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Machshock
09-15-2004, 04:39 PM
I own a 2004 srt-4. But I'm selling it in may, Then I'm buying a new car (STI). I have several questions.

1. Is the body of the 2006 STI gona bE DIFFRENT?
2. is the 2006 gona be slower then the 2005?
3. Is the 2006 price gona be more then the 2005?
4. Should i wait the 4 extra months and just get the 2006 STI or should i rush into it and just get the 2005?

If anyone has a picture of the 2006 model of the STI please post it here. I don't want to see that video game picture either. I want a official picture of the 2006 STI. and please answer these questions because i really want a STI bad?

soso3
09-15-2004, 04:44 PM
1.) No
2.) No
3.) A little, possibly
4.) If you want to pay more. You're always better off buying (current model) near the end of teh model year.

And bad thread title. :rolleyes: ;)

Machshock
09-15-2004, 09:01 PM
Any other comments? some one please help m eout and tel me your opinion

Machshock
09-15-2004, 10:37 PM
please help with this

munkis
09-15-2004, 11:17 PM
your not going to see any 2006 my pics untill mid 05.

the way subaru gives face lifts to their vehicles, it could very well look different but I doubt. Most companys will do a 4 year run on a body style with minor enhancements inbetween.

you going to have to wait and see.

Prices should stay around the same.

Jay

hondaslayer
09-15-2004, 11:19 PM
B4rn

SBoneWRX
09-15-2004, 11:19 PM
1.) No
2.) No
3.) A little, possibly
4.) If you want to pay more. You're always better off buying (current model) near the end of teh model year.

And bad thread title. :rolleyes: ;)

My sentiments exactly.

vz64
09-15-2004, 11:33 PM
Sorry, but to obtain speculation-free answers for your 1-3 you gonna wait another 5-6 months... Just go and buy 05 - I just did a week ago and no regrets!

TheMileHighWRX
09-16-2004, 12:07 AM
I'm hoping that Subaru will have an answer to the EVO MR in the form of a more tricked out STi.

I'll be waiting till the 06's come out before I make a decision on going STi or getting a new Evo. My WRX is faster in a straight line than a stock STi, but it's lacking in the suspension/tranny, etc department, and I want to upgrade.

MattDell
09-16-2004, 01:01 AM
You know that the SRT-4 is fastAr!, right?

Basshead
09-16-2004, 01:03 AM
maybe they'll actually make the damn dashlight colors match for 2006...but probably not... :rolleyes:

subimatt
09-16-2004, 11:19 AM
You know that the SRT-4 is fastAr!, right?

LOL :lol:

Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 12:12 PM
I own a 2004 srt-4. But I'm selling it in may, Then I'm buying a new car (STI). I have several questions.

1. Is the body of the 2006 STI gona bE DIFFRENT?
2. is the 2006 gona be slower then the 2005?
3. Is the 2006 price gona be more then the 2005?
4. Should i wait the 4 extra months and just get the 2006 STI or should i rush into it and just get the 2005?

If anyone has a picture of the 2006 model of the STI please post it here. I don't want to see that video game picture either. I want a official picture of the 2006 STI. and please answer these questions because i really want a STI bad?

1. Yes, There will be a face lift. Pictures are floating around Subaru Execs. I close friend of mine is a GM at a dealership in IL and the regional sales rep told him to stock up on 05's because people don't seem to like the 06's. He was told that the 06 was a "Abortion"
2. doubt it
3. Yes,prices always go up. Look at the 04 to 05 STI
4. No

Beaverboy
09-16-2004, 12:54 PM
1. Yes, There will be a face lift. Pictures are floating around Subaru Execs. I close friend of mine is a GM at a dealership in IL and the regional sales rep told him to stock up on 05's because people don't seem to like the 06's. He was told that the 06 was a "Abortion"

Is that the word you use when you don't know the term "Abomination"? :confused: An "abortion" is when something is ended.

That concept face lift hasn't been verified as the '06 look. It's a very likely direction for a future impreza styling exercise (the yoke grill is already confirmed) but there's been nothing confirmed otherwise.

Your GM friend is looking up his info the same places we are... don't jump the gun just because he happens to use the English language poorly.

