First off...the car feels :banana: , first three gears are now all of a sudden way too short.

Results all there #'s r on a DYNO DYNAMICS unit, which reads low...STIs baseline @ around 215 hp.

STAGE 1
290 hp
320 Torque

STAGE 2
342 hp
339 Torque @ 21 lbs of boot.

The cars hits 14#s of boost by 3300 rpm :) I'll try to post my dyno chart, but the torque and power curves could not be better...

SOLID 11 second car.

What's a stage two?

What's a stage two?

XEDE, TBE, injectors, fuel pump, FP-Green.

Smoking numbers dude!

ohh...green, i thought this was stock turbo...heh.

Sounds like fun. Any dyno graphs perhaps?

342 is very low numbers for that turbo.

Not really...pump gas, dyno dynamics. I'd say they are pretty spot on. Let's not turn this into another dyno argument.

Nice numbers i'm sure the car feels good.

342 is very low numbers for that turbo.


if you read the top and read what he said.. its really is Good numbers. I dont know about 11's in pump .. but def with race gas

Great numbers!

Is that with a FMIC? Or the stock top mount.

When does it hit full boost?

Thanks,

Kevin

SOLID 11 second car.

Great numbers on DD but lets see that 11 second run. A solid 11 second STi will should run 11s consistently, not an 11.9X two out of seven runs. Take that bad boy to the track.

Nice #'s

is this on 91 octane or did u bump it up?

actually those are really good #'s. That dyno does read low but even if we don't want to start a dyno war, look at the improvement from stock baseline to what he has now. Congrats man. What boost controller you using? Is it a internal WG setup? How stable is the the boost?

342 is very low numbers for that turbo.
Dont forget that in Cali they only get 91 octane, those are superb numbers if they are on pump gas.

In a preivous post, he stated that his stage 1"
STAGE 1
290 hp
320 Torque

Is on 118octane, and stated that his stage 2 will be tuned on 125octane.. although I didn't read the rest of the post-- I think he used race gas for his tune, not pump.


Current mods on my car:
Xede
Helix Catless Exhuast
Dynoe'd
290 hp
320 Torque on 118 octane race fuel, ran a 12.5 1/4 mile

New mods
FP GREEN TURBO
New Turbo hose
850's
K&N TYphoon intake
Fuel pump
125 octane tune

Any guesses on the new powerout put????
ALL runs made on a Dyno dynamics unit.....
I'm goin to the shop Wed. to have it dyno'd


C

Looking forward to seeing a baseline + stage 1 + stage 2 dynosheet comparison on 91 octane

So the 342 was on 91 or pump gas? Or 125?

So the 342 was on 91 or pump gas? Or 125?

Yes do tell..

Sorry.i was stuck at work so i couldn't post...

On pump 91 the car made 290 HP on Vishnu dyno/ so about 335 AWD DYNOJET hp @ only 16#'s of boost

On C16 it made 342 hp/395 AWD DYNOJET hp@ 21#'s of boost

All runs were made with the stock INTAKE/INTERCOOLER/HEADERS...

From 5800 RPM up to redline, where the stock turbo'd STI sucks ass, now it kicks Major ass..The dyno charts should be up soon.

When it cools down i'll be out @ the racetrack
11.6's-11.8's is what the car will run.

BTW i know dynos correct for temp etc...it was 100 degrees+ in the shop when the car was being dynoed..the car felt way stronger after it cooled down a bit.

Any CEL or other problems? I ran a guy today at the track that had perrin FMIC and FP 20G and smoked him with my Stage 1 c16 map. He was installed and tuned by Vishnu and he was running a CEL and flashing crusie.

Any CEL or other problems? I ran a guy today at the track that had perrin FMIC and FP 20G and smoked him with my Stage 1 c16 map. He was installed and tuned by Vishnu and he was running a CEL and flashing crusie.
NONE...i've had my stage 1 previous for 4 months, and never had any problems

STi Smallblock??

Broken link.....

Any CEL or other problems? I ran a guy today at the track that had perrin FMIC and FP 20G and smoked him with my Stage 1 c16 map. He was installed and tuned by Vishnu and he was running a CEL and flashing crusie.

Yup there is fueling probs with his setup we are having him in Tues. Dont know if the Perrin 800ccs or what/ PEs are great- The CEL and flashing cruise is a catless code FWIW Also nothing on that was a stage 2 or Vishnu save xede

David

Broken link.....


