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Jon [in CT]
02-07-2005, 12:00 PM
This article is from today's NY Times at http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/07/automobiles/07CARS.html: AUTOS ON MONDAY/Design

If Subarus Grow Up to Be Pretty, Will They Still Be Attractive?

By PHIL PATTON

Published: February 7, 2005

WHEN a new car makes its public debut, the automaker listens anxiously for positive feedback. But at the Detroit auto show last month, Subaru was eager for comments of any kind about the design of the B9 Tribeca, the company's new seven-seat sport-utility vehicle.

Trainers hired to coach the hostesses who worked at Subaru's display made this clear, saying that "if anyone says anything about the styling, good or bad, that's a good thing."

Subaru has long been a wallflower at the prom of auto fashion. But styling is just about the only virtue for which Subarus have not been lauded. In surveys, consumers praise their durability and economy; enthusiast magazines applaud their ruggedness and sportiness.

The cars have not been ugly, just forgettable. The Tribeca, which goes on sale this summer, is Subaru's attempt to fix that.

As the company's first production model to carry its new, more expressive design theme, the Tribeca wears a face whose grille suggests a jet-engine intake flanked by wings, shapes intended to evoke the aviation origins of Subaru and its parent, Fuji Heavy Industries. The pronounced bulges around the Tribeca's wheel openings emphasize the presence of all-wheel drive, which has become the company's hallmark feature in the United States; a high beltline (the line under the side windows) also departs from the design of current Subarus.

The new design language was developed by Andreas Zapatinas, Subaru's head of advanced design, who was hired in 2002 to bring grace and uniformity to the model line as part of the company's effort to establish itself as a more upscale brand. His influence was embodied in two stunning, if not shocking, show cars: the B9SC roadster, unveiled at the 2003 Tokyo auto show, and the four-door B11S, which made its debut in Geneva the same year. A small city car also shown in Japan, the R1e, will make its debut in production form next month in Geneva.

The new look, Mr. Zapatinas said in an interview in Detroit, is intended to express the power of four-wheel drive and the qualities of precision engineering. The goal, he said, is to revise the image people have of Subaru.

"We have high quality and lots of attention to detail," Mr. Zapatinas said. "Before, maybe the exteriors did not say that.

"We have slowly managed to build a treasure here, to build a castle. It is time to consolidate and to give our family also a visual identity."

A playful and energetic man, Mr. Zapatinas slightly resembles the cartoonist R. Crumb. Engineering and design combine for Mr. Zapatinas in one of his favorite cars of all time, the Citroën DS, the pride of 1950's Gallic technology.

Mr. Zapatinas, born in Athens in 1957, studied at the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, Calif. He worked for Chris Bangle at Fiat, later following Mr. Bangle to BMW. His work on the Fiat Barchetta and Alfa Romeo 145 has been widely praised.

Subaru's design has often seemed an afterthought, a container in which technology is wrapped, secondary to engineering. Subaru executives have in the past referred to their designs simply as "packaging." The ungraceful placement of beltlines, the cartoonish swells of the fenders and the muttlike faces seem not only to express a lack of interest in the romance of styling, but to advertise an outright disdain for it.

There is another side to Subaru, though. A raging rally-car personality is embodied in its signature blue sports models, notably the Impreza WRX STi that draws at least as much attention from teenagers as a Corvette or a Porsche. A six-cylinder sports coupe, the SVX, was built in the 1990's, but the upscale model baffled traditional Subaru buyers as much as the partitioned windows of its Giorgetto Giugiaro design baffled turnpike toll-takers.

The Tribeca, which will be Subaru's most expensive model, has attracted a lot of attention in Japan, Mr. Zapatinas said. But the potential for confusion over the name seems great. Some prospective buyers may think that a Tribeca is a geometric figure with the same unusual shape as the grille. For others, the name may suggest a Subaru that can cope with rough roads - urban as well as rural - even if those buyers do not know that TriBeCa is a neighborhood in Manhattan, the triangle below Canal Street, where cobblestone streets are best traversed with a rugged vehicle.

Some Japanese companies have made an effort recently to make their designs more, well, Japanese. Toyota designers talk about increasing the "J-factor." Nissan has incorporated elements of Japanese tradition into its designs, while Mazda expresses its zoom-zoom message with a look of samurai armor.

Does Mr. Zapatinas want his cars to look more Japanese?

"That should come out, not in a presumptuous way, but as an expression of Japanese premium engineering," he said.

"We want to show the same attention to detail you see in the display of vegetables at the market in Japan and even in the way the clerk gives you change at the checkout."

For the most part, Subaru drivers seem never to have missed fancy styling in their cars. The company succeeded in establishing itself as the leader in all-wheel drive before most other makers caught on to the interest in this feature. It jacked up an all-wheel-drive station wagon and called the result "the world's first sport utility wagon," finding a large pool of customers who wanted all-weather capability without an S.U.V.'s boxy body.

For many Subaru buyers, homeliness is not only acceptable but serves as a visible token of their refusal to be seduced by the superficialities of styling.

