I know this thread is been cover many times, just wondering where I can get some instructions on how to do this mod. I've seen it before, but I can't find it in the search, maybe you guys could help me. Thanks

so what problem exactly have you run into while trying to install this part?

no problem, I was going to do it today, but up here in the northeast we have alot of trees , so today was leaf day. I just don't wanna run into problems so I rather get some steps on how to.

ok.. just got for it then.. its really one of those things thats so easy it would be hard to mess up.

pop hood
remove air scoop thingy (two bolts)
jack up passenger side of the car
remote front passenger wheel
partialy remove plastic inner fender
remove silencer
put in elbo delete.
tighten the one bolt.
lower car
put air scoop thingy back in
close hood
check out the second picture in this thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=477393&highlight=faq

thats what your removing.

ok.. just got for it then.. its really one of those things thats so easy it would be hard to mess up.

pop hood
remove air scoop thingy (two bolts)
jack up passenger side of the car
remote front passenger wheel
partialy remove plastic inner fender
remove silencer
put in elbo delete.
tighten the one bolt.
lower car
put air scoop thingy back in
close hood
check out the second picture in this thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=477393&highlight=faq

thats what your removing.

:disco: :disco: :disco:

thanks for help......that....that...that's all folks

FWIW, that part was calipered and proven to have smaller inlet/outlet diameters than the stock part.

just wondering do you have any gains after the delete elbow installed?

i think it does little gain...

or just the 40 bucks effect made me feel it should be little faster?

Even if this part was $10 it would still be a ripoff.

Even if this part was $10 it would still be a ripoff.


wut you meant is that the delete elbow has no gain at all??

but it does remove the restrictive intake sliencer... more free flow, but no gain?

imo its a gimmick. If you really want to get rid of the resonator cut it off, if you want to seal it up after that use some duck tape.

They turned a free mod into a money maker.

As far as gain - if you want to get more power get a bigger turbo or a 3" turboback or a utec/reflash. The silencer delete wont do anything but make it louder.

It's a rip off. I had it and it doesn't do anything. Doesn't even give more noise. Waste of money.


take off the "restrictive" silencer and look at at the two ends of the pipe...they are joined together already so it's not like the air HAS to flow all the way through the silencer before it gets to the filter. Not very restrictive IMO. If you're planning on spending the 40 bucks on it to hear more sound then save up the money for the GPMoto short ram intake. That makes it much louder and is only 100 bucks so not that much more money.

imo its a gimmick. If you really want to get rid of the resonator cut it off, if you want to seal it up after that use some duck tape.

They turned a free mod into a money maker.

As far as gain - if you want to get more power get a bigger turbo or a 3" turboback or a utec/reflash. The silencer delete wont do anything but make it louder.

everyone knows getting bigger turbo or UTEC will give you awsome gain... you didn't have to point that fact out.

the reason i asked is that i spent that 40 bucks on the car, and i don't hear any noise increase from that piece installed...
just trying to hear something which may make me little bit happier ---> didn't waste my 40 bucks

I'm sorry man but you wasted your 40 bucks. You might be able to dupe someone else by selling it on ebay and making your money back...

Its really not as bad as everyone here is making it out to be. I used to have one on my WRX.

If you install it.. you now have your OEM piece in-tact when you need to go back to stock. I cant even imagine how expensive a new intake silencer will cost the people who cut theirs up.

Also.. it did make turbo spool a bit more audible which I rather liked. Does it help performance? probably not a whole lot. It hasnt been proven either way.

If I had to do is all over again... (and I did do it all over again)

I would put that money towards a K&N Typhoon. 12+ extra whp, and it doesnt care one way or another what kind of silencer you have in the fender.

I would put that money towards a K&N Typhoon. 12+ extra whp, and it doesnt care one way or another what kind of silencer you have in the fender.

What he said. If you don't want to spend the money on the K&N you will notice similar results with the GPmoto shorty.

everyone knows getting bigger turbo or UTEC will give you awsome gain... you didn't have to point that fact out.

Screw you then. You should buy some colored wire loom, that will help you hear the electrons more betterer.


If you install it.. you now have your OEM piece in-tact when you need to go back to stock. I cant even imagine how expensive a new intake silencer will cost the people who cut theirs up.


Why would you EVER "need" to put that thing back on??

reading comprehension isnt your stong suit eh?

Damn, didn't know my question would arouse this hostility, it's only a piece of plastic, fine maybe it will not do anything, I will try it this week, and i'll let you know if some of you were right or not.

