Yup that's right!

AZP and RacingBrake have gotten together to bring you the ultimate brake upgrade for your WRX or other late-model Subaru!!!!

http://TeamIAC.com along with AZP has been testing these calipers for the past 4-5 months at tracks throughout the Northeast as well as putting on almost 20K miles on them in daily driving in and around NYC.

Features:
o 50% Weight Reduction over Subaru 4-pot Calipers
o Fit under the OEM WRX Wheels
o Better Pedal Feel
o RacingBrake will be offering a larger-2piece Rotor and bracket to upgrade these this coming spring
o Uses Subaru/300zx 4-piston Pads
o More corrosion Resistant due to Aluminum Material

These will be ready for shipping within a week, pics are up on our site!

RacingBrake AZP 4-Piston Caliper Page (http://AZPInstalls.com/racingbrake/4pot)
http://AZPInstalls.com

Pricing:
Calipers w/Hawk HPS Pads: $850
Calipers w/Hawk HPS Pads and RacingBrake Street Slotted Rotors: $999

-mike

Street Rotor-Pad-Install Packages:

Street Front WRX Rotors:
Hawk HPS Street Pads
Installation @ our Shop
Total: $340
w/o Install: $245 ready to ship
HP+ Pads instead: add $55
SS Lines: add $120
ATE Super Blue Fluid: add $13
Drilled Rotors: Add $15

Street 4-wheel WRX Rotors

Hawk HPS Street Pads
Installation @ our Shop
Total: $550
w/o Install: $440 ready to ship
HP+ Front Pads instead: add $55
SS Lines: add $120
ATE Super Blue Fluid: add $13
Drilled Rotors: Add $15

Race Rotor-Pad-Install Packages:Race Front WRX Rotors:

Hawk HPS Street Pads
Installation @ our Shop
Total: $410
w/o Install: $320 ready to ship
HP+ Pads instead: add $55
SS Lines: add $120
ATE Super Blue Fluid: add $13

Race 4-wheel WRX Rotors:

Hawk HPS Street Pads
Installation @ our Shop
Total: $640
w/o Install: $530 ready to ship
HP+ Front Pads instead: add $55
SS Lines: add $120
ATE Super Blue Fluid: add $13

STi Rotors
Street:
STi Stock Size Rotors Front $420/pair
STi Stock Size Rotors Rear $300/pair
STi Drilled: Add $20/set

Race:

STi Stock Size Rotors Front $499/pair
STi Stock Size Rotors Rear $320/pair

Other Brake Items:
Hawk Pads:
WRX/RS
Hawk HPS Front Pads (Subaru 4-piston): $75

Hawk HPS Front Pads RS/WRX (Pre 07/02): $81
Hawk HPS Rear Pads RS/WRX (Pre 07/02): $65

Hawk HPS Front Pads RS/WRX (Post 07/02): $75
Hawk HPS Rear Pads RS/WRX (Post 07/02): $70

Hawk HP+ Front Pads (Subaru 4-poston): $90
Hawk HP+ Front Pads RS/WRX (Pre 07/02): $135
STi
Hawk HPS Front Pads: $110
Hawk HPS Rear Pads: $70

Hawk HP+ Front Pads: $140
Hawk HP+ Rear Pads: $85

Goodridge SS Lines: $125
ATE Super Blue Race Fluid: $15
Ferrodo DS2500 STi Front Pads: $190

-mike
http://AZPInstalls.com
AIM/Yahoo: AZP Installs or Paisan12
paisan@azpinstalls.com
Phone: 917-596-3354

http://azpinstalls.com/racingbrake/pics/4pot1.jpg
http://azpinstalls.com/racingbrake/pics/4potkit1.jpg

As always AZP doesn't sell ANYTHING we don't run on our own cars both on-track and off, here are the prototypes being tested:

http://azpinstalls.com/installs/4-pot-10-04/images/P1050253.jpg
http://azpinstalls.com/installs/4-pot-10-04/images/P1050255.jpg
http://azpinstalls.com/installs/4-pot-10-04/images/P1050257.jpg
http://azpinstalls.com/installs/4-pot-10-04/images/P1050262.jpg

Do these come painted black? Do the calipers need rebuilds or dust seal replacements every so often? Are the Hawk HPS pads street pads and/or rotor friendly? Light/Heavy dust levels?

