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View Full Version : freight wagon beat Subaru WRX STi in 1/4 mile
bussard 11-22-2004, 03:21 PM i thought this would be bring some intrest here, heard the truck was a duramax diesel with just a chip :banana: but worth respecting i guess
http://duramaxracing.com/TomacDuramaxVsWRXSTi.mpg
wcbjr 11-22-2004, 03:36 PM STi didn't make it out of the hole very well. But props to the truck.
teiva-boy 11-22-2004, 03:46 PM just about any modded new age Diesel will give just about any import a run for the money. Deisel's make mad torque and will kill ya off the line. That and gearing make for some good launches
pleasenoSTIckershock 11-22-2004, 04:07 PM 12.35 with "just a chip" I find that hard to believe
Petty 11-22-2004, 04:52 PM I've seen some of those chipped diesels, and man are they fast!!!! :eek:
teiva-boy 11-22-2004, 05:10 PM 12.35 with "just a chip" I find that hard to believe
It could happen.
they'll gain over 150HP and over 200ft/lbs of torque with a good hand held programmer or custom tune. It wont be a superchips setup, but something along the lines of a predator, LS1EDIT, or HP Tuners software.
But then again, why brag about your setup to anyone? I'd rather keep the hidden tank of propane a secret if I had that on a deisel truck. ;)
Need4Boost 11-22-2004, 06:29 PM Its not shocking at all. Welcome to the world of diesel.
SubaruCO 11-22-2004, 06:50 PM This is true. Diesel's have really good power and can be quite fast if the gearing's right.
Also, a full 5" turboback straight-thru exhaust on a Powerstroke makes the sound of a helicopter turbine winding up. I'm talking 140 dB, shrieking, ear-piercing, thumping noise. Ask me, I know 'cause my neighbor has one and uses it on a daily basis.
i thought this would be bring some intrest here, heard the truck was a duramax diesel with just a chip :banana: but worth respecting i guess
http://duramaxracing.com/TomacDuramaxVsWRXSTi.mpg
a dura max with just a chip does not run 12.3. That truck had numerous bolt on's
qbbraveheart 11-22-2004, 08:28 PM damn lol
dug-e-fresh 11-22-2004, 08:39 PM regardless the launch, that was pretty much a stock STi based on time and trap speed... and as such, didn't stand a chance.
def
speedyHAM 11-22-2004, 08:53 PM I wonder how much power that truck is putting down. Last time I saw a truck that fast it was running just over 650 Hp.
subiekid 11-22-2004, 09:01 PM 12.35 with "just a chip" I find that hard to believe
Sounds like you need to do some research on the subject.
WRenXhaven 11-22-2004, 11:26 PM Sorry more than just a "chip" in that truck. I've ridden in a chipped 250 Frod Powerstroke truck with a 4" exhaust and intake mod. In 4 wheel high, he pulled a 1.9 60ft with an 11.7 @ 85 1000ft. In 2 wheel we left two fat patches to the 330, I guess 800ft/lbs will do that.
Now thats pretty damn impressive for lugging around close to 8000lbs but its sure a far shot from a 12.3 1/4.
Yeah I own a F250 powerstroke and there is no way you are running 12.3 in a truck with "just a chip". I would guess there was some propane somewhere on that truck. :)
tribalwrx 11-23-2004, 12:00 AM maybe propane and a nitrous kit from bullydog but who knows these days it doesn't take a hole hell of alot to pull large torque and hp #'s outa diesels anymore ...just my .02
mike
AZ2004STi 11-23-2004, 12:42 AM I own a Duramax Chevy Quadcab and, yes, there is no way that a chip alone will do that. I plan on adding the Edge Performance Module and Banks 4" turboback exhaust. It will easily make 800 to 900lbs of torque to the ground with maybe 350whp. It might do 13's with just those couple mods but, not bad for a tow pig!!!
BrianH 11-23-2004, 12:47 AM last time I was at the dragstrip in Byron, Il there was a chevrolet diesel truck that was running mid 11's. It was pretty cool, and the best part was that it towed a car to the track.
AntiochCali 11-23-2004, 02:21 AM Buddy of mine has a supercharged diesel truck - it makes mad torque around 500 ft/lbs but due to really low gearing, he uses his to haul horses, his whp is around 250. He is always playing with it, trying to get a little more out of it, but his gearing sucks for anything remotly like racing.
