This isn't me bragging about how powerful my car is, it's me bragging about the great job PDX Tuning did on it. Today they tuned my car and it's not just the tune but the way they treated everyone there and went about their business.

Anyway, my car is a bone stock 2004 sti and with an ecutek reflash and a dyno tune, they got an additional 32.8 horses and 45.5 ft-lbs to the wheels over the stock dyno run. That torque is noticeable. Riding with Tim after the dyno tune it felt good, but I didn't appreciate how much smoother and stronger it felt until on the way home going up 26. I had a chance to stand on it in 4th from about 3000 rpm or so as the right lane opened up and I moved over and gave it the go juice. It pulls much stronger now, it definitely feels like a new car. It's amazing how much better over the stock ecu programming this feels. It's no monster sti compared to some of the heavily modified cars they've tuned by any means, but the difference is definitely there. It also feels to me somewhat smoother while doing it also. I am very happy as I didn't expect increases like that from a totally stock sti, and also am happy with the smoothness of the tune. Very, very nice.

Anyway, these guys deserve a lot of respect, I'll definitely be referring as many people as I can their way.

Here's the dyno plot:

http://www.2004WrxSti.us/images/dyno/12_04_04_dyno_opt.jpg

Thanks again, guys.

One thing I forgot to ask them was what kind of max boost I'm running now.

no bad for just an ecutek reflash.
was this on 91 octane?.

another question u might want to ask is about the calibrated weight and HP@50mph.
dont know if that would make much of a diff since the mustang dyno we use down here has different values.

No need to know the boost... Its unimportant.

:lol:

~v6

Couldn't agree more. I was there as well, had my Stage 4 WRX tuned (258whp). Couldn't be happier, not only with the results of my tune (feels incredible), but the PDX Tuning guys are fantastic. They are knowledgeable, friendly/approachable, professional, and dedicated. Can'tsay how much I appreciate the time and attention to detail I (and my car) received this weekend. Thanks a ton to the entire PDX crew!

Good advice V6Turbo

No need to know the boost... Its unimportant.

:lol:

~v6

So it's wrong to be curious about what's going on under the hood now? I don't see anything unusual in wanting to understand the differences between stock and now.

As I said, I'm not here to try to impress anyone with a stock powertrain sti, I'm here to thank PdxTuning for getting decent hp and tq and a smoother pulling engine with nothing more than a tune. These guys build monster sti's and tune cars with over 400 whp all the time and yet they treated my car and my tune with the attention and care they'd give any other. They enjoy working with owners of all levels of cars and aren't HP snobs at all. I think their attitude stands as a good example, btw. Unimportant to you? Maybe. To them? Not based on what I saw.

HP at 50 mph is 13.20. 92 octane. Weight is 3125.

Couldn't agree more. I was there as well, had my Stage 4 WRX tuned (258whp). Couldn't be happier, not only with the results of my tune (feels incredible), but the PDX Tuning guys are fantastic. They are knowledgeable, friendly/approachable, professional, and dedicated. Can'tsay how much I appreciate the time and attention to detail I (and my car) received this weekend. Thanks a ton to the entire PDX crew!

What time were you there?

So it's wrong to be curious about what's going on under the hood now? I don't see anything unusual in wanting to understand the differences between stock and now.


Sounds like a good way to justify installing a boost gauge.

Sounds like a good way to justify installing a boost gauge.

It does. It's just one more thing on the list. I'm obviously not a guy who's going to dump a ton of money into it overnight though. But I'll get to it. :D

I think you're very wise for wanting to know the boost...I can only assume that V6Turbo was being sarcastic. He does seem to have a reputation for saying dumb things.

I'm loosely affiliated with PDXTuning...I'm sure they would be more than happy to share with you the boost they've tuned for.

I think you're very wise for wanting to know the boost...I can only assume that V6Turbo was being sarcastic. He does seem to have a reputation for saying dumb things.