[i might seriously consider these when my tax return arrives...] :)

Only come in Red unfortunately.
These are not the seals like found in several other calipers, they are double-sealed and don't melt under heat of racing, therefore no rebuilds are needed unless there is a problem.
The HPS pads are great street pads: Low noise, Low Dust, Easy on Rotors, and great stopping power from cold.

Hope this helps. I wanted black also but since RB is a small company they had to go with red to attract both the Tunerz Crowd and for those of us into racing/performance the color isn't a big deal, the real draw of these units is their performance. :)

-mike

Very nice. Thanks for the info. :D

Yeah, i wanted black since i don't want any theives to be attracted to the nice expensive calipers i have on my car... But i suppose a little caliper paint could fix that. :)

[oh yeah, you suck since now these have officially been added to my list of things to buy...] :p

Yes but will legacy turbo wheels fit over them (you know 15 inchers)? Rally minded folks want to know! =)

www.safedrives.com

How big is the 'bigger rotor'?

something like 325 x 28 2-piecer is what I heard

Can you show some more detailed pics of the quick release pins and how they fasten on and come out... that is assuming these do offer quick release pad installation like the FHI 4 pots do.

How do the seals handle salt sand for those of use in the snow belt region of North America?

the pins are just the same as the subie 4 pot - cotter pins on the end
the seals are internal so the piston will be exposed when the pads are worn but the seal keeps the junk out of the piston bore - its similar to Alcon design and is pretty good because boots melt but unsealed pistons can get frozen

same retainer clips as well?

It's hard to tell from the pics, no shots on the back side of the caliper.

mike may have more pics - but I've changed pads in his car once already - its not the identical parts but they are just as easy to change pads.

Pull the cotter pins - tap the pad pins out and the pads are free to be changed. I did it in no time while watching the football game

something like 325 x 28 2-piecer is what I heard
325mm is a pretty big rotor (12.7"). I doubt that will fit under a stock wheel. The largest kit I've seen for stock wrx wheels is 310.

325mm is a pretty big rotor (12.7"). I doubt that will fit under a stock wheel. The largest kit I've seen for stock wrx wheels is 310.

The larger rotors will not fit under OEM wheels, you will need larger wheels to fit the larger rotors, however you will not need new calipers, just a set of rotors and brackets and you are good to go.

-mike

Can you show some more detailed pics of the quick release pins and how they fasten on and come out... that is assuming these do offer quick release pad installation like the FHI 4 pots do.

How do the seals handle salt sand for those of use in the snow belt region of North America?

So far no issues in our real world testing here in the NorthEast. :)

-mike

Yes but will legacy turbo wheels fit over them (you know 15 inchers)? Rally minded folks want to know! =)

www.safedrives.com

I doubt 15" wheels will fit under them as they are very close to not clearing the 16" OEM WRX wheels.

-mike

The quick releases are actually easier than the subaru 4-pots. Retaining clip is similar but not the same.

-mike

50% lighter than FHI 4 pot = heavier or lighter than Wilwood 4 pot?

50% lighter than FHI 4 pot = heavier or lighter than Wilwood 4 pot?

They come in at roughly 5.5lbs each not sure if that's more or less than the willwoods, however we don't consider the willwoods a viable alternative since they don't have the double-boot and need rebuilding every 6-months in winter climates, and don't take standard pads, good luck finding pads in a pinch at Pepboys on the wilwoods after you toast your pads at the track on sunday afternoon in the middle of the mountains of western NY.

-mike

yall also plan on making some 2pot rears? and offering them in gold :)

yall also plan on making some 2pot rears? and offering them in gold :)

No plans for Gold as of now, if anything Black. As for rears... The rear does so little braking, compared to the fronts, there may or may not be plans for 2-pot rears. From racing experience the rears are meaningless with outstanding fronts, currently our Impreza will do endos with the RB fronts and OEM Drum rears.

-mike

Can we assume these are properly balanced with the stock brake system, i.e. doesn't destroy the brake bias, and perhaps, actually improves on it?

These work with the 05 Legacy GT?

- Jon

They wouldn't work as is - the legacy rotor is half inch bigger and I'm unsure of the offset, thickness and if the locating points on the knuckle are the same

It may be that a 1/4" spacer does the trick.

