Hooray. Sticky pleeeeease :) (The other rallyx thread was for "recruiting")


The Winter Woolies RallyCross, the second RallyCross sanctioned by the Arctic Alaska Region, will be at the Alaska State Fairgrounds on Saturday, November 13th. The Stewards of Rally request your ONLINE registration BY Monday, November 8th--this means you must NOT procrastinate--SIGN UP TODAY!

Early registration is available online and its discount expires at 8PM on the 3rd of November. Fees are $30 for SCCA members and $40 for our fellow RallyCross enthusiasts. For those who are not willing to register online, you may call Cheryl at 243-2122 to register PRIOR to 8PM on Wednesday, November 3rd to receive the $10 early registration savings.

Registration after the 3rd, is at the full registration fees of $40 and $50. These fees apply through the registration open at the event site, which is 10:00AM-10:30AM.

With winter looming, all competitors will need to bring boots, jackets, and mittens--you'll be working corners when you are not running the RallyCross. Come PREPARED to be out-in-the-cold!

Classes are 2WD Stock, 2WD Modified, 4WD Stock and 4WD Modified. DOT approved studded tires will be allowed, and approval is at discretion of the Stewards of Rally. Do NOT over-stud tires and think it will be OK! No rally tires will be allowed.

No plans are being made at this time for meals to be provided the competitors.

A reminder that all vehicles must be muffled and are subject to approval to the Stewards of Rally. As well, all attending under the age of 18--as a competitor or guest at the event--must have an SCCA minor waiver signed by both parents.

The registration form has been uploaded to this site. Please download it (you will need Adobe Acrobat Reader, which is free from adobe.com), fill it out completely, and have it postmarked not later than November 3rd to receive the early registration discount. We APPRECIATE all who send in their registrations after the discount deadline--we need to plan on the attendance for pit area, timing, and other "ext

hmm....guess i should start on my mudflap project for the STi:devil: time to test the e-brake and DCCD system:D

hmm....guess i should start on my mudflap project for the STi:devil: time to test the e-brake and DCCD system:D


Must be nice to have that "Pull ebrake disengage rear wheels" option :furious:

I'm going to try and con my rich parents into buying me some studded tires. It'll be hard to be competitive if i don't.

try tirerack....every where in town is expensive...but guess i need expensive stuff for an expensive car...lol....johnsons has some nice glacier grips...costco too if you are looking for studs...

how bout a link to the site for registration?

http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=2331&psrnd=.98569326279371579569200890811824869589

7 people registered online so far.

Bump!

will this go on even if there is tons of snow on teh ground:devil:??

will this go on even if there is tons of snow on teh ground:devil:??

Of course :p That'll make just that much funner. Hopefully the course designer widens the gates a lot to compensate for snow.

eurojax give me a call at 351-2937, got some stuff u might want

eurojax give me a call at 351-2937, got some stuff u might want

Oh reeeeally? I'm best with PM's since I have an akward schedule (i.e. when I'm awake most people are asleep)



8 People registered online so far. 11 days left.

Well I will have realtives visiting during this one, so it looks like I will have to try and make the next one. Can't wait to give the A6 a try.

Well I will have realtives visiting during this one, so it looks like I will have to try and make the next one. Can't wait to give the A6 a try.

:\ If you know anyone that would remotely want to give rally-x a try, tell them to hit me or cheryl up.


Guys, out of the 50 (guesstimate number) AKIC members who own a Subaru, only 2 have registered.

Like I said, for having the perfect vehicle for this, that's a very sad number.

If you're worried about ruining your car, go slow, take it easy, learn how the track is. It's pretty amazing to me that more people Auto-X their subaru's than Rally-X.

So if you guys know anyone who would have any remote interest in rallycrossing, please let them know. This is absolutely my favorite sport, and it would be sad to watch it not be offered anymore due to not enough participation. I know a bunch of us watch the WRC and are absolutely fascinated by it. Rally-X allows us all to see what it's like, to a small degree.

Thanks a lot Craig for registering!


So, for some motivation, here's a couple pictures from the last one and I may have a video up in a bit.

