i havent been on the board for a while and was just wondering if anyone is making big power with the gt35 i am building a stage 6 axis motor with a full valve train and am considering putting one of these on at the time of the swap since my sr50 will be a little short on breath. any info or suggestions would be great

glenn

I am building one as we speak with a crawford built motor. Well Actually TOPSPEED here in atlanta is doing if for me. But Kingpin has already done 2 and gotten serious numbers. Look over in proven bragging.

Dan

yea search for a KINGPIN gt35r kit on here it was in proven power but its not there now i think they made on c16 over 500whp going to search for it now, perrin is also releasing one so pdx will probably be showing the results in the next few weeks...

stage 6 motor? gt4067 maybe?

on a stage 6 ud wanting to be goin much bigger than a GT35R maybe a GT42R would be minimum

I think the GT35R is more than adequate for most. The GT42R is a LOT bigger than the GT35R and I wouldn't really consider it for anything short of a dedicated drag car. If you want bigger there is always the GT40R inbetween. The only person I know running a GT42R on their WRX is shooting for 8s in the 1/4...A GT35R will get you 550whp so I wouldn't really go any bigger...I am running one on my car and it is laggy as it is. I have full boost by ~5,000rpm. I couldn't imagine spooling any later with a bigger turbo...if anything I'd like to go down a notch to a GT30R ...more drivability and still 500whp capable.

So you are getting full Boost by 5000rpm :huh:
I was thinking max boost on a good setup with the EJ257 should see around 23PSI by around 4300rpm????????
Iam running the 0.84 going on car next week and hope to see 23PSI at 4500rpm MAX :devil:

Go big or go home try a GT60R/GT70R.

Serious... I think a 35 will be more than needed.

-mno

So you are getting full Boost by 5000rpm :huh:
I was thinking max boost on a good setup with the EJ257 should see around 23PSI by around 4300rpm????????
Iam running the 0.84 going on car next week and hope to see 23PSI at 4500rpm MAX :devil:

No way you're going to hit 23psi by 4300rpm. I run a 0.70 and 23psi@4300rpm is just not happening with a GT35R.

sachin, what do you think full boost will be a gt30r?

Ultimate Racing Also has a GT35R Stage 3 STI kit thats made some serious power as well.

sachin, what do you think full boost will be a gt30r?

The GT30R kits that my shop sells have a torque curve that starts to go completely flat at around 3500rpm. It really depends on the A/R you choose. When they tried a larger AR(0.82) the spoolup was delayed by 900rpm with only minimal peak power gains. For a daily driven car the GT30R seems like the way to go...for a drag car, GT35R.

Hey sachin, I heard of a GT30R that uses the 40R insides and stuff like that I dont know
enough to talk about it, but I read it was better then a Gt30R in terms of peak whp do you know anything about this?? I`am Still looking to run a 30R!! I just want to run over 400whp every day with W.I can this be done with a modified GT30R, I know they offer so.. many different types of the 30R which one should I choose?

Plus with race gas the Gt30R should put you into mid 11 second 1/4 mile.. Thats all I`am looking for, decient spool with mid-highend power... Keep in touch with me Sachin!!

Sachin, can you give us some supporting mods? The lag issue is still the big thing with, at least I think, most Sti owners. Now I emailed Clark, and he said " I honestly do not think you will find the 35R laggy as it makes so much power past 4K". :rolleyes: Plus, the owl loves his setup. Now my car has to be a daily driver, because I am loving it to much to save it for the track! And with the type of money this upgrade is going to cost me, I'm going to be stuck with it for a while. Is the GT35R a realistic choice in your opinion? Also any GT35R Sti owners--chime in!

how much cheaper do you think it would be to get a 30R instead of a 35R... Amother thing cant you change some parts-inside the turbo and make the 35R spool faster??
That would be something to look into ;) If possible

Well, the kit put down 354whp on STOCK injectors at 15psi on 91octane. Even at that it was far from a good tune. They didn't get any C16 numbers(customer decided to go with a built 2.65L, auto tranny, and GT35R in his STi) yet but they'll be coming soon. The only mods were an uppipe w/ external tial 38mm wastegate, downpipe, fuel pump, 3" MAF tube, and custom FMIC.