They come in at roughly 5.5lbs each

5.5lb is with the bracket & pads?
If not, what's the total weight?

No plans for Gold as of now, if anything Black. As for rears... The rear does so little braking, compared to the fronts, there may or may not be plans for 2-pot rears. From racing experience the rears are meaningless with outstanding fronts, currently our Impreza will do endos with the RB fronts and OEM Drum rears.

-mike
I prefer to increase rear braking some... seems to help brake straighter & more controlled as well as reduce some nose dive and the brakes have more affect in mid corner for rotation. Thus I run a pad with more bite in the rear than the front (just a little) shifts some of the braking back, makes the ABS hold out longer before kicking in and really stops well.

I'd like to see these in black with a 2 pot rear option. Hopefully it won't be too much work to get these in black. Perhaps a GB could get the supplier to make them in black?

My plan is to get the Racing Brake 4 piston calipers with pads, keep my current front rotors, and then upgrade the rear rotors with the H6 modification and keep the stock rear calipers. Should be a nice upgrade for the front and rear for just around $1000. :)

pads - bracket - caliper together is 7 lbs according to my super accurate bathroom scale - (plus/minus a ton)

Still wondering about the brake balance. Are these properly brake biased a la StopTech? Or do they maintain the same brake bias as with a subaru 4pot 2 pot setup?

BTW, its great having another alternative 4-pot out there to fit under the stock WRX wheels. Esp. since they work with the stock rotor. Good job guys! Let's see if they hold up!

Still wondering about the brake balance. Are these properly brake biased a la StopTech? Or do they maintain the same brake bias as with a subaru 4pot 2 pot setup?

BTW, its great having another alternative 4-pot out there to fit under the stock WRX wheels. Esp. since they work with the stock rotor. Good job guys! Let's see if they hold up!

That couldn't be answered that easily.

Brake bias for the vehicle is set according to OEM pads, tires, suspension and weight distribution. Also, the vehicle bias may be set somewhat to the front as that is 'safer' for the average driver. (Rear brakes locking in a turn will surely spin the car?)

However as compared to the FH1 4 pot front (on 294 rotor) the pistons are a bit smaller so that would shift bias rearward slightly assuming all else equal.

I'd expect that this caliper with the H6 rear upgrade would provide a very nice brake setup in terms of balance, heat capacity, cost and maintenance (pad choices)

Cool, thanks. Just wondering if its something the engineers took into consideration when they put together this caliper. There are more than enough hacks out there with a CNC machine who think this sort of thing is easy to to do and then think a few months of testing are all it takes to make an effective and safe component. Brakes are one thing we don't want to take risks with.

It would good to know for sure that these do improve the overall braking balance. Can you get any hard numbers on piston area? A more even distribution of clamping forces is a good thing, but what is the effect on net clamping force?


And I agree, a GB on black calipers would get more people in the game for sure.

I'd be down for a GB in black if it ever happens. :)

I measured the pistons - 38 mm which is about 3 mm less than the FH1

But the FH1's haven't given me even pad/rotor wear - the rotor definitely got tapered and worn more on one side. Anyone else notice this??
(we generally run HP+ on the race car)

Two questions, first one is what pads do these use exactly? These calipers will work with the same pads from the 4 pot subaru calipers? But cant use the same pins and clips? Question two is, will the upgrade chew threw stock rotors? Are stock rotors realy viable to use with this setup. Or am I defenitly going to need to go to sloted some day? Im primaraly a daily driver, and i could not stand sloted rotors on my last car. But was forced to go with sloted because i would over heat and warp rotors left and right. With no track useage. So its realy a question of how good of a quality are the OE Rotors.

Thanks :)
BTW they look great!

Will they fit aftermarket 16's such as the ssr's?

I think that they look and sound great, especially the ability to use oem rims, since that's what I use for winter. I think that the calipers should come with a free stencil set, so people can pant the calipers a different color and keep the name.

Two questions, first one is what pads do these use exactly? These calipers will work with the same pads from the 4 pot subaru calipers? But cant use the same pins and clips? Question two is, will the upgrade chew threw stock rotors? Are stock rotors realy viable to use with this setup. Or am I defenitly going to need to go to sloted some day? Im primaraly a daily driver, and i could not stand sloted rotors on my last car. But was forced to go with sloted because i would over heat and warp rotors left and right. With no track useage. So its realy a question of how good of a quality are the OE Rotors.

