewhere something got crossed...

def

I just sold my GTP I had a lot of mods mine made 438.2hp to the wheels.With a pully and thermo the cars power goes up by alot.I had a full race motor it's just the car is so heavy.But now I got the WRX and love the AWD again.

bout tree fiddy

Here are a couple from a quick 2 minute Google search.

C&D 96mph - http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=3615&page_number=3

R&T 95.4mph - http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=124&page_number=2&preview=


Just because everyone doesn't run a 96mph trap doesn't mean that the car is not capable of it. I'm willing to bet that there are Monte Carlo SSs drivers that aren't running a 92-93mph trap. Either way a WRX should trap 94mph on the low end of the scale which would be faster than a stock MCSS.

Magazines aren't always accurate. These are the people that get times like 13.9 out of the last Camaro/Firebirds, or 13.3's out of the 2003 Mustang Cobra. Sometimes they're spot on, but many times they're pretty far off. Plus, they very rarely use an actual drag strip.

Anyone remember when HOT ROD got a 13-something @ 109 in the 2003 Cobra? .01 slower than the STI? Did anyone fail to mention that HOT ROD also tested the 2003 Cobra to run a 12.93 at 114.50?

;)

True but the trap range for a WRX is still higher than the 93mph from the SS.

Dug-e-fresh,

Do you work close to WLGore in Elkton? Is it Blue with FMC?

Sergej

the cobra needs slicks to hit 12's.

Dug-e-fresh,

Do you work close to WLGore in Elkton? Is it Blue with FMC?

Sergej

Yep, thats me. I work FOR WLGore.

def

True but the trap range for a WRX is still higher than the 93mph from the SS.

this is ONE SS (S) were talking about. surely there are ones faster and slower.

def

the cobra needs slicks to hit 12's.
Unless by slicks you mean 'bone stock Goodyear tires', you're wrong.

lol, robvas wat r u smoking?

"bone stock good year tires" arent slicks buddy.

"Any hardcore V-8, rear-drive musclecar guy raised on tire smoke and high octane is likely approaching this comparison with one thing in mind: the dragstrip results. With the Cobra, a few things are clear. In stock form, with stock tires, the car is ludicrously traction limited. Drop the hammer at anything above an idle and the Goodyear F1s will spin forever, and even judicious pedaling of the throttle and slipping of the clutch doesn't result in anything approaching satisfying 60-foot times. But the Cobra's trap speeds of close to 110mph foreshadow its easy 12-second potential with stick tires and possibly a gear swap....with an abysmal 2.25 second 60-foot tiem that's fairly typical of stock radials" -HOT ROD magazine

lol, robvas wat r u smoking?

"bone stock good year tires" arent slicks buddy.

"Any hardcore V-8, rear-drive musclecar guy raised on tire smoke and high octane is likely approaching this comparison with one thing in mind: the dragstrip results. With the Cobra, a few things are clear. In stock form, with stock tires, the car is ludicrously traction limited. Drop the hammer at anything above an idle and the Goodyear F1s will spin forever, and even judicious pedaling of the throttle and slipping of the clutch doesn't result in anything approaching satisfying 60-foot times. But the Cobra's trap speeds of close to 110mph foreshadow its easy 12-second potential with stick tires and possibly a gear swap....with an abysmal 2.25 second 60-foot tiem that's fairly typical of stock radials" -HOT ROD magazine


:rolleyes:

http://www.hotrod.com/roadtests/79878/index.html

HEYLLP! I am being beat-up by an ungly ass camaro!! Vote for me and my dad!!! PLEASE!!

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Monte%20Carlo-Timeslip-3705.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-3677.html

def

My last car was a 2000 GTP and it was pretty quick. 3.4" pulley, ecu, CAI, blah, blah, blah. I liked the HUD and comfy seat but it did not handle at all. It was a one wheel wonder and I could spin the right front tire until it would explode{probably}. It was quick off the line but fell on it's face after 40 mph.

The BEST thing about the car was the Pontiac dealer thought the mods that I completed were cool. There was never any "you know you have no warranty, right?"

My second favorite car that I have owned.
http://cerberusdigital.com/images/GTP2.jpg

The 3800 has been around forever. It's a beast. It is essentially the same block used as a V8 for decades with a few cyls shaved off. This was the block in the Grand National. I had a naturally aspirated 3.8L in a Century wagon and kept blowing up transmissions. GM offered the 3.8L in that car for just a year or two because of that problem and replaced it with the 3100. I believe it. I don't like it, but I believe it.

me and my wrx krew will race anyone out there, and show them watsup, because we are loyal to the subaru crown. Subaru is king! impreza power! Sounds like something you'd read on www.speedmagazine.com (waste). :lol: It's always cool to hear about "other" cars modding and performing well.

-Charles-

BTW- My dad just bettered his time:

13.866 @ 100.31, that with a worse 60ft, 2.188!!

def