Don't most trucks with large engines have really low gearing?
Lightening excepted.
bussard 11-23-2004, 07:23 AM is that your best excuses :banana:
SGOSWRX 11-23-2004, 10:04 AM i thought this would be bring some intrest here, heard the truck was a duramax diesel with just a chip :banana: but worth respecting i guess
http://duramaxracing.com/TomacDuramaxVsWRXSTi.mpg
Who said the truck had just a chip? They do not run that time with just a chip.
Go to the duramaxracing.com website and read about the truck. If its the same truck at that website running low 12s @111mph , it has a ton of serious mods.
So I love how these stories get started.
alexcd 11-23-2004, 10:46 AM Turbo + Diesel = BALLS!!!
BrianH 11-23-2004, 11:19 AM is that your best excuses :banana:
What's wrong, were you expecting a myriad of excuses as to why this certain car is not the fastest in the world? Cars get beat, especially when their opponent was running low 12's. Go troll somewhere else.
Virrdog 11-23-2004, 11:27 AM Yes, diesels are nuts. The only limit to the amount nitrous/propane you can run is how strong your head bolts are (no lean burn). A lot of guys just disconnect their wastegates also and run all the boost that the turbo will run. I talked to a crazy old guy that was into that stuff, he also left two piles of rubber on the ground when he left.
bussard 11-23-2004, 02:32 PM just to state the mods, intake and exhaust(exhaust was not really needed) and two boxes,( some do the same with a single box) did have a little bottle for that run, without the bottle add a half of second(12.8)
another nice thing if the track is a fair ways away you can always haul the fithwheel their, weight for this truck is around the 7700lbs, what is the weight of the wrx
strangerq 11-23-2004, 04:48 PM Great run. But you shouldn't say "just a chip" if it's not the case. Nice troll...I mean, try, though. :)
tooocool49723 11-23-2004, 04:59 PM watch spike on saturday/sunday mornings, they have a show called "trucks". Every once in a while they do a diesel show.
Diesel engines love boost. They cant make turbochargers efficent enough to give them enough boost. Plus, I believe most modern day diesel trucks use direct injection, which is a MAJOR advantage when making use of boost.
Dont underestimate the diesel. Especially if it's blowing black smoke out the tailpipe.
bussard 11-23-2004, 05:19 PM [QUOTE=strangerq]Great run. But you shouldn't say "just a chip" if it's not the case. Nice troll...I mean, try, though. :)[/QUOTE
chip or chips, seam to be a bit touchy, to be name calling, :lol:
pleasenoSTIckershock 11-23-2004, 09:00 PM Sounds like you need to do some research on the subject.
Not this time ;)
bussard 11-23-2004, 09:19 PM i wil say these cars wrx really do perform well for thei sise, lot of technolgy in them as well :devil: cannot be taken lightly
AudiTTkiller 11-23-2004, 10:56 PM yeah its cool to have a 12 second truck, but that guy must get like 2 mpg- on the highway
bussard 11-24-2004, 12:31 AM yeah its cool to have a 12 second truck, but that guy must get like 2 mpg- on the highway
actually just the opposite, most guys are exsperiencing around the 20mpg with the mods, a bit better than stock :D
SGOSWRX 11-24-2004, 10:05 AM Is this or is this not the same red truck 2002 2500 HD 4X4 Crew Cab
that is running an upgrade Turbo, bolt ons, engine management, NOS, etc?
Thats like saying a stage 4 WRX + nos is just a wrx with a chip.
Is this or is this not the same red truck 2002 2500 HD 4X4 Crew Cab
that is running an upgrade Turbo, bolt ons, engine management, NOS, etc?
Thats like saying a stage 4 WRX + nos is just a wrx with a chip.
yes. you are correct sir. From the website:
Computer tuning, better flowing intake/air box and 4" exhaust helps the Duramax make over 500 rwhp on diesel fuel and over 600 rwhp spraying nitrous when drag racing
DJ_STI 11-24-2004, 10:38 AM i bet it handles around the turns like a champ.
bussard 11-24-2004, 11:22 AM their is no update out for the current turbo, hopefully in the future, neat to see what happens then, dodge boys are seeing huge numbers with that alone, stock duramax boost is 19psi, with the boxes it is about 32psi, hopfully a aftermarket will take to around 50psi, when they ever come out, major reason they say is the location under the hood, with the fire wall and ect.very close, :furious:
bussard 10-07-2007, 09:27 PM has there been any other races agaist the diesels lately
fourmicah 10-08-2007, 06:18 PM It could happen.
they'll gain over 150HP and over 200ft/lbs of torque with a good hand held programmer or custom tune. It wont be a superchips setup, but something along the lines of a predator, LS1EDIT, or HP Tuners software.