"I can't imagine anyone who cares less about the aesthetics of his car than I do," said David Laskin, the owner of a 2001 Subaru Outback. Mr. Laskin, who lives in Seattle, is a writer specializing in weather. He has driven his Outback many miles promoting his book, "The Children's Blizzard," about a deadly snowstorm that struck the Great Plains in 1888.

"It's an L. L. Bean edition, although we didn't buy it for that," Mr. Laskin said. He compares it to an L. L. Bean boot, waterproof and warm, even if it is not as fashionable as a Florsheim or Bruno Magli loafer.

"It's like a fleece vest instead of a cashmere sweater," Mr. Laskin said. "Out here in Seattle there's a whole lot of the 'earth muffin' thing about Subarus."

This counterchic suggests a perverse pride in the homeliness of the vehicles. A Subaru's look may say as much about its driver as the rakish shape of a Porsche 911 does, but in a wholly different way. It fairly screams anti-consumption. "We are not the sort of people to be deluded by such things," the sheet metal seems to say.

With such customers, Mr. Zapatinas's design direction holds risks. The Tribeca shows a daring amount of grace. The taillights recall the lovely Alfas that Mr. Zapatinas worked on in the late 1990's. There is a hint of Porsche Cayenne in the face, and the shape of the grille is echoed in an interior more elegant and flowing than those of earlier Subarus.

Could a new generation of Subarus become, well, too pretty? "Only if it becomes too trendy, too fashionlike," he said, and he promises not to let that happen.

To judge from the reaction to the Tribeca, Subaru is safe from the dangers of prettiness for a while yet. "Too pretty? No way!" said Mr. Laskin, the Seattle Subaru owner. "It's just as chunky and drab and unassuming as always."Note that the print edition of this article carried pictures of:
Andreas Zapatinas
B9SC
B11S
R1e
WRX Sti
SVX
B9 Tribeca
The online version has only a picture of the B9 Tribeca:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/02/07/automobiles/07auto184.jpg

Dale_K
02-07-2005, 01:38 PM
Earth muffin?

buddhas-gtb
02-07-2005, 02:59 PM
The mere fact that the Tribeca gets this kind interest from the NY Times is a very good thing for Subaru. It brings up the "Quirky Cool" quotient a bit.

Achilles38WRX
02-07-2005, 03:04 PM
nice article.

Eyeflyistheeye
02-07-2005, 09:38 PM
Don't feel left out... here's Andy Shoe in all his glory :lol:

http://www.cardesignnews.com/news/whoswhere/images/zapatinas1.jpg

Jon [in CT]
02-07-2005, 09:56 PM
A playful and energetic man, Mr. Zapatinas slightly resembles the cartoonist R. Crumb.Props to the person who can provide a picture of R. Crumb for comparison. :)

(I used to read his comics, but never knew what he looked like.)

gurpman
02-07-2005, 11:25 PM
"The ungraceful placement of beltlines, the cartoonish swells of the fenders and the muttlike faces seem not only to express a lack of interest in the romance of styling, but to advertise an outright disdain for it."

What a line! ROFL

Eby
02-08-2005, 12:51 AM
']Props to the person who can provide a picture of R. Crumb for comparison. :)

(I used to read his comics, but never knew what he looked like.)

http://www.editrixabby.com/assets/images/AbbywCelebs/R.Crumb.jpg

That's him. Weird hobbies I guess.

Len
02-08-2005, 01:03 AM
Very nice article.

Hopefully the new design will really come alive on smaller vehicles. I like what Zap did with Alfa, and I believe he can do it again.

Integra96
02-08-2005, 01:16 AM
Worked for Chris Bangle, eh? It's all starting to make sense now. :(

Shavenyak
02-08-2005, 01:30 AM
Worked for Chris Bangle, eh? It's all starting to make sense now. :(

That's exactally what I was thinking. Bangle is singlehandedly destroying BMW's classic lines and style. Great motors, yes, but style is all but out the window. When they update the 3 series next year, BMW will be written off in my book.

--Roman

Snow Drift
02-08-2005, 02:20 AM
nice article. but umm, the Tribeca (and yes i knew it was in manhattan, im from NY), is the ugliest car that has ever graced a subaru 6 star badge. The WRX, Legacy, and Forester are beautiful in comparison.

Beaverboy
02-08-2005, 10:31 AM
Wow.. I just had this dream where an article was written about Subaru that didn't involve any internet or dealer hearsay, and wasn't pushing any photochops. Instead, it kept to the facts and actually involved quotes from Subaru employees and owners. I woke up sitting at my desk.. wiped the drool from my face.. and, oh wait, I must still be dreaming.

Packer
02-08-2005, 10:38 AM
Don't believe everything you read in NYT... We all know they can make up stories ;)

But it was an interesting feature I admit.

outback_97
02-08-2005, 12:05 PM
']Props to the person who can provide a picture of R. Crumb for comparison. :)

(I used to read his comics, but never knew what he looked like.)

Way OT, but if you like his art you should see the movie "Crumb". Fascinating and entertaining in the way that movies about real people are almost always more interesting than fictional ones. He's probably the most normal of his family, which is a little scary.