I don't think the GT35R is a well suited turbo for a street car--you just don't have usable power below 5k. It's a lot of fun in a straight line once boost builds...but until then its pretty lacking. If I had the cash on hand or the time I'd sell my GT35R kit and buy my shop's GT30R kit(if you check the for sale forums you can see that I tried to ditch my kit last week) but I didn't get any serious offers. I'm going to take my car out to the track(buttonwillow) this weekend and see how it does though before I make any more costly financial decisions.

http://www.kingpinperformance.com/main/images/91-gt35r.jpg If you just take a look at the_owl's 91 octane curve you can see how the power comes on and decide if you like it. At 4000rpm you have 250wtq/180whp. Personally I couldn't say anything about how their kit feels...I don't own it.

But what I can say about my GT35R kit is that its just not any fun in anything other than a straight line. I always subscribed to the "power is just a downshift away" philosophy of large turbos...but having a GT35R has made me change my mind. I drop out of my power band way too easily and I haven't ever been able to get away with downshifting less than 2 gears to get into my powerband. Do the calculations as to what gear you'll have to be in to be around 5000rpm at different cruising speeds and you'll see what I'm talking about.

If I want to pass a car going 70mph on the freeway...downshift from 6th to 4th. If you have the UTEC you can't be below 60% TPS or the UTEC won't take control...so you'll pretty much have to blow by the car next to you with at least 60% throttle...not the safest of conditions when you have 400whp on tap that comes on like a hammer. Smooth acceleration and day to day drivability is simply out of the question...this is why I keep preaching against the GT35R. Now with non-UTEC or a UTEC/Ecutek combo you can have better results in this situation..but its still annoying. I'm gonna take off guys, g'night

STi_Guy04 I'll send you a PM tomorrow answering your questions.

STi_Guy04 I'll send you a PM tomorrow answering your questions.
do u live in Cali? ;)

Well, the kit put down 354whp on STOCK injectors at 15psi on 91octane. Even at that it was far from a good tune. They didn't get any C16 numbers(customer decided to go with a built 2.65L, auto tranny, and GT35R in his STi) yet but they'll be coming soon. The only mods were an uppipe w/ external tial 38mm wastegate, downpipe, fuel pump, 3" MAF tube, and custom FMIC.

I don't think the GT35R is a well suited turbo for a street car--you just don't have usable power below 5k. It's a lot of fun in a straight line once boost builds...but until then its pretty lacking. If I had the cash on hand or the time I'd sell my GT35R kit and buy my shop's GT30R kit(if you check the for sale forums you can see that I tried to ditch my kit last week) but I didn't get any serious offers. I'm going to take my car out to the track(buttonwillow) this weekend and see how it does though before I make any more costly financial decisions.

http://www.kingpinperformance.com/main/images/91-gt35r.jpg If you just take a look at the_owl's 91 octane curve you can see how the power comes on and decide if you like it. At 4000rpm you have 250wtq/180whp. Personally I couldn't say anything about how their kit feels...I don't own it.

But what I can say about my GT35R kit is that its just not any fun in anything other than a straight line. I always subscribed to the "power is just a downshift away" philosophy of large turbos...but having a GT35R has made me change my mind. I drop out of my power band way too easily and I haven't ever been able to get away with downshifting less than 2 gears to get into my powerband. Do the calculations as to what gear you'll have to be in to be around 5000rpm at different cruising speeds and you'll see what I'm talking about.

If I want to pass a car going 70mph on the freeway...downshift from 6th to 4th. If you have the UTEC you can't be below 60% TPS or the UTEC won't take control...so you'll pretty much have to blow by the car next to you with at least 60% throttle...not the safest of conditions when you have 400whp on tap that comes on like a hammer. Smooth acceleration and day to day drivability is simply out of the question...this is why I keep preaching against the GT35R. Now with non-UTEC or a UTEC/Ecutek combo you can have better results in this situation..but its still annoying. I'm gonna take off guys, g'night

Very good writeup! Thanks for all the information, you just answered a lot of my ?'s.

do u live in Cali? ;)

Newport Beach(Orange County), if you want to get a ride/take a drive in my car to get a feel if you want a GT35R or not just ask =)

So.. Sachin are you going to make the switich to the 30R? It seems to be more fun of a turbo... Or thats what I seem to think, Are you looking to run over 400whp daily on the 30R kit, Have you concidered W.I with your set-up?