But then again, why brag about your setup to anyone? I'd rather keep the hidden tank of propane a secret if I had that on a deisel truck. ;)
Do they really leave that much on the table with them where they could gain that much without even changing out the exhaust?
Edit: I guess the rest of my question was answered with the post from the website.
Chp_Stix 10-08-2007, 06:27 PM i have yet to see a 'chipped' deisel run better then 14 but mostly because of our elevation and the fact they are all running 35" tires min. so i guess it could be done. Some of the guys though run deep in to the 12's and top of the 11's with their full set up. (Calgary AB, oil rig guys)
devb16a2vtec 10-08-2007, 06:32 PM http://videos.thefourwheelerpage.com/video/56783655-0322-4de7-8bd2-987c0000ede6.htm
self explanitory
brickhoss 10-08-2007, 06:37 PM Running 12's in any factory diesel truck is highly unlikely with just a chip. Although its not that hard to get there... (turbo, fuel pusher pump, tuner(s), injectors, supporting mods)... Some guys have put bigger turbos on and run ridiculous tuner setups w/out fuel mods, but I've seen quite a few trucks blow up that way. I'm not saying that its impossible, but highly unlikely without at least a turbo and/or fuel upgrades.
fourmicah 10-08-2007, 07:02 PM http://videos.thefourwheelerpage.com/video/56783655-0322-4de7-8bd2-987c0000ede6.htm
self explanitory
1000 HP and 1700 Ft/lbs. gave him a 10.59? That thing must weight a ton, anyone have any idea how much a truck like that actually weights? 5000lbs. is my guess.
Diesels seriously own. 30-35:1 compression and 100+ psi of boost <-- of COURSE those things are moving, even in a 5-8000 pound truck :)
silver-duck 10-08-2007, 07:17 PM about 7000 lbs
i bet it handles around the turns like a champ.
:lol: really... do we have to be hating on the TRUCKS? These are trucks, for christ's sake. I bet our EVO/STI handles towing 10,000 pounds like a champ
PaulRex 10-08-2007, 07:30 PM in that link that guy with the green f350 says he runs 135psi! thats about 115psi of boost more than my engine lol
simon021 10-08-2007, 07:46 PM that f350 in the link is ****in insano. 135psi of boost i bet it sounds like a jet
1SIKWRX4U2NV 10-08-2007, 07:59 PM a firefighter friend of mine has a lifted chevy silverado on 37's that he uses to tow his track car around. Ironically that thing gets better gas mileage than my wrx EVER did cruising around town. The last time he brought his supra to the track some dumb bastard bet him 5k bucks his modded mustang (five-point-slow) would light his doors. Sadly for him, that wasn't the case...my friends truck ended the day running a 11.64 in the 1/4 and 5k bucks richer.
(I have to laugh when i look back at it...his lifted truck beating up on that mustang was like watching someone beat up on a kid in a wheelchair...he never even had a chance!)
SilverSurfer04STi 10-08-2007, 11:14 PM is that your best excuses :banana:
just to state the mods, intake and exhaust(exhaust was not really needed) and two boxes,( some do the same with a single box) did have a little bottle for that run, without the bottle add a half of second(12.8)
another nice thing if the track is a fair ways away you can always haul the fithwheel their, weight for this truck is around the 7700lbs, what is the weight of the wrx?
Take the bottle off and run these guys (they run a TBE and tuned for race gas). MY06 STi weighs 3298 with all liquids full. Seems like about even modding, right?
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1356463
All vehicles can be made fast. All vehicles can be beat including your "chipped freight wagon"....