Thanks :)
BTW they look great!

Its the same pad as the subie 4 pot - They come w/ the pins and clips - The caliper bodies are prolly not the same width so they wouldn't be the right length

The pads used will determine whether or not your rotors get chewed - unless you use a pos rotor.

And as everyone is starting to learn - me too - usually (not always) the rotors just have uneven deposits from the pad. Stoplight to stoplight racing can do that - holding a hot pad against the rotor while not rolling

bingo^^
I have a pair of RB slotted street rotors, and for the longest time I thought I warped them only after a month of use. Well, after a couple of months of lots of vibrations, and reading the Stoptech page about the brake pad deposits, I took action. I used Garnett paper and sanded down the rotor/brake pad deposit, and the once "warped" rotors are now gravy.

Yea, i know you actualy dont warp rotors, its almost imposible to physicly untrue them. Its the depostists that cause cementosis or somthing like that. Friction material embeded i the metal.

I know the pins come with the calipers, but what if they needed to be replaced. Subaru sells replacement clips, pins, and ratle gaurds. What about for these RB Calipers, can you source that stuff. I dont want to by somthing and not be able to find parts for it.

Thanks!

Two questions, first one is what pads do these use exactly? These calipers will work with the same pads from the 4 pot subaru calipers? But cant use the same pins and clips? Question two is, will the upgrade chew threw stock rotors? Are stock rotors realy viable to use with this setup. Or am I defenitly going to need to go to sloted some day? Im primaraly a daily driver, and i could not stand sloted rotors on my last car. But was forced to go with sloted because i would over heat and warp rotors left and right. With no track useage. So its realy a question of how good of a quality are the OE Rotors.

Thanks :)
BTW they look great!

Your rotors will only get chewed up if you us agressive pads such as Hawk HP+ or Blue. If you stick with HPS pads or similar you won't chew up your rotors. As for the pins and clips they are not the same as the OEM ones.

-mike

Yea, i know you actualy dont warp rotors, its almost imposible to physicly untrue them. Its the depostists that cause cementosis or somthing like that. Friction material embeded i the metal.

I know the pins come with the calipers, but what if they needed to be replaced. Subaru sells replacement clips, pins, and ratle gaurds. What about for these RB Calipers, can you source that stuff. I dont want to by somthing and not be able to find parts for it.

Thanks!

I am not sure if the pins and clips are the same as other calipers, however in the unlikelyhood that they were to break and RB wasn't around, then obtaining pins wouldn't be terribly hard for a machine shop to replicate. I haven't brokent them even in race conditions yet.

-mike

Just wanted to let everyone know we have these in stock and ready to ship. After our first lot of these is done, the price will be going up due to increased aluminum costs etc. So snatch em up while you can get em. If anyone want to see or test them you are more than welcome to stop by our shop and give our car a try. It will also be at the NASA-MidAtlantic HPDE event at VIR at the end of Feb if anyone wants to check em out there.

-mike

How much longer before the prices go up? I need to wait for my tax return first... Should be in 3 weeks or so, depending on how fast it gets processed... :D

we should still have em in stock in 3 weeks. There are 20 sets in this first allocation, so based on that I'd say 3 weeks should be ok.

-mike

Online ordering is now available!

Online 4-Pot Caliper Ordering and Information! (http://azpinstalls.com/racingbrake/4pot/)

-mike

Added the rear HPS pads on the ordering page.

-mike
http://AZPInstalls.com
AIM: AZP Installs

You may see other vendors selling the RacingBrake 4-pot calipers, but remember, we are the ONLY vendor out there who's been to the track 10+ times with this setup to test for YOU the customer, we know the RacingBrake products in and out and are constantly, even as we speak, out there running these setups on our own cars.

-mike
http://AZPInstalls.com
"Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!"

AZP Installs - I am looking to upgrade the braking on my 02 wrx, and wanted to pick up the
-Street 4-wheel WRX rotors (slotted)

-Hawk HPS Street Pads

-No installation (I'll DIY)

-Stainless Steel lines

-ATE Super Blue Fluid

My only issue though is that I want to perform the H6 upgrade done on the back end of my car also, so I wanted to know if it would be possible to switch out the rear rotors in your package and replace them with the 290X10 rotors that the H6 upgrade requires.