I'm loosely affiliated with PDXTuning...I'm sure they would be more than happy to share with you the boost they've tuned for.

Yeah, that's why I pointed out to him that the guys who did a good job tuning my car aren't HP snobs. He could learn something from them. It's disappointing that this kind of attitude is present among so called "enthusiasts" but I shouldn't be surprised. I would say if you're someone who doesn't care about a car with only 270 whp, feel free to just ignore the thread. ;)

Anyway, I have no doubt they'd share all that info and more with me, I'm just going to wait a little while before I bother them about it. They are a really busy bunch of guys as you'd expect from people with their knowledge and attitudes towards their customers. :) But I've no doubt they're more than happy to discuss what they did. They gave me a ton of info yesterday as it was!

v6 was being sarcastic. the :lol: im sure was there to show he was kidding.

the boys at PDX (jeff) contribute a lot to this board...and we all benefit from the r&d theyve done.

Radar, I'm glad that you like the Ecutek. It seems that just about any form of engine management helps "smooth" everything out really well. Hey, welcome to the 270 hp club:)



Mika

So it's wrong to be curious about what's going on under the hood now? I don't see anything unusual in wanting to understand the differences between stock and now.

As I said, I'm not here to try to impress anyone with a stock powertrain sti, I'm here to thank PdxTuning for getting decent hp and tq and a smoother pulling engine with nothing more than a tune. These guys build monster sti's and tune cars with over 400 whp all the time and yet they treated my car and my tune with the attention and care they'd give any other. They enjoy working with owners of all levels of cars and aren't HP snobs at all. I think their attitude stands as a good example, btw. Unimportant to you? Maybe. To them? Not based on what I saw.

HP at 50 mph is 13.20. 92 octane. Weight is 3125.

Of course there is nothing wrong with any question about your tune. I would have to check the datalogs, but most of the stage 1ish cars are around 16-18psi peak, and rolling down towards redline. Some Stage 2s get much better results at only 15-16psi with a bit more advanace, while others seem to work with a bit more boost.

Even after driving 450whp, a good Stage 1 tune feels really good. Very smooth on power delivery, and easy to drive hard. On a rainy day, there are times you wish for a bit less binary power delivery. ;)

As for the HP@50 and the weight, those variables don't typically change the end results peak numbers, but can alter how fast the car spools up. With those settings, a 4th gear pull on the dyno is a bit faster then on the road, which has the unfortunate downside of shower less low end torque. We have experimented with them, and typically uses the constant load techinque when tuning anyways (which is far better). As well, the Mustang can hold the car at a fixed rpm which is great for detailed map work.

Most of all, thanks for all of the great comments. Saturday was a great tuning day, and we all had a blast!

Jeff Sponaugle
PDXTuning.com

I was tuned by PDX yesterday as well and they did a great job with my car. Pulled out 282 whp and 282 wtq. UTEC, TBE, intake and front mount intalled. All the guys at PDX are great and answered everyone of my questions. Told me to call them up anytime I had a question. Thanks guys!

Ryan

What time were you there?

Most of the day... tho not as long as the PDX guys.

After my red WRX was tuned early in the morning, I spent the rest of the day watching the dyno sessions (Matrix's garage is well setup for spectating) and hanging out with all the other drivers.

I'm stoked on the +30whp/t you netted with ECUtek alone. Awesome to make such a good thing that much better! Gives me something to look forward to a few years down the road when I step up to the STi. : )

I got my car tuned this weekend as well by PDX. Those guys are awesome! They even take the time to ask quesitons like when you last changed your fuel filter, spark plugs and what not, shows that they care and are professional. I ended up with 230hp and 214tq with a Monster TD04 from Deadbolt, which is nothing more than a P&P stock turbo! (I have other mods, but don't want to hijack thread with my tune)

Oh, PDX, is there any way to get the dyno graph? I'd asked Tim for it ... but Jeff took me for a ride in my newly tuned car and I got really excited and forgot :)

This isn't me bragging about how powerful my car is, it's me bragging about the great job PDX Tuning did on it. Today they tuned my car and it's not just the tune but the way they treated everyone there and went about their business.