Machshock, when we know, it'll be posted. We aren't going to find the information just because you demand it. Get over yourself and look into the 2005 STi if you want one. If you wait, the cars will always be better... but if you wait you'll never have a better car.

soso3
09-16-2004, 01:33 PM
Is that the word you use when you don't know the term "Abomination"? :confused: An "abortion" is when something is ended.


:lol: :huh: :lol:

rsholland
09-16-2004, 01:39 PM
1. He was told that the 06 was a "Abortion"


I'm assuming he's referring to the styling, which is purely subjective. "One man's poison..."

Bob

Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 01:40 PM
Is that the word you use when you don't know the term "Abomination"? :confused: An "abortion" is when something is ended.

That concept face lift hasn't been verified as the '06 look. It's a very likely direction for a future impreza styling exercise (the yoke grill is already confirmed) but there's been nothing confirmed otherwise.

Your GM friend is looking up his info the same places we are... don't jump the gun just because he happens to use the English language poorly.




The word that was used was "Abortion" and it didn't come from my friend it was from the regional marketing person. He said Subaru was making a mistake with the FACELIFT, not the next gen Imprezza.

And I have heard the term "abortion" used to describe several poor attempts at autos. The latest being the Mitsubishi endevor.

And I have also heard the term used to describe some of the wonderful rat's nest car installs that kids do in their garages.

It's not my description I am just telling you what I know.

Sorry, if you don't like it.

Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 01:44 PM
I'm assuming he's referring to the styling, which is purely subjective. "One man's poison..."

Bob


Perhaps, he suggested that the 06 facelift was not well received in his office. Some people like bug-eyes better that the 04's. Too each his own I guess.

bull3964
09-16-2004, 02:19 PM
Some people like bug-eyes better that the 04's. Too each his own I guess.

Count me as one of them. I would probably trade my 02 in on an 05 to gain moonroof and the power goodies that they added if it still looked the same. But I really don't want a Hyundeyes.

I'm expecting a grill change to help transition into their new look, but nothing drastic one year before a major redesign. Also, wouldn't we be seeing the change soon since the next model year is due to come out in Japan at the end of this one? Japan always has a 9 month or so lead time on us. I would look for something in a little over a week at the 2004 Paris Auto Show. That's when they debuted the face lifted new gen Impreza.

FaastLegacy
09-16-2004, 02:24 PM
I hate these threads. It always brings out the people who claim their dad's brother's best friend's husband told them exactly what's going on. Don't trust armchair experts, especially when their "knowledge" comes from hearsay.

1. No one knows for sure, it's all speculation but don't expect it to change.
2. Again speculation, but most likely not.
3. The price won't necessarily be higher but if it does increase, it won't be drastic.
4. Don't wait for the 06s.

Beaverboy
09-16-2004, 03:18 PM
Sorry, if you don't like it.

I was attacking the word.. sorry that I spat on the messenger :o

Without getting political, an "abortion" is a sour term.. almost universally. A negative word cannot just be substituted for another negative word because it is negative. Where would we be if we confused the words "orgasm" and "hero"?

Cletus is an abomination among men. : That man is a hero. :: Cletus is an abortion among men. : That man is an orgasm.

Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 03:46 PM
While that would not be my word choice that is what the guy called it.

I love it that I'm called a arm chair expert. Pretty funny. I was there when the guy said it. picking up my 05 Limited GT and 05 STI. both $2000 back of invoice, that's well into holdback and advertising. Armchair expert, HA.

The 06 will be a gateway for the platform revision that will come in 07/08. It will be just like the bugeye to the Hyundaieye. But basically the same car.

In this Subaru employees opnion it was a step in the wrong direction.

FocusSVTdude
09-16-2004, 03:55 PM
I love it that I'm called a arm chair expert. Pretty funny. I was there when the guy said it. picking up my 05 Limited GT and 05 STI. both $2000 back of invoice, that's well into holdback and advertising. Armchair expert, HA.

In this Subaru employees opnion it was a step in the wrong direction.