Please PM me witha shipped price for it all to an address in Ontario Canada....

^^^^^^

Yes, what he said. If Racing Brake makes a slotted H6 type rear rotor then I wiil probably go with one of your packages too ;)

Clavo.

I will check into when the H6 rear rotors will be available.

-mike

Hello,

I have the FHI 4 pot front on 294 rotor. Can i replace my FH1 4pot front setup with the RB calibers and use the FHI 294 rotors and 4 pot pads?
If yes, please make me an offer (PM) for the calibers incl shipping to 1230 Vienna Austria.

Thanks,
Daniel

The stock size of the WRX rotor is 294mm so there is no issue using the RB calipers on that rotor.

I don't think a "H6" upgrade in is the future but there is a 2 pot rear caliper that will accept a vented rotor in development.

Can we assume these are properly balanced with the stock brake system, i.e. doesn't destroy the brake bias, and perhaps, actually improves on it?

They have 38 mm pistons - a bit smaller than the JDM 4 pots (41.? i think)

This would move bias rearward a bit - likely desirable for any car w/ upgraded suspension

need brakes ASAP...

Street Front WRX Rotors
Hawk HPS Street Pads


got speed bleeders?
perhaps one Stop-Tech SS front brake line... (dont ask..long story)

You got PM. :D

What is the largest rotor I could fit with these calipers on my 00 GC Impreza?

Presently, the 294mm WRX rotor.

Will I need to purchase the wrx caliper brackets for proper fitment with the wrx rotors? Thanks for the quick reply.

The stock size of the WRX rotor is 294mm so there is no issue using the RB calipers on that rotor.

I don't think a "H6" upgrade in is the future but there is a 2 pot rear caliper that will accept a vented rotor in development.

Farabomb - Are you implying a 2 pot rear caliper is under development from RacingBrake, or are you referring to some other manufacturer ?

I would certainly be interested in a rear 2 pot upgrade to match the RB fronts. Someone mentioned earlier that it doesn't make much difference, but if that's the case, why would Subaru ever have bothered producing their own rear kit for some of their higher spec models ? Seems like a lot of effort to go to just to keep the marketing boys happy.

Will I need to purchase the wrx caliper brackets for proper fitment with the wrx rotors? Thanks for the quick reply.

The brakets that come with these calipers fit the WRX rotors.

-mike

Farabomb - Are you implying a 2 pot rear caliper is under development from RacingBrake, or are you referring to some other manufacturer ?

I would certainly be interested in a rear 2 pot upgrade to match the RB fronts. Someone mentioned earlier that it doesn't make much difference, but if that's the case, why would Subaru ever have bothered producing their own rear kit for some of their higher spec models ? Seems like a lot of effort to go to just to keep the marketing boys happy.

They are under development by RB to match the fronts. My personal feeling is that the rears don't do nearly as much braking but folks like to have em matching, so we'll give the customers what they want.

-mike

Is black in the works? Normally I wouldnt care but I have Sedona Red 00 RS.

Is black in the works? Normally I wouldnt care but I have Sedona Red 00 RS.

Possibly but not in the forseeable future.

-mike

I have a '97 Legacy GT, with the stock 16" alloy wheels. Will these brakes fit under my stock wheels?

AZP-

I've got a Brighton. Shoot me an email with what I'd need, and prices to upgrade.

I have a '97 Legacy GT, with the stock 16" alloy wheels. Will these brakes fit under my stock wheels?

If I had to hazzard a guess, I'd say "Yes" have we tested them on '97 GT rims, no we haven't tested em on them. I believe they are 16x6.5 same size as the OEM WRX rims in which case they would fit. I don't know anyone with the 97 legacy GT rims, or I'd offer to test fit em for you.

-mike

AZP-

I've got a Brighton. Shoot me an email with what I'd need, and prices to upgrade.

E-mailed yah!

-mike

Shoul'd I go with these brakes or the Legacy GT brakes for my 2005 RS? If I went with the RB's, what should I do for the rear brakes?

Shoul'd I go with these brakes or the Legacy GT brakes for my 2005 RS? If I went with the RB's, what should I do for the rear brakes?

I run these fronts with my drum brakes on my '96 L racecar. Since the rears do a very small amount of braking, I would upgrade the fronts to these and then put a set of HPS pads on the rear.

-mike