Anyway, my car is a bone stock 2004 sti and with an ecutek reflash and a dyno tune, they got an additional 32.8 horses and 45.5 ft-lbs to the wheels over the stock dyno run. That torque is noticeable. Riding with Tim after the dyno tune it felt good, but I didn't appreciate how much smoother and stronger it felt until on the way home going up 26. I had a chance to stand on it in 4th from about 3000 rpm or so as the right lane opened up and I moved over and gave it the go juice. It pulls much stronger now, it definitely feels like a new car. It's amazing how much better over the stock ecu programming this feels. It's no monster sti compared to some of the heavily modified cars they've tuned by any means, but the difference is definitely there. It also feels to me somewhat smoother while doing it also. I am very happy as I didn't expect increases like that from a totally stock sti, and also am happy with the smoothness of the tune. Very, very nice.

Anyway, these guys deserve a lot of respect, I'll definitely be referring as many people as I can their way.

Here's the dyno plot:

http://tinyurl.com/3vcvy

Thanks again, guys.

One thing I forgot to ask them was what kind of max boost I'm running now.


Bone stock?? NO exhaust?

Bone stock?? NO exhaust?

That is correct. Bone stock, no exhaust, etc. This is our stage 1 map, which we have sold many of to people all over the US. The Stage 1 setup is the easiest to make consistant across different kinds of gas etc. Pump fuel here is 92 octane, winter mix. (up to 10% eth). Obviously the EcuTek technology keeps the factory learning, so I would suspect just a bit more power on 93 or 94 octane, and a bit less on 91 octane.

Jeff Sponaugle
PDXTuning.com

What hp does a stock wrx put down on your mustang dyno?

What hp does a stock wrx put down on your mustang dyno?

A stock WRX usually does in the 165-175 range. A few have done more, and a few have done less. Stock STIs, as can been seen in the baseline for this car, are usually in the 235 to 245 range.

Jeff Sponaugle
PDXTuning.com

Oh, PDX, is there any way to get the dyno graph? I'd asked Tim for it ... but Jeff took me for a ride in my newly tuned car and I got really excited and forgot :)

I am 90% sure we grabbed a copy of that before we left, but I will have to check with Jeff and Tim to be sure. Even if we do not we will get you a copy.


Jarrad
PDXTuning

I got my car tuned this weekend as well by PDX. Those guys are awesome! They even take the time to ask quesitons like when you last changed your fuel filter, spark plugs and what not, shows that they care and are professional. I ended up with 230hp and 214tq with a Monster TD04 from Deadbolt, which is nothing more than a P&P stock turbo! (I have other mods, but don't want to hijack thread with my tune)

Don't worry about a hijack. :) I think you came off the dyno right before I went on? I was talking to you about emissions and you said you don't have to do that where you live? You had the headers my friend was asking about.

I was tuned by PDX yesterday as well and they did a great job with my car. Pulled out 282 whp and 282 wtq. UTEC, TBE, intake and front mount intalled.

I think you were up as we were leaving. Your car have a Perrin exhaust (aka, bleeding eardrum device :lol: )?

I can say nothing but good things about PDXTuning. They are one of the most knowledgable group of guys around. They are consistently pushing the limits of the cars so others can benefit from their experience (I don't know if this is intentional but I benefit fromit anyways). PDXTuning tuned my Green setup for me and I was really happy. Here's my dyno results. The first one is on pump gas and the second is on race gas. I forget how much boost I was running but I think it was like 22psi? (Correct me if I'm wrong Tim) My engine mods consist of:

