I may be re-hashing an old thread but here goes, after seeing the 2 -seat sports car, last year, is Subaru thinking about making one?
My line of thinking, single or twin turbo, 6-cylinder, 6-speed, maybe in a coupe version.
I don't know, am I out of line with this thought?
Keep it under 90, folks!

Yes.
2-door STi would be great.

Yes.
2-door STi would be great.
Yeah, 2 door STI's rule

(V5/6 type-r reference here).

Are you thinking about the B9 Scrambler?

as much as I like the looks of a coupe, the 4 door is a lot more handy, and i would probably opt for the 4 door instead of the coupe.

I would like to see a two-seater by Subaru. Somewhere in the corvette price and performance range. It would be the only such sports car you could drive in the winter in some parts of the US. Excluding the AWD Porsches of course. Twin turbo H6 would be the only way to go.

I think Subaru should build a new 914. They've already got all the parts they need sitting on the shelf and the sport roadster market is about to become hot again. :D

2 door STi, alas good ole' 22B.

The 914 comment reminded me of the OSCA Dromos 2500 GT. 2.5L subaru mid mounted for 187bhp (NA I assume). 680kg/1500lbs, 45/55 fr/rear weight distribution. OSCA made a bunch of successful small displacement race cars in the 1950s - it was run by the Maserati brothers after their company was bought by the Orsis.
http://nam.hp.infoseek.co.jp/osca/
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre4/osca/dromos/2001_osca_dromos_02_m.jpg
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre4/osca/dromos/2001_osca_dromos_12_m.jpg
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre4/osca/dromos/2001_osca_dromos_09_m.jpg

How about a 3 wheeled 2 seater like an 'AWD' Carver.

http://www.carver.nl/Carver_Leaflet.pdf

Subaru already made an EJ-based sports car.

Sort of.


Delfino Feroce, anyone? :) www.delfino.co.uk

http://www.autogazeta.com/c/8/b/delfino_01.jpg

That red car is HOT! I have been a fan of the 914 for a long time. Someday I will own one. Need a garage first. Yes, I know the red car pictured is not a 914...


Zach

one word/3 letters return of the SVX (B11s)

The SVX and B11S are both 4/5 seaters.

Subaru already made an EJ-based sports car.

Sort of.


Delfino Feroce, anyone? :) www.delfino.co.uk


Subaru never made that, and Delfino has never made a production version, yet. Their website says the production version will have 8 cylinders(would be cool if that meant 2 subaru engines). Their website has had the same information on it for a long time now, so I wouldn't hold your breath.


I hope Subaru makes a true sports car(B9SC based, or otherwise). A 2 door Impreza or a B11 based car is not a true sports car, and I don't even see the point of a 2 door impreza unless it's totally redesigned as a coupe. It's a sedan body style, 2 doors won't look right on it.

I hold my breath for no-one. :D And I never said Subaru made it. I said "sort of."

Meaning that it's a Subaru powerplant. :)


The car will never go in to full production, IMO. The concept came out five years ago and there's no progress yet.

As for the Impreza coupe/sedan thing.... I think it could easily look fine as a 2-door. Look at the GC/GF: it pulled off THREE bodystyles. No reason the new-age car couldn't.


But I agree that Subaru ought to try something sporty.

Subaru should be able to come up with a reasonably priced small open car, with the 2.5 N/A motor, with the turbo maybe as an option, that would compete with the Maita. This segment of the market has been lacking competitors, especially since the demise of the MR2. Sure would beat the Baja :)

It'd be different, that's for sure. I for one am not convinced that the family-sedan-gone-WRC-racer era will last forever (not that I'd mind if it did :D ), so branching out might be wise...

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Yet another armchair marketing expert

I would love to see a Subaru sports car that doesn't look like a Thunderbird (sorry Scrambler fans!) :lol:

http://www.cars101.com/imp-RS-98-1.JPG

What is wrong with this?

Although I wouldn't mind seeing a Coupe sized door and a Saturn/Mazda like suicide 3rd and 4th back door. Add a Hatchback and folding seats and you have a winning combination. As long as it has Adjustable seat bolsters and AR head rests. Would even look good on a SVX. Especially if it had the Lambo like vertical doors.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/pb247181fd9a3ff7e42b8d5420b5ced23/f784c7d4.jpg

http://www.cars101.com/imp-RS-98-1.JPG

What is wrong with this?