:lol: Give it up Mark

unimpressed

Yup there is fueling probs with his setup we are having him in Tues. Dont know if the Perrin 800ccs or what/ PEs are great- The CEL and flashing cruise is a catless code FWIW Also nothing on that was a stage 2 or Vishnu save xede

David

Nope, nothing on Eric's car was stage 2 but there was definately something wrong with it. He is pretty upset but I guess I would be pissed too if I dropped 8K into my car and got spanked by a Stage 1 STi (and really, when you see the guy in your rear view, its a spanking).

FWIW, it seems that the VISHNU (plug ;) ) Stage 1 on C16 can really be competitive. You guy shoud put this on your website, I have tested it on 2 STi all with GREAT results.

I've been eagerly awaiting these results because it would be a good comparison to the results with my setup - same type of dyno:

http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=77210

However with a different, but similarly sized turbo, exde vs ECUTEK, and few flow mods vs. several. I made 349.3 whp on a DD with the final tune, with a nice fat powerband, see the link above. The scaling is very different on the graphs, but when you comapare them, you can see the results are virtually identical. However, mine is on 100 octane achived using torco additive, not leaded race gas.

My torque peak comes on a hair later, so it seems that Green is slightly quicker spooling than my XS500 (same as a AVO 450, a GT30r-10). The green has a 49 lb/min compressor, compared to the XS's 44 lb/min - the XS has a much larger exhaust side, which makes it lag more, but impoves top end and makes it easier to max out the compressor, which we did.

I also have more flow mods on my car, which certainly helps power a bit at these levels. This includes:

APS 70mm CAI
AVO turbo inlet pipe
Ported TGV risers/intake manifold
MRT TMIC

All these things definitely give an edge when you're trying to deal with a compressor of limited capacity. I'm still on a totally stock intake manifold and uppipe - I keep wanting to pull it all out and port mach and heat wrap it, but I never seem to get around to it.

At the end of the day tho, I'm quite happy to be up 60 whp in street trim over the vishnu setup (I run the torco stuff all the time).

Kevin

That sounds like a good combo u have......the idea of a better intercooler and turbo pipe did come up after the dyno runs, but for now i'm real happy with the outcome, later i may want more.

On the race map, my car only doin 21#'s, which i thought was low, considerin i see guys with greens always pullin 24-27#'s of boost...There was more still left in the car, but for now runnin on lower boost is better...i can't afford to blow the motor up quite yet...and Shiv tunes always with some margin of saftey left...


Any track times with ur car?

Mark

That sounds like a good combo u have......the idea of a better intercooler and turbo pipe did come up after the dyno runs, but for now i'm real happy with the outcome, later i may want more.

On the race map, my car only doin 21#'s, which i thought was low, considerin i see guys with greens always pullin 24-27#'s of boost...There was more still left in the car, but for now runnin on lower boost is better...i can't afford to blow the motor up quite yet...and Shiv tunes always with some margin of saftey left...


Any track times with ur car?

Mark

I haven't been out to the track yet, but intend to extremely soon. I'll be going throughout the fall and tweaking various things, though engine wise the car should stay pretty much the same.

I think with an intake, FMIC, and ported TGV's, your car will hit 400 whp on leaded race gas. Will the motor hold? Who knows, but part of it depends how often you run that level of power. I run at 350 whp setup on the street all the time, and make plenty of 5th gear pulls (you saw the boost I run) but it's been less than a month and only a couple thousand miles. My stock cluch is holding, but I never drag launch on the street.

I find myself looking as to what the next step is, and when. A bigger turbo on the same setup, w/different tune? A more responsive turbo on the same setup, same tune? Go bigger and to a FMIC, but take the hit in lag, and worry about the motor? Decisions, decisons. Fo now though I'll just stick with the same thing, and focus on pulling more weight out of the car (at least 100 lb more) and tweaking the suspension.

Kevin

Did Shiv tune this? I would expect a lot more then 342 out of a Green on C16.

Any track times with ur car?
http://ken-gilbert.com/images/newfunny/i-zee-na-ting.jpg
:lol: :lol: :devil: ;)

Did Shiv tune this? I would expect a lot more then 342 out of a Green on C16.


Why? We are not talking DSM hotsides here we still have the subie 3 feet of header and uppipe and smallish contorted hotside. Maybe we will make more we only went to 21 psi but then we have to see if the STi has the motor to push 400 AWHP (Our Dyno) daily. This is 20+ more and lots more torque than a 911 Turbo. But yea Im not impressed :lol:

David

I haven't been out to the track yet, but intend to extremely soon.
I'll be going throughout the fall and tweaking various things, though engine wise the car should stay pretty much the same.

