hey guys...

i've been lookin into a rs for a long long time now, and i was browsing some threads and stuff and realized that what i want is an sti 22b... i always wanted to turbo a ej25, but most say it's not realiable enough to concider. so what if i just went into converting to a 22b? what all would i have to do? i mean everything? should i start with a 2.2l from 97 or something and swap in a ej22t? i have no idea, except for this is what i want...

A 22B? Out of the question buddy. There were only 400 pieces made, all privately sold before they hit the market. The 22B is NOT something you would find for sale in the US. You can get a 2.2l and turbo that, or a legacy older 2.2l turbo engine. But NOT a 22B. Careful how you use the term 22B.

~Anthony.

yeah... thats what i mean... i wanna make something to spec as close as i can to a 22b, not an actual 22b. so i was thinking of a 2.2l and then turboing it.. along with all the other obvious things.

so basiclly.. i am starting from scratch... NOTHING.. what car do i need? rs, L... what engine do i need? ej25, ej20, ej22, etc... and EVERYTHING else..

i guess im asking how to build a, as matt says, "a 22b replica".

The most cost effective way to do it is buy a STi. The next closest way would be to buy a blown up WRX and do a 2.5 short block swap. The 2.2 turbo is legendary, but the new technology/availability in the newer motors just makes them easier. If you start with a L or something you will spend so much in converting everything over that it will not be worth it, IMO. I say that knowing full well that I basically did that same thing with my WRX and I will not trade that for anything.

There is a passion for these cars that exceeds financial responsibility, so I am sure you will do what you want. Just be sure you look into some of the other options before you start down the path. Starting with a Turbo car is nice, since you already have the correct starting platform.

go with the "25B" plan. or 26B 27B or maybe even 28B!

go with the "25B" plan. or 26B 27B or maybe even 28B!

what the heck does that mean? haha

ROFLMFAO

Everyone sees how sexy the 22B is and they think you can just go out and get one no problem.

what the heck does that mean? haha

"28B":http://www.crawfordperformance.com/engine_packages/r4_package.shtml

http://www.crawfordperformance.com/images/engine/2.65blockLogo.jpg

Remember that 22B is 555 in HEX. ;)

You know I swear there's atleast one of these "I want a 22B engine in my GC" every two weeks, and every two weeks its the same answers :lol: :p

keith

haha well thanks for all the help guys :-P i've done searches and i havne't even found anything, unless things are titled differently then "sti 22b"

just type in 22B, the 22B wasn't even labelled as an STi, just 22B

"Results 1 - 10 of about 114,000 for 22B" from a simple google.com query

This thread makes me laugh.

want a sweet car? Take an L, get the carbon fiber widebody if/when it comes out, sti ver 7 spec-c motor and tranny and rear end, suspension, brakes, built 2.2 or whatever size block, GT30R kit and some nice seats and wheels. MMMMMMMM

If your were to convert a 2001 2.5RS with parts from a 2004 or later US STi that would be pretty good. Then add the body parts from that company any one remember the name that makes 22B parts from the original molds.

yea this would be a dream but lets talk 22b here, its a fully closed 2.2 liter block yes? or was it a semi-closed deck block stroked 2.0? was their even a 2.0 fully closed block? curiousity has hit me, i just want to know for the sake of it, i know this is very debatabe as people coincide to one of the two sides....

yea this would be a dream but lets talk 22b here, its a fully closed 2.2 liter block yes? or was it a semi-closed deck block stroked 2.0? was their even a 2.0 fully closed block? curiousity has hit me, i just want to know for the sake of it, i know this is very debatabe as people coincide to one of the two sides....

the turbo legacy is a 2.2 fully closed block. the RS 2.5 is an open deck. the Sti's a 2.5 semi closed. the WRX's are semi closed the JDM wrx's sti's and type RA's are closed or semi closed depending on year and model. from my understanding all EJ20G's are closed decks
EJ18's
EJ22 (non turbo leg)
are open decks

USDM EJ20s are open deck.

buy a RS then swap in a ver5 or ver6 sti motor and drivetrain. then swap in a legacy EJ22G (turbo) block and custom pistons to make the compression ratio correct. Then buy the widebody kit, some lovely suspension bits so on and so forth...
take it easy, Micah
just buy an impreza of that age and swap in a USDM or JDM wrx motor.

go with the "25B" plan. or 26B 27B or maybe even 28B!

Actually, the 22 in 22B doesn't stand for 2.2L, it is hexadecimal for 555. :)

well yeah, but the engine actually was a 2.2l :) it just wasn't a ej22t

there's a 22b for sale here in NZ at the moment for $52knz.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Subaru/auction-16047961.htm

just type in 22B, the 22B wasn't even labelled as an STi, just 22B


Accually I'm pretty sure there full name is Subaru Impreza WRX 22B STi Type R

:disco:

The 22B was labeled as an STi. It started off as an STi Ver. 4 Type R before it was modified.