The OP in that above thread runs an 11.7 ET. No Nitrous. Race gas and minor mods along with the stock turbo.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1227797
Don't get me wrong, I like what they're doing with the truck. Just personal preference on where you want to start. I personally don't want a fast truck. I want a fast car. To each their own.
soon2bblackongold 10-08-2007, 11:23 PM i missed a shift once and got beat by one :lol:
UltimateLurker 10-08-2007, 11:44 PM In my area there are a lot of Rednecks that think their trucks are fast, and they last about 3 feet, too bad there isn't something like this around for me to play with.
z&cobb 10-09-2007, 12:39 AM It could happen.
they'll gain over 150HP and over 200ft/lbs of torque with a good hand held programmer or custom tune. It wont be a superchips setup, but something along the lines of a predator, LS1EDIT, or HP Tuners software.
But then again, why brag about your setup to anyone? I'd rather keep the hidden tank of propane a secret if I had that on a deisel truck. ;)
Power gains of up to 40% with propane or LPG fumigation. Anyone interested can look that up.:alien:
Makes me wonder what a small turbo diesel wrx would do? Isn't that in the works for Subaru?
last time I was at the dragstrip in Byron, Il there was a chevrolet diesel truck that was running mid 11's. It was pretty cool, and the best part was that it towed a car to the track.
Sweet. :)
devb16a2vtec 10-09-2007, 02:33 AM Id love to have that F350. I like going off-roading and "muddin"(call me redneck, I dont care) and I love going fast in a straight line. It might not be able to go into a turn that fast, but for something of its size/weight..its very respectable. Oh, and you can tow your mobile home with you too. Id love to see what it runs with a 30ft mobile home trailer on it :lol:
bussard 10-09-2007, 12:29 PM i run a 12.0 with my 07lbz all day long with just a turbo, ppe chip and tranny upgrade in medicine hat
now add nitrous and she would be low 11s, my buddys cummins runs low 10s...
soon2bblackongold 10-09-2007, 01:24 PM In my area there are a lot of Rednecks that think their trucks are fast, and they last about 3 feet, too bad there isn't something like this around for me to play with.
wait till you get beat by one...some people are EXXXXTREME :lol::D
devb16a2vtec 10-09-2007, 03:34 PM wait till you get beat by one...some people are EXXXXTREME :lol::D
thats only a bunch of urban kayaker's in a lifted bright orange bronco :lol:
mxpunk 10-09-2007, 11:13 PM when are we gonna see a impreza with a diesel motor that pushes omega boost?!?
swi99 10-10-2007, 02:36 AM saw a supercharged cobra get beat about half a cars length by a big turbo diesel..def. mad power
caser 10-10-2007, 04:11 PM 136 psi!!! I thought 36 psi was alot of boost.
bussard 10-10-2007, 07:14 PM video of my buddys cummins
http://www.nadp.ca/videos.html
i will try in figure out how to add one of my own
bgd73 10-10-2007, 09:29 PM I love the thought of diesel performance.RPMS stay way way down. The stroke has to be big, hence a big engine, big vehicle doing bigger things. I hate the little engines attempting it...
I wonder if they will have a fuel change just for little engines, between deisel and gasoline.
In just the past 15 years (I have been around rigs my whole life). The changes are phenomonal and reactions to the track times are surprising even now.
From 60 mph "to the hammer" with 40 tons on to shifting just 9 gears today into an 8% grade and feeling your belly drop to no slow down with the same weight is incredible (for me anyway- imagine going to florida in a 1978 freightliner .) Not to mention "burying the needle" .
I like the trucks, no redneck stereotypes coming from me. The standard for fast leaves 11 seconds 1/4 fast for everybody.. ya know what I mean? regardless of what is really straining and what really has power, the guts of it all is surrounded by standards. :rolleyes:
shvrdavid 10-10-2007, 09:59 PM bgd73, not to pick, but...
The stroke doesn't have to be big...
The engine doesn't have to be big either...
If you don't believe me, look at Audi's R10 race car...
Its a diesel, its small, and it is detuned...
It only makes 800 ft/lbs of torque, detuned...
Unlimited tune makes more power than most big rigs ever dreamed of...
Diesel performance is just getting started, and it is here to stay...
bussard 10-11-2007, 02:40 PM as for my buddys cummins he runs twin turbos making over 100psi boost.... lets just say alot of air
as for his weight... over 7000lbs... hp over 1300hp@2000tq
Phatron 10-11-2007, 04:43 PM Wow a 3 year old troll came back to play?
You guys realize this thread was from 04 right and he brought her back
WRXDriftR 10-11-2007, 09:24 PM thread from 2004 :lol:
My friend has a turbo diesel jetta. its slow as a tug boat with no fuel, and smells even worse
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