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View Full Version : GC Cages From Safety Devices UK. The Ultimate Handling Upgrade.
Safe Drives 02-02-2005, 07:02 PM Safe Drives, LLC has recently become one of three international stockists (UK talk for distributor) for Safety Devices UK. Safety Devices is world renowned for creating the highest quality safety products found anywhere while specializing in certified roll cage kits.
Roll cage pictures are found by clicking here. (http://safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SD1&cat=72)
Safe Drives, LLC has just posted some fantastic images of the Safety Devices roll cage kits for the GC Impreza, 93-2001 at our website (http://www.safedrives.com/). These images show the bolt in kit as well as the weld in kit for two or four door models. These are FIA / MSA (UK) certified kits but are just as valid for the street car driver seeking the ultimate in safety and chassis rigidity.
The Safety Devices bolt in cage kits come with a high shine black paint finish that is second to none. All hardware needed for the installation is supplied.
These kits are for the GC Impreza two door, four door and wagon.
The kits are available many different ways with many options.
Available as just a bolt-in rear only cage, or roll bar, prices start at just $599 shipped to anywhere in North America.
A specific rear cage for Track Days is demountable and flat packable and does not require any holes to be drilled in vehicle and picks up on existing bolts and mountings. At $1089 shipped it is not exactly cheap but neither is the product.
Below is a complete list of the available bolt in roll cage products and a current price list. Please use http://www.xe.com/ucc/ (http://www.xe.com/ucc/) for currency conversions and realize that these prices do not include shipping.
Please call 877-739-1713 for ordering however questions will be answered here for all to see and understand.
Best regards, Charles.
Edit to add photos:
Note that the Red bits are the weld in foot plates that you then bolt the cage too. Nice.
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/safetydevices/subaru2drbolt/Q83S006_sm.jpg
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/safetydevices/subaru2drbolt/Q83S005_sm.jpg http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/safetydevices/subaru2drbolt/Q83S007_sm.jpg
Weld in:
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/safetydevices/subaru2drweld/Q87D-2_sm.jpg
AZP Installs 02-03-2005, 06:01 AM What is the tubing type, diameter, and wall thickness on these cages? Any available for the 1st Gen Legacy?
The Biggest problem with FIA cages that I've found is the wall thinkness is too thin to meet SCCA, Rally America, and NASA rules.
Also are these made for RHD or LHD? Usually they make them specifically for more protection for the driver v. passenger.
-mike
Safe Drives 02-03-2005, 01:44 PM Hi Mike,
Thanks for the good questions.
What is the tubing type, diameter, and wall thickness on these cages? Any available for the 1st Gen Legacy?
Tubing diameter is irrelavent for a FIA certified cage.To get the certification the cage must go through testing which is done by an independant party. But, most of the Subaru cages are made from 45mm X 2.5mm cold drawn steel however tubing diameter will vary some in certain areas of the cage.
Yes they have a sweet kit for the first gen legacy! Group N spec.
The Biggest problem with FIA cages that I've found is the wall thinkness is too thin to meet SCCA, Rally America, and NASA rules.
Yes the SCCA has there own cage requirements however they have in the past, and surely would again if requested issue a log book for a properly documented FIA certified weld in cage. As long as it is properly welded together you really won't find a stronger cage design nor one that has a certification / testing done to it.
The old SCCA rally, now Rally America rulebook states that FIA weld in cages are recommended. This issue was cleared up on SpecialStage.com by the technical director for RA.
NASA and CARS rally rulebook are pretty much pulled strait from the FIA rulesbook and allow ANY FIA cage including bolt ins as long as they are certificated and have the plaque.
Also are these made for RHD or LHD? Usually they make them specifically for more protection for the driver v. passenger.
-mike
99% of the cage kits that we offer are two place cages and of those none are RHD or LHD specific. :)
Charles
AZP Installs 02-03-2005, 02:05 PM Thanks for clearing that up, unfortunately, SCCA and NASA *Road Racing* requirements don't accept FIA certified cages at face value.
I'll see if that 45mm and 2.5mm would work for me. Pricing on a certified cage for a 1st gen legacy? Thanks for answering all these questions, hopefully this helps not just me but other road racers out there looking to get cages as there are none that are available currently for GC and non-wrx subies out there.
Also are there any FIA cetified ones that are bolt-in?
-mike
AZP Installs 02-03-2005, 02:11 PM ok just ran the 45mm and 2.5mm through the NASA regs, so far so good for cars up to 3000lbs.
Is CDS the same as DOM? Are the tubes seamless? I think that's the other requirement.
