Whilst browsing the current issue of SCC. I learned something very interesting. Not only does Falken now make an Azenis in a 235/40/15 size. But it is also an R-compound. Man, I wish I could get some of those.

Oh, and it also taught me that both the 05 STi and 05 MR come with R-compound tires as well.

Seriously though, I'm really concerned that a mag I cherish so much could blatanly post such crap. What's up with that?

They seem to have been dropping in quality as of late.

That's why I dropped my subscription to them this past year. They used to be one of the better mags out there, but not anymore.

That's why I dropped my subscription to them this past year. They used to be one of the better mags out there, but not anymore.
same here. once that new editor came over, they started going downhill, slowly but surely. a pity since, after all, they published the bitchin' saab camero :D

I remember seeing that in there.

Have their renewal cries in the mail... not renewing due to quality.

GRM is the real deal.

zzyzx(totally ot question), where did you get your name?

zzyzx(totally ot question), where did you get your name?

From here. (http://wordways.com/zzyzx.htm)

Maximum ownage:

http://www.imprezawrxsti.com/postnuke/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=19070&highlight=rattle

They seem to have been dropping in quality as of late.
Yeah, its getting pretty bad. I think this newest issue is probably the worst I've ever seen. I'm truly dissapointed. And yes, GRM is required reading for any car nut.

From here. (http://wordways.com/zzyzx.htm)

Recreational Linguistics. "hey what did you call me?" :lol:

geez, i'm glad i'm not the only one thinking along these lines too! they seem to have done everything and now are getting into more gimicky things becoming more advert heavy and trendy?

How could anyone cherish SCC. It's crap and has always been crap!

How could anyone cherish SCC. It's crap and has always been crap!
I've been reading it since 97. I'd say it's probably the best rag dedicated to mostly import performance. Would you rather "read" super street?

How could anyone cherish SCC. It's crap and has always been crap!
for a while there, the engineers ruled the roost and it actually had some interesting content. not like Racecar Engineering or anything, but much easier to understand for those of us who aren't engineers.

as for GRM, its better, and they do have the occasional really interesting article (ok, tire tests), but most of it is uninteresting. i have no desire to read parts lists. my focus has grown exceedingly narrow over the last few years. no magazine helped set my car up for GS. no mag helps set my car up for rally-x. no mag will help set up my ride this season. reading a mag is no substitute for your own (or your direct competitor's) testing and tuning. the most useful info for setting my car up for GS came from other who had done it at a national level. the rest came from trial and error.

The thread from the other board really lambasted SCC. :lol:

que grm?

GRM = Grassroots Motorsports. Excellent mag.

que grm?

Grass Roots Motorsports, maybe... probably... :confused:

How could anyone cherish SCC. It's crap and has always been crap!

Yup. They are, and have been, 'The rice of the month club' for those who don't know better.

GRM - Grassroots Motorsports
http://www.grassrootsmotorsports.com/

there needs to be a magazine like Racecar Engineering..but for sport compacts...and lots of vehicle and aftermarket parts testing w/ data and graphs and analysis

I dropped SCC after 2002. Picked up GRM and am quite pleased. I also subscribed to RallyXS in '03 was nice, but not as useful as GRM.

SCC blows... obviously they took rattle cans to a freakin' STi!

As noted SCC does blow. and I write for GRM so I am bias :-)

there needs to be a magazine like Racecar Engineering..but for sport compacts...and lots of vehicle and aftermarket parts testing w/ data and graphs and analysis

I agree. What a great rag.

there needs to be a magazine like Racecar Engineering..but for sport compacts...and lots of vehicle and aftermarket parts testing w/ data and graphs and analysis
that would be sweet :D

Scott Oldham, the editor of SCC that's aimed the magazine right at the gutter, has been taken on as the Senior Editor of Inside Line at Edmunds.

Does anyone know if he's still working for SCC or if this is just a part-time thing?

Had an SCC subscription in 2003. Only. GRM and Modified get my money.

Scott Oldham, the editor of SCC that's aimed the magazine right at the gutter
Understatement of the century. I didn't mind his contribution to the magazine beforehand. ANd actually thought he was entertaining to read. But this position has given him some odd ego boost, and at the same time has all but ruined a very informative and fun to read magazine.