I think with an intake, FMIC, and ported TGV's, your car will hit 400 whp on leaded race gas. Will the motor hold? Who knows, but part of it depends how often you run that level of power. I run at 350 whp setup on the street all the time, and make plenty of 5th gear pulls (you saw the boost I run) but it's been less than a month and only a couple thousand miles. My stock cluch is holding, but I never drag launch on the street.

I find myself looking as to what the next step is, and when. A bigger turbo on the same setup, w/different tune? A more responsive turbo on the same setup, same tune? Go bigger and to a FMIC, but take the hit in lag, and worry about the motor? Decisions, decisons. Fo now though I'll just stick with the same thing, and focus on pulling more weight out of the car (at least 100 lb more) and tweaking the suspension.

Kevin

:lol: :banana: :disco: :lol: :banana: :disco: :lol:
~v6

seriously you two need to stop.

seriously you two need to stop.
and you would be....?

~v6

When it cools down i'll be out @ the racetrack
11.6's-11.8's is what the car will run.

Why don't you run it before you sung it [sic].

On C16 it made 342 hp/395 AWD DYNOJET hp@ 21#'s of boost

:rolleyes: Until you dyno on a Dynojet, you still make 342whp.

cant wait for mine :devil:

and you would be....?

~v6

Someone whos went faster then you AND RR in the 1/4 in a subaru.. ;)

Why don't you run it before you sung it [sic].



:rolleyes: Until you dyno on a Dynojet, you still make 342whp.


This isnt the guy to question driving skills. Still got that second motor in that 12 sec wrx? Were have you been to a dynojet or is Marion now a dynojet?

David

Someone whos went faster then you AND RR in the 1/4 in a subaru.. ;)
ohh it burns!!! it burns!!! :devil:

:lol: ;)

~v6

ohh it burns!!! it burns!!! :devil:

:lol: ;)

~v6
:lol:

Why? We are not talking DSM hotsides here we still have the subie 3 feet of header and uppipe and smallish contorted hotside. Maybe we will make more we only went to 21 psi but then we have to see if the STi has the motor to push 400 AWHP (Our Dyno) daily. This is 20+ more and lots more torque than a 911 Turbo. But yea Im not impressed :lol:

David
I was just curious who did the tuning.

double post

This isnt the guy to question driving skills. Still got that second motor in that 12 sec wrx? Were have you been to a dynojet or is Marion now a dynojet?

David

For one, you don't know me. Secondly,what does me having or not having been to a dynojet (which I have) have to do with the fact that he posted number he didn't put down? Simple, nothing. Save you pathetic attempts at smoke and mirrors and your pathetic attempt at a diss based on e-assuptions (incorrect I might add). And yes, my lighty modded WRX is still running high 12's with 15psi @3450 race weight.

-C
11.5@126 @-9000ft BSL :rolleyes: (get me?)

For one, you don't know me. Secondly,what does me having or not having been to a dynojet (which I have) have to do with the fact that he posted number he didn't put down? Simple, nothing. Save you pathetic attempts at smoke and mirrors and your pathetic attempt at a diss based on e-assuptions (incorrect I might add). And yes, my lighty modded WRX is still running high 12's with 15psi @3450 race weight.

-C
11.5@126 @-9000ft BSL :rolleyes: (get me?)
I wouldnt worry about it, pretty much par for the course as far as Vishnu goes.

Hi guys,
Like just about all Stg 1 cars we've tuned Mark's was running 110mph trap speeds a few months back the EVO vs. STi shootout at Sac. This was on his 280whp Stg 1 race gas map. Now, with the Stg 2, his car should run considerably quicker. While he peak hp difference is "only" 60whp, the difference at 7000rpm is nearly 90whp, IIRC. Time will tell but I suspect he'll be deep into the teens. Until then, let the bench racing begin! ;)

Shiv

unimpressed

thanks ok :banana:

I was just curious who did the tuning.
1234

Or is Shiv to busy out trying to fight other members. :rolleyes:

I really freaking wish that the members on this board would STOP giving shiv such a hard time. I know what the complaints are and some of them may be valid but if every time he comes on this board and gets flamed, we will see less and less of him here.

I personally don't know who is the "best tuner" but what I do like is competition and information. If we alienate him here (nasioc is infamous for this) then we loose another great resource. Can't we all just get along?

I agree... all this childish bickering is very annoying. :rolleyes:

I really freaking wish that the members on this board would STOP giving shiv such a hard time. I know what the complaints are and some of them may be valid but if every time he comes on this board and gets flamed, we will see less and less of him here.

I personally don't know who is the "best tuner" but what I do like is competition and information. If we alienate him here (nasioc is infamous for this) then we loose another great resource. Can't we all just get along?

well said, thank you.

Can't we all just get along?