-mike
Safe Drives 02-03-2005, 07:53 PM ok just ran the 45mm and 2.5mm through the NASA regs, so far so good for cars up to 3000lbs.
Is CDS the same as DOM? Are the tubes seamless? I think that's the other requirement.
-mike
Cold Drawn Steel is a seamless tube that is equivalent to Drawn Over Mandrel steel. The Cage kits all ship with statements of what type of steel was used in the kit and for the properties of the steel used. The cages also ship with the FIA paperwork and plaque.
On a related note the kits can be made from 3mm wall thickness as well which gets you to 0.118+inch which any SCCA tech inspector would probably call a wash. This also is what the NHRA spec is for the main hoop. As far as SSCA though I think they still have a problem with different dimensions of tube being used in different areas of the cage. They want it all the same size IIRC.
Legacy cage price is quite reasonable as long as the exchange rate stays cool and the shipping companies are willing to work with me. Currently the CDS legacy cage is listed at $979 for plain end and $1209 for the profiled end kits. These prices include shipping as long as I can work out my current shipping dilemma.
Anyone have a nice inside track on cheap air international shipping? :huh:
mykrrrr 02-04-2005, 05:40 PM Could you please PM me pricing for a Grp. N legal weld in cage???
thx.
-mykr.
Safe Drives 02-05-2005, 12:13 AM Pm's replied to all and many thanks to all!
Zornorph 02-05-2005, 12:14 PM "Below is a complete list of the available bolt in roll cage products and a current price list. Please use http://www.xe.com/ucc/ for currency conversions and realize that these prices do not include shipping."
What am I doing wrong? I can't find any pictures , descriptions, or price listing for any of the flat ship/demountable track day bars you mentioned. Can you provide additional links?
Safe Drives 02-05-2005, 03:22 PM "Below is a complete list of the available bolt in roll cage products and a current price list. Please use http://www.xe.com/ucc/ for currency conversions and realize that these prices do not include shipping."
What am I doing wrong? I can't find any pictures , descriptions, or price listing for any of the flat ship/demountable track day bars you mentioned. Can you provide additional links?
You know what? When I created that post I was attempting to put in the excel spread sheet for ALL of the Safety Devices bolt in cages but in the end the formatting just got all messed up. I should have deleted that part of my post as well as the spread sheet stuff... Ooooops, sorry for the confusion.
I have posted a dedicated page to the track bar however and it includes pictures. This piece is nice my fellow Subie lovers. It looks like six bolts and the roll bar comes out. Check it out!
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/safetydevices/ImprezaTrDayRB/Q121d-2_med.jpg (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SDTrackbar&cat=72)
More information and photos of this great safety product can be found here. (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SDTrackbar&cat=72)
This part is available for all two door and four door GC Imprezas made from '93-2001.
No drilling is required for the installation of this roll bar. :cool:
Charles
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
We are, "Your auto safety store!"
Zornorph 02-05-2005, 09:55 PM Wow - that is nice. I hope to be tracking my car quite a bit this summer and fall and that would be a nice safety feature. Is there one available for the 2004?
Safe Drives 02-05-2005, 11:12 PM Wow - that is nice. I hope to be tracking my car quite a bit this summer and fall and that would be a nice safety feature. Is there one available for the 2004?
At this time it is only available for the older Impreza.
I am asking that they make one for the 2002+ Imprezas as well as a few other popular track day cars. No word on when they will be available but I will keep you all posted.
In the meantime there is an option for the 2002+ Impreza from Autopower but it is a bolt in unit. The Street-Sport model has the nice harness bar and is on sale for just $375. :)
-Charles
hondaslayer 02-06-2005, 09:01 PM Could you please PM me pricing for a Grp. N legal weld in cage???
thx.
-mykr.
What do you need a cage for?
Safe Drives 02-09-2005, 09:54 PM These are sweet parts. Bolt in the cage of your dreams.:)
I just want to give my thumbs up for the Safety Devices-cages. I have one in my AE86, and it did wonders for the handling. It`s only bolted in for the time being, but i will weld it this year for additional stiffness. Safety Devices is a well-known manufacturer here in Europe, and they are involved in most forms of motorsport, in many different levels. You can`t go wrong with their products :)
Safe Drives 02-17-2005, 09:03 PM Bump. :)
Safe Drives 02-22-2005, 03:10 PM Thanks everyone!
Safe Drives 02-23-2005, 07:25 PM If I can get an order for two or more of these kits then the price savings is over a hundred bucks.
SO, special deals on two or more! PM me!