The 4 door just looks more natural, the dimensions are the same but the 2 door looks a lot stubbier. The size of the rear side windows and the steepness of the C-pillar doesn't flow very well with a 2 door style. I'm no designer, so it's hard to describe, but basically it looks like a sedan body style with 2 doors slapped on(which it is).

Now I've owned both a 2 door and a 4 door Impreza, so it's not that I think there is anything particularly wrong with the 2 door. I'd like them to do another 2 door, but I think the body should be slightly changed to look the part better(mostly in the C-pillar). Styling is all a matter of opinion, but I think most people would agree that a Impreza coupe with a more coupe like rake to the rear window would look better(or even a fastback look, that could be cool).

If I ever do another project GC, it will be a 4 door.... or maybe wagon, might as well go for the trifecta.

Would even look good on a SVX. Especially if it had the Lambo like vertical doors.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/pb247181fd9a3ff7e42b8d5420b5ced23/f784c7d4.jpg


If this is the kit I think it is, it looks good when the doors are open, however when closed, those lambo doors leave gaps in the seams. I like the idea of tthe suicide doors for the B11s though.

Eby, I agree with your opinions on the GC coupe. That's why I bought the sedan--I just thought the coupe looked "funky" somehow.

But, honestly, the car looks much, much better with a slight drop, and basic STi underbody styling goodies. So I don't know--to me, perhaps it's just the OE look of the RS coupe that turned me off; something that was offset by two extra doors.

*shrug*

Jiotto Caspita had a subaru 12 designed for F1

http://www.fast-autos.net/jiotto/jiottocaspita.html

Sedan looks better than the coupe.....LOL
Majority agree that the GC coupe is the best looking one of them all.

A. That may not be true, a lot of people like the 4 door better, which has more fans I don't know, and neither do you.

B, Most of the people that make all the noise on the forums about Subaru not offering a 2 door have some weird hang up on the idea of driving a 4 door, so anything with 2 doors would look better to them. :rolleyes:

Oh, and in the 2 years that both the sedan and coupe 2.5rs's were made, the sedan outsold the coupe by a little bit if that says anything.

That and if the coupe was the resounding favorite, I'd think Subaru's marketing pros would've told R&D to produce the new car as a coupe, not a sedan, hmm?

how bout a STi Hatch? hatches are hot.

I think they could stand to make a sti coupe, but a hatch maybe that should be like a 2.5rs thing or something a sti hatch would bother me. It isnt... idk

Scrambler!

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/images/subaru/B9Scrambler.jpg

There are Impreza WRX hatches already. They are called wagons but really they are hatchbacks, while the Forester is the wagon and the sedan the sedan. Look around you will find most small wagons, the size of the Impreza, are called hatchbacks by everyone else. Were as the Forester is not really a small SUV as much as a big wagon.

They already came out with the Scrambler five years ago :lol:

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/Thunderbird/Images/LeftFront.jpg

Scrambler!

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/images/subaru/B9Scrambler.jpg

WoW thats a funny comparision, They both do look alike.

Well I wana see a STI 3.7 Boxer-6, of course AWD Sedan with some damn good turbo!!! It would be called the 911 GT2 Killer :devil: with 480whp 425wtq
and a top speed of 190, thats my subi Dream ;)

Hey the already make a 2.5 so why not 6cyl 3.7, they could sell them for 60,000
Hell I would buy one!

The T-bird is hardly comparable to the Scrambler. T-bird is way overpriced, lousy handling, RWD, etc. Subaru could make an awesome convertible using the same basic chassis and drivetrain choices as the Impreza and in the same price range. With AWD and an optional hardtop it could also be used all year round in snowy areas, unlike most convertibles.

Yea, I think the T-bird comparison is reaching pretty far. I don't think the two look anything alike. Well there is the 2 doors, 4 wheels and a convertible top, so they may have been seperated at birth.

