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dumdum
01-01-2005, 09:54 PM
I bought my car used.It had 60,000 miles.It has minor performance upgrades(Cobb AP at stage1 and silicone hoses) that i added.The car was totally stock when bought.Lately i been noticing when i've been in 4th or 5th and punch it the revs go up and then settle back down.The car doesn't go any faster untill the revs drop and then it goes.I've driven tons of manual trannies and have never experienced this.I'm assuming this is the clutch starting to slip?I've owned 5 cars with manual trannies and have never had clutch problems or have had to change a clutch.I thought maybe i was geting boost spikes but i would imagine the car would be trying to take of like a bat out of hell.It is the original clutch and i wasn't sure how long they usually last.It doesn't happen in the lower gears.

Mulder
01-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Yes it's slipping and you'll have to replace it. The life expectancy of the clutch depends on how the car was driven and you unfortunately had no control over that for the first 60K.

dumdum
01-01-2005, 10:13 PM
Thank you!

Sublime5260
01-01-2005, 10:20 PM
my car has 27k on it and the clutch is aldready starting to slip. this is kinda weird cuz i dont really rag on it all that much. i've been having an alignment problem, and all my tires are worn unevenly. Could that be a cause?

Mulder
01-01-2005, 10:32 PM
Alignment has nothing to do with how long the clutch lasts. Wear on the clutch only occurs when it is being slipped, during takeoff and shifting. When you are just driving along in gear there is no wear taking place, unless you rest your foot on the pedal.

dan avoN7
01-01-2005, 11:00 PM
26k on my stock clutch and tranny. Had a vf30 w/ supporting mods up until 2k miles ago and my clutch is still great. Getting the kingpin gt kit soon and that will be interesting to see on the stock clutch :) hopefully everything will hold fine till summer when i can afford a 6 speed.

Charlie-III
01-02-2005, 06:30 AM
96K of sorta hard use. I had to replace due to a rear crank seal leaking.

2002WRXSTi
01-02-2005, 05:12 PM
I had a stock settup with a Spec-C and JDM 6 speed and it was fine up to 28k when the VF30 compressor seal started to leak oil into the intake air.

Swapped to a Green and the clutch just slipped. Went aftermarket and that one slipped too :rolleyes: So I just had a new stocker I had here with 1k miles on it put in and that one slips! :mad:

Mike Wevrick
01-03-2005, 12:43 AM
170k on the original clutch in my 95 Legacy. :banana:

Sublime5260
01-03-2005, 03:27 AM
Alignment has nothing to do with how long the clutch lasts. Wear on the clutch only occurs when it is being slipped, during takeoff and shifting. When you are just driving along in gear there is no wear taking place, unless you rest your foot on the pedal.

i have a really bad habit of resting my foot on the pedal, I never realize that i'm doing it. i need to watch out...

kickitjp
01-03-2005, 03:32 AM
I bought my car used.It had 60,000 miles.It has minor performance upgrades(Cobb AP at stage1 and silicone hoses) that i added.The car was totally stock when bought.Lately i been noticing when i've been in 4th or 5th and punch it the revs go up and then settle back down.The car doesn't go any faster untill the revs drop and then it goes.I've driven tons of manual trannies and have never experienced this.I'm assuming this is the clutch starting to slip?I've owned 5 cars with manual trannies and have never had clutch problems or have had to change a clutch.I thought maybe i was geting boost spikes but i would imagine the car would be trying to take of like a bat out of hell.It is the original clutch and i wasn't sure how long they usually last.It doesn't happen in the lower gears.

I have this same problem...and some here told me it could be the speed sensor crappin out. Now I have no idea.

Al_Smokemcrack
01-03-2005, 03:43 AM
128k on my bud's Legacy before it got slippery.

ydant
01-03-2005, 01:04 PM
36,001k on mine. Actually, it was broken from the getgo, but I didn't realize it since I didn't drive any other WRXs. VERY stiff from mile 0, but I didn't realize that was not normal... Took it in to be looked at, and ended up buying a new one - wasn't slipping yet, though.

ScoobyNubieToo!
01-03-2005, 01:17 PM
7,000 miles ...I bought my car with 150 miles on it. It was driven to my dealership from another one. I think the lot boy beat the hell outta my clutch on the transport up because my clutch smelled like it was burning from day one even on easy driving. After a battle with Subie dealer (and a $50 bill in the service writer and mechanics's pocket) I got my new clutch. I've driven it 1200 miles since then and even on 4,500 clutch dumps I've never smelled clutch burn. HHHMMMMM.....

Psydotek
01-03-2005, 02:28 PM
51k miles on my car. Clutch is fine so far. I had another thread about this topic somewhere... :) But my miles are mostly freeway driving. But i'm ready with the $$$ when the time for a new clutch comes around...

WRXskeet
01-03-2005, 02:41 PM
my clutch went out on last week, 49 k on the Clock.......

Sublime5260
01-03-2005, 07:18 PM
I believe they now have a redesigned clutch out for the WRX. Will someone go through the trouble of listing what all was wrong with the original clutch?

