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Let say if we remap our computer.....we will lose our warrenty. but what if I buy another wrx computer and remap that one and plug it in? and when ever there is a problem, I put the stock computer back on.......do i still get my warrenty?
and are there any different by getting a sport computer other then remapping the stock one?
cata
There are ways of remapping the ECu where there is a stock map that is undetectable by the dealership.
feiron 01-23-2005, 03:26 PM or get a piggyback... like utec.. which you can take off and leave no mark at all anytime you want
ScoobyNubieToo! 01-23-2005, 06:27 PM Let say if we remap our computer.....we will lose our warrenty. but what if I buy another wrx computer and remap that one and plug it in? and when ever there is a problem, I put the stock computer back on.......do i still get my warrenty?
and are there any different by getting a sport computer other then remapping the stock one?
cata
Cobb AccessPort FAQ:
Q. Can a dealer detect that I have an AccessPORT (AccessECU reflash)?
A. With the tools currently available at Subaru dealerships, it is not possible for them to detect that the ECU has been modified. We own the same service tools used by all Subaru dealerships and have verified that their function is unaltered by the AccessECU. Therefore, your vehicle can be serviced by the dealership in the same way as a stock vehicle.
But I'm not so sure they can't detect it because when I took my car into SOA for service, I reflashed before taking it in and they asked me what I was using to create all they "overboosting" they noticed when they checked my ECU log.
but is my idea workable? I know it'll cost more...........but. :D
and would it be easier then putting on a piggy back?
i've been thinking about getting cobb or utec b4..........can i get it locally?
and what needs to be install for utec? at least you have to open your ecu and link another chip on right?
so i think i get a little mixed up with utec and accessport
SO utec is by Turbo XS (piggy back)
accessport is by Cobb..........but how does it install?
turbo XS are direct hook on to stock ecu without cutting anything(quote from the website) :D so does it mean if i want to take it of i can just unplug it and hook everything back to my stock ecu?
ScoobyNubieToo! 01-23-2005, 09:42 PM Learn all about Cobb AccessPort here:http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/accessport-faq.html
Here's a nice thread regarding AP and Utec:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7135068
many people who reflash (like our mail order customers) use two ecus, not because they are trying to avoid dealers (which would be fraud), but to not have downtime while sending in their ecu
that being said, dealers cannot normally detect a reflash unless you have an 05 with the ecu code checksum (legacy gt, etc). That only started in 05 and for not all cars and is not normally detectable. If someone wanted to try really hard, using "extra" tools, they are detectable. Sorry to say, just because that is what Cobb's site says, for a car with CVN, SVN etc their reflash IS detectable unless it doesn't do anything. But none of that is normally checked anyways, and this only applies to 05 cars.
Dont lie to your dealer it will only cause problems for other people ! But like I said, lots of people send in ECUs so they have no downtime.
P.S. if you use a Cobb AP and you 'reflash back to stock', it actually doesn't put your old ecu code back in, it puts in a standard cobb map of a standard ecu that is pre-programmed, so it is not actually what you car was beore. trust me on that.
thanks for your inputs....
So as what Patr said.....would UTEC be a better choice?
NO NO NO !!
Its a totally different product. The tuned reflash is a sophisticated map that uses the high end stock ECU in your car. THe UTEC is a piggy back system that is only active part of the time (the stock ECU running the other part of the time).
For a end user, unless they were able to tune themselves, knew what they were buying, and wanted a budget soloution (the UTEC is basically the budget soloution for home tuning), they should probably get a reflash. I am going to get flamed for this, but whatever. If you dont know what CL/OL swithover is, and you dont understand what will cause it to happen and when, dont get a UTEC unless you are also getting it tuned. That being said, guys who want PnP for an STi who somehow dont want a reflash have this as an option, and with tuning it can be somewhat smoothed out. The cool plug and play (no splicing) USDM STi projects use a reflash AND :huh: UTEC for the race fuel part.
if you just want a power increase, a tuned reflash is a better bet. If you want full tuneability on your own (but you should ask yourself if you can really extract more than your tuner can) you have other options, most reflashes can include user tuning if you car is on the supported list. If you want wire in you have options. If you want pnp you have options. If you want pnp and user tuneability with OL/CL swithcing piggyback, then you can go with a UTEC, but for your money spent I can guarantee you that you can have equivalent options
It depends on the application !
The SVN/CVN only applies to 05 and up, and only some models, by the way. Street cars best benefit for the $$ is a tuned reflash, period. I will stand by that.
oh..no no no...I am not saying that one item is better than another. I am just saying that which could be a better choice for me. It is nothing about what you've said because I am still in the search of what I could do for my car. up till now I just somehow thinks utec could be a better choice for me cos i was thinking keeping one true stock ecu and then have another tuned one.....If i get utec then my ecu can always be stock..........Thats what I really meant
So People....DON'T FLAME PATR Because of anything he said.....he's just try to help me out. ;)
but still thanks....I guess we could go a lot longer in this topic......so I guess I will just PM you if i have more questions to ask ;) hope this thread didn't border you
Cata
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