--Tyler


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/silverwrx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/d3b25f60.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/RALLYCROSS4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/RALLYCROSS2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/RALLYCROSS1.jpg




VIDEO

Right Click, Save As.

http://nords.no-ip.com/rallycross.WMV

PS: Don't laugh to hard at the beeping, there was bump in the middle of a turn that basically made you jump out of your seat, and since all of the steering wheel is basically a horn, I hit it several itmes.

I will be disconnecting them this time :furious:

Also, this shows how gentle rallyx is on a car if you're somewhat modest with your power like I was.

ur car has power!?! :huh:

i really want to give this a try,i havent registered online yet cause i was wanting alittle more info.do the cars run the course 1 at a time? if so are we just racing against other drivers times? what constutes the moddified class vs stock? i think the biggest reason people are not wanting to run there cars is the same reason im slightly hesitant,rock damage to the car.i know the fairground dirt pretty well from racing motocross there severel times over the years and im pretty sure its not filled with big rocks and seems like a pretty fine dirt.if anyone that raced there car there recently can confirm the dirt conditions would be helpful.
im about 95% sure i will race as of now,i may have to sign up later due to cash flow this week though.

I also wonder about the modified vs stock issue. My mods are modest:
WRX rims and hankooks.
Aftermarket panel filter.

I thought I saw in the SCCA rules something about non-stock rims bumping you into "modified" class, can anyone confirm this?
Or, Jax, what bumps you into the modified class?

Couldn't see the "Horn Video" - -will try again later.

I was going to swap my brakes that weekend, but it looks fun. So, I'll do the brakes over Thanksgiving. :)

(Anyone who makes fun of my car gets a flaming bag of poo outside their door) ;)

I think running in the winter you will be fine, it should just be snow and ice you are running on, should not be much worse than driving around on Anchorage roads. :D

The main plus to an event like this is you get to see how your car handles in the snow in a safe and controlled environment. I will be looking forward to the next event.

:devil:

come on everybody is doing it!

do the cars run the course 1 at a time?

Yes, just like in the video I posted. 1 car goes, finishes, another one starts.

if so are we just racing against other drivers times?
Yes. I do beleive there are going to be a minimum for 4 runs, with 1 run (the lowest) being thrown out. I don't expect it to be disgustingly competitive, so don't worry about that.


what constutes the moddified class vs stock?

You know, I don't remember the specificities there. You might try e-mailing or calling Cheryl Babbe. I just know that my car is in the modified.



i think the biggest reason people are not wanting to run there cars is the same reason im slightly hesitant,rock damage to the car.i know the fairground dirt pretty well from racing motocross there severel times over the years and im pretty sure its not filled with big rocks and seems like a pretty fine dirt.if anyone that raced there car there recently can confirm the dirt conditions would be helpful.
im about 95% sure i will race as of now,i may have to sign up later due to cash flow this week though.

It's pretty easygoing on the cars. Since so much snow is coming down, we might not even see dirt! But yeah, the first rally-x came and went and my car looked the exact same.

would they get mad if i did crazy e-brake drifts? or gettin sideways a lot?

:devil:

would they get mad if i did crazy e-brake drifts? or gettin sideways a lot?

:devil:

Handbraking, I would think, is the slow way around a corner. The only way I could see a person using the handbrake and gaining time is if it was Jake:lol:, or they had a WRC style handbrake (i.e. one that is really easily accessible on a moments notice, unlike ours. I'm talking right next to the wheel). I could be very wrong, and I'm writing this pertaining to a snowy course. Gravel could be a different story since it's a lot grippier. On shallow turns, I would think a good amount of oversteer would be faster. On hairpin turns, it's a toss up. If the conditions and course structure allow for creating oversteer (i.e. really wide gates around a hairpin) I would think oversteer would be faster.

But as for ebrake drifting, I'm pretty sure the stewards would get pretty pissed if people goofed around. It might be a good question to pose to them though. Getting sideways, I'm sure we'll all be getting pretty sideways :lol:

i would e-brake just for the hell of it....its all about having fun right? if i do it, DCCD will be in 35/65 the whole time:devil:

just need rear mudflaps now...

