From SWRT, in a letter dated February 25, 2005:

Unknown to rally fans across the world, on a cold, damp and rainy morning in mid- February the brand new Subaru Impreza WRC2005 was being loaded into a truck at the Subaru World Rally Team Headquarters in Banbury,
UK to be covertly moved to a top-secret studio 30 miles away. Un-loaded on arrival, the car went unnoticed as it was pushed into a photography studio normally reserved for high-profile fashion photography. The car was there in order for the team to obtain a selection of images ahead of its launch on 28 February

There is a fuzzy picture taken from the rear and it looks as if all the photocrops predicting narrow lights are wrong.

http://www.subaru-msm.com/feature/letterSWRT/57.html

http://www.subaru-msm.com/feature/letterSWRT/57_1.jpg

Looks like it's the same body as current...

looks like the s203 wing, though

Old news (check http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=723380). And by the way, that's a photochop (i.e. not a real picture of the photo shoot). Sorry :(

Old news yes, but this photo is not Photoshop. The car is blurry due to depth of field effect by focusing a camera lens on a near object. Taking a longish focal length lens and adjusting the F-stop down until depth of field reduces (Blur) creates this effect. Almost any amateur photographer knows how to do it.

New taillights will be the same as the old taillights.

Someone already pointed out the fact that this is not a real picture because of the disappearing cord in the other thread. If you look at the power cord for the light it is in the fore ground, however, disappears underneath the car.

This is so ghey with all of these pchops!!!

Old news yes, but this photo is not Photoshop. The car is blurry due to depth of field effect by focusing a camera lens on a near object. Taking a longish focal length lens and adjusting the F-stop down until depth of field reduces (Blur) creates this effect. Almost any amateur photographer knows how to do it.

New taillights will be the same as the old taillights.

Then explain why the cord of the spot light disappears BEHIND the car when the light is in the foreground?

If you look closley... perhaps the resolution of your computer is low. The chord dose not disappear rather it is blured allong with the rest of the photos to cover up the exact image of what it will look like.

If you look closley... perhaps the resolution of your computer is low. The chord dose not disappear rather it is blured allong with the rest of the photos to cover up the exact image of what it will look like.
...meaning that the pic is photoshopped, but only by using the blur tool. Spoiler looks exactly like the current one, not like the S203 to me. Who knows if this is actually the 2005 car or if its just a picture that they used so they'd have a pic. Just trying to fuel rumors here...

Sorry, there is NO evidence of the cord visable. Here, I sharpened the edges of the piture in photoshop, and enlarged it. Take a look for yourself...

http://img168.exs.cx/img168/3950/swrt5ij.jpg

also not DOF because the white reflective board isn't blurred, plus the type of blur is totally off.

looks like the s203 wing, though

Mmmm... Looks like the same old WRC wing to me. What are you talking about?

Old news yes, but this photo is not Photoshop. The car is blurry due to depth of field effect by focusing a camera lens on a near object. Taking a longish focal length lens and adjusting the F-stop down until depth of field reduces (Blur) creates this effect. Almost any amateur photographer knows how to do it.

New taillights will be the same as the old taillights.

The blur is not due to depth of field. The blur is due to Photoshoppage. Wether the car was pasted in and blurred or was already there and blurred cannot be distinguised. But as a matter of fact, it is Photoshopped.

Mmmm... Looks like the same old WRC wing to me. What are you talking about?



The blur is not due to depth of field. The blur is due to Photoshoppage. Wether the car was pasted in and blurred or was already there and blurred cannot be distinguised. But as a matter of fact, it is Photoshopped.

I don't see any evidence on how the car is already there. The cord disappears BEHIND the car when the car should be behind the cord, and also. Why would subaru go back to using the 2002-2003 tail lights anyway? Going backwards instead of forward seems to me ubserd. :huh:

The thing is.................why would they even bother posting this article on their website and blurring out the car IF there were no cosmetic changes to be revealed; that would seem absurd ? I honestly think we will see some (major) re-styling of the front end of the WRC2005 which could easily be incorporated into the '06 STi (or maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part).

its an obvious sloppy photoshop job. but imho the car is in the studio being photographed. what exactly they're trying to hide, who knows.

The picture is just a simulation of a photo shoot.
An old rally car picture had its background removed, then was overlaid on a white background with a drop shadow and then blurred (to hide the details and make it seem possibly new). Next, foreground camera stuff was overlaid on top (crudely, since the cord was obscured). You can also see an error in the shadow under the car with a white fringe around the right wheel and under the camera (an indication of separate car, shadow, and camera layers in photoshop, if you are too sloppy to trim the edges neatly).

But I don't think anyone was trying to pass this off as a real picture, just an illustration for a story.

I don't see any evidence on how the car is already there. The cord disappears BEHIND the car when the car should be behind the cord, and also. Why would subaru go back to using the 2002-2003 tail lights anyway? Going backwards instead of forward seems to me Abserd. :huh:

Actually, it looks very much so to be the 04-05 taillights as the color is a tad brighter and reddish. And I never disputed that the car isn't pasted in. I said it could be either way. The smaller picture looks as if the chord is blurred as well, but blown up, the pictures leans towards the car being PSd in.