Thorshamm 02-24-2005, 01:35 AM Do you have a bolt in cage with the unboltable rear bits (I need to keep the back seat funtionality when not at the track)?
Thanks
F
Safe Drives 02-24-2005, 01:59 PM Do you have a bolt in cage with the unboltable rear bits (I need to keep the back seat funtionality when not at the track)?
Thanks
F
Yes that kit is available. There are actually a few options on the bolt cages from Safety Devices. The options are with the rear portion of the cage and door bars.
All of the kits are at least bolt in which means they can be completely removed if one so wishes.
Now that track day rear cage requires no drilling and can be removed in a matter of minutes by removing just six bolts.
Charles
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com)
Portly 02-24-2005, 05:21 PM ...just as valid for the street car driver seeking the ultimate in safety and chassis rigidity.
Are you really marketing this as a street-safety item? It has always been my impression that cages in street cars was actually quite UNsafe, unless the driver wishes to drive around with a helmet on at all times. Reason being, cracking your skull against a piece of rigid steel tubing is a rather unhealthy thing. And I was also under the impression that typical tube padding was too "soft" for head impact protection.
Please clarify. :)
_Jeff
kunfuzion 02-24-2005, 06:33 PM I just want to give my thumbs up for the Safety Devices-cages. I have one in my AE86, and it did wonders for the handling. It`s only bolted in for the time being, but i will weld it this year for additional stiffness. Safety Devices is a well-known manufacturer here in Europe, and they are involved in most forms of motorsport, in many different levels. You can`t go wrong with their products :)
is your ae86 hatch or coupe. would you happen to have pics? thanks
jeff
Safe Drives 02-24-2005, 06:58 PM Are you really marketing this as a street-safety item? It has always been my impression that cages in street cars was actually quite UNsafe, unless the driver wishes to drive around with a helmet on at all times. Reason being, cracking your skull against a piece of rigid steel tubing is a rather unhealthy thing. And I was also under the impression that typical tube padding was too "soft" for head impact protection.
Please clarify. :)
_Jeff
Hi Jeff,
There are many debates as to cages and street cars and the safety of such a thing.
There was just a grand debate about this and roll cage padding. In the end we may never know since there has never been crash test data released of a caged car vs a non-caged car. Do a search and you'll come with gobs of peoples of opinions and some facts.
Certainly you are correct about typical tube padding being too "soft" for head impact protection. Safe Drives LLC has done extensive research into what was the best roll cage pad available and came up with BSCI's padding (http://www.safedrives.com/products.asp?cat=72) being the best.
In my opinion, being a safety guru, street cars and roll cages are safe as long as the cage is installed/fabricated properly, you use a proper 4+ point seatbelt, you install lots of the proper padding and all of the airbags are disabled.
I drive a caged '95 Impreza coupe all of the time. :)
To some, maybe a rear cage is all they want. To others a full race cage is what they want.
Safe Drives has the best selection of roll over protection the US! Why? because we are, "Your auto safety store!"
HTH
Charles
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com)
Safe Drives 02-28-2005, 07:13 PM Bump!
Safe Drives 03-02-2005, 05:51 PM Please drive safe!
Safe Drives 03-08-2005, 02:06 PM Nice roll bar!
Safe Drives 03-10-2005, 07:20 PM ttttt^^^^
kunfuzion 03-10-2005, 07:26 PM what is the cost for a cage for an 84-87 corolla hatch? thanks
Safe Drives 03-10-2005, 08:46 PM PM sent! Thanks!
Safe Drives 03-14-2005, 01:43 PM Monday!
Safe Drives 03-15-2005, 09:04 PM Bump for a nice piece of auto safety.
sunnynw 03-23-2005, 02:11 PM Tttt^^^^
Safe Drives 04-11-2005, 01:12 PM These kits are NICE!
outback2.5HO 04-18-2005, 02:13 PM Do you have a recommended installer for the weld-in cages in Oregon?
sunnynw 04-19-2005, 12:59 PM Do you have a recommended installer for the weld-in cages in Oregon?
Check out www.allwheelsdriven.net! Those guys are the best! ;)
Safe Drives 04-19-2005, 01:01 PM Check out www.allwheelsdriven.net! Those guys are the best! ;)
Agreed! Talk to Barret about your cage install. :)
4wdrift 05-17-2005, 10:14 AM YES!! Still love for the GC! :D
psyber_0ptix 05-17-2005, 06:12 PM no end on the promotion i take it?
it may be late summe rbefore i pick one up :p
Safe Drives 05-17-2005, 07:05 PM no end on the promotion i take it?
it may be late summe rbefore i pick one up :p
Looks good so far! :cool:
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