Screw the e-break, power drift thru it, that is if you can go fast enough to do it yet maintain grip.

i would e-brake just for the hell of it....its all about having fun right? if i do it, DCCD will be in 35/65 the whole time:devil:

just need rear mudflaps now...
if i understand this right if your dccd is in manual position (lets say lock) for ripping down a straghit section then when you get to a tight turn your front wheels wont want to let you around a corner so you grab the e brake to get the back around and the dccd goes back to a auto mode allowing some slippage to the front wheels for tight cornering and then releasing the e brake you go back to your previous selected manual mode (lock).
if im wrong please let me know,its kind of vague in the owners manual.

o.k.,im registered.

I'm on the list too!! :D

Sweet!

me, 00Maddog, hirevn, and Kiwi Fella have all registered.


13 registered so far, total. Anyone else going to give it a try?

Yeah, I'm signed up too. :)

Yeah, I'm signed up too. :)

Awesome, it'll be nice to have someone else besides me representin' the old school.

15 registered so far :eek:

Up to 16, anyone else thinking about it?

Registered last night, cant wait to slide the big wagen around in the snow!

-Derek

Sorry if I missed it. What is the official start time (1st one out of the gate)?

Sorry if I missed it. What is the official start time (1st one out of the gate)?

Tech starts at 10am I do beleive. More info should be coming out tonight or tommorow from Cheryl.

Last call, 2 more days to register online, then only on-site registration will be allowed.

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrry!

when i drove by the fairgrounds tonight there is basicly no snow left due to 45 deg temps and 40 mph winds so be prepared for a muck rally,should be fun.

Nice, hopefully it freezes a bit for then.

doesn't look like it will...damn why'd the snow have to melt....sux0r....looks like i wont be doin it....only wanted to rally in snow:devil:

wimp!

doesn't look like it will...damn why'd the snow have to melt....sux0r....looks like i wont be doin it....only wanted to rally in snow:devil:

If anything you should be more likely to do it now. Snow is most definitely harder to learn on, gravel gives you a lot more to work with and is a lot more forgiving with mistakes.

yeah...but gravel= ****ed up paint

And Anchorage roads and parking lots perfect for your paint???

And Anchorage roads and parking lots perfect for your paint???

also driving on the roads behind other cars! :eek: just do it and use ur sti for what it was designed for!

hmm....guess i should start on my mudflap project for the STi:devil: time to test the e-brake and DCCD system:D

I don't really think you're going to need an ebrake or messing with the DCCD system while rallying. It has enough power as it is. Just use the Faint technique with the DCCD set a couple notches below 50/50. You want more power to the rear to kick the ass out anyway. Just my experience

if i was going to do the rallyx i'd prolly leave it in auto most of the time....and try the e-brake thing like once....doesn't mean i'd do it through the whole course and try to be a wannabe wrc driver....either way....anchorage streets parking lots and this rallyX the paint will get ****ed up over time.....i just don't want it to happen all at once just cause of a rallyX :rolleyes:

Just read some of the posts above and wanted to confirm that WINTER WOOLIES RALLYCROSS is happening on Saturday the 13th.

The Stewards had received a call of "standing water" and "gooey" so two of them took time-off to go north today and check-it-out! The report is that it is just like our summer event and we'll be competing on the GRASS (not gravel). There appears to be good Matanuska black dirt under the grass. There is a small "puddle" which may become a "water hazzard" on the course--or not, depending on the course layout. And, there are some patches of snow (well, at least today).

A reminder to all competitors--dress warm! Please be at the site NOT later than 9:30AM to ready your vehicle for tech inspection.

Not sure who posted complaint of no snow--geez, last month we had NO EVENT! And, because of no snow--they are choosing NOT to support the event? YIKES!

if i was going to do the rallyx i'd prolly leave it in auto most of the time....and try the e-brake thing like once....doesn't mean i'd do it through the whole course and try to be a wannabe wrc driver....either way....anchorage streets parking lots and this rallyX the paint will get ****ed up over time.....i just don't want it to happen all at once just cause of a rallyX :rolleyes:

But the whole point of buying a car is using it. Paint can be repaired, rally-x's don't happen that often.

I will still go! :D

Are studded tires still allowed?

Should be some messy fun. :)

Are studded tires still allowed?

Should be some messy fun. :)

Yes, but no double/triple studding.

Yes, but no double/triple studding.

Thanks. I forgot to ask Cheryl on the phone last night.

Well I'm pretty stoked that so many subaru's joined up. However, that's just more cars that will beat me :( :D

If anyone wants to show up early and help out, you can get to the site around 8 and help set course. Calling Cheryl beforehand might be good too. I'm getting there around 9am since I have to work at 6:30 am.