I was always under the impression that the silencer delete elbow was *only* a cosmetic change intended to improve the spool sound coming from the turbo...I've never heard anyone claim it was intended as a performance improvement.

-Michael

f4 you are right...

I did it. No performance improvement whatsoever, but I originally did it for the sound. No improvement there either. If I had it to do over again I wouldn't have spent my money on it. I've ordered a K&N typhoon now so it doesn't really matter that I did the silencer delete except for the like 6 ounces of weight savings I guess. Don't waste your money, return it.

mmm ok I'll return it then

reading comprehension isnt your stong suit eh?

I can see it now, you go to trade in the car and the dealer tears your wheel and the fender liner off and says "no way am I taking that car without the resonator!!"

you are a clown face idiot.

I had mine on my previous WRX for about a year or so. It DOES increase the sound of the bypass valve slightly, as well as the noise of the turbo. Ever wonder why they call the stock one a silencer?

You certainly can't lose power, if anything it makes the air travelling from point a to point b more efficient. I just ordered one for my STi.

I had mine on my previous WRX for about a year or so. It DOES increase the sound of the bypass valve slightly, as well as the noise of the turbo. Ever wonder why they call the stock one a silencer?

You certainly can't lose power, if anything it makes the air travelling from point a to point b more efficient. I just ordered one for my STi.


You won't be disappointed. You're going to be amazed at how much louder the STi is than the WRX.

One thing to note is that you can use the nut from the stock silencer, and use it on the bolt supplied with the delete elbow. This way I doubt any Subaru tech even would be able to tell that you did something w/o actualy looking in the fenderwell. (not saying much as most wouldn't notice a VF34 on a WRX that was properly installed.) So if you have the elbow, I wouldn't worry about putting back in the stock silencer on a back to stock. I'd be slightly more worried with a hacked stock silencer, but even then I wouldn't go to the effort even if I had a brand new stock silencer sitting on a shelf waiting to go in.

One thing to note is that you can use the nut from the stock silencer, and use it on the bolt supplied with the delete elbow. This way I doubt any Subaru tech even would be able to tell that you did something w/o actualy looking in the fenderwell. (not saying much as most wouldn't notice a VF34 on a WRX that was properly installed.) So if you have the elbow, I wouldn't worry about putting back in the stock silencer on a back to stock. I'd be slightly more worried with a hacked stock silencer, but even then I wouldn't go to the effort even if I had a brand new stock silencer sitting on a shelf waiting to go in.

That's actually not true. Read this, and yes it does hold up in court:

MAGNUSON MOSS WARRANTY ACT

US Code - Title 15, Chapter 50, Sections 2301-2312

Legally, a vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty on a vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the aftermarket part caused or contributed to the failure in the vehicle (per the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)) . For best results, consider working with performance-oriented dealerships with a proven history of working with customers. If your vehicle manufacturer fails to honor emission/warranty claims, contact EPA at (202) 260-2080 or www.epa.gov. If federal warranty protection is denied, contact the FTC at (202) 326-3128 or www.ftc.gov.

What isn't right? I know the Magnuson-Moss act. Its also in the real world not quite worth the paper its written on since, traditonaly the burden of proof is actualy placed on the consumer to sue, prove damages, and prove dealers resposiblity. IE really what happens is that they deny warrenty and then you sue them for breach of contract.

And back to stock is slightly different. There you are merely recovering value from the car that the dealer will not pay for, and to make the dealer have warm fuzzy feeling till the ink is dry on the sale contract. I wish everyone would take the time to do a proper back to stock, but I have to be a realist and acknowledge that most people are just trying to dump the car as quick as possible.

So can you actually lose low-end torque from removing the silencer? I've heard some people complain about this.

What isn't right? I know the Magnuson-Moss act. Its also in the real world not quite worth the paper its written on since, traditonaly the burden of proof is actualy placed on the consumer to sue, prove damages, and prove dealers resposiblity. IE really what happens is that they deny warrenty and then you sue them for breach of contract.

And back to stock is slightly different. There you are merely recovering value from the car that the dealer will not pay for, and to make the dealer have warm fuzzy feeling till the ink is dry on the sale contract. I wish everyone would take the time to do a proper back to stock, but I have to be a realist and acknowledge that most people are just trying to dump the car as quick as possible.

I know, I went to court w/my best friend for his Mitsubishi. He pulled out his copy of this and took them to the cleaners for full reimbursement.