View Full Version : K&N Typhoon and Perrin FMIC
nomorem3 02-18-2005, 04:24 PM I tried to search for this and I didnt find anything (im also at work and cant be searching all day).
But I currently have a K&N Typhoon intake on my car and I just ordered the Perrin FMIC.
Does anyone here have that combo? and can you tell me how you rigged it to fit?
I was thinking of cutting the K&N pipe just before the bend to shorten the tube, but I dont have the FMIC yet and dont know how much space i'll need.
Any suggestions?
or link me to a thread if there is on...thanks
boxered 02-18-2005, 04:45 PM My suggestion..sell the K&N if you want a FMIC.
nomorem3 02-18-2005, 05:29 PM wow, that helps...
i dont mind cutting to make it fit...
any other suggestions?
i also said that the FMIC is already ordered...i can afford to get another intake n yadda yadda but i dont wanna! lol
antimullet 02-18-2005, 06:22 PM Hey Man, I have a perring fmic and a typhoon short ram.
Don't cut it you'll run into more problems with rubbing near the intake manifold.
It fits without the heat shield, you just gotta finesse it in.
nomorem3 02-18-2005, 06:32 PM haha sweet
thanks man...
yeah i was wondering cause all i had to work with was the pictures that i've seen online of the Perrin FMIC piping...didnt actually have it in my hands to test fit it...
sounds good! i get to keep my snazzy K&N
sti9097 02-18-2005, 09:04 PM so the k&n will deffialy work with the perrin fmic cause i just order the fmic and i was worried about that......does it fit good?? or does it looked all rigged up and ****
vtecTHIS 02-18-2005, 10:39 PM any pics would kick ass. i got the typhoon, i'm stuck on which fmic to get right now. worst case i think the arc comes with one...
Focus4 02-18-2005, 11:39 PM the perrin intake will definitly fit if the K&N doesn't... just try the k&n and if it doesn't work then sell it for the same price as the perrin!
vtecTHIS 02-19-2005, 12:13 AM us typhoon owners want to keep our pretty pipe :D i'll live without the heatsheild
antimullet 02-19-2005, 10:45 AM Trust me it fits, you just gotta place the filter in the engine bay first, then lower the tube down between the ic piping and manifold, clamp the filter on, then clamp the tub to the turbo inlet pipe. Its tight but you can do it.
Again, I'd post a pic but my dumbass doesn't now how to do it here.
SINthetic 02-19-2005, 11:35 AM I wanna see the pic as well. Dont wanna loose my KN when i go FMIC.
boxered 02-19-2005, 01:08 PM wow, that helps...
i dont mind cutting to make it fit...
any other suggestions?
Cutting the K&N pipe? Sounds like a real smart thing to do :rolleyes: . Don't think that'll screw up the airflow and, therefore, the MAF reading?
Doesn't really make much sense to cut this, force that, etc when you could just sell the K&N, they're in demand, and get an APS CAI that's designed to work with a FMIC. Unless you're that concerned about losing a whole 2whp switching from the K&N to the APS.
nomorem3 02-19-2005, 01:27 PM Cutting the K&N pipe? Sounds like a real smart thing to do :rolleyes: . Don't think that'll screw up the airflow and, therefore, the MAF reading?
Doesn't really make much sense to cut this, force that, etc when you could just sell the K&N, they're in demand, and get an APS CAI that's designed to work with a FMIC. Unless you're that concerned about losing a whole 2whp switching from the K&N to the APS.
ok smart guy...cutting the pipe after the MAF would screw up the reading? ;) would you mind explaining this rocket science to me?
im not very patient when it comes to waiting for parts to come in, i'd rather rig something up and keep my "pretty K&N" haha
i dont know about you, but im not too bad with my hands...fabbing doesnt really scare me too much...wanna tell me how stupid it is to do a V-mount IC on my lil bro's S13 when we can just purchase a FMIC?
anyways...i dont wanna continue arguing...me and the others here as you can see wanted to know if it could be done...and apparently it can without choppin away at shi3t
if anyone else has pics...please post! :D
wrxtremeWGN 02-19-2005, 03:06 PM if anyone else has pics...please post! :D
if u need some1 to host those pics email them to me.
fourortwowheels@aol.com
antimullet 02-19-2005, 05:17 PM Thanks wrxtreme WGN I just sent you the pic.
I started messing with the idea of cutting some of the intake down to fit better. Particularly the maf connector would rub my fmic charge pipe when I had it mounted before but it really wasn't a big deal. Also, I got to looking at the way the silicon K&N coupler was while installed. I noticed it was bent fairly good to get it to fit. Still, never had an issue but I could see where the slight bend in the silicon coupler may decrease flow very slightly.
So in short I said to hell with it and I cut a 1/2 inch off the typhoon intake and it fits even better now. No rubbing on the charge pipe, and the coupler transition is nice and smooth the way it should be.