I'm going to try and get some in-car footage as well as footage from the grandstands. I'll probably post the video up afterwards for downloading.

(PS, just FYI, the horn fuse is in the engine bay, if you are like me, you might want to disable it :lol: )

well alot subarus goto the auto-xs...considering this is only the second event of this nature...more subies were bound to sign up...the first event was held on a day that i couldn't get off of work and then drive out to the fairground so i wasn't gonna make that and i'm sure that was the case for most of the other "regular" subie auto-xrs....and second scheduled event was cancealed so obviously no one went...

Directions:

Basically, go to palmer. You'll see "Inner Springer Loop" road signs. There will be two of them, they might say inner or outer, who cares. Anyway, you'll pass one of the springer loop's, don't turn on that one. I did last time and got VERY lost. The 2nd springer loop is what you'll turn on. You'll go down a road and on your right you should see the rally-x area. You'll see a huge barn type thing, and the grandstands and a huge open lot full of nothing. If you go past taco bell, you've gone too far. Here's a map I just did.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/directions.jpg

kiwi and i are gonna meet and then drive out there...anyone else in!?!? :confused:

i live here :D ,i was spose to bring a registration form in to conti today but couldnt get away from work.ill bring it to the track,hopefully i can still race.be ready for light rain :(
see ya in the morning.

if i was going to do the rallyx i'd prolly leave it in auto most of the time....and try the e-brake thing like once....doesn't mean i'd do it through the whole course and try to be a wannabe wrc driver

Well that's all I was saying, bro.

You don't want to use the E-brake or the "Auto" function because it'll shift power from left to right and from front to back. That's why you have more power to the rear going all the time when you're trying to stay sideways. You don't want to put your drift into the hands of a computer anyway.

Well, it's 3AM and up for work. Still "prepping" my car, decided to make an InCar camera mount with the crap I had lying around, and well, here it is: :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/ghettoincar.jpg


Hopefully the safety stewards don't gripe too much about it.

way to be mcgyver! :lol:

wow 3am mods and a race today. that's hard core. even I got sleep:D

I'm off to conti to make a last minute trans fluid swap to syn., and double check lugs, since I never rechecked after installing new rims a couple weeks ago.

I'll see everyone at the event!!

Wow, props to Jerry for the fastest time of the day, and quite possibly the overall win!

Much fun today, will upload pics later.

Yeah, the red AC/DC Mobile kicked ass. Fish tank parts and all... :)

Thanks guys and props to euro for providing some competition :D

XR4Tim took a nice video if someone will tell me how to host a 58mb video. I can't just compress this with photoshop! I have neodvd if that could be used, or I could download something from kazaa, just don't know what I need.

I'll post pics when I get done resizing them.

congrats on the great driving maddog,i had alot of fun sliding around outthere today.im slightly disapointed on how bad i sucked with the slowest times out of probably everyone out there :huh: but still was a good time.i guess i should stick to straghit line racing :rolleyes: . what i thought was really impressive was how smooth the legacy was.

I took like 30, and these are a few scaled down pics. They all came out somewhat blurry. :( But, anyway.
http://www.geocities.com/ak_monkeyboy/ww01.jpg
Squad busting a move during Jerry's first "spirited" run.
http://www.geocities.com/ak_monkeyboy/ww05.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ak_monkeyboy/ww08.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ak_monkeyboy/ww12.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ak_monkeyboy/ww15.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ak_monkeyboy/ww20.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ak_monkeyboy/ww22.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ak_monkeyboy/ww25.jpg
If you want ones of your car, fullsize - PM me your email and I'll gladly send them to you.

Glad to see some pics.

Winslow

Alright, here's my writeup since I'm finally at home. I fell asleep at my brothers in wasilla RIGHT after the race.

Anyway, compared to the last rally-x this was AWESOME. The course was almost 3 times as long, MUCH faster turns, straightaways, etc. The course didn't change at all compared to the last one. Some have said that the course got better through the day, some say it got worse. What I will say is that the two "snow corners" got EXTREMELY bad throughout the day. Every single time I tried to go through it I got horrible understeer and barely made it out. But, the course did get better in the fact that the grass got pushed down so you could see a little better, but with that came a little bit more slippery surface, which may or may not have been better depending on driving styles. The course really was great, I liked the fact that you drive the track around and back again.