Mulder
01-03-2005, 07:22 PM
There was an update to address the shudder problem in the earlier WRX's. I'm not sure what the particular changes were to the disc and plate, but the flywheel is heavier. This wouldn't have any significant effect on longevity or wear though, that's still mainly determined by how the car is driven.
There is also a damper in the clutch hydraulic system that was added in 03, its purpose is to prevent transmission damage from high-RPM clutch dumps by not allowing it to be released all at once.

Rocketcar
01-03-2005, 11:52 PM
I have an early 02 WRX Picked up from dealer in April 2001. Got 65k on stock clutch. Replaced in October with Centerforce Dual Friction. I heard some complaints about the Centerforce, but I took Dan's advice at Harman Motive and the thing has been flawless :D

Performance Driven
01-04-2005, 09:32 AM
bought my 02 in august of 01 and so far have 99600 miles.
still running stock clutch and tranny.

beefyib123
01-04-2005, 09:33 AM
I got my WRX in Apr. of last year with 30K on the clock. about a week after i got it i went stage 2. the clutch lasted till last week when i replaced it with 45 K on the clock.

Sublime5260
01-04-2005, 09:35 PM
did anyone in here who got their clutches replaced get them replaced under warranty?

majmun
01-04-2005, 11:00 PM
I had my clutch replaced under warranty at 15k for clutch shudder on my '02. I put another 35K on it before I sold the car (no problems with the clutch at all).

Sublime5260
01-05-2005, 03:37 AM
I had my clutch replaced under warranty at 15k for clutch shudder on my '02. I put another 35K on it before I sold the car (no problems with the clutch at all).

Was your car modified at all?


And also, has anyone who had a slipping clutch get it replaced under warranty?

makofoto
01-05-2005, 06:42 AM
28K on my Stage 1+ SM WRX ... four drag racing events, 100's of AX runs, 160 in Sept/Oct. alone, and no problems. But I've just ordered an Exedy Sport clutch and lightened flywheel to replace the oem ones. I don't want the clutch to start slipping at an important event.

ScoobyNubieToo!
01-05-2005, 08:06 AM
did anyone in here who got their clutches replaced get them replaced under warranty?
I got my clutch replaced by dealer on my '04 wagon at 7,000 under warranty but it wasn't easy...

majmun
01-05-2005, 06:00 PM
Was your car modified at all?


And also, has anyone who had a slipping clutch get it replaced under warranty?


The only power mod was AECU Stg 1.

AK_2002_WRX
01-06-2005, 02:36 AM
had nearly 40,000miles on my clutch in my old WRX before trade in. i've been to the drag strip quite a bit with moderate 3500-4500 slips, i've autocrossed, and i've rallied it like crazy in the winters that i've had it, and it was still strong when i traded it in, no slipping at all:cool:

Max Umbarger
01-06-2005, 03:16 AM
I just had mine replaced at 50,050 miles. Started noticing clutch going slowly, then all of a sudden, GONE, it just totally quit holding 4th/5th gear. Surprised me it would quit do fast!

I replaced with exedy stage1

now that i have some mileage on the new clutch, I love it!

Launching is different, tho, more jerky but i am getting better at getting it smooth.

>>>max

Sublime5260
01-06-2005, 03:34 AM
yeah, my slippage is in the very very early stages. itll go soon.

PaulRex
01-06-2005, 12:54 PM
MY02 Wrx -240ish whp.

Stock Clutch - 25k miles and it was done
STi organic+JUN flywheel - 25k miles and the clutch & flywheel were both done
Exedy Organic Sport w/stock flywheel - still going with about 15k+ miles on it

Transmission - 70k miles on it

SBW
01-06-2005, 01:57 PM
I was a txs stg4 at about 19k miles, more upgrades at 30k and dynoed 308whp.

50k miles now on the Stock clutch, with more than a few launches(always slipping) and no problems. Never got the shudder problem fixed when the car is cold, because it was never a bad enough problem for me. I consider myself lucky.

dano
01-08-2005, 07:39 PM
84k on my mostly stock 02... clutch doesn't slip at all, i don't even get any shudder.

*note: every day i drive is kind of like my own personal autocross

WrXOut02
01-09-2005, 02:11 PM
02 wrx 40k miles as soon as i put AP stage 2 a week later started slipping thinking of getting Exedy Sport Clutch how is that clutch and also would the lightened flywheel make a big difference i already have the lighter crank pulley

blackie
01-09-2005, 03:01 PM
35,000 27,000 with 290whp, no problems at all. although i do get this wierd synchro whining noise coming out of 1st gear but thats been happening sense like 10,000 miles, i guess i just have louder synchro noise due to the tranny fluid i use.

ScoobyNubieToo!
01-09-2005, 04:44 PM
02 wrx 40k miles as soon as i put AP stage 2 a week later started slipping thinking of getting Exedy Sport Clutch how is that clutch and also would the lightened flywheel make a big difference i already have the lighter crank pulleyI don't know how far these guys are from you, but it might be worth the drive 'cause I don't think you can find a better deal anywhere else and they do top notch work.
http://www.precisiontuning.com/services.htm
Exedy Sport Clutch - $695.00 (incl. installation)
Exedy Sport Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel - $1025.00 (incl. installation)