Yeah shoot me a P.M or give me a call anytime, or maybe I`ll call you Later in the day.

the gt30r looks like a great everyday turbo for those wanting power, look at the perrin kit tuned by pdx 391whp, 24psi by 4000rpms!!!! it used water injection and the pdx write up and graphs are great!!!
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=710836&highlight=perrin+gt30r

Thanks for the personal take sachin. I appreciate you answering my question. It appears from your personal experience that this is turning out to be a drag turbo. I love the numbers, but don't think I could live with the absence of power below 4000. My friends stock EVO use to perform like that. He would get that bang of power(not 500 horses of course) at about 4000, and I would already be at the next light waiting! Needless to say, he now owns an Sti. Clark was sure to tell me that there is going to be some compromise, I am just not sure I would be happy with it. Do you think larger displacement would make a difference?

I`am sure it would help out a bit, But not enough to spool the turbo by 4,000rpm
Dude go with a 30R like me, I`am trying to find out how to modifie my 30R for a bit more top end power!! I personal dont know much about turbos and stuff like this, but I Want to run more 400awhp everyday! Thats my goal... With C16 I bet I could run 460whp

hondahata If you like to take the coners... I think the 35R will be too much, your
pedal will become an off an on button, well I would ask sachin how he likes it threw the turns

The GT30R kits that my shop sells have a torque curve that starts to go completely flat at around 3500rpm. It really depends on the A/R you choose. When they tried a larger AR(0.82) the spoolup was delayed by 900rpm with only minimal peak power gains. For a daily driven car the GT30R seems like the way to go...for a drag car, GT35R.

Just to clarify, which turbo did you try the .82 AR on, the 35 or the 30? Is there a link to the kit that your shop sells?

Thanks for the good info.

OMG .. GT42R on a 2.5 .. you got to be stupid.. what makes you people think on this website

Just remember the turbo days of formula 1. 1100hp at only 1.5 liters. I think these numbers were with 50psi plus.

The utec is now running OLF mode and is activated at 25% TPS or after. It fires the injectors and coils in stand alone and does not use the stock ECU. Drivability is like stock now with the latest program. I think your car needs to be tuned if you feel the GT35R is to large of a turbo. When tuned correctly there is really no loss in power even down low and you have 300whp just past 4k rpm which is more power then 95% of the people on these forums. I find that real usable :) Also.. Our kit makes 30 psi at 5000 rpm or so and at that point has 440whp.. 365whp on 91. I guess I dont see how thats not enough or is not drivable. If I could see your dyno plots I could get a better idea of whats going on. Also. Keep in mind all kits are NOT the same. Ours is the best on the market. If it was not I would not sell it. Part of the reason our kit works so well is in some key design features like the 44mm gate and 2.5 inch upipe and of course the tuning.

Everyone here feels the GT35R is to small for the STI engine. We have tested compressor flow up around 60-62lbs a minute which is really starting to make the 35R out on race fuel. This is why we have a To4R kit in the works now. So far this kit makes 40whp more on 91 with no loss in low end to speak of and will make another 80-100whp more up top on race fuel. The gears are short in the 6mt in with no boost in vacuum the car makes more power then stock and gets better mileage. There are very few trade offs.

If you want more low end you can get the GT30R but be warned. Its going to have a real hard time making 400whp with it. Pump gas numbers really suffer with the smaller turbo. 450whp on 91 is possible with our T04R kit but even the its going to be tuned pretty hard. Its at least 100whp less then the GT35R in most cases. Pump fuel its down 50whp.

Cya

Clark






Well, the kit put down 354whp on STOCK injectors at 15psi on 91octane. Even at that it was far from a good tune. They didn't get any C16 numbers(customer decided to go with a built 2.65L, auto tranny, and GT35R in his STi) yet but they'll be coming soon. The only mods were an uppipe w/ external tial 38mm wastegate, downpipe, fuel pump, 3" MAF tube, and custom FMIC.

I don't think the GT35R is a well suited turbo for a street car--you just don't have usable power below 5k. It's a lot of fun in a straight line once boost builds...but until then its pretty lacking. If I had the cash on hand or the time I'd sell my GT35R kit and buy my shop's GT30R kit(if you check the for sale forums you can see that I tried to ditch my kit last week) but I didn't get any serious offers. I'm going to take my car out to the track(buttonwillow) this weekend and see how it does though before I make any more costly financial decisions.

http://www.kingpinperformance.com/main/images/91-gt35r.jpg If you just take a look at the_owl's 91 octane curve you can see how the power comes on and decide if you like it. At 4000rpm you have 250wtq/180whp. Personally I couldn't say anything about how their kit feels...I don't own it.

But what I can say about my GT35R kit is that its just not any fun in anything other than a straight line. I always subscribed to the "power is just a downshift away" philosophy of large turbos...but having a GT35R has made me change my mind. I drop out of my power band way too easily and I haven't ever been able to get away with downshifting less than 2 gears to get into my powerband. Do the calculations as to what gear you'll have to be in to be around 5000rpm at different cruising speeds and you'll see what I'm talking about.