Either way, I highly doubt that picture is an actual picture of the car. Like mentioned before, it's probably just a simulation.

I just see no evidence of the small circles in the lower corners that come on the 05's lights.

another pic from that site

http://www.subaru-msm.com/feature/letterSWRT/57_3.jpg

interesting that there are no blurred out pics of the front end

I don't see any evidence on how the car is already there. The cord disappears BEHIND the car when the car should be behind the cord, and also. Why would subaru go back to using the 2002-2003 tail lights anyway? Going backwards instead of forward seems to me ubserd. :huh:

You seriously can tell whether that red blob is an 02/03 or 04/05 taillight? :huh:

...of course you see no evidence of the red circles on the 04/05 lights - it's a freakin' red blob!

I just see no evidence of the small circles in the lower corners that come on the 05's lights.

The color difference between the 04/05 taillights are noticably different than that of the 02/03 Imprezas. The 04/05 being a brighter vibrant red.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/enewtabie/Picture134.jpg

http://img3.exs.cx/img3/2448/rearwrx.jpg

Also, though it's hard to tell, the blur on the corner doesnt goto point but rounds out instead. And the tailights seem to flush out half way down similar to that of the 04/05.

You people conspiracy theory too much.

The picture is just a simulation of a photo shoot.
An old rally car picture had its background removed, then was overlaid on a white background with a drop shadow and then blurred (to hide the details and make it seem possibly new). Next, foreground camera stuff was overlaid on top (crudely, since the cord was obscured). You can also see an error in the shadow under the car with a white fringe around the right wheel and under the camera (an indication of separate car, shadow, and camera layers in photoshop, if you are too sloppy to trim the edges neatly).

But I don't think anyone was trying to pass this off as a real picture, just an illustration for a story.

If you look hard enough, you can see Jesus hanging onto the spoiler. :disco:

just wait and seee! it's funny how's there are all these talks about this ONE picture

Well, the long anticipated photos of the WRC2005 are available on the SWRT site - No new nose, no new taillights. The big change appears to be the wider wheel well arches.

I guess even the PhotoShop "experts" can be fooled……………..

When I think about it, the clue to what the car was going to look like was right in front of us all the time, the name, WRC2005. If the car were going to look significantly different, Subaru would name it WRC2006.

Here is the link http://www.swrt.com/689152.html

Cheers

:p


:D

Well, the long anticipated photos of the WRC2005 are available on the SWRT site - No new nose, no new taillights. The big change appears to be the wider wheel well arches.

I guess even the PhotoShop "experts" can be fooled……………..

When I think about it, the clue to what the car was going to look like was right in front of us all the time, the name, WRC2005. If the car were going to look significantly different, Subaru would name it WRC2006.

Here is the link http://www.swrt.com/689152.html

CheersPosted earlier this morning:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9062605&postcount=97

When I think about it, the clue to what the car was going to look like was right in front of us all the time, the name, WRC2005. If the car were going to look significantly different, Subaru would name it WRC2006.

Nah, Subaru would've up and said it would've incorperated the new front end. When the last two new look cars were debuted, it was no secret there was gonna be a new front end.

The WRC doesn't use MY naming conventions like the retail companies do. The car is named after the year it will compete. ;)

have to say this is exactly what i expected

Yup. :)

So wheres the new grill what happened?? are we gonna be stuck with this same impreza for another 2 yrs??

Those new fender flares are intimidating to say the least! Me likey..

have to say this is exactly what i expected

Me too. Subaru would be stupid to announce a redesigned car at a rally instead of an auto show. The press in the United States does not follow rally racing.

So wheres the new grill what happened?? are we gonna be stuck with this same impreza for another 2 yrs??

What happened was the 2005 was just an improvement of the 2004, and would not feature the redesigned look; which is what alot of us, including me, have been trying to say.

Subaru will launch the new look Impreza at an autoshow later this year or next, if it is indeed coming.

Inspector Clouseau says: "Photoshop, No "
Old news yes, but this photo is not Photoshop. The car is blurry due to depth of field effect by focusing a camera lens on a near object. Taking a longish focal length lens and adjusting the F-stop down until depth of field reduces (Blur) creates this effect. Almost any amateur photographer knows how to do it.

New taillights will be the same as the old taillights.

Let's not forget Clouseau was a bumbling idiot.

We weren't fooled. It's still obviously a photoshop and nothing close to a depth of field effect. Whether or not we thought it was the actual car, may be arguably wrong. But as far as the chopping of the picture goes, it was definately chopped.

Subaru will launch the new look Impreza at an autoshow later this year or next, if it is indeed coming.Let's look a recent history - like all the way back to Jan 27, 2005. That's the day Subaru premiered the redesigned Forester to the world, which they described as a "major facelift." The Forester is much more important to Subaru (as measured by unit sales worldwide) than the Impreza. So which major auto show was selected for this important premier? None. Subaru simply issued a press release on Jan 27 to say that it was available that day in Subaru showrooms in Japan (http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/news/press/2005/05_01_27e.pdf).