$2000 below invoice on an STi? I assume you are "this Subaru employee" holding said opinion

Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 04:08 PM
nope, The GM was the best man at my wedding. I basically paid what the dealer paid to get the car on the lot. It came off the truck and had the delivery check done and that's it. I got it home and had to prep it myself. still ahd the palstic on it on my way home.

This subaru employee, was the regional marketing guy. who was there when I picked up the cars.

FocusSVTdude
09-16-2004, 04:16 PM
nope, The GM was the best man at my wedding.

Ah, I should have read more closely. GM=general manager, not General Motors.

My best man sells music systems/programing to retail businesses. :(
But I can get a hell of a deal if I open a restaurant. :)

Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 04:35 PM
Ah, I should have read more closely. GM=general manager, not General Motors.

My best man sells music systems/programing to retail businesses. :(
But I can get a hell of a deal if I open a restaurant. :)


Well it's time to look for a career change then:)

I was interested in the STI before he got the job as the GM. But being able to get it so cheap is what sold me on the deal.

When we went to look at the STI my wife drove his demo Legacy GT and she just had to have it.

Either way the 06 Imprezza will be a gateway car for a complete redesign.

C-daleRidr
09-16-2004, 05:14 PM
nope, The GM was the best man at my wedding. I basically paid what the dealer paid to get the car on the lot. It came off the truck and had the delivery check done and that's it. I got it home and had to prep it myself. still ahd the palstic on it on my way home.

This subaru employee, was the regional marketing guy. who was there when I picked up the cars.

Almost sounds like the regional marketing guy is trying to sell some MY05's before the MY06's hit. Always be skeptical when a sales person is talking to you about the next year's stuff; he or she is probably just trying to get you to literally buy into the current year's stuff.

Or, said another way, we've found that regional sales managers are often full of as much **** as the local used car dealer.

Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 05:35 PM
I already bought the car it didn't matter to me. He was talking to the GM of the dealership, I was just there when it happened. The 05 STI production run is close to being up, and the dealership I got mine from has 9 on the lot I doubt he was going to take more into stock. The guy really has nothing to gain but more to lose.

Beaverboy
09-16-2004, 05:37 PM
The 05 STI production run is close to being up, ...
:confused: Wow. So they crank them all out in 3 months and then sit back and hope they all sell?

FaastLegacy
09-16-2004, 05:45 PM
I already bought the car it didn't matter to me. He was talking to the GM of the dealership, I was just there when it happened. The 05 STI production run is close to being up, and the dealership I got mine from has 9 on the lot I doubt he was going to take more into stock. The guy really has nothing to gain but more to lose.

I don't know if you've clued in this or not yet but 80% of the garbage that comes out of dealer employees/GMs' mouthes and whoever else you can think of is bullshat. They'll tell you anything to sell a car. Half the time they know nothing about the cars they are selling.

There may be some minor changes but I doubt many if it all in the 2006.

If I had a dollar everytime someone came in here claiming to know all about the next MY Subaru I'd be rich. And until you have some more evidence to back yourself up besides hearsay, you sound like an armchair expert.

-faast

wagman01
09-16-2004, 09:33 PM
The word that was used was "Abortion" and it didn't come from my friend it was from the regional marketing person. He said Subaru was making a mistake with the FACELIFT, not the next gen Imprezza.

And I have heard the term "abortion" used to describe several poor attempts at autos. The latest being the Mitsubishi endevor.

And I have also heard the term used to describe some of the wonderful rat's nest car installs that kids do in their garages.

It's not my description I am just telling you what I know.

Sorry, if you don't like it.

Wordnet 2.0 defines "abortion" as:

abortion
n 1: termination of pregnancy
2: failure of a plan [syn: miscarriage]

So definition 2 makes sense somewhat. I guess.

Are you sure you're not thinking of the made-up word Abhoration? I've seen that used to define crappy cars. I can't find it in the dictionary though, so i'm pretty sure it's made up.

How are you pronouncing this word?

Davenow
09-16-2004, 09:39 PM
you are going to have to wait a hell of a lot more than 4 months for an 06.
More like about 10 months.

ANZAC_1915
09-16-2004, 10:22 PM
I already bought the car it didn't matter to me. He was talking to the GM of the dealership, I was just there when it happened. The 05 STI production run is close to being up, and the dealership I got mine from has 9 on the lot I doubt he was going to take more into stock. The guy really has nothing to gain but more to lose.