If I want to pass a car going 70mph on the freeway...downshift from 6th to 4th. If you have the UTEC you can't be below 60% TPS or the UTEC won't take control...so you'll pretty much have to blow by the car next to you with at least 60% throttle...not the safest of conditions when you have 400whp on tap that comes on like a hammer. Smooth acceleration and day to day drivability is simply out of the question...this is why I keep preaching against the GT35R. Now with non-UTEC or a UTEC/Ecutek combo you can have better results in this situation..but its still annoying. I'm gonna take off guys, g'night

The utec is now running OLF mode and is activated at 25% TPS or after. It fires the injectors and coils in stand alone and does not use the stock ECU. Drivability is like stock now with the latest program. I think your car needs to be tuned if you feel the GT35R is to large of a turbo. When tuned correctly there is really no loss in power even down low and you have 300whp just past 4k rpm which is more power then 95% of the people on these forums. I find that real usable :) Also.. Our kit makes 30 psi at 5000 rpm or so and at that point has 440whp.. 365whp on 91. I guess I dont see how thats not enough or is not drivable. If I could see your dyno plots I could get a better idea of whats going on. Also. Keep in mind all kits are NOT the same. Ours is the best on the market. If it was not I would not sell it. Part of the reason our kit works so well is in some key design features like the 44mm gate and 2.5 inch upipe and of course the tuning.

Everyone here feels the GT35R is to small for the STI engine. We have tested compressor flow up around 60-62lbs a minute which is really starting to make the 35R out on race fuel. This is why we have a To4R kit in the works now. So far this kit makes 40whp more on 91 with no loss in low end to speak of and will make another 80-100whp more up top on race fuel. The gears are short in the 6mt in with no boost in vacuum the car makes more power then stock and gets better mileage. There are very few trade offs.

If you want more low end you can get the GT30R but be warned. Its going to have a real hard time making 400whp with it. Pump gas numbers really suffer with the smaller turbo. 450whp on 91 is possible with our T04R kit but even the its going to be tuned pretty hard. Its at least 100whp less then the GT35R in most cases. Pump fuel its down 50whp.

Cya

Clark

Clark, whats your opinion on the perrin gt30r kit, it made almost 400whp but with water injection. iirc it was a 52lb/min wheel with a .70ar housing... very usable powerband with good topend power... imo

The utec is now running OLF mode and is activated at 25% TPS or after. It fires the injectors and coils in stand alone and does not use the stock ECU. Drivability is like stock now with the latest program. I think your car needs to be tuned if you feel the GT35R is to large of a turbo. When tuned correctly there is really no loss in power even down low and you have 300whp just past 4k rpm which is more power then 95% of the people on these forums. I find that real usable :) Also.. Our kit makes 30 psi at 5000 rpm or so and at that point has 440whp.. 365whp on 91. I guess I dont see how thats not enough or is not drivable. If I could see your dyno plots I could get a better idea of whats going on. Also. Keep in mind all kits are NOT the same.

Thanks for the info Clark. Maybe it is my tune that is the problem. Next time I plan a trip out to AZ I'll probably be giving you a call to take a look at and probably retune my setup. Hopefully I can get out there in the next two months.

The utec is now running OLF mode and is activated at 25% TPS or after. It fires the injectors and coils in stand alone and does not use the stock ECU. Drivability is like stock now with the latest program. I think your car needs to be tuned if you feel the GT35R is to large of a turbo. When tuned correctly there is really no loss in power even down low and you have 300whp just past 4k rpm which is more power then 95% of the people on these forums. I find that real usable :) Also.. Our kit makes 30 psi at 5000 rpm or so and at that point has 440whp.. 365whp on 91. I guess I dont see how thats not enough or is not drivable. If I could see your dyno plots I could get a better idea of whats going on. Also. Keep in mind all kits are NOT the same. Ours is the best on the market. If it was not I would not sell it. Part of the reason our kit works so well is in some key design features like the 44mm gate and 2.5 inch upipe and of course the tuning.

Everyone here feels the GT35R is to small for the STI engine. We have tested compressor flow up around 60-62lbs a minute which is really starting to make the 35R out on race fuel. This is why we have a To4R kit in the works now. So far this kit makes 40whp more on 91 with no loss in low end to speak of and will make another 80-100whp more up top on race fuel. The gears are short in the 6mt in with no boost in vacuum the car makes more power then stock and gets better mileage. There are very few trade offs.