But, if you're into auto show premiers, Subaru will hold a press conference in about 12 hours at the Geneva Auto Salon. Now that the old-style WRC2005 announcement has been completed, maybe Subaru's ready to announce the new-style road car. Stay tuned.

']Let's look a recent history - like all the way back to Jan 27, 2005. That's the day Subaru premiered the redesigned Forester to the world, which they described as a "major facelift." The Forester is much more important to Subaru (as measured by unit sales worldwide) than the Impreza. So which major auto show was selected for this important premier? None. Subaru simply issued a press release on Jan 27 to say that it was available that day in Subaru showrooms in Japan (http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/news/press/2005/05_01_27e.pdf).

BTW, Subaru is about to hold a press conference at a major auto show (Geneva) in 12 hours. Stay tuned.

Whatever :P. When the redesign comes, Subaru will let us know.

Whatever :P. When the redesign comes, Subaru will let us know.
Yeah, they'll send you email to invite you to the premier.

']Yeah, they'll send you email to invite you to the premier.

Look at Jon with the snappy wit. Is it "that time" Mr. Attitude? :devil:

Believe it or not, the issue of whether or not a redesigned Impreza will be sold this year in the US is important to many members (and to the nearly equal number of non-members) who read this forum. If you're content to wait until you see advertisements about the redesigned Impreza, then why bother posting here?

']Believe it or not, the issue of whether or not a redesigned Impreza will be sold this year in the US is important to many members (and to the nearly equal number of non-members) who read this forum. If you're content to wait until you see advertisements about the redesigned Impreza, then why bother posting here?

You seem quite content in assuming what I and other people are thinking, and continue to misinterpret posts.

My comment about Subaru letting us know was in regards to press confrences, and announcements of new vehicles/designs (how incredibly ironic that you will mention a Press Confrence which might announce the new Impreza, then in the next breath bash me for waiting for such an announcement).

I browse this forum to looks for hints as to what's going on with the brand, and how the next Impreza may look. If there's a press release on a new car, I know it'll be posted here first.

From: elijah25rs

We weren't fooled. It's still obviously a photoshop and nothing close to a depth of field effect. Whether or not we thought it was the actual car, may be arguably wrong. But as far as the chopping of the picture goes, it was definately chopped.

"CAW" - "CAW" - "CAW".........Crow's last words before being eaten.

You seem quite content in assuming what I and other people are thinking, and continue to misinterpret posts.Nobody reading this forum really gives a crap about what the WRC2005 car looks like. We're only concerned about the looks of US MY2006 Impreza. Many hoped the WRC2005 would provide a clue, and were disappointed.

From: elijah25rs

We weren't fooled. It's still obviously a photoshop and nothing close to a depth of field effect. Whether or not we thought it was the actual car, may be arguably wrong. But as far as the chopping of the picture goes, it was definately chopped.

"CAW" - "CAW" - "CAW".........Crow's last words before being eaten.

*cough* ha ha?

I never disputed whether or not it was the new car for 05. I merely don't follow the WRC enough to know. But as far as the photograph goes, I insist you, it was photoshopped.

PS. This is how you quote. :banana:

For the record, the images posted on swrt.com as an SWRT letter on Feb 25 were post-processed, just to blur the car in the background. Did they use Photsohop? I don't know. I also don't know that anyone doesn't believe they were "massaged."

']For the record, the images posted on swrt.com as an SWRT letter on Feb 25 were post-processed, just to blur the car in the background. Did they use Photsohop? I don't know. I also don't know that anyone doesn't believe they were "massaged."

Thank you.

']Nobody reading this forum really gives a crap about what the WRC2005 car looks like. We're only concerned about the looks of US MY2006 Impreza. Many hoped the WRC2005 would provide a clue, and were disappointed.

I was disappointed (but not suprised). I personally think that a WRC event would be the perfect place to premere a new Impreza. Apparently I am not the only one thinking outside of the auto-show box; it was originally hinted that DCX's intention was to premere the new Charger at the Daytona 500.

elijah25rs

Touche !

Cheers,

C'est bien, copain.

What happened was the 2005 was just an improvement of the 2004, and would not feature the redesigned look; which is what alot of us, including me, have been trying to say.

Subaru will launch the new look Impreza at an autoshow later this year or next, if it is indeed coming.

Yes, I got pretty sick of saying that this is just like the WRC2000 launch, which was new running gear in the old body shell (initially).

That and the fact a birdy at SWRT told me it would be the existing 41T bodyshell - but I won't say when the new shell will debut. :)

']Nobody reading this forum really gives a crap about what the WRC2005 car looks like. We're only concerned about the looks of US MY2006 Impreza. Many hoped the WRC2005 would provide a clue, and were disappointed.

We tried to warn them. :)

For the record, the images posted on swrt.com as an SWRT letter on Feb 25 were post-processed, just to blur the car in the background. Did they use Photsohop? I don't know. I also don't know that anyone doesn't believe they were "massaged."

They sure did. People seemed to think that since a cord vanished in the blur, the car was added after the picture was taken.

From the horse's mouth. The questionable shot at the studio is real, and the car was blurred using Photoshop.