Tried that for a while before you got here... didnt work out too well. Can you show me where he is being flamed? He has been asked questions... but I wouldnt call that flaming.

Tried that for a while before you got here... didnt work out too well. Can you show me where he is being flamed? He has been asked questions... but I wouldnt call that flaming.
I just wanted to know if Shiv is still doing the tuning or if he took his car somewhere else for the tune.

I know for some time people were waitin for a STI stage 2 kit.
We all know for a while Shiv and gang focused on EVOs more then Subbys.
and maybe their customer service from what i have heard was not the best.....But NOW things are different.The shop has under went a evolution.

The performance BAR will be once again raised for Subarus....

The days of bolt on 11 second EVO's and STIs that drive perfect and get 25 MPG are here...all because of good tuners/shops like xx tuning/vishnu/matrix/turbo trix...

Lets all hope we can keep up :lol:

I just wanted to know if Shiv is still doing the tuning or if he took his car somewhere else for the tune.

I did the tuning. I thought that point was reasonably clear. 340whp is about all that turbo will support with the restrictive factory IC.

NEWSFLASH.............Time to put or shutup...The car will be run TONIGHT @ Sac. Raceway
That should clear some things up
I'm inviting anybody who cares to come out....

BTW a STAGE 1++ EVO with 340 WHP will be tryyin to hit 11's also

Good Day

Mark

NEWSFLASH.............Time to put or shutup...The car will be run TONIGHT @ Sac. Raceway
That should clear some things up
I'm inviting anybody who cares to come out....

BTW a STAGE 1++ EVO with 340 WHP will be tryyin to hit 11's also

Good Day

Mark

cant wait

good luck MGSTI

Temps will be 90+...but 11's can still be had.

I did the tuning. I thought that point was reasonably clear. 340whp is about all that turbo will support with the restrictive factory IC.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=627543

Junior is using 93, I know it is a little more modded, but didnt you tune this on C16?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=627543

Junior is using 93, I know it is a little more modded, but didnt you tune this on C16?

Different dyno type. At turbotrix (where I'll be next weekend for a big EVO/WRX dyno day), our Stage 1 EVOs make 310-320whp. On our dyno, they rarely make more than 250-255whp. This shouldn't by news to anyone...

shiv

Forget the numbers, he is running 24psi on 93, you are only running 21 on C16.

uh... okay?

The performance BAR will be once again raised for Subarus....

hahahhahahhah


Wait your not joking are you... :lol:





Pisst... the green has been out for a good while now and has been on a whole lot of STis before thies. So what bar are we talking about?

subscribing

hahahhahahhah


Wait your not joking are you... :lol:





Pisst... the green has been out for a good while now and has been on a whole lot of STis before thies. So what bar are we talking about?

Dunno this one? http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=628207

;)

David

unimpressed


:lol:

Did Shiv tune this? I would expect a lot more then 342 out of a Green on C16.

How many "Green" users have gone into the 11s ;) ? with a fairly stock STi (AFAIK it still uses the stock TMIC, intake pipe and headers).

bench racers... all of them ;) Yep, the car only has our 3" turboback, FP Green, PE injectors, fuel pump and XEDE. Stock headers, stock IC, stock intake box and stock filter. What's the quickest recorded ET for an STi, btw?

Shiv

bench racers... all of them ;) Yep, the car only has our 3" turboback, FP Green, PE injectors, fuel pump and XEDE. Stock headers, stock IC, stock intake box and stock filter. What's the quickest recorded ET for an STi, btw?

Shiv
that would've been the fastest subaru at englishtown. :D

that would've been the fastest subaru at englishtown. :D

I knew we should have shipped Mark to the East Coast!

jewpac-- Dynos are tools. Getting all hung up about how much boost someone else is running on what kind of octane doesn't tell you much, if anything.

totheherbs-- The fact is that we have a bolt-on 11s Sti upgrade package that doesn't involve swapping in MAF pipes, upgraded intercoolers, additional boost controllers, etc,. I think that's a pretty big deal.

mlambert-- Take your hating elsewhere. Somewhere where people runs 12s with 400+whp and then make excuses. :lol:

Cheers,
shiv

hey shiv, go choke on something and make the world a better place

hey shiv, go choke on something and make the world a better place


Wow thats so grown up and telling. Unimpressed


David

I'm also unimpressed. :p

shiv

http://www.cosplayuniverse.com/ga/albums/userpics/10001/132_3239.jpg

When you can't beat 'em, act crazy :huh:

Shiv, how was the fit with the FP Green and the TMIC? Did you upgrade the elbow hose at the compressor outlet?


Good job on tuning that beast BTW!!


-Matt