If you want more low end you can get the GT30R but be warned. Its going to have a real hard time making 400whp with it. Pump gas numbers really suffer with the smaller turbo. 450whp on 91 is possible with our T04R kit but even the its going to be tuned pretty hard. Its at least 100whp less then the GT35R in most cases. Pump fuel its down 50whp.

Cya

Clark

AwWwW..... ME so CoNfusEd :huh: Everyone has something different to say,
Clark what would you suggest for me? I just wana run 410+whp on pump gas with good spool, about the same or better that stock.. well if it makes for power down-low I see no reason not to buy a 35R!! I drive my car hard almost everyday.. so how long do you THINK it will last. All I`am looking for is an estimation on this. And will my clutch hold all this power I dont think I could drop my clutch anymore without breaking something right?? I only have 7,000 max so I think I`am S.O.L

I`ll see you in a week or so, To talk to you in person!! And we can figure out something for me that would work out, I`am moving to Avondale AZ on the 1st of March! Looking forward to see your shop ;)

1 more thing in AZ is there a front license plate Law??

later,
Sean

Sachin. let me know man. I would love to tune the car out. I bet I can get you alot of power out of the setup as yours sounds like its a bit lazy.

I have not seen the Perrin kit so I cant comment on it. I can only comment on the testing we have done with our turbo kit. We make 400-420whp on 91 octane with no water injection right now with the 35R kit on a stock car. I am not suprised it took Water and alcohol and a hard tune to reach 400 on the 30R. Its about tapped out in that area. I guess thats the point I wanted to make 450whp is possible but its going to take ALOT of boost, race fuel and a hard tune. I know because I ran that turbo myself. The compressor and turbine wheel are a bit small to make real big power on a subaru engine.

Sean.. You want the best of both worlds which is not going to happen without ALOT of cash. GT30R is never going to make over 400whp on pump fuel. Forget it. Especialy not a safe tune for street use. The GT35R can do that but you will lose low end and midrange over the 30R. $7000 is not enough to do this right and its not going to get you that.. Maybe the 2.65ltr motor and GT35R is what you really want. We all know how much that costs.

oh and you do not need a Front plate in AZ.

Cya

Clark

Hey at least I dont need a front-plate. :lol: maybe I`ll sell a kidney for 3,000 ;)
Then I`ll drop a Lung on the black market for 5,000 and there you go 2.65+Gt35
hell ya!!! (only in my Dreams)

Well I guess I could save up another 1,000 and see what I could get from the parents ;)


Later,
sean

Why not go halfway between the 2 and run a HKS GT3240?
I currently have a HKS GT3040 on a 2.5L which makes 380 whp on pulp. ( full boost at 4500 rpm)
I was thinking of upgrading to a GT35R but I dont want heaps more lag. The only downside is the cost of HKS turbos.

clark do you (or anybody) have a spool up chart/graph of the gt35r????

Hey at least I dont need a front-plate. :lol: maybe I`ll sell a kidney for 3,000 ;)
Then I`ll drop a Lung on the black market for 5,000 and there you go 2.65+Gt35
hell ya!!! (only in my Dreams)

Well I guess I could save up another 1,000 and see what I could get from the parents ;)


Later,
sean

The the 35 R supporting mods install and tuning is going to be about 8K then the 2.65L block is going to be another 7-8K installed then u still have a stock clutch to hold this

thats b/c he said he had 7k then hell sell his kidney(3k),lung(5k) and save up an extra 1k=16k anyway its pointless i dont think hes selling any body parts...

I am probably about 10k into mine so far. Going witha gt35r and a crawford s3l plus hydra and a crap of other stuff. It takes ALOT of money. people don't understand.

I am probably about 10k into mine so far. Going witha gt35r and a crawford s3l plus hydra and a crap of other stuff. It takes ALOT of money. people don't understand.

Definitely. I see a good 8k(UTEC, clutch, S3L) left before I'm done. 10k is actually REALLY cheap for what you're doing. How did you manage? Used parts? I've managed to get away with spending only $4300 so far and thought I was doing it cheap...

Yea... in a few years I`ll have a great set-up I just got to wait tell I turn 21 ;)
But yeah I was j/k about selling my body parts LOL, Do you guys know if they make bigger blocks than 2.65?