The 22B is an awesome car.


Jeremy

just buy an STi. youll probably spend less money for more product, and be just as happy in the end.

http://www.j-garage.com/sale/usedcars/stock/108795.html

Put the money where you mouth is and buy this bad boy!

http://www.j-garage.com/sale/usedcars/stock/108795.html

Put the money where you mouth is and buy this bad boy!


36,591.87 USD

"28B":http://www.crawfordperformance.com/engine_packages/r4_package.shtml

http://www.crawfordperformance.com/images/engine/2.65blockLogo.jpg


"I think I filled the cup"

Hey, follow the link to the 22B and investigate. That is not to bad of a price as they often go for over 40k USD here in Japan. To make a proper replica you need a 2 door and a wide body kit. If I remember correctly, the 2.2 in this car is not a stroked 2.0, has a 5 speed, 7.5 by 17 inch BBS wheels, vf23 turbo and some other things I cant remember. Making a replica of this car would be a very noble effort. I project I have entertained myself. And then of course being lazy and just buying one. I have seen 3 of the original cars and one of them was parked next to a replica. One was cut up and had a roll cage installed along with some other bs that really detracted from the car.

Modding a 22b is not what I would call cool especially for a very limited production car!!

Remember that 22B is 555 in HEX. ;)
That's funny, I never knew that.

(my future plans, turbo legacy block, bolt it in, turbo it, get a 6 speed, STi sports front bumper, mabye a widebody kit)

Can somebody explain what Hex is please. I've been hearing that for 4 or 5 years now and still don't know how it works.

Can somebody explain what Hex is please. I've been hearing that for 4 or 5 years now and still don't know how it works. sure can, it's counting in base 16 instead of base 10. Since we dont have single numbers for 10-16, we use A-F. Hence, dec=hex 9=9, 10=A 11=B, 30=1E (16+14)

b=11
2b=(2*16)+11=43
22b=(2*256)+(2*16)+11 = 555
22B = 555


http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Hexadecimal.html

to get our 10,100,1000,10000 base ten, we just take 10 and square it to get the next place. Therefore 10^2=100. the next digit fills in the space.

In hex, it's the same thing, just with sixteen... 16, 256, 4096, etc. to get the places.

Thanks, that's a little better. Not fully clear. Where does the 2*256 come from in the 22b? And what is the use for this? Computers I assume?

computers is the correct answer. their binary zings with hex better than with dec.

the 2*256 is for the first 2 in 22B (the one in the hundreds spot decimal wise, it's the 256 spot in hex). the 2*16 is for the second 2 in 22B (again, the tens spot in decimal, but the 16's spot in hex), and the 11 is for the B

See now if we (hypothetically) replace B with a number, lets say 5.

Now, go back to first grade (or so) when you were learning about counting.
225, you can understand that because you've got 2 100's, 2 10's and 5 1's. or (2*100)+(2*10)+(5*1) = 225.

In hex, you'd have 2 256's, 2 16's, and 5 1's.

just replace the 5 with B and you'll get it.

or bring up the Scientific calc in Windows and convert there. :lol:

or bring up the Scientific calc in Windows and convert there. :lol:
CHEATER!!!

(i used it to figure out if 22b really was 555... Hex is hard to do in your head)

And 555 is brand of cigarettes that has sponsored the SWRT for a long time. Hence the blue and yellow colors.


Jeremy

555 is also pronounced "Go, go, go" in Japanese. Also tying into the faupaux that "5Zigen" is pronounced "Five-Zigen". :lol: THe 5 is a "go".

Another useless tidbit of info...the number 23 is associated with Nissan a lot, because the numbers 2 3 are pronounced Nissan in Japanese. ;) I.e., 23Racing, 23Tuning, etc. A lot of stuff in our beloved subies is made by Nissan, and even wears the Nissan badge still!

Another useless tidbit of info...the number 23 is associated with Nissan a lot, because the numbers 2 3 are pronounced Nissan in Japanese. ;) I.e., 23Racing, 23Tuning, etc. A lot of stuff in our beloved subies is made by Nissan, and even wears the Nissan badge still!
like the window switches

Another useless tidbit of info...the number 23 is associated with Nissan a lot, because the numbers 2 3 are pronounced Nissan in Japanese. ;) I.e., 23Racing, 23Tuning, etc. A lot of stuff in our beloved subies is made by Nissan, and even wears the Nissan badge still!


Wow, you are right.

My Japanese is rusty.

1 = Ichi
2 = Ne
3 = San

Ne-San :lol:

I learned to count in japanese from Initial D!

I learned to count in japanese from Initial D!



No, I has to start taking Japanese in the first grade. :lol:

Modding a 22b is not what I would call cool especially for a very limited production car!!
agreed...the only benefits over the regular STi Ver 4 was .2L of displacement and the widebody...so you would save a lot of $$$ going that way...