That is if you believe him.....STi's are certainly NOT in short supply.

Typically the Impreza new models don't come out until Feb-May ish.

Glenn

HB_Dad
09-17-2004, 06:17 PM
I was attacking the word.. sorry that I spat on the messenger :o

Without getting political, an "abortion" is a sour term.. almost universally. A negative word cannot just be substituted for another negative word because it is negative. Where would we be if we confused the words "orgasm" and "hero"?

Cletus is an abomination among men. : That man is a hero. :: Cletus is an abortion among men. : That man is an orgasm.

WHy do I feel like I should be covering my eyes in shame when reading that quote?
:lol:

brainrally
09-17-2004, 06:29 PM
Are you sure you're not thinking of the made-up word Abhoration? I've seen that used to define crappy cars. I can't find it in the dictionary though, so i'm pretty sure it's made up.

How are you pronouncing this word?

Or are you thinking of the word aberration, which is not made up? :p

fliz
09-17-2004, 06:40 PM
Or are you thinking of the word aberration, which is not made up? :p
I can't nobody has heard the term "ugly as an abortion"

Have you ever seen an abortion? It's not a pretty sight. I could GIS, but I'd probably be banned.

Beaverboy
09-17-2004, 06:57 PM
I can't nobody has heard the term "ugly as an abortion" I suppose some of us socialize with a more eloquent crowd. You're oversimplifying the word 'abortion', and you're using it offensively.

ringe
09-18-2004, 04:36 AM
I'm hoping that Subaru will have an answer to the EVO MR in the form of a more tricked out STi.

I'll be waiting till the 06's come out before I make a decision on going STi or getting a new Evo. My WRX is faster in a straight line than a stock STi, but it's lacking in the suspension/tranny, etc department, and I want to upgrade.

The 05 STi is in purely numerical terms up to par with the MR already, and costs likely at least 2k less (see current issue of Motor Trend, october I believe). In subjective terms the car is actually more throttle-adjustable than the MR, according to MT.

gurpman
09-18-2004, 11:18 AM
I suppose some of us socialize with a more eloquent crowd.

Incredible -- snobs on a Subaru board! :lol:

ANZAC_1915
09-18-2004, 11:35 AM
I suppose some of us socialize with a more eloquent crowd. You're oversimplifying the word 'abortion', and you're using it offensively.

It is a very common part of the vernacular in Australia. I hadn't heard it used here.

wagman01
09-18-2004, 02:08 PM
Or are you thinking of the word aberration, which is not made up? :p

No, I looked that word up too and it didn't seem to make much sense in that specific context.

"Abhoration" is a word I found that many people incorrectly use to describe something that "abhors" them. Throw it into Google and you would be surprised how many hits it comes up with. Google doesn't even make any alternate spelling suggestions, because it is so common. Unfortunatly, it's still not a real word.

samagon
09-18-2004, 04:49 PM
whether some dude named webster puts a word in his dictionary or not, if enough people use it, it is a word.

connotation vs denotation

a word must exist in the dictionary for it to have a denotation, which a denotation is the definition of said word.

a connotation of a word is the understood meaning, whether in the dictionary or not.

if you ask enough people what abhoration means, and they all say the same thing, then that word is a word, just used in connotative terms.

I don't claim to be an english major, but this isn't exactly an english literature forum.

anyone know anything else about the '06 STi, or should I just go ahead and stay in my wagon?

hondaslayer
09-18-2004, 09:09 PM
The people that know for sure about the next MY Subies either will not post, or they will simply say nothing on the matter.

mnavarro
09-19-2004, 11:56 AM
I have heard the word abortion used to describe a miserably failed design. It has been used. Just because the connotation of the word is an aborted pregnancy, anything can be aborted and therefore an abortion. GET over it, really.

mrl859
09-19-2004, 12:05 PM
I own a 2004 srt-4. But I'm selling it in may, Then I'm buying a new car (STI).
Why does it have to be one or the other?

Jon [in CT]
11-29-2004, 11:46 PM
bump