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Killian Maynard
01-09-2005, 10:00 PM
Are there any options for the stock WRX up pipe or alternative units that will maintain the factory warranty? I realize that unless SOA can link an issue to an aftermarket piece your ok (although it seems like anything can be linked to anything with SOA). Or this a cut and dry, you remove the UP cat any problem will be linked to that and warranty denied!

What are your opinions on using an STI up pipe in a wrx? How easily would the dealer be able to spot that? Or a gutted stock pipe?

I really want to go with a catless up pipe but I also dont want to run into any warranty issues if that situation presented itself. Suggestions (besides pay to play :D )

armand1
01-10-2005, 03:11 AM
Presumably you want the catless up pipe for more power. More power than OEM means likely denial of powertrain coverage under warranty. So, unless you want an up pipe alternative that doesn't increase power, don't do power mods if you don't want Subaru to mod your warranty. ;)

Killian Maynard
01-10-2005, 04:15 PM
Presumably you want the catless up pipe for more power. More power than OEM means likely denial of powertrain coverage under warranty. So, unless you want an up pipe alternative that doesn't increase power, don't do power mods if you don't want Subaru to mod your warranty. ;)

I realize that there isnt alot of room to work with these kinds of things. So what uppipe alternatives are there that dont add power if any?

SubaruCO
01-10-2005, 04:24 PM
I realize that there isnt alot of room to work with these kinds of things. So what uppipe alternatives are there that dont add power if any?

So what's the point then? Really, the ONLY reason to add an uppipe is to extract more power (peak or under the curve). So if you're after an uppipe because you can say, "Dude, I've got an uppipe!" then you're better off installing some LED washer nozzles. I'm quite sure those won't cause any issues with your warranty.

mcowger
01-10-2005, 04:38 PM
So what's the point then? Really, the ONLY reason to add an uppipe is to extract more power (peak or under the curve). So if you're after an uppipe because you can say, "Dude, I've got an uppipe!" then you're better off installing some LED washer nozzles. I'm quite sure those won't cause any issues with your warranty.

Come on! They'd void your entire windshield washer system and all of its electrical harnesses for that! You KNOW they would :).

Killian Maynard
01-10-2005, 04:57 PM
So what's the point then? Really, the ONLY reason to add an uppipe is to extract more power (peak or under the curve). So if you're after an uppipe because you can say, "Dude, I've got an uppipe!" then you're better off installing some LED washer nozzles. I'm quite sure those won't cause any issues with your warranty.

Well I'm glad you just assume that I plan on installing parts for bragging rights only. :lol: Thats pretty funny, so what is your opinion on BOV's? Just joking. Obviously I dont want the cat in there for the increased performance. Also once my warranty runs out I would feel a lot more comfortable knowing that there isnt a catylitic converter or EGT sensor 6 inches away from my turbo that could become sucked into it costing my a butt load more money than a catless uppipe.

SubaruCO
01-10-2005, 05:32 PM
Well I'm glad you just assume that I plan on installing parts for bragging rights only. :lol: Thats pretty funny, so what is your opinion on BOV's? Just joking. Obviously I dont want the cat in there for the increased performance. Also once my warranty runs out I would feel a lot more comfortable knowing that there isnt a catylitic converter or EGT sensor 6 inches away from my turbo that could become sucked into it costing my a butt load more money than a catless uppipe.

Well yes, I did just assume. I don't think I was that far outta line though given the nature of your posts. I agree that the uppipe is a bad location for things like cats to be located, and (shh, don't tell SOA but I ditched mine w/ less than 10k on the car) it is an ultimate pont of failure.

Still, if you want an uppipe and don't want more power because you still want full powertrain coverage then there is really no need for the uppipe while SOA is still covering the warranty. To me, if a part goes on a car with no hard evidence of improvement in some performance aspect then that part is for bragging rights only.

WRX Jim
01-10-2005, 09:43 PM
gut ur stock upipe :)

Killian Maynard
01-10-2005, 10:13 PM
Well yes, I did just assume. I don't think I was that far outta line though given the nature of your posts. I agree that the uppipe is a bad location for things like cats to be located, and (shh, don't tell SOA but I ditched mine w/ less than 10k on the car) it is an ultimate pont of failure.

Still, if you want an uppipe and don't want more power because you still want full powertrain coverage then there is really no need for the uppipe while SOA is still covering the warranty. To me, if a part goes on a car with no hard evidence of improvement in some performance aspect then that part is for bragging rights only.

It may be for some but the way I "mod" my cars, I extract the most power out of the factories engineering without altering any internal or core components (with the exception of EM) Basically everything works better when combined as a whole package. From the hacked res box to high flow filter, silicon intake hose, silcon intercooler hose, catless uppipe to high flow cat 3" TBE with engine management. That would extract a safe amount of power from the factory setup without putting too much extra stress on the mechanical components. It would be fully capable of lasting a couple hundred thousand miles. I think having a 'flat" spot in the engine cycle would actually cause more problems. For example having a TBE and silicon hoses and leaving the uppipe cat intact would cause a serious bottleneck effect in the system where as having a catless uppipe would continue that flow running less risk of damage.
We could argue this back and forth all day as it has been numerou times here. I just thought id get others opinions on what theyve done in this same situation. I know that if I were to successfully submit a warranty claim with a gutted upipe it would be the wrong thing to do. On the other hand There is a reason I buy Subarus and its not for their great warranties :D

armand1
01-10-2005, 10:34 PM
... silicon intake hose, silcon intercooler hose, ...
You might want to swap those out for silicone hoses, since silicon, being a hard crystalline semiconductor, isn't a very good hose material. ;)

Killian Maynard
01-10-2005, 10:38 PM
th3 3 do3snt work on my k3yboard. Or I'm just r3tard3d! But thanks W3bst3r