I'm hearing more rumors that the March issue of SCC is Oldham's last. It might get better, it might get worse.

I'm hearing more rumors that the March issue of SCC is Oldham's last. It might get better, it might get worse.
I f'n hope so.

I still like Sport compact ALOT more than BS import tuner or stupid street.

Picked up my first issus of Modified and MPH(kinda weak) have yet to read the Modified one yet.

Oldham's column in the latest says "goodby". Maybe there's hope...

GRM = real cars and real racers.....

GRM is a great magazine.

SCC was good in about 98 up untill about 03 in my opinion. just before they built the RS-T and around that time was the best time for the mag.

some things have gotten really good. like their rally coverage. some have gotten really weak.

i no longer buy it, just read the couple columns i like at B+N on my break from work.

as i said in another thread the GN+Open class rally car comparison was a good article.

I also let my SCC subscription lapse last month (subscriber since '97). I kept getting notices, but the quality of the mag has seriously gone downhill in the last year or two. I always enjoyed their fairly informative articles on project cars and whatnot, but that all seems to have disappeared. I think I'll check it out again if Oldham leaves. What's wierd is that I enjoyed his writing when he was *just* writing for them. As soon as he took over as editor...well, you guys seem to know the rest.

I don't bother reading any other import mags. They all seem way too focused on the "ricer" scene. Oh well.

-Brian

Well the new mag should be out soon. Hopefully Oldham's "mark" won't last long.

Got my copy in the mail yesterday. Jacquot's listed as "editor." Probably temporary though. The last two issues IMO were pretty damn good- the comparison between Group N and Open WRXs for one, the writeup on the JGTC 350Z this month, plus Dave Coleman's always worth reading. It's far from perfect, but as has been said a couple times already in this thread- what's being written better in this country, besides GRM? (And hell, they're not perfect either- they're "project WRX" full of SPT garbage is the one the Reno region SCCA ejected after "winning" it because of highest Subaru owner participation, thanks to SECCS, and then SOA told us we had to carry a $5mil insurance policy in order to have the car, and we couldn't use it in competition. We could have bought a used one for what it would have ended up costing us to have an exposition vehicle for Subaru. But I digress... :p)

Anyways, there's hope for SCC yet. It hasn't been lost to the Dark Side completely.

(And hell, they're not perfect either- they're "project WRX" full of SPT garbage is the one the Reno region SCCA ejected after "winning" it because of highest Subaru owner participation, thanks to SECCS, and then SOA told us we had to carry a $5mil insurance policy in order to have the car, and we couldn't use it in competition. We could have bought a used one for what it would have ended up costing us to have an exposition vehicle for Subaru. But I digress... :p)

I've read this a couple of times but still don't understand what you are saying. I haven't seen this story before, so I'm interested.

I'll try to explain. A few months ago, GRM wrote about their "project WRX." Basically, they got a WRX from SOA and they're throwing in all the SPT parts for their so-called project car. This car was initially offered to Reno region SCCA, because we won a contest SOA put on last year. It had to do with hieghest growth in Solo 2 participation by subaru owners or something like that. Anyway, we won it, and our "prize" was the use of a brand new WRX for a year. The catch was, SOA wanted us to buy a huge liability policy on the car, and we weren't going to be allowed to autocross it. :huh: We told SOA they could keep it, and apparently someone at GRM got them to give them the car. Basically they wanted us to spend thousands of dollars to help Subaru promote the WRX at SCCA events in the region.

They seem to have been dropping in quality as of late.

Agreed...Subscribtion ran out...don't think I am going to renew

Bill

I don't agree that GRM is an acceptable substitute for SCC. They might have occasional overlapping content (WRX here, WRX there, etc) but thier overall focus is a completely different audience. In the 90's, i subscribed to Turbo magazine, but found that there was way to much concentrated honda content after that point so it was replaced with a subscription to SCC. Of that particular niche of auto magazines, it still seems to be the "least bad" :lol: of them all.

Oh come on. The boys across the pond have it right.

Max Power 4 evah.

Oh come on. The boys across the pond have it right.

Max Power 4 evah.

Well, there is the gratuitous titty shots!

:lol:

Don't forget all the ICE articles...

Oh come on. The boys across the pond have it right.

Max Power 4 evah.
Damn, I hate those. Their all huge and crap, and make my magazine stacks uneven.