Steve

ride5000
02-12-2005, 10:27 AM
']Props to the person who can provide a picture of R. Crumb for comparison. :)

(I used to read his comics, but never knew what he looked like.)

there's a great documentary on him called "crumb." very strange but intriguing man.

edit: shoulda scrolled to the bottom before i replied! ;)

HB_Dad
02-12-2005, 01:51 PM
The WRX, Legacy, and Forester are beautiful in comparison.

Ummmm... yeaaaaahhh.... riiiiight! :huh:

Sure the Legacy and Outback ('05 models) look WAY better than anything Subaru has produced PREVIOUSLY. However, after seing the entire model line in one place, the Legacy and Outbacks look very dull in comparison to the Tribeca. Also, the WRX, although a top performer, is an ugly car in comparison. Foresters are uninspired looking vehicles as well. I've always been drawn to SUbarus for their versatility, but the Tribeca is the first time I've seen that ou can have greater versatility AND have a damn sexy vehicle to boot!

Me thinks ya need to see it in person... ya know! To each his own I guess... :p

Jon [in CT]
02-12-2005, 03:22 PM
Existing Subaru owners have obviously ranked styling low on their priority lists and function high. They won't have any problems with the Tribeca.

bob655
02-12-2005, 07:23 PM
Ummmm... yeaaaaahhh.... riiiiight! :huh:

Sure the Legacy and Outback ('05 models) look WAY better than anything Subaru has produced PREVIOUSLY. However, after seing the entire model line in one place, the Legacy and Outbacks look very dull in comparison to the Tribeca. Also, the WRX, although a top performer, is an ugly car in comparison. Foresters are uninspired looking vehicles as well. I've always been drawn to SUbarus for their versatility, but the Tribeca is the first time I've seen that ou can have greater versatility AND have a damn sexy vehicle to boot!

Me thinks ya need to see it in person... ya know! To each his own I guess... :p

The Legacy is dull, but it's beautiful (well, the Non-North American ones at least. The NA front ends just look frumpy, like all previous Subarus except pre-02 impreza). Given the choice though, I'd rather have inoffensive and dull than ugly and unique. Obviously the ideal would be beautiful and unique, but I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too...

The Tribeca is beautiful from the side and back - miles above anything Subaru has ever produced (except pre-02 impreza), and IMO they've hit the front and back styling right on the mark - unique, instantly recognizable as Subaru (given enough time...), and pleasing to look at. The front end, well, again it looks frumpy.

I believe the Tribeca frontend does look better in person - but why? I think the reason it looks better in person is because it looks better close up. When you're close to the car, you can't get a good grasp of its proportions and overall lines - it's just some shiny sheetmetal and chrome, which of course can look as good as you want it to look.

And I agree that the 02+ Impreza is disgustingly ugly. Period. It's also a great performing car and an example of superb engineering and value.

speedyHAM
02-12-2005, 09:28 PM
I like the '99 Impreza WRX that the rest of the world got best as far as looks. I also think the Tribecrapa looks horrid from any angle, reminds me of the VW Toureg. Almost as bad as the back end of a Bently.

STi-BOD-
02-12-2005, 09:32 PM
:lol: whats a sti?

Mike Wevrick
02-12-2005, 11:55 PM
']Existing Subaru owners have obviously ranked styling low on their priority lists and function high. They won't have any problems with the Tribeca.

Except that unless you have 4 or more kids the Outback XT is just as functional, faster, cheaper, and (IMO of course!) better looking.

Mike Wevrick
02-12-2005, 11:59 PM
However, after seing the entire model line in one place, the Legacy and Outbacks look very dull in comparison to the Tribeca.

If by "dull" you mean not as distinctive, I can agree. But I find the new Legacy / Outback better looking overall. Just my .02 of course ...

Jon [in CT]
02-13-2005, 12:15 AM
Except that unless you have 4 or more kids the Outback XT is just as functional, faster, cheaper, and (IMO of course!) better looking.With "even 3 kids" the Tribeca beats the Outback, hands down. And as for "looks" - who cares, really?

su-be3
02-13-2005, 09:20 AM
Who was it that once said, "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder?"
Naturally we can all argue about what is good looking till the cows come home!
Then there are some of us (like ME), who thinks that if it gets the job done, if it works reliably, and gets me from point A to point B in a timely and safe manner, that is all that matters.
Having owned two VW Beetles, one a Super Beetle, one 1974 Subaru GL two-door, a 2003 Outback Wagon, and now a 2004 Baja Turbo, yeah, none of them are going to be considered beautiful (although please read the first line of this response), but here's what I have found, THEY GET THE JOB DONE!!!
'Nuff said!!
P.S. Notice how all five of the cars above share something in common? :D
Keep it under 90, folks!

MDRex
02-13-2005, 09:29 AM
Personally I love the new Legacy and love the 02-03 WRX, but the front of the Tribeca needs some work. The grill is not bad, but I think the lights should come down and get incorporated more with it. I think that little change would make is many times better looking, would actualy make it very good looking.