Perrin exhaust
Perrin DP
Perrin turbo inlet
Perrin Big-MAF
Perrin Crank Pulley
Perrin FMIC
Perrin modded injectors
Perrin fuel rail
HKS BOV
EcuTek
UTEC
Aquamist WI
(I know...I'm a Perrin whore)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/nwdriftking/Dyno%20Sheets/scan0001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/nwdriftking/Dyno%20Sheets/b236a024.jpg

Tony

That is correct. Bone stock, no exhaust, etc. This is our stage 1 map, which we have sold many of to people all over the US. The Stage 1 setup is the easiest to make consistant across different kinds of gas etc. Pump fuel here is 92 octane, winter mix. (up to 10% eth). Obviously the EcuTek technology keeps the factory learning, so I would suspect just a bit more power on 93 or 94 octane, and a bit less on 91 octane.

Jeff Sponaugle
PDXTuning.com

Hot damn that's one hell of a tune. I'm *barely* more than HP that with a downpipe included. I do have quite a bit more torque, but holy christ. Nice job guys!

Sergi

Don't worry about a hijack. :) I think you came off the dyno right before I went on? I was talking to you about emissions and you said you don't have to do that where you live? You had the headers my friend was asking about.

Yeah, that was me :) Those guys really know what they're doing! Nice numbers :)

I think you were up as we were leaving. Your car have a Perrin exhaust (aka, bleeding eardrum device :lol: )?
Um, yeah, that would be me. I find myself searching out parking garages everywhere I go:lol:

Ryan

PDX Tuning are the best. They worked on my car for hours trying to figure out what the problem was, unfortunately there wasnt enough time to correct it and get max power out.

These guys had put their heart and soul into getting my car right and I can't thank them enough (although I think I know how :devil: ).

What was wrong with your car, blinguskahn?

Plugged Cat. Only put down 327 and made no power above 6K. Easy fix though and the torque is at 328 so I am happy until I fix that.

power curve looks good, torque looks good, gain looks good. its great and congrats. and props to PDX, seems like a great tuner.

One thing:
My tuner uses 3400 lbs as weight which makes sense as the car weighs 32xx + 1xx driver = 3400 lbs. Now Mustang dyno specially uses (i don't know exactly the detail) the car weight to LOAD the car during the pull. I am not sure but I wonder if this makes big difference in the HP readings. Since at my tuners Mustang dyno most stock STi's make about 200~210 my car with stock turbo tuned has made 262 hp / 286 lb-ft.

Not accusing anything or claiming i know anything...i'm just asking a question and want to learn.

Thanks

Hmm. Good question on the car weight. I'd have to let Jeff or Tim answer that. I don't know the answer.

power curve looks good, torque looks good, gain looks good. its great and congrats. and props to PDX, seems like a great tuner.

One thing:
My tuner uses 3400 lbs as weight which makes sense as the car weighs 32xx + 1xx driver = 3400 lbs. Now Mustang dyno specially uses (i don't know exactly the detail) the car weight to LOAD the car during the pull. I am not sure but I wonder if this makes big difference in the HP readings. Since at my tuners Mustang dyno most stock STi's make about 200~210 my car with stock turbo tuned has made 262 hp / 286 lb-ft.

Not accusing anything or claiming i know anything...i'm just asking a question and want to learn.

Thanks

The mustang dyno uses two parameters on the hp/torque test pass screen. One is the vehical weight, the other is the HP@50mph. The purpose of these loads is to provide realtime loading (not just the weight of the drums), so the car runs similiar on the dyno to what it does on the road.

From my limited playing, it appears making those numbers higher results is greater load, which results in higher low end torque as a result of the boost building better.. It may also offet the higher end power, but I have not confirmed this. This is one of the many reasons comments like 'golly that torque is low' have less merit then percieved, at least without some careful analysis. We will be testing this during the week to see the true effect. I will of course post back the results.

Jeff

yea ^ what you just said makes alot of sense. i should say...i have pretty much everything (i.e. CAI, FMIC, TBE etc) minus the Turbo.