Umm, Subaru already made a 2 seat sports car. XT DL.

k i did this in three minutes...haha my sti p.s'ed two door!..Yea! :lol:

http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00001/10/24/1064201_l.jpg

uhhh. yikes? Would be good with a better photochop :D

Here's something from http://www.rs25.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13845 that isn't a Photshop:

http://www.rs25.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11890

Given Subaru's stated market strategy is to go upmarket, I don't see a Miata fighter as part of that plan. And I think they probably still have the wounds from the SVX - good car it may well have been, but it was not a sales success. Just to be hoped if they have another go at the "GT" segment, they won't screw themselves again by using bizarre windows...and by having auto only.

Given Subaru's stated market strategy is to go upmarket, I don't see a Miata fighter as part of that plan.Think of it as a Boxster fighter, then.

Yup; they could make a car competitive with the Boxster for a similar price to the Miata.

And I'd like to see another try at something similar to the SVX (eg B11S)

Yes, either the H6 or a turbo flat four would work great if they put it in the middle - like Porsche. It is the perfect set up for that kind of car. Just use the fwd arrangement, transmission is already lengthwise - ideal weight distribution - and they have a great car. Now they just need the right platform, which seems difficult.

We've discussed this before, if you guys recall R&T did a spread on the Scrambler about 1 1/2 years ago. It had ride height adjustment, two engine hybrid, and a lot of power.

It's my wife's favorite Subaru, she wants one :banana: ...and she's not usually as big a fan as I.

http://www.22b.com/media/evo_feb_22b_pic2.jpeg

yeah stupid 2 doors.

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/images/p1/myp1b.jpg

subaru has definatly made better 4 doors... :p

http://www.1999hobbysearch.com/dbimages/user/hobby/itbig/10020271.jpg

Now that I think about it more the Scrambler could have both a basic Miatalike version with 2.5na and a souped-up version with the 2.5t. Kinda like the differnt levels of Impreza/Legacy/Forester are now.

I really don't see Subaru doing a midengine car though; way too much new engineering.

Yea that's what I hope they do, 2.5na model, 2.5t model. Well, I guess first things first, I just hope they make a 2 door roadster. If they don't offer a turbo model, I could always take care of that part myself.

The car would be good for Subaru. Bring it with the convertible hard top and it would sell in both warm and cold climats. The roadster market is getting kind of crowded, but with AWD, it would set itself apart from most of the others. Plus it would just be good for Subaru's image with the whole upscale thing they're trying to do now.

Here is the link to the R&T story:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1165&page_number=4

combined hp of 274!!! :p

http://www.cars101.com/imp-RS-98-1.JPG

What is wrong with this?

Ummm... it's a sedan that looks like every other "rice burner" out there?

If Subaru DOES do a Sports car, it should be a two door hatch coupe like the old Nissan/Datsun 280Z, but with an elegant yet aggressive interior design as seen on the B9 Tribeca.

Like this with the B9 Tribeca styling cues (AND GRILLE) added in:

http://www.zcar.com/images/month/9902/febz4.jpg

It appears some people above can't tell the difference between 2-seats (the topic of this thread) and 2-doors. :rolleyes:

i could care less about 5 passengers.. as long as i can have 2 doors :)... or the B11S would seriously be somethin amazing..can you say corvetter killer?

Here is the link to the R&T story:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1165&page_number=4

combined hp of 274!!! :p

I doubt they would put the hybid powertrain (or height-adjustable suspension) in a production convertible. I think they were only put in the concept car to show off the technology.

The whole Subaru hybrid system seems to have been shelved anyway; they are just going to buy Toyota's technology.

I certainly hope they don't make a 2 seat sports car with all that heavy stuff on it. All that would be great on a sedan, but who wants that stuff slowing down a roadster. Keep it simple, light, and somewhat affordable and it would be a hit.

Yes, I realize that, but if that technology eventually makes its way into different production cars, that will still be nice.

height adjustable suspension= has to eventually go into the B9 :)

I found this photoshop version....

http://home.pacbell.net/arval/10625subaru_pro_coupe-med.jpeg

http://home.pacbell.net/arval/7155impreza_foro.jpeg

nice!

height adjustable suspension= has to eventually go into the B9 :)
Why is that? They offered it on USDM subies in the 80's and continued offering it in Japan.. but the Forester and Outback haven't seen it in the US.

I love the 8.7' clearance on my Outback XT, but it would be nice to be able to adjust say from 6. to 9 inches that way on the highway you can drop it and in the snow raise it. :D

I found this photoshop version....Those don't look like pictures of a two-seater to me.