SQUAD_907 was the man to beat after the first group drove. I was amazed at his times considering this was his first rally-x. He totally owned his STi through a lot of the corners, making it look like he'd done it all before. I was expecting Jake or Kent to have the fastest time, even though they were in the FWD neon, but Squad owned.

The 2nd group, comprised of myself, Kent, Jerry, Craig, Hirevn, and GT-Jilly's husband was pretty competitive. My first run, 119 seconds, was horrible. I looked up and saw that I was in the latter part of the pack. I saw Jerry's time and was happy, 126 seconds. Craig looked really fluid out there and his car sounded awesome. 2nd run came through and I saw that my time had dropped 7 seconds, and then I saw Jerry's and he was .1 seconds faster. 3rd run came through, and I set the fastest time for the day, 110 seconds. 4th run, I hit a cone and gave up, figuring that we had 4 more runs to do, I'd just let that one be the one I dropped. In hindsight that was a big mistake since we didn't get to run those, but such is life. I get done, and see that Jerry sets the fastest time for the day with 107 seconds, a full 3 seconds faster than my 2nd fastest time for the day.

GT-Jilly's husband, although not getting any of the fastest times for the day, was VERY consistent. He basically got 4 112 second runs. I'm pretty sure that gave him the win overall, but the times haven't been released yet. My brother, who was filming, was positive that he had the fastest time of the day. When I got to my brothers I watched the video before going to sleep. He was definitely the most skilled. His club/pro rally skills were obvious when he would brake just enough and give just enough gas to really get the car sideways and around corners. Although his pro/club rally car was FWD, you could tell that he knew what the hell he was doing.

Props to hirevn and AKOBS for putting down some impressive times in their first every rallyX.

I do beleive the standings put Derek in first and Jerry in second, but we won't know officially for a couple days.

Anyway, enough with the talk, here's a couple pictures.

The rally piggy has never been happier:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/rallycross7.jpg


Most mud my car has ever seen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/rallycross6.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/rallycross5.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/rallycross4.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/rallycross3.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/rallycross2.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/rallycross1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/eurojax/rallycross8.jpg

I see cheryl is lurking, hopefully she posts results.

I just called, they are having problems with the spreadsheet with the times. They are going to recount them and make sure they are correct before posting them up.

Alright, well, the times came in. And like I figured, Jerry had the fastest time, followed by me, and then derek. Pretty cool considering last time the 2wd guys had the fastest times, this time AWD owned it up.

In 4WD Modified, Jerry won with a cumulative time of 333.429 seconds, 2nd was Derek with 338.978, 3rd was me with 342.308, 4th was Craig with 352.215, and 5th was hirevn with 382.667.

In 4WD stock, Mr. Squad_907 took first with 343.924, 2nd was AKOBS with 347.007, 3rd was Marc Whinery with 360.467, and 4th was Jeff Lynn who broke a hub on his exploder with 736.542.

So basically, when combining the two (4wd stock and mod) it was:

00Maddog - 333.429
Derek - 338.978
eurojax - 342.308
Squad_907 - 343.924
AKOBS - 347.007
Kiwi_Fella - 352.215
Marc Whinery - 360.467
hirevn - 382.667

And then, fastest time it went:

00Maddog - 107.027
eurojax - 110.813
Derek - 110.872
Squad_907 - 111.968


Pretty awesome.

Whens the next one?, I'll definately be there. I saw the video of Jerry, it looks like a lot of fun :D

-Wes

Add me to that list too for next time. Looks real fun.

The following was posted under the heading "Winter Wanderland" to start a NEW THREAD for details, comments and such about our next event: Our 2nd RallyCross is officially in the history books! While enthusiasm and "bench-racing" are at the forefront, we encourage you to register for our 3rd sanctioned RallyCross--Winter Wanderland. The venue is currently set for the Alaska State Fairgrounds.

The event will take place on Saturday, January 15th, and registration is officially open at myautoevents.com. PLEASE download the registration form and send your completed form and monies in TODAY.

The registration limit has been set at 30 cars, so don't delay--first paid are set to play.

Stewards of Rally