If I really wanted to do something different, Could a have like Crawford Performance Spec out a block for me like for say.... I wana have a 2.8 could they do it and make rods and pistions? If I have the cash could i make it happen

they already make a 2.8ltr. check out their website

why in the hell are those 2.65l motors so expensive?? Is anyone really buying them?? Way over-priced imo.

I dont like the turbine housings on the HKS turbos. They are also overpriced. I would rather have Garrett GT.

I dont publish Boost to RPM charts as that is indicative of the power that is made at boost levels. People seem to think that having more boost down low makes more power for some reason. Consider that our kit makes 300whp at 4250 rpm. Thats more then most people on these forums make peak. It makes 400whp at 4800 rpm and 500whp at 5500 rpm it holds over 500whp till 7000.

C

I dont publish Boost to RPM charts as that is indicative of the power that is made at boost levels. People seem to think that having more boost down low makes more power for some reason.

C

hmmmmmmm.......how much torque at 3500?

I dont like the turbine housings on the HKS turbos. They are also overpriced. I would rather have Garrett GT.

I dont publish Boost to RPM charts as that is indicative of the power that is made at boost levels. People seem to think that having more boost down low makes more power for some reason. Consider that our kit makes 300whp at 4250 rpm. Thats more then most people on these forums make peak. It makes 400whp at 4800 rpm and 500whp at 5500 rpm it holds over 500whp till 7000.

C

first off those numbers are on race gas.. on 91(your pump) octane you are only making 220whp.. im not saying that your kit isnt great (probably the best gt35r kit out) but to me the fun doesnt hit until 5000rpms, and as a daily driver i dont see that as practrical.. but i have never been in a gt35r sti(anybody in queens or area want to give me a ride ill be willing to accept). so im not standing on any firm info im looking at paper to paper and as a daily driver a gt30r seems to fit the need good but i can agree with you that if your goal is 400+whp a gt30r isnt the way to go even though it can be pused to those numbers!!

Theres the daily driver thing again.
Why do people want to go 0-60 in 3.5 secs in City traffic?
I dont see full boost at 3000rpm as practical for daily driving.
think about it
If you want to get on it. Then get on it. Rev up a tad and launch. If your going full out on the throttle, does it really matter where your boost level is in the rpm range?
Just find the right gear (in the case of bigger turbos).
My GT35R drives in daily traffic like a slow Naturally Aspirated 4 banger. Which is fine forthat type of driving: no noise, less wear, good gas mileage, less heat, less attention, and easy for butts to nuts stop and go. I rarely need to bring the boost gauge to "0"

Theres the daily driver thing again.
Why do people want to go 0-60 in 3.5 secs in City traffic?
I dont see full boost at 3000rpm as practical for daily driving.
think about it
If you want to get on it. Then get on it. Rev up a tad and launch. If your going full out on the throttle, does it really matter where your boost level is in the rpm range?
Just find the right gear (in the case of bigger turbos).
My GT35R drives in daily traffic like a slow Naturally Aspirated 4 banger. Which is fine forthat type of driving: no noise, less wear, good gas mileage, less heat, less attention, and easy for butts to nuts stop and go. I rarely need to bring the boost gauge to "0"


I agree with the above- I think that makes it a better daily driver. SOmetimes I wish I could turn the boost off with a switch to improve fuel economy. (I'm ecutek not UTEC- I know the switch is available)

Theres the daily driver thing again.
Why do people want to go 0-60 in 3.5 secs in City traffic?
I dont see full boost at 3000rpm as practical for daily driving.
think about it
If you want to get on it. Then get on it. Rev up a tad and launch. If your going full out on the throttle, does it really matter where your boost level is in the rpm range?
Just find the right gear (in the case of bigger turbos).
My GT35R drives in daily traffic like a slow Naturally Aspirated 4 banger. Which is fine forthat type of driving: no noise, less wear, good gas mileage, less heat, less attention, and easy for butts to nuts stop and go. I rarely need to bring the boost gauge to "0"

i guess i never looked at it like that.. good point.

Theres the daily driver thing again.
Why do people want to go 0-60 in 3.5 secs in City traffic?
I dont see full boost at 3000rpm as practical for daily driving.
think about it
If you want to get on it. Then get on it. Rev up a tad and launch. If your going full out on the throttle, does it really matter where your boost level is in the rpm range?
Just find the right gear (in the case of bigger turbos).
My GT35R drives in daily traffic like a slow Naturally Aspirated 4 banger. Which is fine forthat type of driving: no noise, less wear, good gas mileage, less heat, less attention, and easy for butts to nuts stop and go. I rarely need to bring the boost gauge to "0"

bravo...well said.