And NO this will not cause any problems. Its after the maf sensor.
antimullet 02-19-2005, 05:21 PM Cutting the K&N pipe? Sounds like a real smart thing to do :rolleyes: . Don't think that'll screw up the airflow and, therefore, the MAF reading?
Doesn't really make much sense to cut this, force that, etc when you could just sell the K&N, they're in demand, and get an APS CAI that's designed to work with a FMIC. Unless you're that concerned about losing a whole 2whp switching from the K&N to the APS.
Take a good look at the aps pod filter. I doubt it will work on the Perrin FMIC cause the charge pipe enters through the front fender hole. I think the aps enters through the rear hole. So coming straight out the 90 degree elbow from the turbo inlet pipe will cause it to hit the charge pipe. ;)
Besides, what fun is it when you CAN'T cut this and make that fit? I'd buy a Lego set if I wanted everything silly easy to do...
wrxtremeWGN 02-19-2005, 06:30 PM we-todd-did-racing is experiencing some diffuclties. pics should be up asap!
vtecTHIS 02-19-2005, 07:03 PM photobucket!!
wrxtremeWGN 02-19-2005, 07:42 PM photobucket it is ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/fourortwowheels/knfmic.jpg
sti9097 02-19-2005, 10:06 PM do u think its messing up afr or flow being like that??
ESEMES 02-20-2005, 12:47 PM my solution....
http://www.gsxrpaddock.com/files/fmic5.jpg
aps CAI (65mm) and the gen2 APS dr725
boxered 02-20-2005, 01:01 PM ok smart guy...cutting the pipe after the MAF would screw up the reading? ;) would you mind explaining this rocket science to me?
You didn't mention where you were going to be cutting the pipe in your oringinal post. If you want to hack your Typhoon, by all means, go for it.
sti9097 02-20-2005, 01:11 PM anyone here running these intercoolers on the stock turbo....if so did u guys loose any boost ....and how is lag with the fmic??
antimullet 02-20-2005, 01:43 PM anyone here running these intercoolers on the stock turbo....if so did u guys loose any boost ....and how is lag with the fmic??
Originally yes, and yes. Quite a increase in lag with the stock turbo. However, with a ECUTEK flash from Kingpin it was almost the same as stock spoolup by around 200 rpm, but better power all around.
Thanks Mike!
Now with the Green its butta... :D
sti9097 02-20-2005, 01:45 PM how many psi where u running after u put the fmic on....also did u guys notice an increase in power after the fmic was on
antimullet 02-20-2005, 03:02 PM Well the psi I adjusted via a MBC.
You're not gonna noitce any power increase withe just a fmic all other things equal per se....
But what you will definitely notice is the elimination of heatsoak, reduced underhood temps, and a reduction in the stock ecus pulling timing due to heatsoak.
So I guess you can say you'll see a more consistent power level.
You will notice less power if you do not tune for the new fmic due to the extra lag if you go bigger like the Perrin. So in all, you really need to tune for it and take advantage of the nice cool air.
Optimus Prime 02-20-2005, 03:04 PM my solution....
http://www.gsxrpaddock.com/files/fmic5.jpg
aps CAI (65mm) and the gen2 APS dr725
What does this have to do with this thread? Maybe you should tell him to get a Supra cause the Supras intake works with an Intercooler.
vtecTHIS 02-20-2005, 04:48 PM thanks for the pic :D i'll prob go the same route if i get to lazy to get a new intake. this is my second intake, i just don't want to go for number 3 :o should of just kept the blitz... oh well
NORCAL STI 02-20-2005, 05:38 PM i think ill just keep my blitz sus
nomorem3 02-20-2005, 08:08 PM photobucket it is ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/fourortwowheels/knfmic.jpg
thx for the pic!! :D
sti9097 02-20-2005, 09:15 PM how much psi wher eu running before and after u put the fmic before adjusting the mbc
antimullet 02-20-2005, 09:22 PM Its been a while man but I probably lost a psi or so??? Just guessing. But where you feel it is the extra lag, so it will actually make your car feel weaker. That's why I'm highly recommending you tune for it, or at least control your boost someway in the mean time to get some of the performance back.
sti9097 02-20-2005, 09:29 PM yea i have ecutek so i dont think i can raise the boost anymore then it is
NORCAL STI 02-21-2005, 01:46 AM does it matter if intake is turned like that or no?
vtecTHIS 02-21-2005, 02:29 AM i don't see why it would
antimullet 02-21-2005, 09:36 AM Nah, cause either way you install it its still a hard metal pipe. The air can only flow in it one way.
STI 9097, you cna have your ecutek tuner adjust for the fmic. You can usually get away with a degre more timing, and more boost due to the increased cooling efficiency.
sti9097 02-21-2005, 09:45 AM alright thanks man
|